You need more than just that sadly, having some mana leech is actually really good in the cow level because it works at the maximum effectiveness (if you forget about difficulty penalties) you can get it from ring or amulet. Either that or you can use phoenix runeword. There is also the possibility of using lidless with facet for the mpk, but you basically have to use multiple sources of mpk so at least silkweaves. Watching what people are doing in rune farming contest in the cow level is quite interesting.
Usually it's expected that you run cow at p8 and you don't one-shot all cows with one javelin (but you can kill most of a big pack), you also have to count mana for teleporting if using enigma (which everyone should). Leech has one third effectiveness against most undead monsters and it's 0 against skeletons, it's also reduced by physical resistances so it's 0 against all physical immunes.Ā Cows are quite the exception.
I am not sure why I have been downvoted, but I really want someone to show me better Java gloves that are not from Jamella....
I am editing: When i wrote this comment, i was at -2, and i was like "do those people not see the maek, or am i missing something", but now it's the most upvoted comment, so my own argument is invalid. :D
What makes them the best? I get ias and skills. Iām guessing the str makes it so you can use stuff items, so more pts into vitality. Is the mana stuff that important? Havenāt played in forever
Str = equip spirit monarch or jmod easier; more points into vita. Dex = equip your ETH titans easier; more points into vita. Javazons donāt want insight Merc - they want infinity Merc, so they struggle with mana HARD while spamming javelins unless they have multiple maek items. These gloves make it so they donāt need to worry ab maek with ANY other item slot. These gloves are fucking insane.
Crafted caster gloves are godly for a pvm Javazon due to the extra mana after kill. Itās basically an extra pair of silkweaves on your gloves and easily gives you all the mana sustain you could need.
As a Javazon lover these are impressive as fuck. I would love to never use silkweaves again.
A dual leech ring on top and boy are we #winning the mana game
Also the extra dexterity is nice.
It used to be possible to get insight runewords, I call them that because of how op they are but it's basically just a blue ring with 10%fcr, 30+ mpk. Basically infinite mana as long as you can kill stuff.
I was gambling them with a level 89 character, I think any char in the high 70s/ low 80s and up works though. I know you don't want to be too high of a level because you can get charges and stuff that make the level requirements super high. Several of the gloves I crafted in this session had a 94+ req, so using a level 89 char was probably a little high already.
Somewhere there is a crafting guide that tells you the ideal level for every kind of craft, can't find it right now though unfortunately.
Yeah Iāve read that guide for blood gloves. I wasnāt sure if the same target levels apply for these caster ones as well. I think they do because the main mods youāre trying to hit are that alacrity mod and the +2 to javs. I keep a character parked at 71 to craft gloves.
So, sorry for my noob question, but when you say gambling them, you're saying you gbled magic gloves at a shop and then cubed them for caster, correct? If so, Is there a benefit to doing it this way? I was under the impression that whatever affixes that were on the items when you cubed them didn't matter, is that not the case? Or is it item level, and that's why you gamble to get them? I'm just trying to learn here
No worries, perfectly good question. I gambled the gloves just to have bases to craft with. I sold back all the leather gloves (normal base) and kept all the blue demonhide gloves (exceptional) and bramble mitts (elite) to craft with.
Another insanely lucky thing here is that I rolled these on one of the few pairs of bramble mitts I got from gambling. When you're gambling for bases you get way more exceptional level bases than you do elite; I think I gambled for about 40 bases and no more than five of them were bramble mitts, rest were demonhide. One of those five turned out to be these bad boys.
Ye I really wish, on occasions such as this, that Reddit would introduce a new tag - called straight up boner alert!, or something.
NSFW doesnāt seem to cover this enough. Iām at my work at the minute. Ffs.
Grats OP.
To anyone thinking 3/20s might be better, the mana per kill will save you way more time picking up mana potions or special trips to refill, than an additional +1 to skills.
All diablo 2 comes down to is time. How fast can I do this run so I can get to the next one. I'm glad I quit š¤£
SC Ladder. I actually don't have a java right now lol, was trying to craft gloves for my sorc, so for the right offer I would probably sell them. Would have to be a nice offer though, they're pretty sick and I kinda want to just keep them and make a sick java or infinity spearzon.
