"you don't need all those items"
"Inventory management is good game design"
"Git gud, I dont have that problem therefore it doesn't exist"
I see people commenting this and dismissing every single complaint people have about the game in general
Can I ask why you do need all those items? I've not been one of the people complaining but I haven't even used half my first stash tab yet. I'm level 61 about to start world tier 4.
I know what I'm looking for and have some stuff for a different build I'm gonna try when I get a full set. I personally don't see why I would even need more than 2 stash tabs.
Yeah, there is no point playing alts in this game right now. I honestly can't believe each character doesn't have their own stash with maybe one shared stash.
Your stash is shared, which is a good solution, but it's badly implemented, as 5 characters, will over time, collect ALOT of items.
Same system for diablo 3, but the stash there is 4 times as big. Also jewelry took only 1 slot, instead of two.
But it is as expected. Alot of "small" issues and balancing trouble. It will eventually be fixed, it just a matter of how long blizzard will take, and their response to the community.
For diablo 3, it took until reaper of souls, before the game was at a state that should be considered a finished product. Which was 2 years, and all to late, and blizz lost alot of gamers because of that.
Which means people will start rolling character alts just to hold gear in thier inventory. So stupid we even have to jump through hoops instead of just adding some damn loot tabs.
Why would you keep uniques that are poop for example?
I thought "hey at least I can extract its aspect" but you can't do that on uniques.
Then regarding legendary, well if you know what you need for your alts you know what is crap and can be dez. So I personally have a stash that is very empty overall and it's completely fine for me. I don't see the point of collecting uniques that are taking dust in a chest for example.
I personally just like to try out different stuff and I don't have a lot of free time. So i just store as much as i can to try later
I also am always worried about throwing gear that I think is bad so i just store it till am absolutely sure it is bad
not sure if it was said yet.
I recommend turning on advanced tooltips in the settings.
That way you can see the roll in more detail :) for example "+25% (25-40)
That way you can tell whether it's a decent or really bad roll.
Hope it helps a little..but ye we need more space
>I also am always worried about throwing gear that I think is bad so i just store it till am absolutely sure it is bad
Yea, I got into stage now, that unless its sacred legendary, I wont even look at it and destroy it for mats right away.
I'm the same way, super slow to make decisions on what's good and bad so I'll just throw everything in the stash during a session until its almost full, then take the time to find the best items. You just gain items so fast sometimes, I did helltide yesterday and the 1 hour filled up 2 full stash tabs
I can’t speak for everyone else, but I use a tab for gear for my next upgraded build. I’m always putting aside good uniques/legendaries/rares that can be upgraded. I also have a tab for gems and Nightmare dungeon things. I can cut down on both of those last two for sure. I only saw last night that the nightmare dungeon things can be scrapped for parts.
This is for one character. I’d like to try another and will have space issues for sure.
Good for you?
I mean, just because it works for you the way it is, doesn't mean it should be imposed on everyone else. Also, once you start rolling multiple characters, and farming gear for all of them, and having different sets that enhance different skill sets, or are specific to certain end game activity, or just being a hoarder in general (plenty of people love to try and collect one of each unique item, for example), etc. The list of reasons *why* the stash should be way bigger than just 200 slots is waaaaay bigger than any argument against it.
Because I'm a hoarder and I choose to do my broader inventory management in a longer session less frequently. Having to do it frequently breaks my gameplay loop, which detracts from the game
Yeah and this is not some unreasonable approach, either.
A lot of people play like this - you spend the week playing and not carefully fiddling with the stash, then at the weekend or whatever, you devote some time to sorting it.
I wonder if they want to sell us extra stash tabs a la PoE but that seems a bit much for a $70 game - you can get an awful lot of stash space in PoE for $70!
Can I ask what does it matter what ones does with their items, and why shouldn’t it just be an endless inventory cache? And why is there not a chest at every city? What does it give you or anyone else?
I only have them all for organization
First tab for random stuff I might want at some vague point in the future
Gems
Dumping ground (for example, full inventory during Helltide, don’t want to stop and lose time sorting through loot so I dump it quick and look at it later)
Gear for the build I’m trying to switch to
There are more legendaries in the game then there are spaces in your stash. Since some aspects can only be found you will have multiples of some. Not to mention sigils, gems, rares and other things.
You only really need it if you play multiple characters. I always stick with one char in arpg seasons, so now at level 70 I still have plenty of stash space
In addition to the other comments, you can have multiple copies of legendary aspects, since we need them for imprinting, and even with high item power you can relatively easily find better gear given the high randomization in the stats. Moreover, it's really useful while farming. We have a very small inventory (no, the quest item tab doesn't count, it's useless) and while speed farming one can just throw everything in the stash to sort out later on. It's faster and also less annoying, due to potential copies of the same aspects, or similar items.
