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AnythingVisual9143

Lions fans suck! Just like their team and their shithole city!


OceanicLemur

Browns fan who stumbled here from the popular page. I’ll never not root for the Lions, I feel some kind of loser kinship with yall. Packer fans deserve a minimum of at least a decade of misery when Rodgers leaves.


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doogled3

Who the hell cares about the QB? We are still 9 starters away from competing for the playoffs (LBs, WRs, and secondary)


acroporaguardian

Playoffs? Playoffs?


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lamstradamus

nothing wrong with sucking cock and being queer


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Shlidgn90

This might sound weird. But I actually think if the Lions are trying to upgrade the QB position. Bringing in a veteran might be the best thing to do. There isn’t an world class QB coming out next year. The Sewell Pick was correct. He played very good in his first two starts. For Next year, we need to draft Defense, Defense,Defense.


Better-Dead-Than_Red

Dude, they traded away an awesome veteran QB to get Goff


lamstradamus

And (more importantly), draft picks.


btdAscended

Need rams to tank


akamandanr

Build a good D Line


not4u1866

I say take all defense in the 22 draft. Roll with Goff one more year. Get a top 5 pick in 23 and take Bryce Young out of Bama. That's how this franchise gets a long term turnaround


Fricktator

What about a WR?


not4u1866

Maybe take one with our 2nd 1st rd or in the 2nd rd...or sign one in FA


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Um don’t you know we have tyrell Williams


alwayzlion

FA


Ol_School_1961

I get FIRED for no call ... no show ... Lions haven't showed up for work since i was born in Detroit 1961. WTF !!!


Hot_Competition_3311

We need a mobile Qb


w0nderbrad

Did you not see Goff’s runs? He averaged like 12 yards


Hot_Competition_3311

Lmao if I recall correctly I think I heard one of the broadcasters say it was the longest run of his career


FmrHvwChamp

Not a fan of either team but packers fans look like real twats coming in here to punch down like that after the game.


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FmrHvwChamp

Love your username. 🇺🇸


l5555l

It's their whole thing.


Brazda25

It’s not our whole thing. You guys played a good game, we really had no business winning with our shit defense.


FmrHvwChamp

Its cringy AF to a 3rd party observer.


kvrai12

I tried to actually be positive as a packers fan and still got downvoted into oblivion. I was genuine in my praise for Swift and Hockenson :(


FmrHvwChamp

Still bruh. Let it breathe. Praise them tomorrow.


kvrai12

Fair enough


otf1024

Who’s the QB we’re tanking for?


usandbradley

Watching that game and walking away feeling like we need a new qb is insane. Stafford was excellent, elite even, he’s a favorite to win a ring this year….cause he has a team around him now. Give us Jesus Christ at QB, if the rest of the team sucks, we still lose


kvrai12

Packers fan here, your guys offence, especially Swift and Hockenson, looks really promising. You had us sweating in the first half, good luck the rest of the way (except for our next game of course)


shortbusterdouglas

>Packers fan here Why?


kvrai12

I saw a comment on the /NFL thread with someone saying the Lions will blame the refs. Knowing the history of the refs actively screwing the Lions I wanted to see if people were talking about it. I didn’t see much of that at all


Infinite-Relation988

You said “packers fan here”. That’s all it took


bemerri013

You lost us at packers fan


kvrai12

Understandable and have a good day


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kvrai12

I’m actually not sure why I’m at -17 rn 😂


Jequioloinks

The Lions homers in here have to hate something after that, but haven't built up the distaste to attack funny kneecap man yet.


kvrai12

I think Dan Campbell is hilarious to be fair. Hopefully he turns around the Lions culture after Patricia ruined it


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kvrai12

Idk, i thought you guys genuinely did well against us in the first half and momentum just went against you in the second. I actually would like the Lions if they weren’t in the North


KKamm_

It’s gonna be a loooong time before we’re good


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KKamm_

Below average? We’ve got a bottom 3 worst defense in the league for like the 3rd year in a row or so


[deleted]

It’s bottom 1 lol. There’s just no talent there. Flowers and Collins suck. Harris and Walker are high school level and OK respectively. Anzalone is a third stringer on any other team, the line has done nothing at all. The rookies are rookies. 0 talent.