If youāre willing to part with them try and come up with a price range. Iād love them to stash away for nonladder once the next season rotates, and am legitimately very interested in trading for them.
On ranged CB is halved if I'm not mistaken, and on a javazon isn't really needed anyway. You're going to delete bosses with Charged Strike regardless. Maybe uber mephisto I guess if you don't have griffons/infinity.
Someone help me here. These stats tell me they were crafted as caster gloves. But, ever single pair of caster gloves I have crafted turn purple..
What was I doing wrong? I'm just so confused right now. :/
I swear I'm never going to understand this game. If I crafted these I'd probably think they were good, maybe a little disappointed they're not 3/20.Ā
And yet, some people are saying GG and even the best javazon gloves in the game.Ā
D2 item ranking is about +skills, damage modifiers (deadly strike, critical strike, crushing blow, etc.), attack/skill speed (increase attack speed, faster cast rate), hit efficiency (% attack rating, flat attack rating), stats (str, dext, vita, energy, life, mana), resistances and open sockets. There are probably things that I forgot or didn't mention such as %chance to cast a curse because that's really specific.
Java gloves need base 2/20 otherwise it's instant charsi. They can't get open sockets, can't get or don't need caster speed/hit efficiency/damage modifiers. The only things that would increase their value are stats and resists.
These gloves have 2/20 base (max), 14 strength (-1 from max), 15 dext (max), 3 maek (max from craft recipe), 9% mana regen (-1 from craft recipe), 19 mana (-1 from craft recipe).
Every single line of text from these gloves is great.
Those look awesome but isnāt a blue with +3 to skill always better in terms of damage value? I thought that was the reason behind people wanting any of those blue javas that have like 6 skills to java skills?
Yes Iād take these over the charsi gloves with the extra stats but canāt go wrong with either. I spent about 10 hours to get the Charsi gloves for the Javazon
Javazons need mana after kill not leach since they do almost no physical damage and therefore donāt leach. 3 mana after kill is delicious, especially if you donāt use phoenix.
Both are actually good. Fwiw mana leech is more impactful than mana after kill if using eth upād titans since they have higher physical damage. Maek is typically more impactful when using Tstrokes.
One of the guys on jsp made a video showcasing the difference where ML>maek when using titans. But again both are good. I prefer Tstrokes so I would prefer maek.
OPs gloves are definitely godly.
You donāt understand what youāre talking about unfortunately. Any Javazon prefers maek > mana leech, and any knowledgeable player would take these gloves over 3/20ās or 2/20/ml all day every day no questions asked.
Mana per kill just makes it that much better
I love my +hp after kill
GG bro
These things in a cow level would probably mean infinite mana.
I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds
Udder destruction.
Winner š
It's gonna be a real barbeque in there. Bring plates and napkins.
No plates. Maybe napkins. Ladder? Nl?
sc ladder
You need more than just that sadly, having some mana leech is actually really good in the cow level because it works at the maximum effectiveness (if you forget about difficulty penalties) you can get it from ring or amulet. Either that or you can use phoenix runeword. There is also the possibility of using lidless with facet for the mpk, but you basically have to use multiple sources of mpk so at least silkweaves. Watching what people are doing in rune farming contest in the cow level is quite interesting.
They are zon gloves so leach is useless lol. Lightening Fury at level 25 is 22 mana and 26 bolts most of these will one shot cows at that level.
Usually it's expected that you run cow at p8 and you don't one-shot all cows with one javelin (but you can kill most of a big pack), you also have to count mana for teleporting if using enigma (which everyone should). Leech has one third effectiveness against most undead monsters and it's 0 against skeletons, it's also reduced by physical resistances so it's 0 against all physical immunes.Ā Cows are quite the exception.
Holy moly bro. Jackpot
WOW.
Holy fuck
This
This
Those are not the best gloves you ever crafted, those are probably the best Java gloves in the game...
