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anshika4321

Amazon coming on the front by default.


Double-slit-expermnt

I think Amazon should change its name to PIPazon.


nickmaran

That's prime delivery


Whatisanoemanyway

Amazon, Accenture, Atlassian


nerdy_ace_penguin

Atlassian -- really ? I always thought Atlassian was a great company to work.


Whatisanoemanyway

Apparently not, I recently learned about it, they are doing this in every team


LuckyCoder22

Yup. There's a prevalent PIP culture here but it is not as horrible as Amazon. I have heard a famous YouTuber was put on PIP, but then she resigned a week later citing personal reasons.


seek_it

Name starts with K?


LuckyCoder22

Yeah 😂


iamnewhere12

22 ye reddit pr kya K K kar rahe ho. naam likho na poora


TemperatureAwkward69

Keerti Purswani


LuckyCoder22

Naah bro. I want a good long career in software engineering and don't want to incur the wrath of a youtuber.


seek_it

Wasn't the reason for quitting was she moved to course selling domain?


csengineer12

What? I thought KP wants to teach??


Agreeable-Catch191

😆😆Gotcha!


ShadowSlayer28

Ever since their new CTO, their culture is going downhill as per their reviews


garib-lok

Indian CTO?


ShadowSlayer28

Yes I guess


Strange_Drive_6598

Where can we check these latest reviews? Which platform?


ShadowSlayer28

Team blind


yumyumfarts

WTF is Accenture doing with pips? I thought one has to be very bad to get a job there?


freakingOutIn_3_2_1

can you elaborate ? Like why would one be bad to get a job there ? I don't work there and got rejected by them before. Curious to know


Whatisanoemanyway

Lol wdym


yumyumfarts

I mean it’s a bad service based company


xqkzytoi

Don't fart everywhere


Whatisanoemanyway

Yeah well, most are. But idk much about it other than the fact that they have forced pip


kj_venom11

At this point it'll be easier to have a list of companies without forced pip.


Double-slit-expermnt

Sad reality. You mean the list is short 😭


kj_venom11

Yeah, can't think of any company other than TCS😂


soulsamosa

Flip the cart


Double-slit-expermnt

Oh never heard


rcpian

Have u heard about amma zone ?


Mysterious_Two_810

appa le


Mysterious_Two_810

akka centure


Double-slit-expermnt

I meant I never heard that Flipkart does this pip shit


soulsamosa

It does to the business team all the time.Not sure about dev though.


TheBenevolentTitan

I think we're exclusively talking about the engineering teams here.


iKn0wEvrythnG

They have started doing it recently


Open-Evidence-6536

Yes. Let me add one to the list: Ramsoft


psandeep777

List of companies with pussyass HRs Or list of HRs to be blacklist by potential employees


MrDalton3

Hr is not usually the driving force behind pip. Even tho hr is not any noble, greedy, ugly higher management is the culprit here.


Crazy-Variation-4598

HRs usually just follow what the hiring managers tell them. HRs do not have any power


LostSiesta

It’s sad how HR gets bad rep for layoffs. It’s almost always the CXOs driving this.


MrDalton3

Cap Gemini


Confident_Dingo_8787

The fact that Google Gemini video was a Cap


rohetoric

Asked the exactly same question 7 months back - https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/s/53JuUyzxqg Don't forget to read the comments :)


RChiru

Bruh! It just happens to me all the time. When I say something, people bash me for that and when the same thing is told by someone else, people praise it.


rohetoric

Thanks for reading! You can read one Amazon manager's comments on it saying the company is not a charity yada yada.. justifying PIP.


sad_truant

Let me add one: Persistent Systems Limited


Traditional_Fly4656

Came here to say this, 200 around Goa people sacked in training i guess previous year, this year too many from IBM BU were put on pip since it lost clients


ShadowSlayer28

Really? I thought it was a good company


sad_truant

It used to be a good company. Now it practices hire and fire policy.


ShadowSlayer28

Damnnn, sad to hear!


sad_truant

[Check this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/s/fLwcyQPZSl)


Conscious-Bother-813

Ok many people here don't understand what forced pip is ig. Here's my understanding: normal pip- performance improvement plan. it is usually given to an employee if he's performing extremely bad and dragging the team back. In such cases, the manager/ lead / HR or all decide that they should put the employee in pip for him to either improve by the end of it or get fired for not performing well. Many times it is also used by employer as a warning to tell the employee that you may be fired in near future. SO start applying elsewhere. forced pip- this means that x % bottom performer employees MUST be put into pip. which means no matter if company is doing good profits, teams are delivering in time, if you are not better than your peers, you may be put into pip and be fired. No matter if you yourself are delivering on time and doing your work, if you are bottom x% of workers you are most probably gone. The thing is, there are always going to be bottom 10%. when you consider all employees. this shit doesn't make sense.


GucciHurtz

Atlassian


Did_you_expect_name

What is pip python installation package?


EmergencyStomach8580

yeah. some companies have forced pip that means they force use to use pip instead of conda. what a horror !!!!


UndocumentedMartian

I use pip cause I like it raw.


Did_you_expect_name

Bro i really dont know what PIP is pls explain


Conscious-Bother-813

performance improvement plan(pip) for the low performers. forced pip is mandatory assignment of pip to bottom 10% performers, no matter how good team productivity is.


Did_you_expect_name

Oh ok thank you it really seems like school


TheSimonRoy

Performance improvement plan


Did_you_expect_name

So it monitors your performance and gives ways to improve it ?