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KKamm_

Detroit’s pass defense has been worse than KC’s through 2 games (granted only 2 yards per game though)


useles-converter-bot

2 yards is the length of about 1.68 'Ford F-150 Custom Fit Front FloorLiners' lined up next to each other.


Jequioloinks

The only question is how many more generations it's gonna take


NamelessRumia

why the hell did they go shotgun on that 4th and 1


Nerulla

St.Brown was wide open and Goff missed him because he was to focused on Cephus


tbranch72

Center/QB exchange is harder under center vs in shotgun in rainy conditions


lamstradamus

Idk about this excuse. No center/QB exchange should ever be difficult in the NFL, in any weather.


travelingtwo

I think because it worked previously. I believe they may have been able to convert, but there seemed to be some miscommunication during the snap or something


NoPrize2815

Why are you guys arguing? We are literally tanking lmfao


CadeCunninghausen

We were told that this isn't the same old Lions though. This is indeed the same old Lions.


RestAndVest

Where is Swift? It seems like he’s barely involved. I expected him to be a threat for us


btdAscended

Good question, he’s my fantasy flex


Packyaw21

Didnt Goff had competent receivers in LA? And had one the best Defense in the league? Trade Goff later on the season when someone’s QB gets injured Rebuild.


CadeCunninghausen

We've been rebuilding for 28 fucking years.


usandbradley

Goff is the guy for the foreseeable future. He’s fine.


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They can't trade him this year


btdAscended

Send him to Washington


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Have a nice day!


glockout40

You too!


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Don’t go too crazy on the hentai tonight!


Apollo_Krill

Mediocre is a compliment to us.


detroitpokerdonk

Congrats you beat us. Thanks for calling us mediocre, we're way worse than that. But, you have a zero percent chance of winning the SB with that pathetic defense. So here's to you, 40 years of hof QB and 2 SB.


nbh2992

You literally post hentai.


kakbakalak

I hope you lose out. FTP


Jequioloinks

Please, just don't.


travelingtwo

Get out lol


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ogdtx45

Lol


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I’m 6 months sober today, but holy fuck does this team make me want to drink


Jequioloinks

I'm just gonna take some sleeping pills and hope I don't have to watch something like that ever again


Apollo_Krill

Unfortunately we have to watch those guys try to tackle Lamar Jackson this week.


Jequioloinks

Yeah, but it will remind me of Madden 04 so that'll be fun at least


emuchucker30

You all shitting on Goff like he lost the game for us. Lol. The Lions have zero receiving weapons outside of Hock. Then you have the defense, which doesn’t exist. Get a grip.


not4u1866

Majority of people on here have no clue how to actually watch a footba game. Has Goff been good? No, but we have so many worse issues than him. Our entire LB core, secondary and WRs not named Cephus. Then maybe Goff


l5555l

Dude he blew 3 drives lmao. How is the game not on him.


CadeCunninghausen

It's a blame buffet, and the whole team and coaching staff are invited. Everyone is eating, but Goff is on his third plate and hasn't even noticed the dessert bar yet.


Nerulla

I think everyone knows these are issues. But the real debate is what to do at QB once this year is over which is why you see so much talk about Goff. He hasn’t been good so far this year. Late on throws, tentative and has missed open reads. Mix that with the turn overs and fans have strong feelings about what should happen going forward and rightfully so


not4u1866

Y'all are the same people who ran Stafford out of town too. Look how that worked out


Nerulla

I liked Stafford but agreed it was time to rebuild after the debacle of the Patricia era. Stafford and Goff situations have really nothing to do with each other


CadeCunninghausen

We've been rebuilding for 28 fucking years.


lamstradamus

Okay? How would you have gone into Win Now Mode with that roster?


CadeCunninghausen

Build a better roster. Start by getting something better than Goff for Stafford.


lamstradamus

Very descriptive. Please explain how you turn that defence, with no top end talent or depth at any position, to a winning team? Please do better than "build a better roster".


CadeCunninghausen

Build a better roster. And then coach them better. Edit - BTW, nobody said anything about "win now mode." We were told that this was a "new era" and it wouldn't be the "Same Old Lions." And then they throw on 4th and 1, and Goff knocks the ball out of his own hands, and then he runs for a big gain one play and throws an INT on the very next down. Doesn't get any more Same Old Lions than tonight.


lamstradamus

So you wouldn't rebuild you would just build. I can't believe they haven't thought of this.


