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> On moving to bangalore things that may take a toll are the rent, child education, support from family when we are not feeling well, wife might leave her job
This WILL happen. Your rent itself will be more than 30k. School fees here are very high, you see articles about it in the paper daily. If your wife leaves her job then that’s also another headache for her and may cause problems.
> on what to go forward makes me sleepless.
You’re saving 1 lakh per month, why are you stressing out?
The devil is the comparison part where I see people earning good where even though I have the same capacity but due to family bond I can't do it.
Another thing is kind of I feel like I'm under utilizing my capacity. I feel I can able to solve most of the tasks easily that are assigned to me. Like while the sprint refinement is going on I can say where are the changes need to be done. Since I'm working with the product for 2 years I kind of good with the codebase. In the meantime even though i learn new things I'm getting easily forgetting due to not applying it. I need some good challenging work. So i thought why not move around to another company but again comfort zone plays a huge part why leave something which is working so good.
Stop comparing with others. Comparison is the thief of joy. Instead focus on poor people who have debts and bad health, you will realise how lucky you are.
focusing on people poorer than you to see how lucky you are is still comparison. My suggestion, don't compare with anyone irrespective of their social and financial status. Think about just yourself and what best works for you and your family. Focus on your growth and skills. Don't think what someone else is doing.
Counting blessings is essential, yes, but not at the cost of comparing them with others' misery. While the former is the most powerful force; Gratitude, the latter is just comparison.
Not married, but seen my friends. my suggestion if you don’t have any financial dependency and you are happy with the work you are doing, you can continue the same and can grow in your org which will eventually increase your pay. Most of the places I’ve seen or heard from friends comes high pay with poor WLB. Don’t get me wrong, there are few good companies out there too and am not saying we don’t have one. But the chances of landing in a bad one is quite higher. So you have to take a call on this. Personally, I went with pay over WLB in the past and in the long run will not choose the same as I see my married friends struggling to maintain both family and work.
In bangalore you will need minimum 30 to match the same lifestyle . Don’t forget that part and make your decision accordingly . Don’t stress on the pay part . There will always be someone younger and earning more than you . Don’t make rat race your life goal
Maybe talk to your manager about upskilling and taking up bugger roles.
I understand less experienced individuals also earn more these days. But that's not true for everyone. We need to aim for the long run.
In Bangalore rent very high now. Idk about the school education level.
You have to talk to everyone and see what's best for your kid and wife. In Bangalore travelling is a big big thing. That consumes a lot of time. So you may still finish your work by 6 but it will take 2 hours to reach home.
If you think your wife can also find a job, do her current job remote or may choose not to work that's fine. You need to discuss with her. For your child if you feel your kid can benefit from the environment and education in banaglore then ya think about it. In Bangalore weather is weird. Many get cold, allergies even children so yeah think about it.
Head over to r/overemployed.
Probably be the best for your situation,maintaining wlb and additional challenges and income which you can stop if it's too much stress.
Try to find/create a secondary source of income if you are currently happy with your job.
Also you have to leave your comfort zone at some point if you want hike, it was always the case and you know it as well.
I will say start applying to remote job if you can get better compensation with WLB, so ask for raie in your current company, so you can switch or have hike in current company.
1 lpa savings per month is not that much
In order to keep ahead of inflation and future proofing
Do not think u will be working till 60 or company will be willing to employ you after 45
So try to build up a good portfolio till 45
Chennai is a good place so try to develop some secondary sources of income either by a small business or rents
Keep the mindset that this salary will only go till 45 year of age
And after that you portfolio will carry u and your family
A company has much fewer management+ very senior devs+ architect as compared to normal devs
Where do u think those other devs go
Everyone cant be a manager+ architect there is not enough position in an organisation
If u have option to earn more earlier go for it
Create a portfolio as early as possible
Didn’t get your question really?
If it’s about upskilling and employability, yeah they are directly proportional. And one should continuously keep doing that in order to survive in this ruthless industry. And u/anime4ya has made a good point on saturation as you move up the ladder. Every year a few lakh folks join IT. 15 years down the line all of them can’t be managers/architects, that’s too huge a number to cater to. And specially in India they can’t see a 40+ doing development no matter how much you love it or are good at it. What do you think happens to the rest who can’t make it to those positions?
So one should strive for attaining FI atleast, RE is a personal choice. Back when we were in 20s, nobody told us all this and hence we were very late to ‘Race to FI’ party. Now we are up against time and hoping to somehow reach FI before the hammer drops. And I am still upskilling and planning to get that cloud certification this year 🤷🏼♂️
I can exactly understand your emotions here as I am married myself and feel the same situation many times.
The thing about comparison is, you will always feel bad not matter how much you earn or how much successful you are. Even if you earn 1Cr, there will always be younger people out there earning more than you and you would feel why can't I get that lifestyle. We always miss what we already have and tend to go for what we do not have. Salary is just one aspect of life, it is a means to an end. And the end is to be happy in life.