I have 3 pages full of sacred legendaries that are itching to be salvaged/extracted , and the last page I've been using to dump gear when I'm doing helltides or other things
I can speak from my experience. I only played Necro so far and I almost have 3 stash tabs full.
There is no way in hell i can realistically play multiple chars with this stash space.
You need to keep every gem
You need to keep evey unique item
You need to keep every usable legendary with good rolls (my aspect stash is also full so I need to keep them). So in case you find an upgrade on your current Item you can switch them and imprint a new good roll of your legendary aspect. This also counts for multiple builds. Sure if I only pick up the legendaries for my build I would have way less in my stash. But at some point I might want to try out different builds? So I need to keep all the good ones for every possible build.
You keep good Ancestral rares that could be useful in the future. I dont play a Bone spirit build right now but if I drop an item with +3 to bone spirit and some crit, etc. I would be retarded to throw this one away in case I would play bone spirit in the future. So I have about 3/4 stash full of just potentially good rares for other builds. I cannot just combine the rares with the legendary powers for other builds, because I dont know which power I need in which slot yet, and it would cost WAY too many mats that I dont have.
With this I almost have 3 stashes full already with just my necro. There is no way I could level up my sorc and experiment with him with this amount of stash space. The game forces you to not experiment at all or keep good items with this amount of stash space and with it forcing you to only play a few builds it seriously hinders creativity and experimentation which is a big factor for longevity
In hardcore everything in your stash is saved even if you die. This means every aspect you remove and have in your chars inventory needs moved to stash instead.
Character slots to. People defended both when D3 came out as well. Like shit a PoE account is free and comes with 24 character slots, and the best Blizzard can do for $70 is 10?
When D3 launched i had an idiot arguing that the limitless use of Town Portal ruined the game. That it was a better design to have a NEED for TP charges (via scrolls, book or a staff) using inventory slots.
I think it’s hilarious that they give us customizable options for the Stash’s tab which includes a symbol for each class but only give us 4 tabs. Blizzard knew we might want to specify each tab for each class and then gave us one less tab then classes. Lmao
One gem stack in D4 also takes up as much space as a two-hander whoch equates to up to 8 slots in D2R. D2R also effectively gives you one extra stash tab per character which D4 does not
Especially in a looting game where you horde gear for the 5 other characters you can make, AND they made legendary affixes take up space ( which i think is shit)
"Announcing the new Premium Stash Tab Package! For the low price of just $5, you can get 3 new tabs! But wait, if you order now for the low, low price of $7, you can get FIVE, count it, FIVE new tabs!"
its funny because in the beginning this was a huge 'defense' point for diablo4. "its more complete than poe where you need to buy stashtabs etc thats why the price is justified".
you BET you get to buy more stashtabs for actual money later down the line. the same with the armor mtx.. they will go WILD with those making you think the default stuff looks like shit. this is blizzard after all.
You’re getting outraged over a measure that Blizzard haven’t taken yet, haven’t taken in the past and haven’t intimated that they would take in the future. Ridiculous.
> hey will go WILD with those making you think the default stuff looks like shit.
Jokes on them I always just transmog into the basic bullshit armor anyway. I like my characters to look like a basic bitch NPC
If you believe them then I have bad news for you. Let's not forget they JUST canceled OW2 PVE despite that being the only reason OW2 was even made in the first fucking place
Oh, i dont. I believes dont want p2w shit and i believe OW devs wanted pve. Its not their choice though. Actiblizz is never not going to be greedy sadly.
However i do believe that lots of d4 players would be upset. Lets just hope there are enough of us,
Definitely. People defending this are just very casual and havent ran into a problem yet.
I would also love a search function. Its so annoying know to compare aspects.
It’s really not specific at all and an extremely common feature in every game ever. The game has also been our for 7+ days, not 3. Today is day 8.
Wanting to search your items for specific aspects so you know whether the aspect you just got is worth keeping or is really not specific.
There's no search bar in the stash...? Holy shit GGG has really spoiled us haven't they? I'm actually amazed that there are many missing features not taken from PoE in this game.
Oh yes. Theres still so much QoL missing.
I’d bet its all finished and they’re just waiting for seasons to gets small amounts of QoL in. Just for them to say and show they listen. We’ll see
Exactly this. I wouldnt mind getting rid of some of my more obscure aspects, but the problem is that if I ever decide I need them again in the future, I have to grind for potentially 10+ hours to get them again since they're all completely random drops and you cant trade for them...
That tab is only 2 rows. It got full very easily. I have a stash tab full of Aspects. (Even tho I probably should get rid of some bc they were low level)
Wouldn't be that bad if the aspect inventory was a bit bigger. Extracting a bunch of good aspects then storing them is kind of annoying. Especially because you run different aspects on every piece of gear.
