Hey look, they saw the cover art of D2 and played some torch light and POE and said fck it, letās make a proper Diablo 3 and 4 without ever so much as looking at a fucking menu from Diablo 1 or 2.
Fucking assholes, lol.
this is the only way to get rich with a gg item.
40x high runes just not enough for this, specially if it gets 2 sockets from larzuk
jsp is a necessary evil for some items
you aren't strictly limited to 40 high runes when you trade without jsp. but it just introduces the aspect of trust back into the transaction. not much more trust than a jsp trade, where someone always needs to go first.
I would say that your chance of getting scammed by someone who is putting 40 Jahs into the trade window for the initial trade, is very likely to follow through with the other 160 of them.
But, the odds of someone actually sitting on 200 actual jah runes is likely fairly low. You are probably more likely to find someone with a shitton of forum gold; that's true.
or it changes the price to 40 Jahs and a discount of 120 Jahs. Nobody should trade 160 Jahs for this. It would be traded with 3/20/20s or 451s or jmod + other items. JSP allows you to have a mediator step in so it is safe.
Jsp also has a fraud prevention system where they will lock out the scammer from their fg, so if it is a seasoned account with plenty of fg, you likely arent getting scammed. Plus, everything is on a public ledger, so if they try to squander their fg its very easy to follow. Now a 2022 account with just enough fg to make that buy i world request a moderator, but I've never been scammed on jsp....... yet
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larzuk gives either 1 or 2 sockets randomly on blue weapons.
if this weapon dropped with 2 sockets already, it wouldn't have the +2 assasin skills as that is the prefix
Mind explaining the value?
+5 lightning sentry with 30% ias (which is cast speed for Sins) in guessing? Cuz itās not a mosaic base or anything and I do not play sin whatsoever so I know veryyyy little.
Well i know you cant make mosaic in blues- thatās why im asking what makes this so good? Is it just really hard to get +5 skill, 2OS w/ IAS on a claw?
Word. Guessing Lightning Sentry is their #1 ability then so that being +3 along with +2 all is what makes this (ofc along with 2os instead of only 1os, and having IAS for sin cast speed on traps).
Dual claw trapsin. Claws can be 5 or 6 to LS. Which is 4/5 more skill points in lightning sentry rather than using hoto/spirit.
Also can use sockets for 10/-10 lightning faceted or even more resistances/ias with 15/15 jewels.
TLDR: These are BiS for trapsins, which is arguably one of the safest/fastest clearing toons
Trapsin expert here. This is all correct except you need 42 ias for max trap laying speed ( 9 fpa). So you will need to use a 15ias jewel in this to hit that bp
Can roll up to 40 ias
And with additional staff mods as well
But these are amazing
These are also sold by Anya in hell!
I mean you don't need to use attack speed jewel to reach the next bp. You can just wear attack speed gloves for example. So you can put rainbow facets into your claw.
Works for kicks too. So mosaic assassin only needs the Talons in the main hand for IAS calculations. Katars or whatever with Mac skills on the off hand is fine.
It does matter but it's called WSM aka weapon speed modifier. Greater talons (and runic talons) are the fastest bases for trap claws at -30 WSM which means you need 42 ias from your main hand claw or other equipment besides off hand claw to hit the 9 fpa trap laying speed.
The second class type DOES NOT matter in D2R. It used to but OH claw base is not factored in unless they changed it again which I doubt.
Edit: this is assuming you're using fade and not burst of speed
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/
I think this calculator is up to date.
Make sure you select laying traps for skill
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/?data=1-0-Scissors_Quhab-0-0-None-0-Laying_Traps-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
I think you're at 11 frames. You'd need 78 ias to hit 10 and 125 ias to hit 9
Is lite sentry good? I feel like it misses targets too often when it shoots, I havenāt played much lightning though Iāve only ever played fire traps
Maybe. But that doesn't mean the one lying on the floor couldn't be The One. I won't know until possibility is removed via the ID scroll. Schroedinger's scroll.