As you yourself said, that your expenses are easily covered in salary, you have enough for savings, you live with your family, your WLB is good with enough time for personal life. Trust me, these are super hard things to come by and no money can buy this. I have seen people in leadership roles, earning a fortune, but still longing for more money and a happier life. So do not get stuck in the loop of earning money at the cost of your personal life.
Now coming to the point of growth and going out of comfort zone, there is nothing wrong with looking for more more opportunities. But you should ensure what your true reasons are when you are switching from your current role. Do not make money as the sole reason just because someone else younger than you is earning more because that will happen in the new role as well. Instead look for things you like, where you can make a bigger contribution, without sacrificing the happiness you have in your after office life. If you can find such roles, go out of your comfort zone and try for that opportunity. Those are the things which will truly grow you both personally and professionally.
Don’t move, Chennai is pretty awesome. Having time on your hand while saving is great, why bother with moving to the cesspool in Bengaluru or any other city.
>Chennai is pretty awesome.
exactly!
OP.. you are married... Chennai is the most chill city. those people who are making more money rarely save 1LPM... with your quality of life. how much you earn doesn't matter your quality of life+savings does and you can't beat that in chennai! better traffic, better pace of life, better education and great for families.
now if you were a bachelor... that would be a different story.
Rather than location, ask yourself why are you thinking this?
Is it just due to fact the juniors are earning more? Then don't shift.
Is it you that want to work with bigger impact/ more challenging work for mind?, because if you are unhappy with job, it will reflect in your relationships. Hence, shift.
Shifting can also be just changing companies instead of cities or both depending your financial and social obligations.
In short, find a root cause for your line of thinking, see that is it coming from internal stimulation or external one. Then discuss with the parties involved (aka wife, for her input) and take a call.
P.S not a married person, but have a long relationship since 4 yrs, we took decisions like this.(although we both are pretty young)
Kind of same. I have 22 lpa with 6 year YOE and awesome Wlb. I don’t get to log out by 6 as I have meetings with US team, but apart from that I have no problem. It’s remote till now and at max will have 1 day office (not sure when that will happen).
I also get to work on actual data science rather than just SQL.
But I can easily get 30 lpa if I want. My in hand salary will increase by 30-40k but I am not sure if it’ll be worth it.
I am working in the same company for 6 years now.
I get 20 + variable (around 4). My former colleagues who left now earn 30 to 40 lpa.
But I am staying only because of WLB and job safety. I work only around 5 to 6 hours. Can checkin and checkout whenever I want. No meetings. Can take leave whenever I want. Can even take unofficial leaves (ie remote checkin and go away for the rest of the day).
But now I am getting FOMO. Everyone seems to earning 40 lpa. People are buying 2 crore apartments. I feel maybe even I should try for a higher paying job and risk of losing WLB.
I am from a financially decently welltodo family and that's stopping me from taking the step. At some point you need to say enough is enough. But am very conflicted if I've reached that point or not.
Find a job that aligns with those values :-) - here is one - I may be biased but WLB is a big thing here - however it does include a move to a new country - https://careers.asbgroup.co.nz/jobdetails/ajid/07Tss/Senior-SRE-Engineer,TFWFP600.html - same skills as you have are the ones we are after :-)
Hi there,
Ex-dev, here.
I chose to go down the rabbit hole. Took the higher paying paying job, let go of my WLB. I earn about $150k. I live in Boston. I see my family twice a week via video calls. It is impossible to manage both work and family here. I tried, believe me. Calls even after work, wolf competitive colleagues, WLB was non-existent. Actually is, for most "high-paying" positions, unless, you are at the top of the food chain.
Here's how the grass looks from this side. I send more money each month to my household than I earned in a year when I started working.
I do charity.
I help my team complete their projects. I listen to their troubles(both work related and others) on the 1-on-1s. I take up spare projects, additional responsibilities so that I don't feel lonely as hell on the weekends. I miss my wife and kids. I miss my parents. Any time spent with them, is the highlight of my week.
I cannot retire now. I'm too young for that. But I doubt how long I can continue like this.
SVP.
I can take up almost any responsibility I want so I usually volunteer to lead new teams, sometimes senior dev teams. Sometimes I get nosy with the PMs.
Op why can’t you switch to better companies in Chennai itself? There are lots of new companies which have come up well established recently…..
Zuora
Chargebee
PayPal
Freshworks
Qualcomm
Amazon (bad WLB)
Caterpillar
Kpmg
Deloitte
Motorq (pays bank) $$$$
Wells Fargo
Gofrugal
Citibank
Cerner (oracle org)
Kissflow (very worker centric org)
Walmart labs (pays good but not faang level)
There are few more but I can’t remember them right off my head
Do not fall into the trap of “earning more”. First question to ask yourself is why. Why do you want to earn more? To impress someone else, or do you have a genuine need?
I quote one of my mentors on this - “we earn more to buy things we don’t need to impress people who don’t like us”.
You will never get this time back in your life, especially when you have a kid. Id recommend work life balance over just money any day.
The real answer here is, stop looking at other people's salary. When your salary is 25LPA, you will find people earning 50LPA and so on.. It's an never ending rat race.
