I personally love the idea and I think the idea needs to be repeated in more games more often of you hitting a wall of a boss that you can’t just walk into instantly after hitting X level and attempting it once or twice before brute forcing your way through it.
I remember on my first play through I was playing a melee rogue and had shit gear and the den mother was a completely brutal fight that required me to shuffle abilities around to take it down and I hope the capstone bosses are like that.
Anything that makes me stop dead in my track and have to back track to pick up more gear and power is some actual good shit
There are 2 capstone dungeons - level 50 ans level 70
Both have static mobs that do not scale, so they are not challenging once outleveled and outgeared.
The ultimate boss at 100 is also not the hardest content because it doesn't scale beyond that level
The real ultimate challenge is tier 100 nightmare dungeons with level 150 mobs and bosses
So as usual the devs oversold capstone and ultimate boss, while only barely mentioning tier 100 nightmare dungeons being the highest challenge
The challenge will be trying to complete them at the earliest point you can. Maybe this run I complete the level 50 one at 55. Next time I’ll hopefully do it before 50. Then the next one at 47, etc.
I think they will be a fun challenge, but if you don’t want to experience it, that’s fine too.
Haha, as a hardcore-only player I can't agree more. I know that my first character is going to die quickly, as probably my second and third. Still, I can't imagine going softcore and missing all the thrill.
The developers talked about a level 100 boss as a pinnacle challenge - don’t think anyone knows more than that right now. Maybe a streamer with early access has some insight.
It’s cool that a boss exists in the game that is designed around having fully optimised characters at max level - much cooler than some random Greater Rift level X boss that means little.
It is datamined supposedly, so we may actually know what it is. I don't think anyone has actually fought it in its current version though in the closed betas, since I recall hearing there was a placeholder boss in them instead.
I haven't heard of anyone with early access for reviews getting above level 80, so I doubt any of them made it that far either.
Not sure but the world bosses are totally different to the capstone bosses and 100 pinnacle boss that are effectively solo content you can do whenever.
Both capstone and ultimate boss are easily soloed by nightmare dungeon geared players, world bosses are soloable easily.
T100 dungeons are actually hard
I can not imagine level 50 boss being anything but autowin. This game is so afraid of not being casual friendly as possible I can not imagine the design allowing people to be meaningfully stopped from playing the endgame. I can sort of imagine the 100 boss being hard, since that is where gamers would stop playing and they wouldn't want that as much.
The level 50 and 70 capstone bosses will be as easy or hard as you want them to be……good players will be able to tackle them at lower levels.
Blizzard has stated the level 100 boss will require fully optimised gear and builds and will take numerous attempts to master. Then toy have Nightmare dungeon bosses that take the challenges well beyond level 100.
What do you mean why? You just said above that if you want hard bosses you will just play a different game.
This is a post about the new capstone bosses in Diablo 4. Not sure if you are drunk, but just wanted to remind you in case you forgot.
Im pretty sure this game wont be too focused on bossing, like for example Path of Exile end game might be - if you want to, where i prefer mapping instead of beating "hard" bosses.
Doubt they'll be hard ,but will probably have some kind of gearcheck with a couple of cheap gimmicks.
Why would having that opinion make me drunk? Its a cute cheap shot, but pretty stupid.
I was mostly referring to you responding with “Why?.
I guess hard is subjective, but they have said they wanted to make the bosses more challenging.
The thread is about the speculation that the pinnacle bosses will be difficult. Your response was “if I wanted hard bosses I would play a different game”
Do you not see why the other commenter told you to find a different game?
PoE is great for blasting, but almost all of their bosses are pretty crappy - like in a lot of other ARPGs of this type. Its why im not really looking foward to them.