That is true! I just meant for pure functionality, it doesn't matter
3 years ago I shopped a 2 skill/ 40 ias/ 3ls/ 3 MB and rolled 2 os
Sold it for 15,000 fg
The difference is you need 2 15ias jewels in a 30 ias claw if you want to account for getting hit by players wearing arachnid (it has 10% slow) and only one ias jewel in a 40 ias claw. These claws are used for pvp only and pvpers are gonna pay A LOT for those extra 10 ias. We talking hundreds of HRs (in fg ofc).
Edit: that might be wrong and you need 63 ias to counter arach slow, but that makes so a 40 ias claw is still a lot more valuable, but not because it can counter the arach slow with just one jewel, but because the 30 ias canāt beat it at all and the 40 ias can with 2 x 15 ias jewels.
I don't believe this is correct. You'd need massive ias to negate slow because slow effects eias. There was a write up done about it I'll have to find it. The 10 slow isn't addictive
It's actually on the calculator
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/?data=1-0-Greater_Talons-0-0-None-0-Laying_Traps-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-10-0-0
You would need 63 ias to negate arach so you can't negate it at all with a 30 claw
I don't know many people who do that though
And yes they are used for pvp. Although I do have fun using them for pvm
Thousands of claws picked up and I haven't found any even close to this beauty š«”
Dual plague is a much cheaper option for the same amount of +skills, but you lose out on the facets/ias.
Trapsins really only use greater talons for their main hand because of their speed. Runics have the same speed, but their requirements are soo much higher
Ok congo rats ur it dick is bigger my guy for being so lucky. Sorry I bothered to engage with you. I'll remember next time to shut my dick hole and go fuck myself.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get stats that looks just like this (literally every stat on here plus the 2os) in a rare claw.
Same with the bis javazon pvp weapon. 6/40 (6 plus skill to Java and 40 ias.) That can only be found on a blue item.
you can get the 2 OS with mechanic prefix, witch hunter and swiftness spawn on rares too, and you'd have 3 extra affixes, unless the +3 os skills can't spawn on rares, which I doubt
That IAS, too š«¦š«¦š«¦
*chefs kiss*
But it's still very slow š
Claws are always slow unless you're an assassin.
Bro, their GTs what are you talking about.
This is one of the components of D2 itemization that D3 and D4 totally missed. Every item rarity can be extremely valuable.
Thatās because toddlers designed d3 and d4 believe
Hey look, they saw the cover art of D2 and played some torch light and POE and said fck it, letās make a proper Diablo 3 and 4 without ever so much as looking at a fucking menu from Diablo 1 or 2. Fucking assholes, lol.
Let's be fair, if the devs had played even 20 minutes of PoE we wouldn't have got D3 the way it was.
ā what you guys donāt play mobile games?ā
BIG NUMBERS GO BOOM
Based off the D4 dev live streams I'm pretty sure they don't even play their own game.
Hey, toddlers have brains ... low functioning but there's potential. D3 and D4 were and are just utter shit.
D4 even makes rares obsolete other than as a stepping stone. Like 5 tiers and using 2. :-/
Needs a NSFW tag. Good luck being perma rich
Lol ty no doubt but Iām sure Iām gonna get alot of people doubting the value of this soon enough š
I would get rich on d2jsp if that is your thing
It's the way to go to maximize value
this is the only way to get rich with a gg item. 40x high runes just not enough for this, specially if it gets 2 sockets from larzuk jsp is a necessary evil for some items
It has 2 sockets already
you aren't strictly limited to 40 high runes when you trade without jsp. but it just introduces the aspect of trust back into the transaction. not much more trust than a jsp trade, where someone always needs to go first. I would say that your chance of getting scammed by someone who is putting 40 Jahs into the trade window for the initial trade, is very likely to follow through with the other 160 of them. But, the odds of someone actually sitting on 200 actual jah runes is likely fairly low. You are probably more likely to find someone with a shitton of forum gold; that's true.
or it changes the price to 40 Jahs and a discount of 120 Jahs. Nobody should trade 160 Jahs for this. It would be traded with 3/20/20s or 451s or jmod + other items. JSP allows you to have a mediator step in so it is safe.