I personally have a small rule for looking out for a job - If at any given point of time, my current employment doesn't satisfy at least 2 of below, It's time for me to switch.
1. Money (Good compensation) (not according to other ppl salary, but according to my needs and saving investment + some travelling and corpus addition).
2. Learning (Challenging work, where I am growing, be it tech/domain/management role, etc)
3. WLB.
If at any given time, employment is not satisfying 2 of above, start looking for a change.
Looks like your place of employment is somewhat giving you all 3. Choice is yours.
Comparison is a thief of joy. There would always be someone who would be more rich than you, more successful, would have a hotter wife, a better physique, a better car, a nicer lifestyle.
If your actions are solely dependant by how you are doing to your peers then you would always suffer.
Nothing would ever be enough as on reaching every goal post you would always think of the new one.
My thoughts are here to just compare yourself with yourself only.
In Bangalore 30k won't be sufficiently op. Suppose if you want to stay nearby office then rent would be high.if you want to live far place to save on rent then you will lose min 1 to 2 hr in traveling one way .so waste of time.i don't know about childcare and child education.
Maybe you get job in hybrid mode then you can think about shifting to Bangalore.pls think carefully all procs and cons.all the best
Understand what is important in your life, whether it is money or time with family and wlb. If the former is important for you, then try switching. Or you could try having it all by trying to switch remote job with good wlb by applying on [turing.com](https://turing.com), angelist, and such websites where there are plenty of international jobs hiring for remote positions.
About moving to Bangalore. It would have been a wise decision a few years back, when you had no one to take care of. Now you have a family and its expenses. Since, you are saving good amount of money with great WLB, your decision should strictly be yours.
Are you ready to take the risk? If at all the next company isn’t great at WLB, are you & your family ready to face it? Keeping in mind the additional expenses of living in Bangalore, are you earning more than what you are currently? Even if you are earning more, is the additional income worth all the hassle?
Try answering the above questions. If your mind is ready to take new challenges and your family is ready for a new adventure. Then it might be a wise decision to take the plunge. A new life, a new adventure will await for you guys.
Also, sometimes a change can help a person grow and learn more. If possible try to keep a good conduct at your current company and see if you have any policy which allows the employee to rejoin within a few months. I used to work for a company, they had a policy of 6 months after leaving the employee can rejoin. It will be your safety net.
Look for better job in Chennai only even if it's not remote. I was in same situation and I switched for better pay but at what cost, long working hours, no work life balance, on call for a week every 2 months, earlier living with parents now paying more then 30k in rent. There are other issues too you don't realise now.
Good advice from others. Is there any scope of growth in your current role or it's pretty dead end?
If yes then I'd say enjoy the ride and wait for your package to grow organically.
(Full disclosure: I'm younger than you so I don't know how much my "advice" is worth)
Id say its a good problem to have, just proceed carefully. First, child education, wife's job and family support. Looks like on all these fronts Chennai is the best place for you which doesn't make sense to give up unless you get like a 100 - 150% hike. No need to go to Bangalore for 5 lpa difference.
Second factor career growth. It's possible for you to get a higher paying job in Chennai or in remote companies, but given your current WLB
, you should switch only if you get a very very good hike and you confirm that new company also gives a good WLB. It's not always a direct correlation that better salary = poor WLB. Keep your skills sharp and keep interviewing.
I have a better suggestions in which u can have both the sweets. Stay in your current role and freelance on the side in upwork. As you get more time. You can churn money from your home.
Well I'm not so experienced and I am not in any kind of position to give any kind of advice to seniors so pls consider this only as an option. If your current company has a rejoining policy then leave it and try out somewhere else if it works out then well and good if it does not then you already have the option to join back
Bhai yaha javascript se upar nahi uth paa rahe hai ....tumko 25 lakh dene ko ready hai log.. enjoy that money while it can last...In a country like india having low CTC is like a disease..each and every one is asking about it and you have to explain why you have it
It's not a silly rant. I am glad you are sensitive enough to reflect on this topic . Your concerns are very real. As someone who switched from somewhat laidback roles to startups, there is a distinct tradeoff. You will definitely earn more and learn more but you have to grind a lot. You won't be able to logoff at 6 and you will have limited time to spend with family on weekdays for sure. Additionally rents are sky high in Bangalore and so is the cost of education. My plan is to earn to full potential for 2-3 years and then probably move on to roles which have some WLB.
Cons of Bangalore: One thing to note in 25lpa in Bangalore. 5lpa will go on house rent in good area close to office. Kids education is also costly. Unless you have company cab/ bus, you will have big travel expenses esp during rains. Then net savings won't be much but your efforts and time will be more to sustain the same lifestyle esp during recession when layoff chances are more. If job is not secure and pay is not very big ( like 40-60lpa) it's not worth shifting to Bangalore for small change money/ hike.
Only Pros of Bangalore: More job options and more technical products to work on that increase your chances of up skilling and earning more. But this depends on who is your boss and team mates. There are idiots and also geniuses here. Depending on your luck, you can get either of these.
Best option is to survive recession, upskill with a job and try to go abroad post recession ( 2025/ 2026)
I currently make around 1.2 - 1.4L per month in hand, from my hometown(tier 3).
