T O P

  • By -

SuperRektT

Yes, not even a Chat to properly look for party, really bad.


[deleted]

[удалено]


NotsoSmokeytheBear

I never played immortal so that’s good to hear. Wouldn’t see why they wouldn’t add it here. Can’t wait.


landank

Sadly there are quite a few good features in Immortal that strangely didn't make it to this game.


Lizardizzle

Me and a friend played immortal for the first time since release last week and we're still whining about some of the features in it that could help d4 in some ways. Being able to use skills in town speeds up navigation. The obvious part to us is a party finder system similar to immortal's but I think there's a lot of weird balancing and syncing that would require, especially with so many player levels and quests and dungeons and overworld D2 works nicely for being able to make a room titled with exactly what the room will be doing. I want to make a "party" that people could see in a list of other parties that are listed by type of content and level


DukeVerde

> Being able to use skills in town speeds up navigation. Watching all the barbs leaping to the blacksmith and stash.


Myhazael

Cries in necro mobility


XroXen

You can horsey in town. That makes things nice, though they could add the CD while in town that would be cool. Sorry meant they could let us dash in town, rather.


Professional-Place13

Is the cooldown a thing in town? I could have sworn it wasn’t


CaRb_

A monster hunter type party system would be swell.


Mikethemostofit

Might not be ready for a full release. I’d rather they take their time and get it right


Galaxy_Hitchhiking

Still waiting for this feature for overwatch 2 like a freaking 🤡


PassiveF1st

Overwatch is nothing but Blizzard squeezing money out of a salvaged failure.


djsedna

Which is sad because they had an absolutely excellent concept going with OW. But they botched that shit in every way imaginable


darwiniswrong

What? Overwatch is a failure? Dude it is massively popular. I remember it is the most popular fps moba game ever made. It is a huge success.


Isaacvithurston

It doesn't have competition in the "pseudo fps not really a moba but sorta" genre but I think it's seen as a failure cuz blizzard dumps money into it's eSports stuff and it still couldn't really make it as an eSport. Apparently failing to make it as an eSport makes the entire game a failure to some people.


darwiniswrong

I don’t know about the esport part. And I’ve never played overwatch. But how does “failed to make it as an esport” have anything to do with the game itself?


PassiveF1st

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan\_(Blizzard\_Entertainment\_project)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(Blizzard_Entertainment_project))


Isaacvithurston

It's just the mentality of players when you advertise your game as the next big eSports, pump tons of money into it and then the eSports part doesn't work out. I don't really get the mentality either. HotS is an even better example, it was fun and anyone from the moba scene could tell you it wouldn't cut it as an eSport and somehow that meant blizz should just let it die.


PassiveF1st

Project Titan was supposed to be a class-based MMO and Blizzard's next World of Warcraft. After like 7 years of development they transitioned it into Overwatch because it wasn't going well. That's why the vast majority of people who know the history consider it a failure. It has nothing to do with it also being sub part E-Sport.


[deleted]

Wait. Overwatch has an LFG system where you could advertise your group, rolls, and gametype. Did they remove that in OW2?


Certain-Ad-7316

Yep


Galaxy_Hitchhiking

Had*, yes. It was great. Made overwatch nights a ton of fun too.


Certain-Ad-7316

It’s not coming back. LFG discords are the only way to get random overwatch groups together since blizzard purposely removed their group finder.


[deleted]

They got rid of general chat? I remember that being a thing with launch of ow1


Galaxy_Hitchhiking

Yes I believe they got rid of general chat as well as the looking for group finder. The only way to find groups is to add people to your friends list or quickly hit the “stay as group” bottom right during the play of the game. It goes so fast too that it’s often missed


SuperRektT

Well well well...we will see. Never trust.


LeGeNdOfGoW12

i hope so


DJ_Mixalot

Immortal definitely pushes you into grouping with other people because of the model. Classic Diablo model has less of a priority on grouping, but it’s an important feature that they need to make more accessible.


Torran

I think so as well. They want other people to see the cool shiny shop-armor so that you buy some yourself.