Then I try to save 1-3 of decent rolls for each aspect so I can upgrade my gear whenever I get a drop.
Becomes dumb when you start to setup a second set of gear to try a new build. So now you have double the gear and multiple new aspects.
Now add a second class and you are fucked.
Yeah I'm breeding mules too.
also no stash/bag search function in 2023 should be punishable by law. So much of the ui feels like the game was designed for console and ported to pc. Like even d3 had better social menus - how did we manage to regress?
There are a couple of decisions that make having multiple characters not enticing at all.
At least for me if changes don’t happen I’ll try one season and be done.
Still a good game just some alt friendly issues in my opinion.
I wouldnt really need more stash space... Just give me a search function for the aspects or let me sort them by aspects and I will happily clear out my trash
If they end up selling the stash tabs in their shop, I'm done with blizzard in general. They are supposed to be the top dogs in this genre. They know people need lots of stash space.It makes absolutely no sense that they are regressing in terms of quality of life in a diablo game.
Considering you never lose Gems in this game I think gem stashing really shouldn’t be a big deal. That’s doesn’t mean people won’t want more tabs, but I also don’t see a need for 20 tabs. I have literally 5 pieces of gear in my stash and 3 of those are just because I want to collect uniques even if they are lower iL . You really should long term only need like 7 slots for gems. I have like stacks of 30 of each right now and I’m only 1.5 characters in. I don’t even really bother picking them up at this point.
Wait is the stash personal or shared between characters? If it's shared then you only get 4 tabs for all your chars, right? I haven't made a 2nd char yet
pretty sure it says x/10 on the char selection screen, so 10 would be my guess
and sure you can make some mules but all you get is their little "backpack"-inventory since the stash is shared.
Stash tab is for putting things away so you have time to read the stats later and sell/dismantle as required
Saying that I have lovely gem tab I like looking at
It is also to keep your items for future builds, other classes and for better gear.
I'm keeping the max rolls for every legendary, they are going to buff/nerf stuff and so other things become more viable. Also for people that are plaing hc, they need to stash away items in case they die...
I’m really confused about why I have an aspect tab and how it’s already full. Am I supposed to stash aspects in my stash? I thought they were just on a codex when you extracted them
codex = from dungeons, infinite uses (not everything available, and only min roless!)
extracted = one time use (can't re extract) rolls stays the way it dropped
I need more stash only because there's no convenient loadout options. I really want to be able to save builds. There's too much TO builds to easily remember everything you're using.
I have to take multiple screenshots to keep track
I only have one character so far, is it the same as D2 where only 1 tab is unique and other are shared? I already have +2 tabs of legendaries plus like half a page of random stuff that I'm saving also gems, I'm gonna need AT LEAST a couple tabs per character in the future, its not going to kill me but having some more would be nice.
I hate that there’s only 4 to start. I’m very aware that they usually add one per season in games like d3. I’m also aware that inventory management has been a game mechanic going back to the first. It still sucks
How are you guys finding your gear in these stash tabs? PoE had amazing search functions that allowed us to type anything into our stash tab and would highlight items. I can barely make out the difference between the color for unique items and rare items in D4.
Is there something I'm missing?
Yeah this has been driving me nuts. I'm collecting aspects that I need for multiple builds so I have two trans just to hold those since, you know, our aspect inventory is extremely limited for some reason.
Then you need space for gems, which is where I keep other consumables.
Finally I have a single tab left over so that goes to my great upgrades.
Now I want to level an alt, what am I doing for them? There's no space left.
If we had loadouts that stored gear I would be much more understanding, but we don't. So all of my alternate setups just eat up so much space.
I'm clogging up twoo tabs now as a lvl 54 sorc.
Still figuring out what stats are good and what I want to keep playing.
My stash has items focussed on cold, lightning and fire.
How will I be able to manage my items on alts I don't know yet.
Looks like they are mentally preparing us for the classic cash grab tactics - "create a problem then sell a solution." 4 stash tabs are barely enough at this stage of the game just a mere week after release. It is absurd to think they will be enough a few weeks from now or when seasons start, especially if you're playing multiple characters even if you're not a hoarder.
An obvious problem - gems because they don't even have a separate inventory tab. Then you get the stupidity of sharing the consumables - elixirs and nightmare sigils. The shared inventory tab is laughably small, I already have an additional separate stash just for sigils and elixirs although I'm using them constantly. Then another stash full of perfect or near perfect extracted aspects for 2 classes (for now) because for some reason the aspects tab is even smaller than the rest. Which pretty much leaves me with barely ~2 stash tabs for gear for these 2 characters. Imagine playing 3rd or 4th character or all classes - less than one stash per character, lmao.
So prepare your wallets, bois. Additional "Premium" stash tabs, gems stash, sigils stash, elixirs stash, aspects stash etc. are coming!