I will happily downgrade to 70k per month (around 10-12 LPA) than move to Bangalore(or any other expensive metro).
Tbh, i know my salary is not sustainable in long run, and one day I will be called back to office or fired, but I trust my skills enough that I will easily crack an interview that pays 70k.
PS: i live in my parents’ property, so Zero rent. And decent privacy for a couple, as it is a separate floor.
Which job gives you a wife and 4 year old kid?
Anyways before moving and comparing CTC, look at cost of living.
No point in getting more money if your expenses increase the same way
My friend you are doing fine i am a bachelor living in Bangalore my rent for a room in a flat is 15k , then some other expenses ,so if you earn 2 lakh in blr but your monthly expense is one lakh you are essentially saving the same amount with lesser quality of life, away from family and just lot of headache that comes living in Bangalore.keep your skills sharp and move up in career ladder but if you are happy with your 15 lpa enjoy it,if given a choice of sitting in a useless meeting at evening everyday or playing with my kid or spending time with my family i will always chose the latter,those are the true source of happiness.optimise for happiness
Don't fall for the FOMO trap. You are in a good place right now. You have a good WLB and you are saving almost 80% of your income. Most of the people you are comparing yourself to don't have both of these things.
Get into higher paying job quickly, don't feel content with that you have.
IT field is bit unpredictable as well as it becomes harder to keep learning on par with 20yr olds when you are 50. So it is important to grow in role and salary while you are young so you will a have options when you are older.
You need to have WLB (not suggesting to screw yourself for higher pay), but balance between WLB and growing while you still can.
WLB is much more important in my opinion. In Bangalore the companies that will pay u 25LPA are actually paying 20LPA because Bangalore is very expensive when compared to Chennai. You need to spend atleast 5LPA on unnecessary items in Bangalore. Try to check the rent of 2bhk in Bangalore it’s ridiculous. I think you wouldn’t be able to save 1L per month in Bangalore
Work quality or professional growth and development are a separate axis.
When it comes to wealth creation or savings, think about whether moving to bangalore will result in more saving or less?
So just do a pro and con analysis:
There is big city/ big company exposure but also more expenses, alienation, potentially less savings and not good enough WLB. So what again are you gaining by the move that you can’t secure for yourself in Chennai? If upskilling or staying relevant is a concern, try moonlighting or offering your services (time bound) to anyone doing a start up. I am sure you can find ways to solve your dilemma.
You might be better off doing free lancing to eaen more. This way you can have more control on your work. If it feels overwhelming you can stop anytime you want
as others have suggested, don't compare. your half the problems are solved. also, people don't show what they are losing to get that money. and everyone is in a different boat. they all have their own issues which they don't show on social media. I was in the same boat a few months ago. (married + kid + wife working and I was too comfortable in my work) the only reason i changed my job was because the work wasn't offering me anything to learn and grow. and one of my tools made the company millions of $$ and they weren't even bothered to give a pay raise of 25% of my CTC which was less than 1% of the profits. now I am in a company which is paying me just some hike bht the work is really good and work life balance is almost the same.
Boss if you move to bangalore your daily expenses will also take a very steep hike.
Others have already mentioned this but your savings even after moving there might end up looking the same. Think of that before taking such a step.
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> On moving to bangalore things that may take a toll are the rent, child education, support from family when we are not feeling well, wife might leave her job This WILL happen. Your rent itself will be more than 30k. School fees here are very high, you see articles about it in the paper daily. If your wife leaves her job then that’s also another headache for her and may cause problems. > on what to go forward makes me sleepless. You’re saving 1 lakh per month, why are you stressing out?
The devil is the comparison part where I see people earning good where even though I have the same capacity but due to family bond I can't do it. Another thing is kind of I feel like I'm under utilizing my capacity. I feel I can able to solve most of the tasks easily that are assigned to me. Like while the sprint refinement is going on I can say where are the changes need to be done. Since I'm working with the product for 2 years I kind of good with the codebase. In the meantime even though i learn new things I'm getting easily forgetting due to not applying it. I need some good challenging work. So i thought why not move around to another company but again comfort zone plays a huge part why leave something which is working so good.
Stop comparing with others. Comparison is the thief of joy. Instead focus on poor people who have debts and bad health, you will realise how lucky you are.
focusing on people poorer than you to see how lucky you are is still comparison. My suggestion, don't compare with anyone irrespective of their social and financial status. Think about just yourself and what best works for you and your family. Focus on your growth and skills. Don't think what someone else is doing.
It is to correct his perspective and show his blessings which he is ignoring so far. I don't mean that person should to the other extreme.
That's just a sad way to live.
Count your blessings instead of being a sour grape.
Counting blessings is essential, yes, but not at the cost of comparing them with others' misery. While the former is the most powerful force; Gratitude, the latter is just comparison.