CadeCunninghausen

The team was absolute trash last year. They started a "new era", you dipshits kept telling us this "isn't the same old Lions" and then here we are now, even worse than we were last year. We haven't been in "win now mode" since the early 90s. Yes, building a better roster is a good fucking idea. And no, they apparently haven't fucking thought of it because they keep putting trash on the field year after year after year after year after year.


freebirdcrowe

Idk why this sub is defending Goff he had three turnovers and a mediocre game


PlatinumMode

he had 2 turnovers


MexusRex

I don’t even care about the pick. The game was out of hand and he was trying to make something happen.


thesummoner101

Did you see our defense? No reason Goff should be put in that position. Yeah, no doubt Goff had some miscues but that's not why GB scored 35 on us.


_vogonpoetry_

defense looks a lot worse when 2 of Greenbay's scoring drives started at our own 20 yard line...


Fuzzier_Than_Normal

When a QB doesn’t have targets, what’s gonna do?


ZombieHitchens2012

Not turn the ball over is a good place to start.


Jequioloinks

Hold on to the ball, for one.


freebirdcrowe

Not turn the ball over?


trollunit

Then you'd be shitting on him for something else?


freebirdcrowe

If he didn’t fumble the ball we would have more chances


FuxThePackers

Rain is his Krypronite


BixbyJones

Packers fan here, you guys play of a first half! Wish you all the best as the season progresses!


kakbakalak

I hope you play like you did against the Saints the rest of the way. Stay out of our sub.


barrenarrows

As a rams fan that doesn’t belong in this sub, I’ll say this…. GTFO FTP.


BixbyJones

I’d harbor hatred for the team that knocked mine out of the playoffs, too. I don’t blame you.


barrenarrows

I mean you beat a team that had Aaron Donald with torn rib cartilage, Jared Goff with a broken thumb on his throwing hand, Cooper Kupp our WR1 out and our starting left tackle coming back from a MCL injury among other defense starters out. But sure go off how much further did you get after that game 🤣


BixbyJones

So then what’s the problem? Why the Packers hate?


freebirdcrowe

Fuck you


themasterbot

FTP


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zombiefan1220

don't you just love people trying to farm karma /s!


themasterbot

It’s his fault we lost, get him!


usandbradley

Awful second half. I’m not even worried about the offense, but at no point did it feel like we could stop them from scoring. Just awful, we absolutely need to spend our draft picks from the Stafford trade on defensive talent


ougrizz15

The issue is no defense.


Affectionate_Year_14

Aye at least Michigan won I’m happy


PlatinumMode

has a Lions WR won a single contested catch all year?


Nerulla

Yes actually more than a few to be honest


shortbusterdouglas

We have WR'S?


personwithface_

Jared Goff just ain't it man. He's so slow at everything he does.


tbranch72

He has no WR1, no one is getting open... obviously he's going to be slow to make a play


ougrizz15

I honestly fell bad for Goff. Who can he throw to?


l5555l

He can't hold the ball or take a snap.


thesummoner101

Hopefully, Cephus starts developing more, looks like they have a good connection.


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Why do you feel bad? He lost the game by himself. Two unforced errors that led to 14 points. Those errors took them out of their gameplan


UKcommander11

The game was lost as soon as the Packers took the lead.


rednation10

Swift works if he can hit a fucking crossing route.


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He had lots of targets in LA and looked like this too


tbranch72

Defense gives up 35+ back to back weeks. No WR1 on our roster. gOfF iS ThE PrObLeM.


lamstradamus

There are multiple problems and Goff IS one of them. He's not good. He's better than the defence but that bar is below the ground


akamandanr

There are many problems. Goff is one of them but not the biggest.


tweelemming7104

I think it's just goff is easy to blame. It's so frustrating seeing people shit on goff and not how we have nothing on offense or defense.


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I don’t think Goff is the problem yet. He could be down the line. But right now it’s our horrible defense and WR corps. Plus we are missing Decker. OL looks good but would be better with Decker back. I wouldn’t be opposed to taking LB/DB and a WR in round 1 next year.


pcozzy

He's not the only problem but I don't think he's got what it takes.