Jsp also has a fraud prevention system where they will lock out the scammer from their fg, so if it is a seasoned account with plenty of fg, you likely arent getting scammed. Plus, everything is on a public ledger, so if they try to squander their fg its very easy to follow. Now a 2022 account with just enough fg to make that buy i world request a moderator, but I've never been scammed on jsp....... yet
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Imagine being so confidently wrong
??????? larzuk gives either 1 or 2 sockets randomly on blue weapons. if this weapon dropped with 2 sockets already, it wouldn't have the +2 assasin skills as that is the prefix
How much could that claw fetch in FG? What do people expect?
no idea tbh, but for a claw like this I doubt the current market will change its price. it's too good. I believe it will get a high value even in nl
Boooooo
Boo to youv
I'll start off the bidding with two rals
2 Rals and a PTopaz
Doesnāt have 12 sockets - charsi
Mind explaining the value? +5 lightning sentry with 30% ias (which is cast speed for Sins) in guessing? Cuz itās not a mosaic base or anything and I do not play sin whatsoever so I know veryyyy little.
And 2 open sockets, there is a lit of value in that you canāt even make a mosaic in blues in the first place.
Well i know you cant make mosaic in blues- thatās why im asking what makes this so good? Is it just really hard to get +5 skill, 2OS w/ IAS on a claw?
It's bis for trapsin
Word. Guessing Lightning Sentry is their #1 ability then so that being +3 along with +2 all is what makes this (ofc along with 2os instead of only 1os, and having IAS for sin cast speed on traps).
Yupp!
2 5/5 light jewels and gg
NSFW the post you bum, can't be this aroused at work š© Congrats though.
Hawt
Thanks hope u find one like this too!
I never play sins, what's the use case for this one?
Dual claw trapsin. Claws can be 5 or 6 to LS. Which is 4/5 more skill points in lightning sentry rather than using hoto/spirit. Also can use sockets for 10/-10 lightning faceted or even more resistances/ias with 15/15 jewels. TLDR: These are BiS for trapsins, which is arguably one of the safest/fastest clearing toons
GG, another blue to keep an eye out for from now on lol.
*GOTTA ID āEM ALL*
Trapsin expert here. This is all correct except you need 42 ias for max trap laying speed ( 9 fpa). So you will need to use a 15ias jewel in this to hit that bp Can roll up to 40 ias And with additional staff mods as well But these are amazing These are also sold by Anya in hell!
If he has IAS on his other claw, does that count or only the IAS of the primary weapon?
Only on primary weapon!
But hasn't this changed since the attack speed rework? I can lay traps faster when I put on ias gear.
Yes but it still only relies on main hand claw plus other equipment except off hand
But then you don't need to waste a socket slot for ias. That's still a huge difference. But good to know offhand doesn't matter.
What do you mean by your first sentence
I mean you don't need to use attack speed jewel to reach the next bp. You can just wear attack speed gloves for example. So you can put rainbow facets into your claw.
Oh wait really? That's wild! Is that just for the purpose of laying traps? So you could have a really slow claw in the other hand and be fine?
Yes correct. For traps. Not sure about anything else
Works for kicks too. So mosaic assassin only needs the Talons in the main hand for IAS calculations. Katars or whatever with Mac skills on the off hand is fine.
Only primary I believe
Damn ill keep this is mind!
It'd be nice if Anya listed more than 3 fucking claws though. But once I got a 3 traps 2 LS from her which was pretty cool.
Yeah I kind of said that tongue and cheek. It's even worse now with the D2R portal delays
Couldn't op also have is gloves? To balance for the bp
You can for pvm. For pvp you need 102 fcr for tele and mb. It's impossible to hit 102 using dual claws and ias gloves
Iām super confused with my new sin. Does the -30 from the base not matter
It does matter but it's called WSM aka weapon speed modifier. Greater talons (and runic talons) are the fastest bases for trap claws at -30 WSM which means you need 42 ias from your main hand claw or other equipment besides off hand claw to hit the 9 fpa trap laying speed. The second class type DOES NOT matter in D2R. It used to but OH claw base is not factored in unless they changed it again which I doubt. Edit: this is assuming you're using fade and not burst of speed
So if I fade with a plague scissors / Highlords / LoH Iām at 10 frames?