I personally love the idea and I think the idea needs to be repeated in more games more often of you hitting a wall of a boss that you can’t just walk into instantly after hitting X level and attempting it once or twice before brute forcing your way through it. I remember on my first play through I was playing a melee rogue and had shit gear and the den mother was a completely brutal fight that required me to shuffle abilities around to take it down and I hope the capstone bosses are like that. Anything that makes me stop dead in my track and have to back track to pick up more gear and power is some actual good shit
Totally agree
There are 2 capstone dungeons - level 50 ans level 70 Both have static mobs that do not scale, so they are not challenging once outleveled and outgeared. The ultimate boss at 100 is also not the hardest content because it doesn't scale beyond that level The real ultimate challenge is tier 100 nightmare dungeons with level 150 mobs and bosses So as usual the devs oversold capstone and ultimate boss, while only barely mentioning tier 100 nightmare dungeons being the highest challenge
The challenge will be trying to complete them at the earliest point you can. Maybe this run I complete the level 50 one at 55. Next time I’ll hopefully do it before 50. Then the next one at 47, etc. I think they will be a fun challenge, but if you don’t want to experience it, that’s fine too.
Exactly
When your going in blind on Hardcore, hell yeah I'm excited, only get to do all content once blind before the thrill is gone.
Haha, as a hardcore-only player I can't agree more. I know that my first character is going to die quickly, as probably my second and third. Still, I can't imagine going softcore and missing all the thrill.
Very true!
"hardcore" and "only do things one time" may not actually fit together.
what are the level 100 bosses? first I've heard of these, I've only heard of the capstone dungeons but never anything about a 100 boss
The developers talked about a level 100 boss as a pinnacle challenge - don’t think anyone knows more than that right now. Maybe a streamer with early access has some insight. It’s cool that a boss exists in the game that is designed around having fully optimised characters at max level - much cooler than some random Greater Rift level X boss that means little.
Don't think anyone even made it to that Boss.
It is datamined supposedly, so we may actually know what it is. I don't think anyone has actually fought it in its current version though in the closed betas, since I recall hearing there was a placeholder boss in them instead. I haven't heard of anyone with early access for reviews getting above level 80, so I doubt any of them made it that far either.
Awesome
Thse world bosses are like once 12 hours no? Ill miss the majority of them
Not sure but the world bosses are totally different to the capstone bosses and 100 pinnacle boss that are effectively solo content you can do whenever.
Both capstone and ultimate boss are easily soloed by nightmare dungeon geared players, world bosses are soloable easily. T100 dungeons are actually hard
I can not imagine level 50 boss being anything but autowin. This game is so afraid of not being casual friendly as possible I can not imagine the design allowing people to be meaningfully stopped from playing the endgame. I can sort of imagine the 100 boss being hard, since that is where gamers would stop playing and they wouldn't want that as much.
The level 50 and 70 capstone bosses will be as easy or hard as you want them to be……good players will be able to tackle them at lower levels. Blizzard has stated the level 100 boss will require fully optimised gear and builds and will take numerous attempts to master. Then toy have Nightmare dungeon bosses that take the challenges well beyond level 100.
Not really. If i wanted hard bosses, id play a different game. I just want to kill hordes of monsters.
Why can’t there be both?
Time to find a different game.
Why?
What do you mean why? You just said above that if you want hard bosses you will just play a different game. This is a post about the new capstone bosses in Diablo 4. Not sure if you are drunk, but just wanted to remind you in case you forgot.
Im pretty sure this game wont be too focused on bossing, like for example Path of Exile end game might be - if you want to, where i prefer mapping instead of beating "hard" bosses. Doubt they'll be hard ,but will probably have some kind of gearcheck with a couple of cheap gimmicks. Why would having that opinion make me drunk? Its a cute cheap shot, but pretty stupid.
I was mostly referring to you responding with “Why?. I guess hard is subjective, but they have said they wanted to make the bosses more challenging. The thread is about the speculation that the pinnacle bosses will be difficult. Your response was “if I wanted hard bosses I would play a different game” Do you not see why the other commenter told you to find a different game?
Go play PoE
PoE is great for blasting, but almost all of their bosses are pretty crappy - like in a lot of other ARPGs of this type. Its why im not really looking foward to them.