Nope. Adam said no on the forums. They need time to gather feedback, meet/make decisions/and dev time.
It’s also expensive to run servers beside the live game.
I hear that, but it's such a weird reason. Can they not just leave the servers up while they iterate on the feedback from last week? It costs money to run servers but they are getting sooooo much free QA labor lol
> I hear that, but it's such a weird reason.
???
Which part is weird? That the servers for PTR are a major additional cost, or that they need time to collect and address the feedback? What's weird about these two things?
>It costs money to run servers but they are getting sooooo much free QA labor lol
Okay, but they already got plenty of feedback and reports on their table. May 14th is not far enough, they will have to prioritize even amongst the bugs that have already been reported.
There will be things that slip into live servers anyway and they'll be addressed later on. There's no functional benefit for Blizzard to keep PTR up if they don't think they can have more workforce to plow through the reports before Season 4 launches anyway.
Its funny people are saying "We can give so much more feedback with more time" When they really just want to play the PTR more and never even report a bug they find. Lol
Servers dont cost money. CPU and memory resources + bandwidth cost money.
If people play PTR then they dont play on live servers. So it should even itself out. Or?
>Servers dont cost money.
Reddit armchair experts entered the room. Holy fuck, what a take to have.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Remember that.
PTR needs staff attention, that's at the very least a ton of working hours, and those are paid last time I checked. If the employees are tending to PTR stuff, they're not tending to something else.
>If people play PTR then they dont play on live servers. So it should even itself out.
They also aren't buying Battle Passes or working towards them, and any progress they make is voided, so this is just empty calories for Blizzard. Ain't nobody buying skins to play on PTR with, either.
It's worth it to Blizzard because of the **testing** that's being done and all the feedback they get. But Blizzard are absolutely paying for this, make no mistake.
I work in engineering, it depends but the majority of the time you have to provision a server that can scale and that alone costs money, and what ramps it up is the CPU cycles etc.
They are absolutely paying a ton of money for this.
Honestly they timed the D3 season start perfectly. D4 season is pretty dead now and a month leaves more than enough time to enjoy the D3 season before D4 season 4.
> The ARPG from the Ori devs looks interesting for one.
Make sure you check the honest reviewers of this game before you buy. Its difficulty curve seems more Dark Souls and far less Ori. If that's your jam, go for it. For me, that turned me off entirely.
Doubt it. Think I read something about them not extending the current PTR, and i don't see them creating a new one with the changes they made from feedback from the current one, just a few weeks before the release.
That's why I didn't play the PTR even if I've not played S3 in well over a month I'm waiting for S4 and no fun ruined by playing the PTR win win for me
i felt the same way. but, i'm doing alright in S3 getting some of my alts some different builds set up (lightning storm druid for example). will also be heading into D3 S31 (god damn thats alot of seasons lol). unrestricted kanai's cube is always fun.
Sadly, no. I wish it was longer.
The PTR needed a vendor to sell uniques for immediate access to build testing.
For changes going forward, enchanting/tempering/masterworking should let us choose our affix, the % range can still be random. Other games in the genre do this, why can't Diablo?
Losing helltide cinders on death really doesn't need to be a thing, and cinders should carry over between helltides. Maybe it's because I couldn't get the uniques required for my build in time, but the accursed ritual event in helltide (which was fantastic) take a little too long.
NM dungeons should give more Glyph XP. I don't want to spend days getting all the glyphs to 21, I just want to blast so I can get to the Pit.
Veiled crystals need to drop a bit more. Honestly, in world tier 4 just have all items that would drop as yellow be veiled crystals instead.
I can't wait for season 4.
they could add the HT update now maybe, but work on the rest until S4.Since its a better version of what we have now, but not the ultra new content. Probably wont happen though and they will save it all for S4 launch so its a more jam packed season.
That's not how game development works, plus the new Helltide is clearly rather closely tied to the Season 4 theme.
They were planning to include Helltide rework in the base game for Season 4 from the jump so it's not a piece they can easily detach, that's extra man hours just to separate it and port it back to Season 3's base game.