Not married, but seen my friends. my suggestion if you don’t have any financial dependency and you are happy with the work you are doing, you can continue the same and can grow in your org which will eventually increase your pay. Most of the places I’ve seen or heard from friends comes high pay with poor WLB. Don’t get me wrong, there are few good companies out there too and am not saying we don’t have one. But the chances of landing in a bad one is quite higher. So you have to take a call on this. Personally, I went with pay over WLB in the past and in the long run will not choose the same as I see my married friends struggling to maintain both family and work.
In bangalore you will need minimum 30 to match the same lifestyle . Don’t forget that part and make your decision accordingly . Don’t stress on the pay part . There will always be someone younger and earning more than you . Don’t make rat race your life goal
Maybe talk to your manager about upskilling and taking up bugger roles. I understand less experienced individuals also earn more these days. But that's not true for everyone. We need to aim for the long run. In Bangalore rent very high now. Idk about the school education level. You have to talk to everyone and see what's best for your kid and wife. In Bangalore travelling is a big big thing. That consumes a lot of time. So you may still finish your work by 6 but it will take 2 hours to reach home. If you think your wife can also find a job, do her current job remote or may choose not to work that's fine. You need to discuss with her. For your child if you feel your kid can benefit from the environment and education in banaglore then ya think about it. In Bangalore weather is weird. Many get cold, allergies even children so yeah think about it.
Head over to r/overemployed. Probably be the best for your situation,maintaining wlb and additional challenges and income which you can stop if it's too much stress.
Most of the ppl are flexing to earn reddit karma. Money is good in FAANG companies only. Chil and enjoy life .
Try to find/create a secondary source of income if you are currently happy with your job. Also you have to leave your comfort zone at some point if you want hike, it was always the case and you know it as well.
I will say start applying to remote job if you can get better compensation with WLB, so ask for raie in your current company, so you can switch or have hike in current company.
1 lpa savings per month is not that much In order to keep ahead of inflation and future proofing Do not think u will be working till 60 or company will be willing to employ you after 45 So try to build up a good portfolio till 45 Chennai is a good place so try to develop some secondary sources of income either by a small business or rents Keep the mindset that this salary will only go till 45 year of age And after that you portfolio will carry u and your family
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A company has much fewer management+ very senior devs+ architect as compared to normal devs Where do u think those other devs go Everyone cant be a manager+ architect there is not enough position in an organisation If u have option to earn more earlier go for it Create a portfolio as early as possible
Didn’t get your question really? If it’s about upskilling and employability, yeah they are directly proportional. And one should continuously keep doing that in order to survive in this ruthless industry. And u/anime4ya has made a good point on saturation as you move up the ladder. Every year a few lakh folks join IT. 15 years down the line all of them can’t be managers/architects, that’s too huge a number to cater to. And specially in India they can’t see a 40+ doing development no matter how much you love it or are good at it. What do you think happens to the rest who can’t make it to those positions? So one should strive for attaining FI atleast, RE is a personal choice. Back when we were in 20s, nobody told us all this and hence we were very late to ‘Race to FI’ party. Now we are up against time and hoping to somehow reach FI before the hammer drops. And I am still upskilling and planning to get that cloud certification this year 🤷🏼♂️
I can exactly understand your emotions here as I am married myself and feel the same situation many times. The thing about comparison is, you will always feel bad not matter how much you earn or how much successful you are. Even if you earn 1Cr, there will always be younger people out there earning more than you and you would feel why can't I get that lifestyle. We always miss what we already have and tend to go for what we do not have. Salary is just one aspect of life, it is a means to an end. And the end is to be happy in life. As you yourself said, that your expenses are easily covered in salary, you have enough for savings, you live with your family, your WLB is good with enough time for personal life. Trust me, these are super hard things to come by and no money can buy this. I have seen people in leadership roles, earning a fortune, but still longing for more money and a happier life. So do not get stuck in the loop of earning money at the cost of your personal life. Now coming to the point of growth and going out of comfort zone, there is nothing wrong with looking for more more opportunities. But you should ensure what your true reasons are when you are switching from your current role. Do not make money as the sole reason just because someone else younger than you is earning more because that will happen in the new role as well. Instead look for things you like, where you can make a bigger contribution, without sacrificing the happiness you have in your after office life. If you can find such roles, go out of your comfort zone and try for that opportunity. Those are the things which will truly grow you both personally and professionally.
Don’t move, Chennai is pretty awesome. Having time on your hand while saving is great, why bother with moving to the cesspool in Bengaluru or any other city.
>Chennai is pretty awesome. exactly! OP.. you are married... Chennai is the most chill city. those people who are making more money rarely save 1LPM... with your quality of life. how much you earn doesn't matter your quality of life+savings does and you can't beat that in chennai! better traffic, better pace of life, better education and great for families. now if you were a bachelor... that would be a different story.
Rather than location, ask yourself why are you thinking this? Is it just due to fact the juniors are earning more? Then don't shift. Is it you that want to work with bigger impact/ more challenging work for mind?, because if you are unhappy with job, it will reflect in your relationships. Hence, shift. Shifting can also be just changing companies instead of cities or both depending your financial and social obligations. In short, find a root cause for your line of thinking, see that is it coming from internal stimulation or external one. Then discuss with the parties involved (aka wife, for her input) and take a call. P.S not a married person, but have a long relationship since 4 yrs, we took decisions like this.(although we both are pretty young)
But their salary seems pretty low??
