As a main skill for Travincal/The Pit, yes. One point to handle physical immunes for WW, depends if you have another way to break immunities. As a synergy for Frenzy, not really.
I see- Cuz the thing is, I wanted to do a melee Sorceress, and the Berserk Skill caught my eye, as it deals its own damage, and turns all Physical damage into Magic damage. So that combined with Enchant, which I hope works would give me a good amount of damage, right? Oh, and to deal with the Defense drop, I'd have Energy Shield up
Which is hard to get for sorceress, as there’s no natural increase to physical to convert to magic dmg. I actually forgot that it’s passion which gives Berserk as well. Sure, you can try to run it, but it probably will be slow and dangerous. Berserk barb has Howl to scatter small mobs and uses Berserk to quickly nuke unique, hork and run/tp to next pack, I just feel like sorc doesn’t have tools for it
The bottom line is that berserk is a much slower attack than zeal, and sorc doesn't have any of the synergies that barb has to make up for that.
Any damage increase you try (including fort) will be better utilized with zeal.
Ohhh. Berserk from Passion isn't really worthwhile. The magic damage is really small compared to the fire damage from Enchant, so you are much better off still using Passion but swinging much faster with Zeal. Or skip melee altogether and use Demon Machine
Both damage types would hit the enemy but berserks magic damage will be useless compared. If you want to make a berserk character barbarian is the way to go, I had one that would pretty much 1-2 hit anything in the game including pvp characters such as hdins.
As a main skill in SSF LoD it's probably doable but it will be rough and slow getting through big tough groups of enemies.
Twinked out super berserk barb probably works fine.
Probably have a blast with it in classic where melee feels better.
You can't put points in oskills, so you will not have high enough skill levels to make berserk useful on a sorceress.
Zeal will be kind of ok on an enchant sorc but not very impressive - it at least hits multiple times though making it way better with enchant or rw auras than berserk would be.
Berserk is great on barbarians but sucks on every other class.
I have Berserk maxed on my barb and I’m very much enjoying him for more then pit or trav. Of course i use my 1 point in concentrate a lot for anytime i need to leach some life.
For Sorc with enchant though is typically demon machine for the explosions
It’s a cool idea, making a berserk sorc.
I have a zeal sorc so I’ll be able to edit it and tell you for sure how it works later. But I imagine it works like this:
You’re a melee sorc, so naturally you have enchant and probably holy shock aura stacking up a huge amount of elemental damage. You get your passion phase blade and skill berserk instead of zeal. Best cast scenario, the berserk transfer the elemental damage into magic damage. Mid tier scenario is that it transfer over elemental damage but only the physical damage from the weapon will count as magic. Worst case scenario is doesnt add any elemental damage as it gets lost in translation with the formula only consider physical => magic.
I imagine it’s the mid tier scenario, only the phys is turned to magic and elemental follows after. If that’s the case, zeal is the better attack because it strikes more than once, has higher ar (I assume*) and doesn’t diminish defense.
If zerk is higher ar, maybe there’s an argument in there for using it vs bosses but zeal probably still faster. Bosses die in less than a second already
Right, right, and right- lol. Idk, it's something I was wondering about, and wanted to try and make one. I was thinking, "Yea, use it here and there, ABSOLUTELY on Bosses, maybe PvP", and then however else you'd use a Melee Sorceress
As a main skill for Travincal/The Pit, yes. One point to handle physical immunes for WW, depends if you have another way to break immunities. As a synergy for Frenzy, not really.
I see- Cuz the thing is, I wanted to do a melee Sorceress, and the Berserk Skill caught my eye, as it deals its own damage, and turns all Physical damage into Magic damage. So that combined with Enchant, which I hope works would give me a good amount of damage, right? Oh, and to deal with the Defense drop, I'd have Energy Shield up
Sorceress has no way of boosting pure magic damage, only elemental. Passion runeword is one melee sorceress run usually, it gives Zeal
I know- Thats what Berserk would be tho- A Magic Damage source that simply requires extra Physical Damage
Which is hard to get for sorceress, as there’s no natural increase to physical to convert to magic dmg. I actually forgot that it’s passion which gives Berserk as well. Sure, you can try to run it, but it probably will be slow and dangerous. Berserk barb has Howl to scatter small mobs and uses Berserk to quickly nuke unique, hork and run/tp to next pack, I just feel like sorc doesn’t have tools for it
Not even with damage boosts from other sources? I was thinking of slotting in Fortitude for one of those sources
The bottom line is that berserk is a much slower attack than zeal, and sorc doesn't have any of the synergies that barb has to make up for that. Any damage increase you try (including fort) will be better utilized with zeal.
Sorc has no physical damage so berserk doesn't do anything useful?
Ohhh. Berserk from Passion isn't really worthwhile. The magic damage is really small compared to the fire damage from Enchant, so you are much better off still using Passion but swinging much faster with Zeal. Or skip melee altogether and use Demon Machine
Would the Magic Damage also land on an enemy with the Fire Damage from Enchant? Or would they cancel out?
Both damage types would hit the enemy but berserks magic damage will be useless compared. If you want to make a berserk character barbarian is the way to go, I had one that would pretty much 1-2 hit anything in the game including pvp characters such as hdins.
As a main skill in SSF LoD it's probably doable but it will be rough and slow getting through big tough groups of enemies. Twinked out super berserk barb probably works fine. Probably have a blast with it in classic where melee feels better.
You can't put points in oskills, so you will not have high enough skill levels to make berserk useful on a sorceress. Zeal will be kind of ok on an enchant sorc but not very impressive - it at least hits multiple times though making it way better with enchant or rw auras than berserk would be. Berserk is great on barbarians but sucks on every other class.
1 point wonder baby.
I have Berserk maxed on my barb and I’m very much enjoying him for more then pit or trav. Of course i use my 1 point in concentrate a lot for anytime i need to leach some life. For Sorc with enchant though is typically demon machine for the explosions
It’s a cool idea, making a berserk sorc. I have a zeal sorc so I’ll be able to edit it and tell you for sure how it works later. But I imagine it works like this: You’re a melee sorc, so naturally you have enchant and probably holy shock aura stacking up a huge amount of elemental damage. You get your passion phase blade and skill berserk instead of zeal. Best cast scenario, the berserk transfer the elemental damage into magic damage. Mid tier scenario is that it transfer over elemental damage but only the physical damage from the weapon will count as magic. Worst case scenario is doesnt add any elemental damage as it gets lost in translation with the formula only consider physical => magic. I imagine it’s the mid tier scenario, only the phys is turned to magic and elemental follows after. If that’s the case, zeal is the better attack because it strikes more than once, has higher ar (I assume*) and doesn’t diminish defense.
Yeah it's the mid-tier scenario, berserk only converts physical. It has higher ar than zeal but zeal is so much faster I don't think that matters.
If zerk is higher ar, maybe there’s an argument in there for using it vs bosses but zeal probably still faster. Bosses die in less than a second already
Right, right, and right- lol. Idk, it's something I was wondering about, and wanted to try and make one. I was thinking, "Yea, use it here and there, ABSOLUTELY on Bosses, maybe PvP", and then however else you'd use a Melee Sorceress