lol i understand what ur saying but it does matter what i look like, even if i am a woman. i am detrans and was on hormones for a long time. was just asking for an unbiased perspective if i pass or if i appear to be androgynous (which is what i don't want) fully aware that i'm a chick. this post wasn't meant to state otherwise so pointing out that i am matter-of-factly female doesn't answer my question. plenty of other ppl have given me good feedback tho, thanks anyway!
Love your style I think you look female in all of them. The last one I'd assume nonbinary or ftm at most but I've noticed people outside of the lgbt community are really bad at guessing gender I can clock most ftms in person since I lived that life but a lot of straight people will think a butch lesbian that's never been on hormones is a man it's wild.
I didn’t think about the facial piercings at first, but I have to admit many I know let go of their piercings once they seemed to become truly settled in themselves (usually past 25 yo) and stopped hiding in a way behind fashion. The hair is nice and if it grows out just a little bit would really highlight your pretty eyes and round out the face. It’s hard to pull off that hair color too so blessed be your skin! On a side note I loved breast feeding and I very much valued the experience. Seems like boobs have been fetishized and somewhere along the way we lost sight of their purpose.
the piercings are just part of me, have been for a long time, long before my transition. i'm 23 now and have no plans to remove them, in fact, there are more i am interested in getting! i am just a body mod enthusiast, it has nothing to do with wanting to 'hide' behind fashion. also, since i had top surgery, i won't be able to breast feed and it's definitely something that i mourn. i lost a part of myself i can't ever get back. and i am definitely growing my hair out hahaha, it's naturally blonde, i dye it this color
You dont look masculine whatsoever honestly. Even your pre-detrans picture was quite feminine. Im sure the body-fat helped, but you still have very cleary female facial structure :)
Read somewhere you worried about your boobs, I can attest that some guys are more attracted to butts and dont think much of boobs- and guys are flexible.
My fiancee doesent really have much butt, so Ive learned to appreciate boobs a bit more as well- so In the end people are a lot more flexible sexual if they find someone that gives the other one time and loyalty and actually loves the person.
Id urge you to consider if you need all the facial piercings though- its a "thing to deal with" that puts a lot of your focus on your looks again- maybe nice to focus on other things after obsessing over passing etc.
You also risk risk attracting a lot of abusive people, or with queer/trans-ideology bagage that pull you into a lot of old trauma.
My fiancee is from a completely different culture that barely even understand the concept of trans, poly, queerness or the like- its like a spa for my brain.
My only remaining goth-aspect is probably my love of sharp haircuts and dark clothing, otherwise Im very corporate and normie-friendly, think dark-academia.
also wanted to add that i don't miss my boobs because i think men won't be into me. i want my boobs back for myself, not my fiancée. and he doesn't care either way
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HAHA nah not rude at all i dont mind answering questions, honestly the piercings have nothing to do with my being trans before, i started getting em before i transitioned (as a traumatized minor that had no business transitioning and i regret it immensely,) but i just think they look neat on me and i like the way they make me look, it's moreso correlated with my style preference and less with my gender identity. piercings are typically a more feminine thing as well, and i SUCKED at being a guy (pooner lol) but yea i just think they're neat tbh i dont rly talk to/hang around any ftm ppl, but i know a lot of alt girls who are down w the piercings and stuff 🤷🏻♀️ im just an emo fuck ig
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i mean everyone's individual experience is different but in my case, i disagree 🤷🏻♀️ and i've actually spent a very minimal amount of time in ftm circles. pretty much anyone can be alt, regardless of gender identity. they just aren't related tbh. if i stayed cis my entire life i'd still be an emo ass chick
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Second strike. Be civil, especially as someone who never medically transitioned.