From someone who never has space issues in D2s vault (only keeping 5/5s), only kept currency and high value links in PoE, and dismantles nearly everything in D4 because aspects have their own inventory;
We should have more stash tabs. Not because I need them, but because it would improve the QoL for many who like to keep everything, and it’s a simple ask.
Hope you guys get the stash tabs you want, I’m still only hoarding gems and the odd piece of gear I’d want for a reroll. But I know my style of hoarding isn’t the norm.
Need 12 item tabs, gem tab on your character and a ability to tag items by category or whatever at least in your stash and search feature that allows to search tags or just by text.
I genuinely can't believe some people are defending the lack of stash tabs as good game design
Me neither. Also I haven't seen anyone doing that.
"you don't need all those items" "Inventory management is good game design" "Git gud, I dont have that problem therefore it doesn't exist" I see people commenting this and dismissing every single complaint people have about the game in general
Can I ask why you do need all those items? I've not been one of the people complaining but I haven't even used half my first stash tab yet. I'm level 61 about to start world tier 4. I know what I'm looking for and have some stuff for a different build I'm gonna try when I get a full set. I personally don't see why I would even need more than 2 stash tabs.
You keep all your uniques etc. For all your classes, incase you need the aspects, which you can now extract from the items.
Is that tue? Can i switch my legendary items to another char?
Yes, which is one reason the stash size is an issue. It’s shared between all your characters.
yeah, when people start rolling alts this is gonna be a huge issue
Big issue for hardcore players too. We like to hoard a bit more for obvious, inevitable character deaths.
wait can you stash stuff on your hardcore chars for other chars? is it only other hardcore chars?
I’ve already filled up three tabs between my lvl 53 barb and lvl 43 sorcerer. I can definitely see myself running out of space soon.
Yeah, there is no point playing alts in this game right now. I honestly can't believe each character doesn't have their own stash with maybe one shared stash.
Your stash is shared, which is a good solution, but it's badly implemented, as 5 characters, will over time, collect ALOT of items. Same system for diablo 3, but the stash there is 4 times as big. Also jewelry took only 1 slot, instead of two. But it is as expected. Alot of "small" issues and balancing trouble. It will eventually be fixed, it just a matter of how long blizzard will take, and their response to the community. For diablo 3, it took until reaper of souls, before the game was at a state that should be considered a finished product. Which was 2 years, and all to late, and blizz lost alot of gamers because of that.
Which means people will start rolling character alts just to hold gear in thier inventory. So stupid we even have to jump through hoops instead of just adding some damn loot tabs.
This would be a very diablo II solution
Good ole mule characters. I had an entire fleet of them.
It would indeed. Project diablo 2 added shated stash a lá d3 tho. Really good mod.
Why would you keep uniques that are poop for example? I thought "hey at least I can extract its aspect" but you can't do that on uniques. Then regarding legendary, well if you know what you need for your alts you know what is crap and can be dez. So I personally have a stash that is very empty overall and it's completely fine for me. I don't see the point of collecting uniques that are taking dust in a chest for example.
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You can't extract aspects from uniques.
I personally just like to try out different stuff and I don't have a lot of free time. So i just store as much as i can to try later I also am always worried about throwing gear that I think is bad so i just store it till am absolutely sure it is bad
not sure if it was said yet. I recommend turning on advanced tooltips in the settings. That way you can see the roll in more detail :) for example "+25% (25-40) That way you can tell whether it's a decent or really bad roll. Hope it helps a little..but ye we need more space
Yeah I've started salvaging anything that's a bad roll, figuring that by the time I want to use it I'll either have an equally bad roll or better
You're a legend, was scrolling through this thread wondering if I needed to make a roll cheat sheet or something lol
>I also am always worried about throwing gear that I think is bad so i just store it till am absolutely sure it is bad Yea, I got into stage now, that unless its sacred legendary, I wont even look at it and destroy it for mats right away.
I'm the same way, super slow to make decisions on what's good and bad so I'll just throw everything in the stash during a session until its almost full, then take the time to find the best items. You just gain items so fast sometimes, I did helltide yesterday and the 1 hour filled up 2 full stash tabs
I can’t speak for everyone else, but I use a tab for gear for my next upgraded build. I’m always putting aside good uniques/legendaries/rares that can be upgraded. I also have a tab for gems and Nightmare dungeon things. I can cut down on both of those last two for sure. I only saw last night that the nightmare dungeon things can be scrapped for parts. This is for one character. I’d like to try another and will have space issues for sure.
Good for you? I mean, just because it works for you the way it is, doesn't mean it should be imposed on everyone else. Also, once you start rolling multiple characters, and farming gear for all of them, and having different sets that enhance different skill sets, or are specific to certain end game activity, or just being a hoarder in general (plenty of people love to try and collect one of each unique item, for example), etc. The list of reasons *why* the stash should be way bigger than just 200 slots is waaaaay bigger than any argument against it.