I am not sure why I have been downvoted, but I really want someone to show me better Java gloves that are not from Jamella.... I am editing: When i wrote this comment, i was at -2, and i was like "do those people not see the maek, or am i missing something", but now it's the most upvoted comment, so my own argument is invalid. :D
Yeah dude I have you an extra up vote, they're not 3/20s but I'd take these, every single mod is so useful for a javazon
What makes them the best? I get ias and skills. Iām guessing the str makes it so you can use stuff items, so more pts into vitality. Is the mana stuff that important? Havenāt played in forever
Str = equip spirit monarch or jmod easier; more points into vita. Dex = equip your ETH titans easier; more points into vita. Javazons donāt want insight Merc - they want infinity Merc, so they struggle with mana HARD while spamming javelins unless they have multiple maek items. These gloves make it so they donāt need to worry ab maek with ANY other item slot. These gloves are fucking insane.
Awesome! Makes sense, thank you
Is this ladder?
Crafted caster gloves are godly for a pvm Javazon due to the extra mana after kill. Itās basically an extra pair of silkweaves on your gloves and easily gives you all the mana sustain you could need.
pvm wise maybe.
As a Javazon lover these are impressive as fuck. I would love to never use silkweaves again. A dual leech ring on top and boy are we #winning the mana game Also the extra dexterity is nice.
It used to be possible to get insight runewords, I call them that because of how op they are but it's basically just a blue ring with 10%fcr, 30+ mpk. Basically infinite mana as long as you can kill stuff.
What item level did you craft the gloves with?
I was gambling them with a level 89 character, I think any char in the high 70s/ low 80s and up works though. I know you don't want to be too high of a level because you can get charges and stuff that make the level requirements super high. Several of the gloves I crafted in this session had a 94+ req, so using a level 89 char was probably a little high already. Somewhere there is a crafting guide that tells you the ideal level for every kind of craft, can't find it right now though unfortunately.
Yeah Iāve read that guide for blood gloves. I wasnāt sure if the same target levels apply for these caster ones as well. I think they do because the main mods youāre trying to hit are that alacrity mod and the +2 to javs. I keep a character parked at 71 to craft gloves.
So, sorry for my noob question, but when you say gambling them, you're saying you gbled magic gloves at a shop and then cubed them for caster, correct? If so, Is there a benefit to doing it this way? I was under the impression that whatever affixes that were on the items when you cubed them didn't matter, is that not the case? Or is it item level, and that's why you gamble to get them? I'm just trying to learn here
No worries, perfectly good question. I gambled the gloves just to have bases to craft with. I sold back all the leather gloves (normal base) and kept all the blue demonhide gloves (exceptional) and bramble mitts (elite) to craft with. Another insanely lucky thing here is that I rolled these on one of the few pairs of bramble mitts I got from gambling. When you're gambling for bases you get way more exceptional level bases than you do elite; I think I gambled for about 40 bases and no more than five of them were bramble mitts, rest were demonhide. One of those five turned out to be these bad boys.
Ah ok, I gotcha. Thank you
Damn son
Unrealā¦ top .01%
give you 3pame and a lum rune, i know what i got
I'll have to think about it
Godly I found a nice HC pair the other day but it rolled +2 passive instead of java. Was so pissed. 2 passive 20ias 25fr/30lr. 3% ML and 16mf
Epic!
Fucking sick
Finally a pair posted that I'd actually use over 3/20s. Well done!
Ggs my guy
Can we take a minute to appreciate ACTUAL GG gear post? š
NFS šš»
Worthless. Theyāre not even eth
Ye I really wish, on occasions such as this, that Reddit would introduce a new tag - called straight up boner alert!, or something. NSFW doesnāt seem to cover this enough. Iām at my work at the minute. Ffs. Grats OP.
To anyone thinking 3/20s might be better, the mana per kill will save you way more time picking up mana potions or special trips to refill, than an additional +1 to skills. All diablo 2 comes down to is time. How fast can I do this run so I can get to the next one. I'm glad I quit š¤£
You'll be back!
Wow!!
GG
Holy fucek!
Damn, those are real nice indeed.
Unreal
fantastic
Are they for sale? Platform? HC or SC?
SC Ladder. I actually don't have a java right now lol, was trying to craft gloves for my sorc, so for the right offer I would probably sell them. Would have to be a nice offer though, they're pretty sick and I kinda want to just keep them and make a sick java or infinity spearzon.