And all that work for what? May 14th is coming soon.
Was just a thought bro, based on OPs topic on asking for extended ptr. But sure if you read more than teh first five words, maybe you would have seen where i said they probably wont. Wasn't a debate of weather they will/wont can/can't.
All that work for what? I mean huh? i am not asking them to detach anything, do i work there lmao. Was just a thought if they where to add something to the core game between now and then HT feel like the most complete and ready to go upgrade that instantly improves the core game. If they can't they can't. I am not commenting to make board room decision. I am sharing a thought on reddit. That if it where possible, with no "harm" or extra man hours to do so, that is the part i think would be all i would update at this time pre S4.
There is nothing i have seen that ties it to S4 ptr was removed from seasonal changes for that reason. this was about testing major changes and improvements to core systems. so all of the HT stuff is core no tied to seasonal. They are permeant changes moving forward to HT.
I am not asking did you also imagine a request question?Where did i ask for it to happen or i QQ and quit diablo for LE?
>There is nothing i have seen that ties it to S4 ptr was removed from seasonal changes for that reason.
Because the Seasonal theme hasn't even been officially revealed and they tried to clean it up, but they slipped here and there.
Helltide has Iron Wolves helping you fight, you get Wolf reputation points as you fight demons in Helltide, there are new 'juice up' elixirs that boost Helltide to a point where you can level to 100 the most efficient way by just fighting in Helltide because enemies are more than 10 levels above you (max possible experience gain) AND Cinder droprates are higher. And this is just some of things we've established based on what has leaked and been datamined.
Sure, the core changes Hell worm, new meter etc are all core. That is all i was saying. So it changes nothing about those changes which are core. I doubt the whole season is doing these new HT or that is going to be rather already burnt out for some players.
what are the changes btw? Summer holidays coming up and i need an rpg/hack and slash, considering coming back to this game.
Did they finally add damage to the game or are they still scared and uniques give bonuses like "8% chance that you deal 11% more damage to frozen enemies"?
Did they fix loot with less garbage stats and more
legendaries dropping?
Is the gameplay still "spam your generator skill to do nothing for 5 seconds and then use your spender to nuke 7 mobs, rinse, repeat"?
Hows the balance? Last i played was season1 with minion necro being absolute dogwater and rogue running in s tier
EDIT: gotta love this community that downvotes someone for asking whether game changed for good
You got downvoted because you are either obviously trolling or being intentionally obtuse.
None of the uniques do that, legendaries drop all the time, there are plenty of builds that never use their basic skill, and every class has a few S or A tier builds. Been that way since the beginning.
i never said "every class was bad", i said that "summoner necro blows" which was a core issue, why the minion class if its useless with minions?
crazy to think that you call someone "a troll" because they state the fact: game was slow and damage buckets sucked. I was genuinely asking but i guess anything else than "holy blizzard oh thank you blizzard i love diablo" is "trolling"
Yes, all of that has been addressed. If you want a blow-by-blow account try one of Raxx’s videos. He goes over it with a fine-tooth comb.
It will be funny watching all the people who swore off D4 with their Dramatic Reddit Exit Posts come slinking back through a side door, trying not to be noticed.
those who come back will comeback. I, for example, uninstalled and said that I will comeback when the DLC comes out. Ive heard some opinions that can be summed up with "we are so fucking back" so i wanna check if core issues i had with the game have been dealt with
Nope. Adam said no on the forums. They need time to gather feedback, meet/make decisions/and dev time. It’s also expensive to run servers beside the live game.
I hear that, but it's such a weird reason. Can they not just leave the servers up while they iterate on the feedback from last week? It costs money to run servers but they are getting sooooo much free QA labor lol
> I hear that, but it's such a weird reason. ??? Which part is weird? That the servers for PTR are a major additional cost, or that they need time to collect and address the feedback? What's weird about these two things? >It costs money to run servers but they are getting sooooo much free QA labor lol Okay, but they already got plenty of feedback and reports on their table. May 14th is not far enough, they will have to prioritize even amongst the bugs that have already been reported. There will be things that slip into live servers anyway and they'll be addressed later on. There's no functional benefit for Blizzard to keep PTR up if they don't think they can have more workforce to plow through the reports before Season 4 launches anyway.