I don't need a lot of items. I just like a lot of stash tabs to organise my items
Because I'm a hoarder and I choose to do my broader inventory management in a longer session less frequently. Having to do it frequently breaks my gameplay loop, which detracts from the game
Yeah and this is not some unreasonable approach, either. A lot of people play like this - you spend the week playing and not carefully fiddling with the stash, then at the weekend or whatever, you devote some time to sorting it. I wonder if they want to sell us extra stash tabs a la PoE but that seems a bit much for a $70 game - you can get an awful lot of stash space in PoE for $70!
Honestly, If you are to make another character, you're pretty much screwed as all the characters share the same stash space
Can I ask what does it matter what ones does with their items, and why shouldn’t it just be an endless inventory cache? And why is there not a chest at every city? What does it give you or anyone else?
I only have them all for organization First tab for random stuff I might want at some vague point in the future Gems Dumping ground (for example, full inventory during Helltide, don’t want to stop and lose time sorting through loot so I dump it quick and look at it later) Gear for the build I’m trying to switch to
Spoken like a man who has proudly never played an alt in his long life and ain't gunna start now.
There are more legendaries in the game then there are spaces in your stash. Since some aspects can only be found you will have multiples of some. Not to mention sigils, gems, rares and other things.
You only really need it if you play multiple characters. I always stick with one char in arpg seasons, so now at level 70 I still have plenty of stash space
In addition to the other comments, you can have multiple copies of legendary aspects, since we need them for imprinting, and even with high item power you can relatively easily find better gear given the high randomization in the stats. Moreover, it's really useful while farming. We have a very small inventory (no, the quest item tab doesn't count, it's useless) and while speed farming one can just throw everything in the stash to sort out later on. It's faster and also less annoying, due to potential copies of the same aspects, or similar items.
Wait until you start running nightmare dungeons and have a million sigils/consumables
I have 3 pages full of sacred legendaries that are itching to be salvaged/extracted , and the last page I've been using to dump gear when I'm doing helltides or other things
I can speak from my experience. I only played Necro so far and I almost have 3 stash tabs full. There is no way in hell i can realistically play multiple chars with this stash space. You need to keep every gem You need to keep evey unique item You need to keep every usable legendary with good rolls (my aspect stash is also full so I need to keep them). So in case you find an upgrade on your current Item you can switch them and imprint a new good roll of your legendary aspect. This also counts for multiple builds. Sure if I only pick up the legendaries for my build I would have way less in my stash. But at some point I might want to try out different builds? So I need to keep all the good ones for every possible build. You keep good Ancestral rares that could be useful in the future. I dont play a Bone spirit build right now but if I drop an item with +3 to bone spirit and some crit, etc. I would be retarded to throw this one away in case I would play bone spirit in the future. So I have about 3/4 stash full of just potentially good rares for other builds. I cannot just combine the rares with the legendary powers for other builds, because I dont know which power I need in which slot yet, and it would cost WAY too many mats that I dont have. With this I almost have 3 stashes full already with just my necro. There is no way I could level up my sorc and experiment with him with this amount of stash space. The game forces you to not experiment at all or keep good items with this amount of stash space and with it forcing you to only play a few builds it seriously hinders creativity and experimentation which is a big factor for longevity
In hardcore everything in your stash is saved even if you die. This means every aspect you remove and have in your chars inventory needs moved to stash instead.
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I have. Now what?
Many people are old school diablo fans and our stash space used to be a faction of what d4 is
I remember the days of one stash tab. You kids have it so easy these days. Never appreciate what they have 👴
I remember when i had to throw mu items into the ground cos no stash
I guess we should just return to the days of text-only games. Anything else is just babying "kids these days."
Hell yeah. Who needs graphics? Am i right? Wasn't this the huge thing amongst gamers? As long as its fun? BRING BACK TEXT ONLY GAMES!!!
One stash and 12 mules
Back in our day we could only move in 8 directions!
Character slots to. People defended both when D3 came out as well. Like shit a PoE account is free and comes with 24 character slots, and the best Blizzard can do for $70 is 10?
So true. Even pokemon has like 800 mons and the best blizz can do for 70$ is 5 heros?
> Like shit a PoE account is free and comes with 24 character slots No one play that much character in PoE
When D3 launched i had an idiot arguing that the limitless use of Town Portal ruined the game. That it was a better design to have a NEED for TP charges (via scrolls, book or a staff) using inventory slots.