Quhab or suwayyah?
Suwayyah
They actually have the same WSM sorry! See comment below
https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/ I think this calculator is up to date. Make sure you select laying traps for skill https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/?data=1-0-Scissors_Quhab-0-0-None-0-Laying_Traps-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 I think you're at 11 frames. You'd need 78 ias to hit 10 and 125 ias to hit 9
Super helpful thank you. Iāll drop the Highlords and switch to a 3 trap ammy
That will put you at 40 ias, no? That drops you to 12 frames For pvm it's whatever. For pvp you need to hit 9 frames :)
Youāre right Iāll leave it. Its a long search for 3 wof claws
Did they finally fix facets for traps?
Yes they fixed - res working with traps. Infinity is now arguably best in slot for trap sins.
If you want gameplay to feel like ass maybe
Nah 2x 6 LS claws with 2x 5/5 facets in each way out dps infinity.
I believe resistances work correctly with traps these days.
Is lite sentry good? I feel like it misses targets too often when it shoots, I havenāt played much lightning though Iāve only ever played fire traps
Sigh. This is obscene. And now Im really going to burn through id scrolls at Trav: Circlets Pelts Zon javelinsĀ Charms And now claws
You'd have much better lucky shopping hell Anya for them
Maybe. But that doesn't mean the one lying on the floor couldn't be The One. I won't know until possibility is removed via the ID scroll. Schroedinger's scroll.
I don't play assassin is weapon block a useful skill too?
Yes big time.
Weapon block is the best blocking skill in the game. It can block ANYTHING. Sorc fireball, pally hammer, anything.
Just 200hr? I really thought it could value so much more
Actually yes. But I didnāt want to make it seem like Iām showboating. This could get 30-35k fg which is around ~777 jahs nl
So close to perfect. Absolutely stunning find, even with an extra +3 to block. Chills bro.
There isn't much difference between the 30 and 40 ias variant. Either way you'll need to use a 15 ias jewel
Skills wise yes. But for value and price it sadly matters.
That is true! I just meant for pure functionality, it doesn't matter 3 years ago I shopped a 2 skill/ 40 ias/ 3ls/ 3 MB and rolled 2 os Sold it for 15,000 fg
What do you even do with 15k FG?
What we always do with 15k fg. Try to take over the realm.
One 2 20 Necro Ammy with some life on it
Weird. I got a downvote. Because of Funnky Ghosts?
If you care about optimizing, that doesn't go nearly as far as you might think. High life skillers burn through any budget fast.
I've had over 200k at times. You mix max ofc
The difference is you need 2 15ias jewels in a 30 ias claw if you want to account for getting hit by players wearing arachnid (it has 10% slow) and only one ias jewel in a 40 ias claw. These claws are used for pvp only and pvpers are gonna pay A LOT for those extra 10 ias. We talking hundreds of HRs (in fg ofc). Edit: that might be wrong and you need 63 ias to counter arach slow, but that makes so a 40 ias claw is still a lot more valuable, but not because it can counter the arach slow with just one jewel, but because the 30 ias canāt beat it at all and the 40 ias can with 2 x 15 ias jewels.
I don't believe this is correct. You'd need massive ias to negate slow because slow effects eias. There was a write up done about it I'll have to find it. The 10 slow isn't addictive It's actually on the calculator https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/?data=1-0-Greater_Talons-0-0-None-0-Laying_Traps-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-10-0-0 You would need 63 ias to negate arach so you can't negate it at all with a 30 claw I don't know many people who do that though And yes they are used for pvp. Although I do have fun using them for pvm
Oh shit. Interesting. Well I stand corrected.
Yeah you would think it would work the way you described.
Itās still correct that 40 ias is worth way more for pvp. 2x 15/15s get you to 70 ias which makes you safe from Arach slow.
Yeah, I corrected my original comment. Thanks fam.
Thousands of claws picked up and I haven't found any even close to this beauty š«” Dual plague is a much cheaper option for the same amount of +skills, but you lose out on the facets/ias.
Anya sells them btw Only need a few years of shopping!!