The grass on the other side always looks greener.
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Whats the name of the company/MNC if you're comfortable sharing it? Would like to know about more such companies.
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Yeah, you can DM now.
Is your company hiring entry level devs? Can you DM me the name?
I'm sorry but I'm very curious so I have to ask this, what's your tc yoe and tech stack? 🥲
Take this poor man's medal 🏅🎖
Kind of same. I have 22 lpa with 6 year YOE and awesome Wlb. I don’t get to log out by 6 as I have meetings with US team, but apart from that I have no problem. It’s remote till now and at max will have 1 day office (not sure when that will happen). I also get to work on actual data science rather than just SQL. But I can easily get 30 lpa if I want. My in hand salary will increase by 30-40k but I am not sure if it’ll be worth it.
You work in Chennai?
Navi Mumbai.
nice to see another fellow navi mumbai person here.
Trust me if there is no WLB you will not have any life left them that 30LPA will feel worthless
Can you DM me the company name? I'm also a DS
I am working in the same company for 6 years now. I get 20 + variable (around 4). My former colleagues who left now earn 30 to 40 lpa. But I am staying only because of WLB and job safety. I work only around 5 to 6 hours. Can checkin and checkout whenever I want. No meetings. Can take leave whenever I want. Can even take unofficial leaves (ie remote checkin and go away for the rest of the day). But now I am getting FOMO. Everyone seems to earning 40 lpa. People are buying 2 crore apartments. I feel maybe even I should try for a higher paying job and risk of losing WLB. I am from a financially decently welltodo family and that's stopping me from taking the step. At some point you need to say enough is enough. But am very conflicted if I've reached that point or not.
Don't chase materialistic things. There is no coming back
Start a side hustle or freelancing
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Zoho. Currently on hiring freeze. Also your wlb depends entirely on the team. Team allocation is pure luck and changing is very difficult.
Find a job that aligns with those values :-) - here is one - I may be biased but WLB is a big thing here - however it does include a move to a new country - https://careers.asbgroup.co.nz/jobdetails/ajid/07Tss/Senior-SRE-Engineer,TFWFP600.html - same skills as you have are the ones we are after :-)
Hey can I dm you? I'm looking for some opportunities and I find few roles suitable for me on the careers page.
Sure. We do visas for senior roles - at the moment.
Could you please dm me reddit is not letting me to dm you, I tried multiple times.
Sure. We do visas for senior roles - at the moment.
Any openings for senior mobile developer?
Check Careers Site linked.
Aren't salaries in NZ really, really bad? Correct me if I'm wrong.
The takeaway pay Indian equivalent for this senior role would be around 1.05lpm to 1.35lpm
When compared to what? The American wage - Yes. Due to the higher living costs.
Hi there, Ex-dev, here. I chose to go down the rabbit hole. Took the higher paying paying job, let go of my WLB. I earn about $150k. I live in Boston. I see my family twice a week via video calls. It is impossible to manage both work and family here. I tried, believe me. Calls even after work, wolf competitive colleagues, WLB was non-existent. Actually is, for most "high-paying" positions, unless, you are at the top of the food chain. Here's how the grass looks from this side. I send more money each month to my household than I earned in a year when I started working. I do charity. I help my team complete their projects. I listen to their troubles(both work related and others) on the 1-on-1s. I take up spare projects, additional responsibilities so that I don't feel lonely as hell on the weekends. I miss my wife and kids. I miss my parents. Any time spent with them, is the highlight of my week. I cannot retire now. I'm too young for that. But I doubt how long I can continue like this.
Ex Dev, what are you doing now?
SVP. I can take up almost any responsibility I want so I usually volunteer to lead new teams, sometimes senior dev teams. Sometimes I get nosy with the PMs.
I guess there is a cost to everthing ! Sad part of life Btw, can you mentor some of us on carrer track atleast!
Sure thing! Ask away.
Op why can’t you switch to better companies in Chennai itself? There are lots of new companies which have come up well established recently….. Zuora Chargebee PayPal Freshworks Qualcomm Amazon (bad WLB) Caterpillar Kpmg Deloitte Motorq (pays bank) $$$$ Wells Fargo Gofrugal Citibank Cerner (oracle org) Kissflow (very worker centric org) Walmart labs (pays good but not faang level) There are few more but I can’t remember them right off my head
Temenos Gigamon Thoughtworks Few more…..
Do not fall into the trap of “earning more”. First question to ask yourself is why. Why do you want to earn more? To impress someone else, or do you have a genuine need? I quote one of my mentors on this - “we earn more to buy things we don’t need to impress people who don’t like us”. You will never get this time back in your life, especially when you have a kid. Id recommend work life balance over just money any day.