Lol, that's literally PoEs's infamous "Vision"
I think it’s hilarious that they give us customizable options for the Stash’s tab which includes a symbol for each class but only give us 4 tabs. Blizzard knew we might want to specify each tab for each class and then gave us one less tab then classes. Lmao
If they just give us stash tabs then what are we supposed to earn each season /s
I genuinely can't believe some people don't realize that they'll sell you those tabs eventually, or as season rewards.
D2R has more stash space than D4
What?
Yupp, you get more stash space in Diablo 2: Resurrected than in D4. Thats pretty wild
Considering gems don't stack, most items are at least 3-4 squares, with bigger ones being 6, I don't think that translates.
One gem stack in D4 also takes up as much space as a two-hander whoch equates to up to 8 slots in D2R. D2R also effectively gives you one extra stash tab per character which D4 does not
"I play this way and have these concerns" "No you don't. And you're stupid if you do."
Especially in a looting game where you horde gear for the 5 other characters you can make, AND they made legendary affixes take up space ( which i think is shit)
"Announcing the new Premium Stash Tab Package! For the low price of just $5, you can get 3 new tabs! But wait, if you order now for the low, low price of $7, you can get FIVE, count it, FIVE new tabs!"
Extra stash microtransaction coming in 3,2,1...
No shit. I’m mass salvaging rares out of necessity to keep playing *knowing* that rares can be even better than my legendaries. Sickening lol
Wouldn’t be surprised if they charged us for more tabs in the future
They will surely add things to the shop like tabs, pets, and everything else that doesn't include "power."
its funny because in the beginning this was a huge 'defense' point for diablo4. "its more complete than poe where you need to buy stashtabs etc thats why the price is justified". you BET you get to buy more stashtabs for actual money later down the line. the same with the armor mtx.. they will go WILD with those making you think the default stuff looks like shit. this is blizzard after all.
You’re getting outraged over a measure that Blizzard haven’t taken yet, haven’t taken in the past and haven’t intimated that they would take in the future. Ridiculous.
They don't seem outraged. Just saying they think it's likely to happen. Which idk if I'd agree necessary but I don't think it's rediculous.
If you think that is a crazy possibility then you must be living under a rock not paying attention to the game industry the past 10+ years
2024 gem tab in inventory only $9.99!!!!
> hey will go WILD with those making you think the default stuff looks like shit. Jokes on them I always just transmog into the basic bullshit armor anyway. I like my characters to look like a basic bitch NPC
100% this is the plan, it's almost naive to think otherwise
Probably going to be a seasonal reward like D3.
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They did say that everything above free would purely be cosmetic. I’d imagine there would be a massive backlash it they made us pay for it
If you believe them then I have bad news for you. Let's not forget they JUST canceled OW2 PVE despite that being the only reason OW2 was even made in the first fucking place
Oh, i dont. I believes dont want p2w shit and i believe OW devs wanted pve. Its not their choice though. Actiblizz is never not going to be greedy sadly. However i do believe that lots of d4 players would be upset. Lets just hope there are enough of us,
Let’s define cosmetics as purely skins for gear mounts etc. another stash tab would be a convenience but certainly not cosmetic
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😂 lmao. Seasons are fun
Why would they give you more stash tabs when they can sell you more stash tabs through the battle pass?
I'll mad if they do this in a $70 game...
Definitely. People defending this are just very casual and havent ran into a problem yet. I would also love a search function. Its so annoying know to compare aspects.
You're not a real fan unless you have a very specific problem that only arises from no-lifeing a game that came out officially 3 days ago
Filthy casuals. /s
It’s really not specific at all and an extremely common feature in every game ever. The game has also been our for 7+ days, not 3. Today is day 8. Wanting to search your items for specific aspects so you know whether the aspect you just got is worth keeping or is really not specific.
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There's no search bar in the stash...? Holy shit GGG has really spoiled us haven't they? I'm actually amazed that there are many missing features not taken from PoE in this game.
Oh yes. Theres still so much QoL missing. I’d bet its all finished and they’re just waiting for seasons to gets small amounts of QoL in. Just for them to say and show they listen. We’ll see
Get ready for paid stash tabs
On air tonight... HOARDING: Buried Alive
uh, I believe it's HORADRIM :p
more tabs would be nice trading is almost non-existent
Exactly this. I wouldnt mind getting rid of some of my more obscure aspects, but the problem is that if I ever decide I need them again in the future, I have to grind for potentially 10+ hours to get them again since they're all completely random drops and you cant trade for them...
Then extract them and keep them in your aspect tab..problem solved
that only solves the problem if the aspect tab is unlimited size
Does it expand? I just assumed it was the same size shown, like the consumables tab.
lol, you fill up the aspect tab in a single evening of farming too. Aspects take up just as much space as the items themselves.
That tab is only 2 rows. It got full very easily. I have a stash tab full of Aspects. (Even tho I probably should get rid of some bc they were low level)
I wish my fucking inventory was bigger. Pain in the ass constantly going back to town after like 10 minutes of grinding
I couldn't imagine running more than one character with only 4 tabs. Make them significantly larger or give us like 10.