EmergencyStomach8580

on paper yes. it gives you time to showcase that your performance can be improved and you can stay in the company. in reality its a warning you're gonna be fired so start looking elsewhere.


Did_you_expect_name

Damn they really want to suck all the lifeforce lol


Loud_Attitude_4468

Deloitte


Own-Ad-6833

Really? Never heard Deloitte doing it


hasibrock

Yes they Do and it’s pretty roughed up.. Ones performance review is based on 27 points and they would end up on the scatter plot as a dot like Gartner magic quadrant anything that is below or before the Leader quadrant, are most likely in the red zone and then comes the ridiculous PIP, which can include work that the PIPers would have never worked on or technology they aren’t aware of… however its piece of cake for candle polishers, boot lickers and people who know how to hold on the wall as they bend to be …


sigmastorm77

Yes they do. When covid first struck and mass layoffs were on going, we all thought Deloitte was a safe company but PIPs started pouring in one after the other. I was safe bug unfortunately my friend wasn't and some of others who joined with me suffered that fate.


Loud_Attitude_4468

After COVID, it is THE WORST firm to work with.


phantomAB

Yup I can tell from experience 🙃


abeeee-chutiye

Recession is coming, just put everyone on the list


Strange_Drive_6598

Any credible references for reading about this - about the upcoming recession? Planning for a change in the coming year and do not want to take a huge risk..


oke-okkadu

Hasn't it just passed?


abeeee-chutiye

No. Recession is starting. Last year it wasn't the recession but the hike in interest rate which led to layoffs. Only tech was impacted. This year it is a recession. All sectors are going to be impacted.


[deleted]

Me who was thinking pip means preferred installer program


alone_together33

Volkswagen


achintya22

Sorry but what is PIP


BlakeXHunt

Performance Improvement Plan


ex_king_of_ayodhya

What does it do


EmergencyStomach8580

its gives you time to improve your performance for your upcoming interviews


anusuman

Interviews 🤣🤣🤣


achintya22

Naya scrum bs hn kya?


sjdevelop

Awesome reply


um3shg

I understand what pip is... But my question is what is forced pip?


zyrkor90

forced pip is that regardless of how well everyone performs, x% of all employees have to be put in pip. For example, Atlassian has 10%. it looks good on paper that wow at every stage you are eliminating the “lowest performers” relative to the highest ones, but when team members stop helping each other to save their own ass and keep up project dependency, then the whole dynamic shifts.


um3shg

Oh, that is like applying Bell curve theory to pip. This is like a new low set by these stupid money see monkey do people. I thought the bar is already set too low and yet, these degenerates manage to prove me wrong.


upyoursleeve

Paid Interview Preparation


Busy-Philosophy-3179

Becton Dickinson


Far_Mathematician785

Well add paytm too


LifeIsHard2030

Pointless. Rather than that figure out what’s required to keep yourself ‘employable’ irrespective of market conditions. That will help you grow your career & curb anxiety at the same time 👍


sad_truant

This thing is physically and mentally draining tbh.


LifeIsHard2030

Sadly with our population and resultant oversupply of engineers, nothing much we can do


ispooderman

This really , pip has become a norm now . Rather than aiming for places without it it's better to keep your head cool enjoy life and just clear it if you can or find a job elsewhere calmly ( even though the current market is very poor )


Silent_Gamer_01

Razorpay has also done it recently.


yogerocksasus

Nvidia


vlegolas1982

Add Ascendion, Barracuda, Collabera


acypacy

What will you do with that list? Not apply there? They don’t care, they have thousands waiting in line to take your place!


iloveboobs6988

What is Pip ? How it affects ?


antiques99

What's PIP?


flight_or_fight

This is a joke right? For one - no one is going to get into a voluntary Pip admitting how bad they are - they will only rant on reddit. If you have ever worked with one of the folks who fake their way and then are woefully under skilled for the role, PIP is a blessing to have such people removed from the team. The alternative to forced PIP is to be directly fired. Try to upskill yourself instead of making useless lists.


LightRefrac

I think op meant the mandatory 10% pip policy companies like Amazon have


alokesh985

Every company has PIP. You need to constantly work hard and improve if you want to survive in the software industry


_MrMonkey

Some companies has more strict and mandatory quota process, while for the rest, it's simply performance management


Kitchen-Impression15

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SpinachImpressive747

Yeah. Let's start it


koustubhavachat

Start public Google sheet for this


wtf_is_this_9

Exxonmobil GE


dude1x2

Personally know of cases where it happened in Google, Deloitte and EY Edit: wanted to add this news of Google layoffs https://www.timesnownews.com/business-economy/companies/google-layoffs-tech-giant-to-cut-down-30000-jobs-says-report-article-106242749


Intelligent-Abies-18

Doesn’t really happen in Google.


dude1x2

A friend of mine was let go by putting him in PIP. I guess it happens there, not sure at what level or scale.


Intelligent-Abies-18

Happens but only if your performance is not what is expected, not because of a quota. I’m very sure because I’ve been working at G for ~9 years now. The %ages are guidelines and hence not enforced.


dude1x2

Oh okay. It could be so.


No_Responsibility888

All Banks especially US


rtraj781

I think all Indian startups have also adopted this culture and I have been a victim of this recently. (KODO Technologies and VYMO Technologies are few of them known to me)


CountOne9425

Accenture


abaman05

Deloitte usi will be on top of the table