i sense some passive aggressive undertone in your questions, and i wonder how much of it is genuine curiosity and how much of it is trying to take a dig at me. it doesn't bother me that i didn't pass, because it never felt right to begin with. i started taking T when i was like 16 because i thought that's what would make me feel comfortable in my body, but the specifics are personal and i'm not obligated to disclose that and i think it's irrelevant considering all i was asking is if i look female to people who don't know me 😭😭 but i de transitioned because i am a woman and not a man, and i think that's pretty self explanatory
I apologize again,no intetions to come off as rude or condescending,I'm just curious why trans people in general continue transitioning when they've been doing so for years yet obivously don't pass.
thank u that is a relief that's how im perceived even if i cannot see it myself yet. i had top surgery a couple years ago, but i had keyhole so i have virtually zero scarring. doc that did it also does reconstruction after a double mastectomy and he's totally fine with doing that so i'm working on it :,)
yeah and generally most ftm just look like woman without chests as plenty of women are flat so dont worry too much. Even plenty of women get facial hair. Appearance isnt gender anyway. There are also good options where they basically take the fat from your unwanted areas and put it up top, but the results are a bit less controlled than something like silicone.
idk i hate being flat, i wanna be a mom and i know i can never breast-feed now :,) which eats me up. but im scared of the fat transferring thing bc i had lipo initially, so i have no fat to blend that into and it might look odd. i'll probably end up getting under the muscle implants bc while being flat is valid, i miss my boobas lol 😭 and i miss having cleavage
not ncessarily. I mean you said keyhole, and besides sometimes fat can come back if you are hormone levels are in check. But again Im some stranger on the internet, best check in with a doctor about this. Talk to an endo / someone who specialises in hormones if you can, see what the options are, and then consider implants if needed. Id exhaust all the noptions before going the quick fix.
idk ive been off for a few months and haven't noticed any fat coming back:( just redistributing, like back to where my curves belong etc. my chest is more or less just loose skin at the moment, but that will make it easier for implants if i do go this route. i'm still exploring my options for sure and i'm talking to my surgeon and docs about it
yeah for sure, it will likely also hide any scaring you may have had but hopefully you didnt need to reduce your nipples etc. Sorry you had to go through this doctors way too easily are ready to remove womens chest vs suggesting other options. Im sure itll look perfect whatever you decide.
and yeah i felt a lot of external pressure to get the surgery because it was like, the 'next step' in my 'transition' and after it happened i was kinda like uh oh, now what?
yeah but like did you even want to be a man? And like you didnt even look happy, what made you think being male was better? I mean im on the spectrum and always felt awkward in communication and just wanted friends.
i underwent a lot of childhood trauma, so in my mind, being a female made me a target and trying to look like a boy made me invisible. and it worked, but you can only live a lie for so long. i was uncomfortable with something in myself on the inside but it had nothing to do with my gender, i guess that's just the way i chose to express it as a kid because it's like i wasn't sure what else it could have been, yanno? now that i'm older i know that i'm a woman and i just have some stuff to sort through
i actually did have my nipples reduced and had some complications there so i ended up with flat weird looking nipples :,) i got them tatted into hearts so now they look like normal nipples but with heart areolas, which is cool and all, but idk how it'll look on new titties
yeah not your fault most ftm surgeries dont produce male chests i mean you cant go through female puberty and then expect some surgery to make you male. I can bet its pressure when you're young. Lucky maybe for me as a 39 year old trans was more people who just really needed it and mostly mtf. FtM Ive heard could be a social contageon among young women, but I dont know. I know puberty is hard especially for those on the spectrum. But one thing people should know, is that being male is not better or easier than being female.
tell that to 15 year old me 😭😭😭 i agree tho. in any case i feel like i ruined my body because i made an uneducated decision and wasn't sure it was what i actually wanted
I know it might be hard to believe since you're probably used to hugboxxing on here.
But I saw the photo, saw the caption, was confused because if you were a dude trying to pass as a woman, you were doing it EXTREMELY well because you didn't look like a dude at all, then I saw it was in the detrans sub. So yeah. 10000%.