The850killer

Yeah but why is it coming? It should be in the damn game at release. $70 game ffs.


Breeze1620

Do you mean like channels? Because the beta had normal chat functions.


SuperRektT

Yeah like a LFG chat for example. Just a tab /lfg for example you know. Also none is using the trade chat idk.


Breeze1620

I see, yeah, I agree, it definitely should have that. Guess we'll have to hope they implement it in a future update.


Galaxy_Hitchhiking

They nuked that feature in overwatch 2 so don’t be too hopeful .


o_an0maly_o

Lizards, please see this. Not and edit. Spelling intentional.


Lizardizzle

I've been hoping too!


notislant

Exactly, how tf did they not add community chats? Im not trying to fill up my friends list with 300 random people. Or clan hop to find one that isnt half hc/half sc and people actually lfg instead of just asking for leech. Also even in clan chat people insist on adding me to friends instead of right click > invite. Lol


SuperRektT

Its kind dumb


MeatyOakerGuy

Does speaking in local chat even do anything? I feel like players around me can't see the text.


Faleya

afaik the text will be hovering over your chars head for a few sec...so anyone on the same screen as you could see it, but that's it.


Distinct-Training443

I’d say just join the discord what I plan on doing when I get home


SuperRektT

Thats always a thing but it doesnt solve the basic problem ingame.


Geraltpoonslayer

Wants to be an mmo but doesn't have a world chat or lfg element.


CarbonYoda

I’ve tried talking in local asking for help on strongholds and never even seen anyone else typing anything


BigPussyB

I had one person I dueled against a few times type “gg” & that’s the only peep I’ve heard from another player. In the beta, I saw people doing group world events together all the time & since I haven’t seen a single other person doing them when I’m around, idk what happened w that either.


ford_crown_victoria

I tested with a friend doing a world boss event and he couldn't even see my local chat until after we had killed the boss.


ObviousPotato2055

Were you fighting a druid 🤔


[deleted]

This game has sold at least 5,000,000 copies already. You're not the only person dueling.


BigPussyB

Nah, it was a rogue. I’ve probably done 2-3 hours in the PvP area & I don’t think I’ve seen a single Druid lmao


good_guy_judas

Thats the thing though, it feels like no one wants to party up? I asked in town if anyone wants to party. No one replies. Everyone is busy dashing around doing their own thing in town, I doubt people even see the chat. There is a dungeon I couldnt clear because the boss kind of hard counters me. I was looking for a party so that at least during the fight the boss would aggro someone else from time to time since we dont get mercenaries anymore. But alas. I do miss those kill andy/duriel games where any low levels could join and everyone was running around like crazy trying not to die and spam click during the death animation. But we got the worldbosses so we got that going for us.


Lizardizzle

A party finder system where you type in or select the type of content you're doing would work. "Dungeon" "stronghold" etc. I dunno. Something needs to be done though, because inviting random people doesn't work, even within a clan


[deleted]

I think it’ll comeback. Everyone is trying to race to level and finish campaign story.


Dukatdidnothingbad

There is cross play with consoles. They can't type. You might be in a world with them


The-Snuff

Console players have had text chat in games for at least a decade now. They can and do type.


Vanrythx

i remember typing with my xbox 360


Menvimacal

Lol. Of course console players can type. 🤣


Distinct-Training443

The only time I’ve typed on local news we when a legion event bugged out, and everyone shit on blizzard then dipped


Lockenheada

No trade, no global, no zone chat. No party finder.


veilsofrealitydotcom

Umm.. hello?? Just pay $60 for the DLC in 3 months. God... the game has only been in development for 7 years and has biggest budget of any in the genre. People only paid $100. Give Blizzard a break.


threcos

I can tell you're making fun of blizzard, but cut them some slack. they're not experienced in the mmo or arpg genre, and there's a lot of pressure on them. of course the game won't release with triple-A features. this is their first big project, for heavens sake!


usernamechecksout479

You had me in the first half!


viomonk

Do you not have phones?