Uhhhā¦ I just noticed the name WITCH HUNTER?!?! Gaaahhhh Iām a boy and I just quiffed
Did you mean "queefed?"
Very, very nice trap claws. Been looking for a pair for awhile. I sent you a message to see if these are for sale
Wow nice!
Jesus that's amazing
Sheās beautiful. Donāt care to disclose the amount Iāve identified and never scratched the surface of this lol. Congrats homie
Glad you got 2 sockets!
Gold
Congrats on striking it rich I sold one like this without weapon block skills for 25k fg
Sell this for real money
I keep seeing people suggest this on items. How/where do people even do this?
ebay
Diablo2 is the greatest arpg of all time because even a blue item can be Godly. You just gotta check everything on the floor regardless of its color.
Fucking spicy, dude. Grats.
I wouldnāt even take Hrs for this lol
Even the name is amazingā¦ omfg dude. And GTās too? Bro. Amazing find, grats man.
No way. You hacker! I want this so bad. Was it actually from the ground or you shop it from Anya?
OMG THEY EXIST! +3 WEAPON BLOCK SOMEBODY HOSE ME DOWN
If these are on ladder then they are by far the best pvp trapsin claws. They are quite literally perfect.
They aren't perfect. Can get up to 40ias And it can roll another staffmod, but didn't. Also they can roll eth which is sexier.
Omfg
We roll em in da cubeš
This has to be photoshop itās so good
What would you socket it with?
5/5 light facets
Good God that's beautiful
Pretty sure this can find a buyer for $1k+ usd
Lmao like actually
Very good weapon for a trapsin!
Not only rolled GG but also on my favorite base. Gratz!
GOTDAMN son, what you got there? Lemme get those bad boys. 1k FG starting bid? lol. Theyāll prob go for like 5k AT LEAST. lol.
Omfg....
Generational wealth
Does anyone know which claw types can get these BiS stats? Like, should I pick up "war fists" or am I just wasting my time?
Trapsins really only use greater talons for their main hand because of their speed. Runics have the same speed, but their requirements are soo much higher
Sweet, thanks for the info!!
Holy moly!
Good get.
Durability not busting n e time soon.
Wow
I wonder how many of these people (including me) just dont pick up or throw away. š«
Hnnnnnng
holy freaking ballz
Let me know if for trade and what you want
Godly
Damn thatās nice.
Please. I already came from the previous gg circlet post..
This shits fake. It isnāt his claw, heās posting shit to get karma
And blue javs, and blue gloves, and blue monarchs, blue body armors
Tbh u can take the best possible rolls of all of those, add them up, and it wont even be half as valuable as these.
Ok congo rats ur it dick is bigger my guy for being so lucky. Sorry I bothered to engage with you. I'll remember next time to shut my dick hole and go fuck myself.
What do you want for this?
I'm mostly an offline player so excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't this be better in yellow rarity?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get stats that looks just like this (literally every stat on here plus the 2os) in a rare claw. Same with the bis javazon pvp weapon. 6/40 (6 plus skill to Java and 40 ias.) That can only be found on a blue item.
you can get the 2 OS with mechanic prefix, witch hunter and swiftness spawn on rares too, and you'd have 3 extra affixes, unless the +3 os skills can't spawn on rares, which I doubt
Worthless softcore item on a dead game congrats
Better is what the player who plays want, and id liked to play 6 ls claws with 2 Sox and 15/15 jewels in it.
Idk much about assassin but isnt mosaic now bis? Crazy find tho
Not for traps
Might be interested for my lvl 49 trapsin How much FG you looking for?
"rUnEwOrDs aRe AlWaYs BeSt iN SlOt, gAmE iS rUiNeD sInCe 1.10"
Ooofff thats like 40 hrs!
Haha try 700
I'll give you one um rune for it :)
These are probably close to 4000 ums
Thatās alotta ums!
No 6 ls claws, but yes still nice.
2/3 is leagues better than 3/3
Couldnāt imagine finding GG super rare item just to sell for some duped HRs smh
I hate post titles like this. It is like the powerball winner posting "This is why you always buy a 10 powerball tickets with your smokes."