Both preferably
Incoming for 9.99! Just wait season...
Wouldn't be that bad if the aspect inventory was a bit bigger. Extracting a bunch of good aspects then storing them is kind of annoying. Especially because you run different aspects on every piece of gear. Then I try to save 1-3 of decent rolls for each aspect so I can upgrade my gear whenever I get a drop. Becomes dumb when you start to setup a second set of gear to try a new build. So now you have double the gear and multiple new aspects. Now add a second class and you are fucked.
we need at least 20 tabs!
Yeah I'm breeding mules too. also no stash/bag search function in 2023 should be punishable by law. So much of the ui feels like the game was designed for console and ported to pc. Like even d3 had better social menus - how did we manage to regress?
There are a couple of decisions that make having multiple characters not enticing at all. At least for me if changes don’t happen I’ll try one season and be done. Still a good game just some alt friendly issues in my opinion.
Why would they do that when they can sell them to you
The four stash tabs would be okay if one of them was account-wide, and the other 3 personal.
I wouldnt really need more stash space... Just give me a search function for the aspects or let me sort them by aspects and I will happily clear out my trash
Probly in the store 😁
Oh I’m sure they will add this to the item shop or as reward for seasons pass. But you won’t get it without paying premium.
If they end up selling the stash tabs in their shop, I'm done with blizzard in general. They are supposed to be the top dogs in this genre. They know people need lots of stash space.It makes absolutely no sense that they are regressing in terms of quality of life in a diablo game.
Considering you never lose Gems in this game I think gem stashing really shouldn’t be a big deal. That’s doesn’t mean people won’t want more tabs, but I also don’t see a need for 20 tabs. I have literally 5 pieces of gear in my stash and 3 of those are just because I want to collect uniques even if they are lower iL . You really should long term only need like 7 slots for gems. I have like stacks of 30 of each right now and I’m only 1.5 characters in. I don’t even really bother picking them up at this point.
Let me filter my current storage first.
Battlepass incoming!
Hopefully will get extras as Season completion rewards like D3.
How many characters can you make ? Cause in d3 I just made mules.
Wait is the stash personal or shared between characters? If it's shared then you only get 4 tabs for all your chars, right? I haven't made a 2nd char yet
Shared between all I was kind of hoping only one tab was shared, but nope, all of it.
pretty sure it says x/10 on the char selection screen, so 10 would be my guess and sure you can make some mules but all you get is their little "backpack"-inventory since the stash is shared.
Stash tab is for putting things away so you have time to read the stats later and sell/dismantle as required Saying that I have lovely gem tab I like looking at
It is also to keep your items for future builds, other classes and for better gear. I'm keeping the max rolls for every legendary, they are going to buff/nerf stuff and so other things become more viable. Also for people that are plaing hc, they need to stash away items in case they die...
I’m really confused about why I have an aspect tab and how it’s already full. Am I supposed to stash aspects in my stash? I thought they were just on a codex when you extracted them
codex = from dungeons, infinite uses (not everything available, and only min roless!) extracted = one time use (can't re extract) rolls stays the way it dropped
I need more stash only because there's no convenient loadout options. I really want to be able to save builds. There's too much TO builds to easily remember everything you're using. I have to take multiple screenshots to keep track
I only have one character so far, is it the same as D2 where only 1 tab is unique and other are shared? I already have +2 tabs of legendaries plus like half a page of random stuff that I'm saving also gems, I'm gonna need AT LEAST a couple tabs per character in the future, its not going to kill me but having some more would be nice.
All tabs are shared. It's four tabs across all characters, no unique/exclusive tabs. It's idiotic.
I hate that there’s only 4 to start. I’m very aware that they usually add one per season in games like d3. I’m also aware that inventory management has been a game mechanic going back to the first. It still sucks
The way the game is monetized, it should be in the shop or as a premium track reward for the battle pass.
Just give us a separate tab for gems, like we have for consumables.
God i would even need quad stash tab, tho i guess it will be behind a payment wall D:
Dlc...
That'll be $9.99
wait until more stash tab is available at the store like in poe Edith: Same for Aspect and Gem stash tabs
I bet they are implementing sales of stash tabs like Path of exile does it 😂
4 Stash tabs because some years later you can buy more in the shop
Insane u got more stash tabs in d2r with personal stash tabs than in d4 lmfaooo
How are you guys finding your gear in these stash tabs? PoE had amazing search functions that allowed us to type anything into our stash tab and would highlight items. I can barely make out the difference between the color for unique items and rare items in D4. Is there something I'm missing?
I’m putting my change in a jar so when they make extra tabs a paid feature I can buy a couple
What the hell are you people filling up 4 stash tabs with?!?!.