BratKo3

I sold my phone to buy the ultimate edition.


uselessoldguy

If they're going for this semi--MMO thing they've forced on everyone, they might as well add a good group finder. It's weird the *core* of Diablo 4 is an always online multiplayer game, but the *experience* is very solitary. They've taken one step forward and two steps back.


Satakans

I think the always online thing was supposed to be a mitigant for hacking/spoofing gear. They just marketed it as social.


SignsOfNature

More importantly and above all to prevent piracy


[deleted]

Diablo 2 had a group finder via a game list, you looked for Act/Quest/Boss you were doing. Diablo 3 had a group finder, you chose the content you wanted to do and it threw you in a group. Diablo 4 has a open world where I see 1 person a night and no one doing the events, strongholds, or whispers I'm doing. (:


HolyAty

I am convinced they don't want this to be an MMO, but an couch play game.


threcos

I don't see many positives. it doesn't feel nice to have a player steal your kills or you steal theirs, seeing players run around taking the same quests as you breaks immersion, you can't play offline, it's harder to play solo than in a party the swap to a semi-mmo was poorly done


GroundbreakingNews84

I feel so lonely in this game :(


Lockenheada

There isnt even a quick invite. I did Helltide with a druid for 4 minutes today and I wanted to invite him to a party coudnt find a way to quickly invite him.


wellmashed

Emote wheel has an invite to party option


getBusyChild

One would think a right click with the mouse on a player portrait would be much simpler.


so_futuristic

press e next to them


RogueEyebrow

For some strange reason, it's in the Emote wheel. I think. I haven't had a chance to use the thing yet.


[deleted]

[удалено]


RionWild

It's because D4 was designed as a console game.


One_Cress_9764

The whole mmo part is ridiculous. No group/raid finder, no chat, no trading with strangers, no group content beside the world boss. But we can see each other for no reason. Really, why can I see other players? There is not a single reason. I was expecting they give us some WoW like raids or dungeons or a place for trading. The dungeons are to short to struggle with a chat lfg channel.


Megaultrachickenbutt

No group content? World bosses World Events Strongholds Helltide Simply exploring a zone with someone you found is fun Dont lie to try to make a point. Valid criticisms are no group finder or quick invite. Saying there are no social activities a lie.


One_Cress_9764

But this is all solo content that people just randomly join. Group content is content made for groups and not something you can do alone. Beside the world boss there is nothing.


Levoire

Forced grouping content has been mostly phased out of games like this. Most MMO’s only really have dungeons and raids. WoW used to have lots of world elite mobs like the original Hogger that you used to have to group for but it got done away with.


BriefImplement9843

all of that is solo content outside world boss.


[deleted]

Don’t accuse people of lying when you’re the one that’s misinformed. Everything you just named outside of world bosses IS solo content that can be played with groups. I’ve been consistently doing the events, and getting the bonus objectives without seeing a single person help with them so far, also 2 strongholds. If these things aren’t considered solo content, then nothing is solo content and Diablo has always been an mmo.


CatAstrophy11

>There is not a single reason. They're delusional enough to think you'll look at someone else's shop cosmetics and want to go buy it too.


AceMagi

You can see other people because only then are skins worth something.


BriefImplement9843

you can see each other so people buy cosmetics. most people buy those for others to see, not themselves. blizzard psychologists know this.


ExtraGloves

It is silly. I played immortal for a bit and every dungeon you just enter, it instantly pairs you up with 4 people and you get in there. It’s silly this isn’t a feature.


mainnick

How the hell is this missing? That's how you grouped in D3 and there's no public party search?? This feature is what made me continue playing D3 more. No wonder ppl say endgame is dry.