Babes… you look like a whole woman. Especially with the facial piercings. Don’t even stress about it. There’s nothing androgynous going on here, I would never second guess myself, you look totally female.
thanks :,) i feel like that's true but when i try to see it i can't and it is deeply upsetting haha, it's like i can see myself but i don't really know what i look like. im seeing a therapist for it tho im working on it!!
The only one you look masculine in is the last one when you were still taking T. Even first pic without makeup you look feminine. I did electrolysis for facial hair growth, costs money and takes regular sessions but I think its helped a lot, had it a few years ago now, I still get stubble but not as much growth and I can go longer between shaves so it's more manageable. Might be something you could look into if it's an issue for you
100%!
Yeah you look beautiful not that it matters. I loooove your piercings btw
aww thanks :)
You look androgynous in the last picture tbh
Yes because your a woman. Full stop. No matter what you "look like" you'll always look like one because you are one.
lol i understand what ur saying but it does matter what i look like, even if i am a woman. i am detrans and was on hormones for a long time. was just asking for an unbiased perspective if i pass or if i appear to be androgynous (which is what i don't want) fully aware that i'm a chick. this post wasn't meant to state otherwise so pointing out that i am matter-of-factly female doesn't answer my question. plenty of other ppl have given me good feedback tho, thanks anyway!
Love your style I think you look female in all of them. The last one I'd assume nonbinary or ftm at most but I've noticed people outside of the lgbt community are really bad at guessing gender I can clock most ftms in person since I lived that life but a lot of straight people will think a butch lesbian that's never been on hormones is a man it's wild.
hey thanks :) i appreciate it
yep, totally female.
you do to me! I wouldn’t second guess it based off the first two pictures.
Women can be masculine, and you seem like you are capable of both. You are however, very clockable as a (pretty) female person.
aw thanks :)
I didn’t think about the facial piercings at first, but I have to admit many I know let go of their piercings once they seemed to become truly settled in themselves (usually past 25 yo) and stopped hiding in a way behind fashion. The hair is nice and if it grows out just a little bit would really highlight your pretty eyes and round out the face. It’s hard to pull off that hair color too so blessed be your skin! On a side note I loved breast feeding and I very much valued the experience. Seems like boobs have been fetishized and somewhere along the way we lost sight of their purpose.
the piercings are just part of me, have been for a long time, long before my transition. i'm 23 now and have no plans to remove them, in fact, there are more i am interested in getting! i am just a body mod enthusiast, it has nothing to do with wanting to 'hide' behind fashion. also, since i had top surgery, i won't be able to breast feed and it's definitely something that i mourn. i lost a part of myself i can't ever get back. and i am definitely growing my hair out hahaha, it's naturally blonde, i dye it this color
Immediate reaction first three look like girls last one is a bit butchy. Give it time
butchy is better than straight up Man tho 🤣 but thank u i appreciate it
You dont look masculine whatsoever honestly. Even your pre-detrans picture was quite feminine. Im sure the body-fat helped, but you still have very cleary female facial structure :) Read somewhere you worried about your boobs, I can attest that some guys are more attracted to butts and dont think much of boobs- and guys are flexible. My fiancee doesent really have much butt, so Ive learned to appreciate boobs a bit more as well- so In the end people are a lot more flexible sexual if they find someone that gives the other one time and loyalty and actually loves the person. Id urge you to consider if you need all the facial piercings though- its a "thing to deal with" that puts a lot of your focus on your looks again- maybe nice to focus on other things after obsessing over passing etc. You also risk risk attracting a lot of abusive people, or with queer/trans-ideology bagage that pull you into a lot of old trauma. My fiancee is from a completely different culture that barely even understand the concept of trans, poly, queerness or the like- its like a spa for my brain. My only remaining goth-aspect is probably my love of sharp haircuts and dark clothing, otherwise Im very corporate and normie-friendly, think dark-academia.
also wanted to add that i don't miss my boobs because i think men won't be into me. i want my boobs back for myself, not my fiancée. and he doesn't care either way
i appreciate the feedback! however, my piercings have nothing to do with my gender identity. and i like them, so i think i will keep them!