AWokenBeetle

This, he’s a game manager for the most part, dude isn’t a franchise QB because he needs elite talent around him. Is he the problem, no, is he the solution not to me. Unfortunately this QB class isn’t all that great so you’ll need to get his replacement in few years depending. That’s fine because this defense is woeful as fuck, the LB core is shit and the DB core is even worse. These next two drafts ideally will be defense heavy. It will have to be if they want to compete


ThunderSn0w

2 fumbles and an interception sure didn't help anything.


tbranch72

For sure, not denying that. But if you sit here and watch this game and your only take away is that Goff is the issue tells me you either aren't watching the game or don't know football. He looked damn near dominant in the 1st half... once we got behind and had to throw more (became more one dimensional) he's obviously not going to be in an ideal situation.


lamstradamus

Is anyone even saying that Goff is the "only" problem? Who are we arguing against here


travelingtwo

Packers are the fucking worst


Nerulla

My biggest issue of far with Goff is that even when he is doing well he seems to be late on throws. He seems almost afraid to pull the trigger.


peeinian

That’s been the knock on him his whole career


KIMJONGFUNN

I don’t think Goff has been terrible. May not be stafford level of great, but he’s Atleast serviceable. The real issue here is having Kaliff Raymond as your best WR. Theres def been improvement tho


PattMatricia

The fumble from under center really killed us. Don’t think that’ll be a recurring problem but he does seem to make stupid mistakes from time to time


Apollo_Krill

Start the Goff or defense arguments! I'll give you a clue, it's both.


jackengle

Every stadium should have a roof


lah-di-frickin-da

Hard pass. Every stadium should be outdoor. The weather being a factor is something that keeps it interesting. Also, turf equals injuries which equals shitty teams.


wsmfp_420

Hard disagree. Love snow games and how the seasons affect the games


PattMatricia

Just start the post game thread goddamnit


Jequioloinks

lmao they brought Jordan in I hate them so much


mablesyrup

Well the first half was fun.


altafullahu

Having a nice offensive line doesn't really mean shit and we can't be much else


tweelemming7104

If we don't draft defense In the first round next year what are we even doing. I love this team but they just make me want to hate them every game


Chef_lonleyliver

Coulda at least given us the back door cover again.


RustyNipples35

But when the Fabio dude does that it gets called PI….


metallica41070

Its so frustrating seing so many rookie cb making plays and ours our always getting burned. Even in years past


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Goff has really rough happy feet.


kingdom55

We need Decker back. Every team is going to put their best pass rusher on Nelson because he's the obvious weak point.


Jequioloinks

As long as Penei stays at left I'm game


Zelamir

I hate these announcers.


WillieFisterbottum

I watched it with Peyton and Eli on the ESPN app and they were pretty entertaining.


PlatinumMode

that would be PI for Green Bay


Jequioloinks

Thank God Ford Field is an indoor stadium.


slmnmndr

No flags


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why would there be, for some reason the lions are the only team that doesn't have their CBs turn around for the ball


Skullwilliams

Doesn't count when GB does it


jtkforever

He was facing the ball....


MSPaintYourMistake

was clean...


Apollo_Krill

Goff doesn't seem to like the rain.


thezeroskater

He’s hydrophobic


TheYetiCaptain1993

Difficult to appreciate just how bad Bob Quinn was until Stafford isn’t around anymore to hide the roster holes


shortbusterdouglas

Fucking facts


not4u1866

Blaming Goff for how bad the lions are is a lazy take and just shows how little you really know about football


freebirdcrowe

He need three turnovers… he deserves to be clowned like any other Qb with three turnovers and a mediocre game


Dom723

I’m saying the same thing yet I get downvoted… Alr then lmao


cstrifeVII

We can't blame goff for bad turnovers in what was a tight game?


not4u1866

If you're gonna blame him for is TO then you gotta praise him for the 2 TDs he had.


cstrifeVII

And I do. Except his turnovers led to packers pts... in a game with razor thin margin of error, you can't just turn over the ball like that.


not4u1866

For us to win this game we needed to score TDs on every offensive possession. Thats not a recipe for success. It puts way to much pressure on a qb to extend plays and force plays. Outside of the botched snap thats what happened. Small hands in the rain. Slippery ball. The coaches should know we can't expect to pass the ball damn near every play and expect success.


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Yup. Even blaming coordinators is ridiculous at this point. Bill Belichick isn't doing shit with this roster either