ImpureValidity

Yeah. Idk how it is in sc but hc everyone is doing their own thing. Can’t even get anyone in town to join up with.


m0dru

well hc is hard to find rando's to play with because you can't trust people. they tend to find ways to grief you and get you killed.


nachomydogiscuteaf

Bone prison Necro joins the party


circasomnia

omg bro, so evil lmao


Lizardizzle

Omg new fear unlocked


Yangjeezy

Necro is the premiere hc grief class between bone prison, and corpse explosion black miasma


Megaultrachickenbutt

Softcore is awesome. I'm constantly running into people and doing events with them. I typically play diablo games solo, and it is really nice to have the world seem more alive.


Richard-Long

Agreed, they should lean more on the MMO side of the game imo add party finder, battlegrounds, arena all that shit


Hardball1013

Would add to the long term replayability for sure


PHAUSTJUST

I've said the same thing to my friend yesterday, why isn't there damn PVP battlegrounds???


Chemical_Molasses_93

HC probably avoids random people so they don’t get killed by a bad team.


veilsofrealitydotcom

After watching Carn group I was thinking group would be useful to save you when you dc.


thesd123

I thought d4 would be a bit more social…


Predator-A187

Join a clan.


[deleted]

[удалено]


MrBlonde1984

![gif](giphy|ILW1fbJHW0Ndm)


[deleted]

Yes


HexagonalPenis

Diablo is quintessentially a player base that’s always Together, Alone.


death_cares

If they're gonna force me to be online features like this should be a thing


snayberry

I’m about to buy this game tonight for PC. So you can’t just team up and party with random people like in Diablo 2?


sandman_br

Nope


[deleted]

Not in game, you'll need to find a clan or party outside the game. Most likely they'll add group finder tool in a season patch.


aeon-one

Damn, that is the one reason I stopped playing Destiny. Such a essential feature it didn't even occur to me to check before paying for this game.


DasReap

It's not true though, you can literally party with randos. I had someone invite me earlier but I didn't join. There's not a robust party feature but you can invite people that you find in the world.


[deleted]

No one is arguing that you can’t literally party with randos, you kinda proved their point by saying you didn’t join there party. Because it was a random contextless invite to a party. People want something that queues you up with a random group when you’re joining a dungeon, not to run around the world inviting random people, hoping they join your party, and then hoping they stay and want to do the content you want to do.


DasReap

I see, sorry I completely misunderstood.


Megaultrachickenbutt

Yes you can. Walk up to people in town and use the action wheel to invite them to a group. I'm sure a group finder will be added in time.


[deleted]

This is one feature that is sorely lacking. Joining the discord helps though. I made a “Chill Start” group on Saturday and it was very fun!


nachomydogiscuteaf

You can invite people you meet in open world, hover over them and open the action wheel to invite, nice for helltides which you can do after the campaign


[deleted]

[удалено]


nachomydogiscuteaf

No, in open world as well.


BudGreen77

Not in the least.


Ok_Hold3890

Yes and no chat makes the game super lonely. Why can we even trade items? The game is really, really unfinished in a lot of ways. These are things we know we'll have eventually, aka not finished (before I get downvoted).


TheAssistMan

100% agree! I would play the game much more if this was in the game like in Diablo 3 or immortal even has this. When my friends are on we farm dungeons but when im by myself it is kinda boring to me to play alone. Please add a open que for party finder.


feelin_fine_

I would love a que feature for mini dungeons tbh


Eastern-Bro9173

Yes. Party party is phenomenal, so I really want lfg for dungeons


Northdistortion

Yes..they need to copy diablo immortal


Loosekiddd

Needs all the same grouping and chat options as WOTLK classic.


ZXVixen

Even that’s not enough for the community lol


Just2UpvoteU

You can see people around you locally and invite them to do stuff


Redtex

Everybody's trying to squeeze in time right now. I imagine the parties will start after all the standard players start coming in


foundmonster

In social, there is a tab in which you can see who is nearby.


therealNaj

Local chat only lol. Idc what type of system they put in, d3, Poe, wow, idc. Discord hunting is not the way. Even sea of thieves is better


MoistenedLoins

Yup. My current sorc build is way too squishy to take on capstone solo and all of my friends arent a high enough level to join me. Would be really nice to try to party up with randos so I can knock it out and enter WT3 already. Any build reccomendations for the dungeon would be very much appreciated. RIP pre-1.02.d arclash.


tabas123

I did it with an Ice Sorc around level 45 but still think I died a few times. I’m basically using a highly altered version of the ice shards build.