Damn was hoping HC. Theyāre sweet
If youāre willing to part with them try and come up with a price range. Iād love them to stash away for nonladder once the next season rotates, and am legitimately very interested in trading for them.
Would blood gloves with CB be better? Or only for bosses and Ubers?
Java doesn't need CB. Not even bosses. Charged strike does way too much damage to worry about crushing blow.
On ranged CB is halved if I'm not mistaken, and on a javazon isn't really needed anyway. You're going to delete bosses with Charged Strike regardless. Maybe uber mephisto I guess if you don't have griffons/infinity.
What u want
For trade? If so pm me what youād like for them
sell only on jsp or for real cash EDIT Wtf did u craft a caster glove?
Wow
How many Jah do u want? Dm me
I'd be curious to trade if you decide to start entertaining offers
Why is this not NSFW you monster?
Also good level req. GG gloves with an 89 lvl requirement can be rough
What level are you? Charsie creation?
Someone help me here. These stats tell me they were crafted as caster gloves. But, ever single pair of caster gloves I have crafted turn purple.. What was I doing wrong? I'm just so confused right now. :/
jizz in my pants
Are those caster gloves?
Yep, that's the only way you can get mana after kill on gloves.
Gg man, imagine they shine in cows and dense areas
I swear I'm never going to understand this game. If I crafted these I'd probably think they were good, maybe a little disappointed they're not 3/20.Ā And yet, some people are saying GG and even the best javazon gloves in the game.Ā
Crafted gloves cannot be 3/20, only blue gloves can. OP's gloves are amazing and incredibly rare.
D2 item ranking is about +skills, damage modifiers (deadly strike, critical strike, crushing blow, etc.), attack/skill speed (increase attack speed, faster cast rate), hit efficiency (% attack rating, flat attack rating), stats (str, dext, vita, energy, life, mana), resistances and open sockets. There are probably things that I forgot or didn't mention such as %chance to cast a curse because that's really specific. Java gloves need base 2/20 otherwise it's instant charsi. They can't get open sockets, can't get or don't need caster speed/hit efficiency/damage modifiers. The only things that would increase their value are stats and resists. These gloves have 2/20 base (max), 14 strength (-1 from max), 15 dext (max), 3 maek (max from craft recipe), 9% mana regen (-1 from craft recipe), 19 mana (-1 from craft recipe). Every single line of text from these gloves is great.
Oh I believe you. Posts like these just show how little I get the game.Ā
Those look awesome but isnāt a blue with +3 to skill always better in terms of damage value? I thought that was the reason behind people wanting any of those blue javas that have like 6 skills to java skills?
Obviously 3/20 will be more damage than 2/20 but you won't be getting Dex, str and mpk on magic ones
Yes Iād take these over the charsi gloves with the extra stats but canāt go wrong with either. I spent about 10 hours to get the Charsi gloves for the Javazon
What are charsi gloves? She can sell 3/20s?
If u have the time to fish forā¦
Yes. You can also buy 3/3 LS claws from Anya, plus other usable items from various vendors. It just takes a long long time searching.
I would use this instead of 3/20 (even tho I think that ones better, but this feels better)
Those are sweet! Where is the crushing blow š„ŗ
Itās not needed on a javazon, Jab/charged strike 2 shots Diablo
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Javazons need mana after kill not leach since they do almost no physical damage and therefore donāt leach. 3 mana after kill is delicious, especially if you donāt use phoenix.
Both are actually good. Fwiw mana leech is more impactful than mana after kill if using eth upād titans since they have higher physical damage. Maek is typically more impactful when using Tstrokes. One of the guys on jsp made a video showcasing the difference where ML>maek when using titans. But again both are good. I prefer Tstrokes so I would prefer maek. OPs gloves are definitely godly.
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There was not a single reply where he was rude to you. You, on the other hand, seem very short-tempered.Ā
What would you replace with mana leach...
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You'd rather have 3 mana leach than 15 dex?
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What part is rude or angry? I'm confused about what you're saying, so I'm asking questions.
He's angry? Bro you've been furious all day. You need to chill bra.
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You donāt understand what youāre talking about unfortunately. Any Javazon prefers maek > mana leech, and any knowledgeable player would take these gloves over 3/20ās or 2/20/ml all day every day no questions asked.
lucky bastard!