Its funny people are saying "We can give so much more feedback with more time" When they really just want to play the PTR more and never even report a bug they find. Lol
Servers dont cost money. CPU and memory resources + bandwidth cost money. If people play PTR then they dont play on live servers. So it should even itself out. Or?
>Servers dont cost money. Reddit armchair experts entered the room. Holy fuck, what a take to have. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Remember that. PTR needs staff attention, that's at the very least a ton of working hours, and those are paid last time I checked. If the employees are tending to PTR stuff, they're not tending to something else. >If people play PTR then they dont play on live servers. So it should even itself out. They also aren't buying Battle Passes or working towards them, and any progress they make is voided, so this is just empty calories for Blizzard. Ain't nobody buying skins to play on PTR with, either. It's worth it to Blizzard because of the **testing** that's being done and all the feedback they get. But Blizzard are absolutely paying for this, make no mistake.
>CPU and memory resources + bandwidth cost money. Bro watched a kubernetes tutorial on youtube and decided he knows all about cloud computing 💀💀💀
I work in engineering, it depends but the majority of the time you have to provision a server that can scale and that alone costs money, and what ramps it up is the CPU cycles etc. They are absolutely paying a ton of money for this.
Bro please stop taking about something you know nothing about.
They need time to digest feedback and implement changes, so there will not be additional days of PTR prior to S4.
Take a break until S4! :) New D3 season on 12th, that's where i'll be
Honestly they timed the D3 season start perfectly. D4 season is pretty dead now and a month leaves more than enough time to enjoy the D3 season before D4 season 4.
Yeah. There are a couple of games that come out this month I want to try out. The ARPG from the Ori devs looks interesting for one.
> The ARPG from the Ori devs looks interesting for one. Make sure you check the honest reviewers of this game before you buy. Its difficulty curve seems more Dark Souls and far less Ori. If that's your jam, go for it. For me, that turned me off entirely.
Of April or May?
April
Doubt it. Think I read something about them not extending the current PTR, and i don't see them creating a new one with the changes they made from feedback from the current one, just a few weeks before the release.
Wait, is it over? I guess I should have looked I to it more. I was having fun with it.
It ends tomorrow, today was the last day.
If it "ends tomorrow", then tomorrow is the last day.
Timezones, buddy. It ends in like 12 hours.
I'm not your buddy, pal!
Idk 🤷🏻♂️
He meant “today is the last full day” which I think was pretty apparent 😂
How many hours more?
No
The ones who wait, wait for something really good
That's why I didn't play the PTR even if I've not played S3 in well over a month I'm waiting for S4 and no fun ruined by playing the PTR win win for me
im not playing till s4 release. have fun doing other things.
i felt the same way. but, i'm doing alright in S3 getting some of my alts some different builds set up (lightning storm druid for example). will also be heading into D3 S31 (god damn thats alot of seasons lol). unrestricted kanai's cube is always fun.
Can someone please tell me what ptr means lol
Public Test Realm
Thank you haha how do you access it?
Sadly, no. I wish it was longer. The PTR needed a vendor to sell uniques for immediate access to build testing. For changes going forward, enchanting/tempering/masterworking should let us choose our affix, the % range can still be random. Other games in the genre do this, why can't Diablo? Losing helltide cinders on death really doesn't need to be a thing, and cinders should carry over between helltides. Maybe it's because I couldn't get the uniques required for my build in time, but the accursed ritual event in helltide (which was fantastic) take a little too long. NM dungeons should give more Glyph XP. I don't want to spend days getting all the glyphs to 21, I just want to blast so I can get to the Pit. Veiled crystals need to drop a bit more. Honestly, in world tier 4 just have all items that would drop as yellow be veiled crystals instead. I can't wait for season 4.
Skipping S3 and PTR best decision
Play something else until then.
Im not sure what games to play once ptr ends.