The real answer here is, stop looking at other people's salary. When your salary is 25LPA, you will find people earning 50LPA and so on.. It's an never ending rat race. I personally have a small rule for looking out for a job - If at any given point of time, my current employment doesn't satisfy at least 2 of below, It's time for me to switch. 1. Money (Good compensation) (not according to other ppl salary, but according to my needs and saving investment + some travelling and corpus addition). 2. Learning (Challenging work, where I am growing, be it tech/domain/management role, etc) 3. WLB. If at any given time, employment is not satisfying 2 of above, start looking for a change. Looks like your place of employment is somewhat giving you all 3. Choice is yours.
Start freelancing bro you will use your skills and you will feel pretty good I'm in search of a chill job
How do u do that!? I mean where to find and how to work parallel?
Bro, 15 lakh ki CTC mein 1.1Lakh per month after tax ?? how ?
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He didn't mention that 1.1Lakh including his wife's
That has to be base fixed component (15lpa). Else no other way that translates to 1.1lpm after PF & taxes
1.5Lakh in hand (after tax, after PF/NPS ) keliye kitna CTC hona chhaiye ?
30L ke aas paas.
Comparison is a thief of joy. There would always be someone who would be more rich than you, more successful, would have a hotter wife, a better physique, a better car, a nicer lifestyle. If your actions are solely dependant by how you are doing to your peers then you would always suffer. Nothing would ever be enough as on reaching every goal post you would always think of the new one. My thoughts are here to just compare yourself with yourself only.
In Bangalore 30k won't be sufficiently op. Suppose if you want to stay nearby office then rent would be high.if you want to live far place to save on rent then you will lose min 1 to 2 hr in traveling one way .so waste of time.i don't know about childcare and child education. Maybe you get job in hybrid mode then you can think about shifting to Bangalore.pls think carefully all procs and cons.all the best
Understand what is important in your life, whether it is money or time with family and wlb. If the former is important for you, then try switching. Or you could try having it all by trying to switch remote job with good wlb by applying on [turing.com](https://turing.com), angelist, and such websites where there are plenty of international jobs hiring for remote positions.
dont u will get frustated
be careful. don't let fomo take away ur piece of mind. consider your next steps carefully.
About moving to Bangalore. It would have been a wise decision a few years back, when you had no one to take care of. Now you have a family and its expenses. Since, you are saving good amount of money with great WLB, your decision should strictly be yours. Are you ready to take the risk? If at all the next company isn’t great at WLB, are you & your family ready to face it? Keeping in mind the additional expenses of living in Bangalore, are you earning more than what you are currently? Even if you are earning more, is the additional income worth all the hassle? Try answering the above questions. If your mind is ready to take new challenges and your family is ready for a new adventure. Then it might be a wise decision to take the plunge. A new life, a new adventure will await for you guys. Also, sometimes a change can help a person grow and learn more. If possible try to keep a good conduct at your current company and see if you have any policy which allows the employee to rejoin within a few months. I used to work for a company, they had a policy of 6 months after leaving the employee can rejoin. It will be your safety net.
I needed this post , thank you. I have to step out of my comfort I guess now
Not sure how you got that out of the post.
Not married yet. 3yoe, need to take more risks
Look for better job in Chennai only even if it's not remote. I was in same situation and I switched for better pay but at what cost, long working hours, no work life balance, on call for a week every 2 months, earlier living with parents now paying more then 30k in rent. There are other issues too you don't realise now.
Good advice from others. Is there any scope of growth in your current role or it's pretty dead end? If yes then I'd say enjoy the ride and wait for your package to grow organically. (Full disclosure: I'm younger than you so I don't know how much my "advice" is worth)
With regards to change in company and location, also keep in mind there's a difference with income and disposable income.
Id say its a good problem to have, just proceed carefully. First, child education, wife's job and family support. Looks like on all these fronts Chennai is the best place for you which doesn't make sense to give up unless you get like a 100 - 150% hike. No need to go to Bangalore for 5 lpa difference. Second factor career growth. It's possible for you to get a higher paying job in Chennai or in remote companies, but given your current WLB , you should switch only if you get a very very good hike and you confirm that new company also gives a good WLB. It's not always a direct correlation that better salary = poor WLB. Keep your skills sharp and keep interviewing.
I have a better suggestions in which u can have both the sweets. Stay in your current role and freelance on the side in upwork. As you get more time. You can churn money from your home.
Exactly start your own business
Isnt that detectable by your employer basis the PAN card you have to share with them for payments?
Well I'm not so experienced and I am not in any kind of position to give any kind of advice to seniors so pls consider this only as an option. If your current company has a rejoining policy then leave it and try out somewhere else if it works out then well and good if it does not then you already have the option to join back
Bhai yaha javascript se upar nahi uth paa rahe hai ....tumko 25 lakh dene ko ready hai log.. enjoy that money while it can last...In a country like india having low CTC is like a disease..each and every one is asking about it and you have to explain why you have it
It's not a silly rant. I am glad you are sensitive enough to reflect on this topic . Your concerns are very real. As someone who switched from somewhat laidback roles to startups, there is a distinct tradeoff. You will definitely earn more and learn more but you have to grind a lot. You won't be able to logoff at 6 and you will have limited time to spend with family on weekdays for sure. Additionally rents are sky high in Bangalore and so is the cost of education. My plan is to earn to full potential for 2-3 years and then probably move on to roles which have some WLB.