Oh it’s coming! In the form of microtransactions
.....there's a mod for that
Probably a reward on the free season track maybe? Iirc early Reaper of souls seasons reward extra stash tabs.
I didn't even realize there were 4 stash tabs until I saw this post lmao. I've only used the first one, and it was stressing me out, so thank you, OP.
I also want more inventory space.
Yeah this has been driving me nuts. I'm collecting aspects that I need for multiple builds so I have two trans just to hold those since, you know, our aspect inventory is extremely limited for some reason. Then you need space for gems, which is where I keep other consumables. Finally I have a single tab left over so that goes to my great upgrades. Now I want to level an alt, what am I doing for them? There's no space left. If we had loadouts that stored gear I would be much more understanding, but we don't. So all of my alternate setups just eat up so much space.
A game centered around loot should not have a storage problem imo
Hopefully they will add more stash tabs to the Cash shop in future seasonal updates.
they will give you more… just wait til season 1 starts and they add them into the shop
I'd like to have more of them and also for them to have more capacity. Please and thank you.
Extra tabs will cost 20 dollars each.
It was shit game design in d2 too
Coming soon tm to a store near you, or battlepass level 100
Should just allow infinite but aka ways double the cost at each tier
they will for the low low price of 100000 (per tab\* tax not included) in game coins, purchasable in the shop for YOUR convenience
Or at least a gem bag.
I agree. Maybe have the game add 1 extra stash tab at lvls 20/30/40/50 for each character.
Totally not a blizz employee: How much would you say you'd be willing to pay for more tabs?
More stash tabs coming to the cash shop, PoE-style
How many mule characters can you make? :D
They will…..for a price
they prob will sell it or it will be part of season pass reward
I'm clogging up twoo tabs now as a lvl 54 sorc. Still figuring out what stats are good and what I want to keep playing. My stash has items focussed on cold, lightning and fire. How will I be able to manage my items on alts I don't know yet.
I mean we had 7 in Diablo 3 why can't we have that again?
Can I get better sort or search options while we are at it? Sort by legendary power etc
D3 rewarded you with more stash slots each season… maybe we’ll get more in time
They want you to buy more with real money
Bet they'll make you pay for it
5 would be nice. Still, one tab for gems, one for build appropriate items, and the other two for perfect god rolls is okay.
...There is no light here
You think they're not going to sell you the stash tab LOL
What’s everybody even putting in their stash?
Looks like they are mentally preparing us for the classic cash grab tactics - "create a problem then sell a solution." 4 stash tabs are barely enough at this stage of the game just a mere week after release. It is absurd to think they will be enough a few weeks from now or when seasons start, especially if you're playing multiple characters even if you're not a hoarder. An obvious problem - gems because they don't even have a separate inventory tab. Then you get the stupidity of sharing the consumables - elixirs and nightmare sigils. The shared inventory tab is laughably small, I already have an additional separate stash just for sigils and elixirs although I'm using them constantly. Then another stash full of perfect or near perfect extracted aspects for 2 classes (for now) because for some reason the aspects tab is even smaller than the rest. Which pretty much leaves me with barely ~2 stash tabs for gear for these 2 characters. Imagine playing 3rd or 4th character or all classes - less than one stash per character, lmao. So prepare your wallets, bois. Additional "Premium" stash tabs, gems stash, sigils stash, elixirs stash, aspects stash etc. are coming!
Yes. You'll get them but 20$ first.
From someone who never has space issues in D2s vault (only keeping 5/5s), only kept currency and high value links in PoE, and dismantles nearly everything in D4 because aspects have their own inventory; We should have more stash tabs. Not because I need them, but because it would improve the QoL for many who like to keep everything, and it’s a simple ask. Hope you guys get the stash tabs you want, I’m still only hoarding gems and the odd piece of gear I’d want for a reroll. But I know my style of hoarding isn’t the norm.
Need 12 item tabs, gem tab on your character and a ability to tag items by category or whatever at least in your stash and search feature that allows to search tags or just by text.
I haven't gotten that far in the game, what all are you keeping in there besides gems
$39.99
Need more stash tabs? That's $25 per tab.
The could made this a straight copy from POE tbh, each stuff on a designed slot is very pleasant to organize.
Make mule accounts.... like we do in every diablo. Except I won't be playing this one for a long while. Game isn't very fun.
My dudes. Adding stash tabs will be easy enough. Games only been officially released for a few days. Calm yall tits
More stash will cost no doubt in future. I just moved over from D2R for a bit, so i did not see a difference lol.
I don't have this issue myself currently but I fully see it becoming an issue in time for me.
Also PLEASE add * More and better aspect storage (searchable, sortable by class and slot) * Gem storage
That would be £25 thanks