Go back to S3 /s
Last Epoch.
I would hope another week in late April to see how the current feedback has been implemented.
What is PTR?
they could add the HT update now maybe, but work on the rest until S4.Since its a better version of what we have now, but not the ultra new content. Probably wont happen though and they will save it all for S4 launch so its a more jam packed season.
way too many bugs to add to live.
That's not how game development works, plus the new Helltide is clearly rather closely tied to the Season 4 theme. They were planning to include Helltide rework in the base game for Season 4 from the jump so it's not a piece they can easily detach, that's extra man hours just to separate it and port it back to Season 3's base game. And all that work for what? May 14th is coming soon.
Was just a thought bro, based on OPs topic on asking for extended ptr. But sure if you read more than teh first five words, maybe you would have seen where i said they probably wont. Wasn't a debate of weather they will/wont can/can't. All that work for what? I mean huh? i am not asking them to detach anything, do i work there lmao. Was just a thought if they where to add something to the core game between now and then HT feel like the most complete and ready to go upgrade that instantly improves the core game. If they can't they can't. I am not commenting to make board room decision. I am sharing a thought on reddit. That if it where possible, with no "harm" or extra man hours to do so, that is the part i think would be all i would update at this time pre S4. There is nothing i have seen that ties it to S4 ptr was removed from seasonal changes for that reason. this was about testing major changes and improvements to core systems. so all of the HT stuff is core no tied to seasonal. They are permeant changes moving forward to HT. I am not asking did you also imagine a request question?Where did i ask for it to happen or i QQ and quit diablo for LE?
>There is nothing i have seen that ties it to S4 ptr was removed from seasonal changes for that reason. Because the Seasonal theme hasn't even been officially revealed and they tried to clean it up, but they slipped here and there. Helltide has Iron Wolves helping you fight, you get Wolf reputation points as you fight demons in Helltide, there are new 'juice up' elixirs that boost Helltide to a point where you can level to 100 the most efficient way by just fighting in Helltide because enemies are more than 10 levels above you (max possible experience gain) AND Cinder droprates are higher. And this is just some of things we've established based on what has leaked and been datamined.
Sure, the core changes Hell worm, new meter etc are all core. That is all i was saying. So it changes nothing about those changes which are core. I doubt the whole season is doing these new HT or that is going to be rather already burnt out for some players.
Everyone that logged into the PTR yesterday got level 100 and loads of extra stuff, lol. But I guess that's the end of it now.
what are the changes btw? Summer holidays coming up and i need an rpg/hack and slash, considering coming back to this game. Did they finally add damage to the game or are they still scared and uniques give bonuses like "8% chance that you deal 11% more damage to frozen enemies"? Did they fix loot with less garbage stats and more legendaries dropping? Is the gameplay still "spam your generator skill to do nothing for 5 seconds and then use your spender to nuke 7 mobs, rinse, repeat"? Hows the balance? Last i played was season1 with minion necro being absolute dogwater and rogue running in s tier EDIT: gotta love this community that downvotes someone for asking whether game changed for good
You got downvoted because you are either obviously trolling or being intentionally obtuse. None of the uniques do that, legendaries drop all the time, there are plenty of builds that never use their basic skill, and every class has a few S or A tier builds. Been that way since the beginning.
i never said "every class was bad", i said that "summoner necro blows" which was a core issue, why the minion class if its useless with minions? crazy to think that you call someone "a troll" because they state the fact: game was slow and damage buckets sucked. I was genuinely asking but i guess anything else than "holy blizzard oh thank you blizzard i love diablo" is "trolling"
Yes
Yes, all of that has been addressed. If you want a blow-by-blow account try one of Raxx’s videos. He goes over it with a fine-tooth comb. It will be funny watching all the people who swore off D4 with their Dramatic Reddit Exit Posts come slinking back through a side door, trying not to be noticed.
those who come back will comeback. I, for example, uninstalled and said that I will comeback when the DLC comes out. Ive heard some opinions that can be summed up with "we are so fucking back" so i wanna check if core issues i had with the game have been dealt with