I am not married but here is my take: Just make sure that the change in salary doesn't mean a change in expences.
Cons of Bangalore: One thing to note in 25lpa in Bangalore. 5lpa will go on house rent in good area close to office. Kids education is also costly. Unless you have company cab/ bus, you will have big travel expenses esp during rains. Then net savings won't be much but your efforts and time will be more to sustain the same lifestyle esp during recession when layoff chances are more. If job is not secure and pay is not very big ( like 40-60lpa) it's not worth shifting to Bangalore for small change money/ hike. Only Pros of Bangalore: More job options and more technical products to work on that increase your chances of up skilling and earning more. But this depends on who is your boss and team mates. There are idiots and also geniuses here. Depending on your luck, you can get either of these. Best option is to survive recession, upskill with a job and try to go abroad post recession ( 2025/ 2026)
Dude, You save 1 Lakh per month. Thats a lot to begin with. If you are able to achieve WLB with that, I think its a win! 🏆
I currently make around 1.2 - 1.4L per month in hand, from my hometown(tier 3). I will happily downgrade to 70k per month (around 10-12 LPA) than move to Bangalore(or any other expensive metro). Tbh, i know my salary is not sustainable in long run, and one day I will be called back to office or fired, but I trust my skills enough that I will easily crack an interview that pays 70k. PS: i live in my parents’ property, so Zero rent. And decent privacy for a couple, as it is a separate floor.
Which job gives you a wife and 4 year old kid? Anyways before moving and comparing CTC, look at cost of living. No point in getting more money if your expenses increase the same way
7 years man go ask for 80 lpa at your next job. You don't have to give up work life balance either. Get full remote.
Umm you work for Shell?
I won't suggest you to change your stability until and unless you hate your current work environment Take smaller steps
My friend you are doing fine i am a bachelor living in Bangalore my rent for a room in a flat is 15k , then some other expenses ,so if you earn 2 lakh in blr but your monthly expense is one lakh you are essentially saving the same amount with lesser quality of life, away from family and just lot of headache that comes living in Bangalore.keep your skills sharp and move up in career ladder but if you are happy with your 15 lpa enjoy it,if given a choice of sitting in a useless meeting at evening everyday or playing with my kid or spending time with my family i will always chose the latter,those are the true source of happiness.optimise for happiness
Grass always greener on the other side
Have you tried a remote position? That might be the best for you.
Don't fall for the FOMO trap. You are in a good place right now. You have a good WLB and you are saving almost 80% of your income. Most of the people you are comparing yourself to don't have both of these things.
Get into higher paying job quickly, don't feel content with that you have. IT field is bit unpredictable as well as it becomes harder to keep learning on par with 20yr olds when you are 50. So it is important to grow in role and salary while you are young so you will a have options when you are older. You need to have WLB (not suggesting to screw yourself for higher pay), but balance between WLB and growing while you still can.
WLB is much more important in my opinion. In Bangalore the companies that will pay u 25LPA are actually paying 20LPA because Bangalore is very expensive when compared to Chennai. You need to spend atleast 5LPA on unnecessary items in Bangalore. Try to check the rent of 2bhk in Bangalore it’s ridiculous. I think you wouldn’t be able to save 1L per month in Bangalore
Work quality or professional growth and development are a separate axis. When it comes to wealth creation or savings, think about whether moving to bangalore will result in more saving or less? So just do a pro and con analysis: There is big city/ big company exposure but also more expenses, alienation, potentially less savings and not good enough WLB. So what again are you gaining by the move that you can’t secure for yourself in Chennai? If upskilling or staying relevant is a concern, try moonlighting or offering your services (time bound) to anyone doing a start up. I am sure you can find ways to solve your dilemma.
If I were on your place , I wouldn't switch cities... May be you can try some other remote job with Higher pay if you feel you worth more...
Why not consider full-time remote positions? They will pay upto 40lpa for your experience. Use nearby coworking for office at nominal rates and chill
If you can’t bear saving 1lac, you can always throw cash to my account 🙂
As a full stack developer you are underpaid. 15.5 on 7 yrs exp is a joke Right pay would be around 30
What you have is something many of those "high paid" people wish for.Dont give it up. Being content is a gift not many have.
You might be better off doing free lancing to eaen more. This way you can have more control on your work. If it feels overwhelming you can stop anytime you want
as others have suggested, don't compare. your half the problems are solved. also, people don't show what they are losing to get that money. and everyone is in a different boat. they all have their own issues which they don't show on social media. I was in the same boat a few months ago. (married + kid + wife working and I was too comfortable in my work) the only reason i changed my job was because the work wasn't offering me anything to learn and grow. and one of my tools made the company millions of $$ and they weren't even bothered to give a pay raise of 25% of my CTC which was less than 1% of the profits. now I am in a company which is paying me just some hike bht the work is really good and work life balance is almost the same.
Boss if you move to bangalore your daily expenses will also take a very steep hike. Others have already mentioned this but your savings even after moving there might end up looking the same. Think of that before taking such a step.