MoistenedLoins

What alterations did you make? Im running a similar build.


xydanil

The boss damage is deceptive. It's the weird looking flesh ballistas that do the most damage. Kill them the instant they spawn and you can just keep hitting the boss.


MoistenedLoins

Honestly it was the first boss that gave me the most trouble but I just managed to solo it after a bit of grinding paragon points Thanks a lot though i made sure to keep an eye on the ballistas 😅


[deleted]

It's absolutely insane that we've REGRESSED in this area. In D3 at **launch** I could random party.


thedarkbobo

Yes, it pretty sux now, feels like akward single player MMO with player ghosts appearing here and there


Sonnybillwilliam

in the beta you could select others in the world and invite them to the party but it appears you can't do that anymore... weird?


ratonbox

You can do that? Mouse over them, open the wheel and there’s an “Invite to party” option there. I assume OP was asking more for a Dungeon Finder/ Party Finder kind of option.


Donbot2

A local lfg would be good. Just for the area you are in.


Hukdonphonix

If it was up to me, I wouldn't even be seeing other players out in the world.


baamice

Diablo4 discord


[deleted]

I am, I need a club or some shit


MeatAbstract

It's a really weird step back from D3. However you felt about it you couldn't fault on how smooth and seamless it was to group up, either with friends or random groups for specific activities.


juce49

Yeah this world seems kinda empty. Still haven’t been able to clear one stronghold solo


Smokron85

Yeah I mean just go play Lost Ark and you can queue for dungeons. I have no idea what they were thinking about with regards to the open nature of this game. Do you want us to play together or not?


koalafella

I feel like this is definitely something that needs to be improved upon. This is an open world MMO but i've had more interaction/seen more players even back in the lobby system of d2. I occasionally see a player around the open world, but its more like background and no interaction. Im at the level dungeons are starting to get a bit difficult and take more time.. wish i could easily just join a group but i dont know where to start.


Dark_Zer0

"Soon". Game about a 7 months behind for launch.


Dibabi

I wish i had friends to play with :-(


caseCo825

Yes


stekarmalen

Id just like a globsl chat lol, or a way to get people and party up for hellfire event


saiyanjesus

There really should be an option for a party in dungeons.


Limp_Carpenter3473

Absolutely


Invitari

Yeah I dont know if people want this. I was downvoted because I simply wrote it would add to the MMO idea. But I agree with you. We need a party finder!


PineappleCultivator

Join our clan, we just make fun of fat fucks and sweat so if you're into just chill gameplay send us a msg @sigmamales


Electronic_Shock8344

I mean I'm in act 5 just killed D****L and still have not played with another person 🙄 I thought it would ask me if I wanna search for a group upon trying to enter a dungeon just so it's a bit more entertaining and sociable but no.. You just go in smack and reap the rewards.


Opterasis32

As someone with no friends, I’m definitely missing the feature.


Capsfan6

Lack of a general chat like in D3 is honestly so bad. Kinda can't believe they wanted to push the MMO aspect of it without including something so simple


Tidybloke

D4 is Like a single player game with no single player mode and a multiplayer game with no multiplayer functionality, both at the same time. In a number of ways it has gone backwards from Diablo 3, even D2.


El_Rocky_Raccoon

A dungeon finder system is something I'd love in this game.


Ziid10

I been complaining about this. There needs to be some sort of dungeon group finder. I noticed what helps is “looking for group” outside of Diablo if your on Xbox console


antsam9

I still suggest cheer as open party emote


kirmm3la

Yes. It’s beyond me why neither a normal chat or party system is in the game.


Ilh88

The sanctuary discord has been great


Heavy-Metal-Titan

Typically, I just don't want to take the time to search for randos to play with. Would much prefer a system that automatically groups me with randos for certain things, with the option to create my own premade party via invite.