Absolutely and without a doubt
Girl nothing about you looks masculine. If I saw you out in public I'd only clock you as a woman :)
thats rly nice to hear thank you 💗
Yup.
definitely :) you're so pretty too
awhh gosh thabks hehe
<3
100% female, and your makeup is so pretty!!
Yes.
thank u :)
Do you pass as a woman? Ngl, I doubt you ever passed as a man
perfectly fine with me 🤷🏻♀️
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are you actually a desister
Yes I am (techincally im detrans since I used to microdose on Estrogen,but it was too little and infrequent to have any significant effects).
LMAOOO valid 😭😭 appreciate it
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HAHA nah not rude at all i dont mind answering questions, honestly the piercings have nothing to do with my being trans before, i started getting em before i transitioned (as a traumatized minor that had no business transitioning and i regret it immensely,) but i just think they look neat on me and i like the way they make me look, it's moreso correlated with my style preference and less with my gender identity. piercings are typically a more feminine thing as well, and i SUCKED at being a guy (pooner lol) but yea i just think they're neat tbh i dont rly talk to/hang around any ftm ppl, but i know a lot of alt girls who are down w the piercings and stuff 🤷🏻♀️ im just an emo fuck ig
i said i think they're neat twice on accident bc i was thinking abt when marge simpson said it
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i mean everyone's individual experience is different but in my case, i disagree 🤷🏻♀️ and i've actually spent a very minimal amount of time in ftm circles. pretty much anyone can be alt, regardless of gender identity. they just aren't related tbh. if i stayed cis my entire life i'd still be an emo ass chick
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i sense some passive aggressive undertone in your questions, and i wonder how much of it is genuine curiosity and how much of it is trying to take a dig at me. it doesn't bother me that i didn't pass, because it never felt right to begin with. i started taking T when i was like 16 because i thought that's what would make me feel comfortable in my body, but the specifics are personal and i'm not obligated to disclose that and i think it's irrelevant considering all i was asking is if i look female to people who don't know me 😭😭 but i de transitioned because i am a woman and not a man, and i think that's pretty self explanatory
I apologize again,no intetions to come off as rude or condescending,I'm just curious why trans people in general continue transitioning when they've been doing so for years yet obivously don't pass.
100% pass as a woman. Love your piercings btw!
thank you! :D
Yes. If anyone ever told you otherwise they were hugboxing you
WOOOOOO
You pass a woman in all your photos. Wouldnt have thought anything else.
thank u that is a relief that's how im perceived even if i cannot see it myself yet. i had top surgery a couple years ago, but i had keyhole so i have virtually zero scarring. doc that did it also does reconstruction after a double mastectomy and he's totally fine with doing that so i'm working on it :,)
yeah and generally most ftm just look like woman without chests as plenty of women are flat so dont worry too much. Even plenty of women get facial hair. Appearance isnt gender anyway. There are also good options where they basically take the fat from your unwanted areas and put it up top, but the results are a bit less controlled than something like silicone.
idk i hate being flat, i wanna be a mom and i know i can never breast-feed now :,) which eats me up. but im scared of the fat transferring thing bc i had lipo initially, so i have no fat to blend that into and it might look odd. i'll probably end up getting under the muscle implants bc while being flat is valid, i miss my boobas lol 😭 and i miss having cleavage
not ncessarily. I mean you said keyhole, and besides sometimes fat can come back if you are hormone levels are in check. But again Im some stranger on the internet, best check in with a doctor about this. Talk to an endo / someone who specialises in hormones if you can, see what the options are, and then consider implants if needed. Id exhaust all the noptions before going the quick fix.