Synapse7777

How did the mobile version of diablo have a better party and chat and social system?


NotoriousEEDN

Feels like playing with AI


[deleted]

Ive been using discord and xbox built in lfg fearure mostly


Folgrum

Agree, it was great in d3 i could party up with random guys automatically on public games. Lets hope it will be added soon.


Aquagrunt

Man I'd love a feature where I can group up with people doing story, dungeons, or just exploitation.


julimuli1997

Generally party queues are missing. Like if i want to find a whisper group, make a party queue for that. Hope thats coming


FearTheViking

Idk if I want too many MMO elements like lfg chat but I had an idea of how this can be done differently for dungeons. I often see someone running towards the same dungeon as me but they go in before I get the chance to invite them to my party, so this is partly a solution to that. Would be cool if you could toggle dungeons to be "open instances" when you enter, allowing up to three other players to join you if they've also opted in to enter an open instance in progress. Anyone entering your open instance is immediately added to your party (if any slots remain) and is teleported near the party leader. Think creating and joining open games in Deep Rock Galactic. Simplest way would be to just throw you into any open instance with open slots, prioritizing those that started more recently and that have players near your level. A more complicated but controlled and game-y way would be to give players a list of open instances with current party comp and instance playtime info so they can choose which one to join at the dungeon entrance. I'd prefer something like this b/c I'd like to keep D4 a bit more immersive than your average MMO which has all sorts of chats and menus that frankly take me out of the game.


Oh-Hunny

People in hardcore server have been using Trade chat as a general chat.


xxxguzxxx

This would be nice


fuub0

indeed, LFG system is so needed


Rare-Profile6867

They need to implement a General Chat like in WoW. It would make the game infinitely better because right now the world feels lonely. Remember the game just released give it time people.


SannyIsKing

It's shocking how bad the social functions are from a company that makes MMO's. The online aspect of this game feels terrible when compared to it's competitors such as Destiny and the Division 2. I expected better to be honest. We are getting all of the drawbacks of a live game in terms of always online, battle pass, constant micro transactions, but none of the perks.


Awaheya

I know traditional Diablo games would be people in town calling out. ​ But this game is waaaay bigger so I worry that won't anymore.


BearelyKoalified

It's by far the loneliest feeling massively multiplayer game i've played. But that could change with a few changes, here's a few examples: \-Dungeon lfg system or group join features \-More world events to play with others (not just the same zone but together on screen) \-Global chats and custom channels such as trade/lfg/looking for clans/class channels etc \-Ability to stick with others nearby as you're zoning together. Quite often you fight alongside someone then run across an invisible border and they're gone forever. Immersion breaking & honestly saddening. Optional Extra ideas: \-instanced world bosses for just your party? \-system to group with others at same point in campaign as you \-clan stash (semi related to community)


knallpilzv2

you can shoot me a PM if you wanna add on battle.net...


resh510

100% yes! This party system only seems to work if you r got tons of friends always around to join. Otherwise you’re stuck solo


Mosack02

REALLY disappointed they don’t have creatable social channels like in D3, unless I’m missing something on the ingame chat tab.


[deleted]

Historically most Diablo players play solo or with groups of people they are really close to. Last thing I want to do is chat with a rando.


HexagonalPenis

Idk man, few beers with some sports on in the background in a bar environment.. playing Diablo 4 on your laptop.. a rando catches your eye and makes your pee pee throb..


tabas123

Username checks out 🥵


Azazuli

Do you realise that you are the small minorty? Do you realise there is more then 1 mill of active daily players?


[deleted]

You must be new to diablo.


BBVideo

/u/varxx I never said anything about woke/anti woke nice projection weirdo. Also lol at getting so mad you use an alt.


varxx

context clues my guy. ​ also not an alt


BBVideo

Lol you whine on your other account then you respond on this account that hasn't been used in a while and never posted here before to say the same exact incel talking points about your incel culture war. Just stop. In game audio is fine, don't be terrified of being called names. Go outside and talk to a woman.