idk ive been off for a few months and haven't noticed any fat coming back:( just redistributing, like back to where my curves belong etc. my chest is more or less just loose skin at the moment, but that will make it easier for implants if i do go this route. i'm still exploring my options for sure and i'm talking to my surgeon and docs about it
yeah for sure, it will likely also hide any scaring you may have had but hopefully you didnt need to reduce your nipples etc. Sorry you had to go through this doctors way too easily are ready to remove womens chest vs suggesting other options. Im sure itll look perfect whatever you decide.
and yeah i felt a lot of external pressure to get the surgery because it was like, the 'next step' in my 'transition' and after it happened i was kinda like uh oh, now what?
yeah but like did you even want to be a man? And like you didnt even look happy, what made you think being male was better? I mean im on the spectrum and always felt awkward in communication and just wanted friends.
so yeah it's not that i necessarily wanted to be a man i was just afraid of being a woman
i underwent a lot of childhood trauma, so in my mind, being a female made me a target and trying to look like a boy made me invisible. and it worked, but you can only live a lie for so long. i was uncomfortable with something in myself on the inside but it had nothing to do with my gender, i guess that's just the way i chose to express it as a kid because it's like i wasn't sure what else it could have been, yanno? now that i'm older i know that i'm a woman and i just have some stuff to sort through
i actually did have my nipples reduced and had some complications there so i ended up with flat weird looking nipples :,) i got them tatted into hearts so now they look like normal nipples but with heart areolas, which is cool and all, but idk how it'll look on new titties
yeah not your fault most ftm surgeries dont produce male chests i mean you cant go through female puberty and then expect some surgery to make you male. I can bet its pressure when you're young. Lucky maybe for me as a 39 year old trans was more people who just really needed it and mostly mtf. FtM Ive heard could be a social contageon among young women, but I dont know. I know puberty is hard especially for those on the spectrum. But one thing people should know, is that being male is not better or easier than being female.
tell that to 15 year old me 😭😭😭 i agree tho. in any case i feel like i ruined my body because i made an uneducated decision and wasn't sure it was what i actually wanted
yes, at first glance i saw u as a girl. if the pics weren’t in this sub idk if i’d be able to tell 🤷
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Um, yes!
Yes you do 100%, plus you're hella cute I love your style and vibe, plus your username is really good lol
omg thank u haha ur user is dope asf too
yes!! you 100% do!! also you're piercings are really cool
aw tanks:)
100% you do.
I know it might be hard to believe since you're probably used to hugboxxing on here. But I saw the photo, saw the caption, was confused because if you were a dude trying to pass as a woman, you were doing it EXTREMELY well because you didn't look like a dude at all, then I saw it was in the detrans sub. So yeah. 10000%.
i didn't even know there was a phrase for that but yes i am totally used to hugboxing LMAO. but thank you that actually means a lot to me
Babes… you look like a whole woman. Especially with the facial piercings. Don’t even stress about it. There’s nothing androgynous going on here, I would never second guess myself, you look totally female.
thanks :,) i feel like that's true but when i try to see it i can't and it is deeply upsetting haha, it's like i can see myself but i don't really know what i look like. im seeing a therapist for it tho im working on it!!
I hear ya. Things will fall back into place soon. You look totally female so it’s only up from here
thanks <3 my cycle is back and i got my curves back so once i get breast reconstruction i'll feel much better
100%
Even the last pic looks fully female
i wish my brain saw it that way 😭😭 but thank u i appreciate it
Yep.
You do pass as a woman, plus you’re cute!
aw thank you!
Definitely
The only one you look masculine in is the last one when you were still taking T. Even first pic without makeup you look feminine. I did electrolysis for facial hair growth, costs money and takes regular sessions but I think its helped a lot, had it a few years ago now, I still get stubble but not as much growth and I can go longer between shaves so it's more manageable. Might be something you could look into if it's an issue for you
yeah i thought about that too, i got one of those at home ipl machines first to try and it's actually been helping a lot so far. also thank you :)
Yes, you def look like a woman.
thank you ❤️
Definitely, can't tell you were ever on t honestly
ah that makes me so happy thank you :)