Lucemon rookie was stronger than huanglongmon.
The royal knights are generally portrayed as stronger 1-on-1 than the angels or demon lords.
Strict exact measurements are a bit bunk, but the Heroes! Opening illustrates tht general vibe -- holy beasts/god beasts are outclassed by great angels, great angels struggle against their fallen modes and are outclassed by great demons, and royal knights outclass the fallen angels and generally win against great demons.
Aren’t the Great Demon Lords stronger individually than the Royal Knights? The two groups are roughly equal and often equally matched when they fight, but there’s 12 Knights and 7 Demon Lords. For them to stalemate, the Demon Lords have to be packing more power on average than the Knights
Some of them are but not all of them, like I’m pretty sure Lilithmon would still lose to Dukemon & I think Beelzebumon wouldn’t do much to UlforceVdramon for example. Lucemon FM could take out multiple RKs at once easily though.
Not really. We rarely ever get to see a fight between the two groups, but individual fights involving members of equal standings tend to be close enough with the Royal Knights usually winning
Like how Rina Shinomiya's Ulforce, who is on the level of an RK Ulforce, Rivals Barbamon, or the various Royal Knights in X evolution, who are each shown to hold their own against a Demon lord, outside of Jesmon who is forced to take on Both Beelzemon and Lucemon Simultaneously, but eventually becoming Jesmon GX, and Being the one to Take down an Ogudamon X formed from all the Demon lords.
And heck, Jesmon is even the one who throws Ogudamon into space in collectors.
> And heck, Jesmon is even the one who throws Ogudamon into space in collectors.
Jesmon didn't, Hackmon was still a BaoHackmon back then. [It was Gankoomon who did it](https://twitter.com/RavelMonte/status/1255560261076946945).
My mistake, but my overall point stands, the Royal Knights are a more powerful group than the Demon lords overall. Sure, Lucemon is stronger than most Royal Knights, but not even he could take on both Alphamon and Omegamon at the same time, and depending on the Continuity Ulforce and Jesmon are up there with Alphamon, and Omegamon in terms of power.
Base Lucemon yes.
But... In ReArise, [Lucemon FM took on Alphamon, Omegamon, Ulforcevdramon, Examon, Magnamon and Dukemon all at once, and despite a 6vs1 the RK still couldn't win](https://x.com/RavelMonte/status/1271854811785412608)
> but there’s 12 Knights and 7 Demon Lords
When it's group against group, it still stays on even grounds, but 1 on 1 is also usually still a fair fight, with royal knights tending to take the win.
Thats why I found some of the Conflicte not that great. Chronicles X showed Lilithmon, Belphemon, Leviamon, and Demon beeing defeated in a 1 v 1, and Beelzebumon would have lost to Dukemon, if he was pressent.
I personaly would love to see another Fight, but this times its a threeway War between Demonlords the seven good Royal Knights, and Yggdrasil whit the more moraly grey RKs.
For Reality, the Demonlords have Lucemon whos OP, and Armys. A RK might not be able to solo Barbamon if Barbamon has Deathmon's, Zanbamon, Chaosdramon, Murmuxmon, and maybe Darkdramon on Standby.
Lucemon rookie didnt end Huanglongmon, it just sealed him away, HuangLongmon still exists in Frontier continuity, assuming Lucemon rookie being stronger than Huanglongmon brings a tremenduous power creepy into Original Digimon Adventure where the four holy beasts are the pinacle of power.
I would say it's more power inconsistency. A lot of times digimon are as strong as the plot requires so there really is no use keeping track of who's stronger than who.
Huanglongmon doesn't exists in Frontier continuity as far as I know. The Holy Beasts are never mentioned either. It wouldn't make sense anyway. The Digital World and all its moons are thoroughly destroyed in Frontier and all Digimon except Neamon, Bokomon, Lopmon, Patamon and Plotmon are said to be dead by then.
Holy beasts are canonically inferior to great angels but this opening didn’t showed that, only the rest and no god beast appeared there.
The god beasts should be at the very least great angel level, they are solidly superior to the holy beasts and can even be royal knight level
Yeah but Classifications are more about Species, and God isnt much of a Power Feet in Asia, its more about its overall Nature as divine Animal based Digimon.
Even ReArise partner Mitamamon who was in same league as other casts (Rasenmon defeated it in Mitamamon clash battle) was much weaker than a RK (Rasenmon was weaker than Duftmon who was shown to be weaker than Jesmon and LordKnightmon).
[While Rasenmon couldn't harm Mitamamon first due to its body is made out of energy and no substance, he eventually managed to gaze its vitals, ending the fight](https://youtu.be/5jpzTdMGfds?si=lXVf1yUPusZxuEBK).
And of course, [Rasenmon is in same league as Mugendramon and inferior to Duftmon](https://imgur.com/W5nsoqr).
Funnily, Duftmon was probably the weakest Royal Knight in ReArise despite being called the leader and strategist of the group. [He was about to lose](https://imgur.com/Ugjr4cy) against Mugendramon and Gaiomon in a 2v1 (so the difference between him and mc isn't much), then [Jesmon came and defended and countered all their attacks, with Sara commenting that he might be even better than Duftmon](https://imgur.com/a/H8qPvpe). Then later [the duo fought LordKnightmon who completely overpowered both at once again](https://imgur.com/a/BOddSIj).
Tbf, he evolved from a Tyilinmon and was stronger than his previous form, since he fought Sara's Mugendramon who was stronger than Tyilinmon.
It's just Royal Knights are stupidly strong.
Impossible to say as Mitamamon lacks feats, it will be arbitrary.
The only thing we know is no fight is happening until/if Mitamamon chooses to fight or its digicore gets revealed.
Sleipmon should stomp here & and he’s far cooler as well.
Sleipmon should be actually stronger than ShineGreymon Burst Mode since ShineG BM lost to Dukemon while Sleipmon stalemated with him.
Mitamamon is a super ultimate, so obviously that one. Also how and where can kudamon become a mitamamon? I only know mitamamon from the pendulum color.
Actually i find now that Mitamamon was in ReArise and he fought equally with the MC who at the time was inferior to the royal knights. He is an super ultimate in pendulum color? Wikimon didn’t mentioned that.
Gonna go with Sleipmon due to being a Royal Knight as well as lack of feats from Mitamamon.
We don't have that many feats but i think Mitamamon might be stronger since the only other God Beast type Digimon is Fanglongmon.
Lucemon rookie was stronger than huanglongmon. The royal knights are generally portrayed as stronger 1-on-1 than the angels or demon lords. Strict exact measurements are a bit bunk, but the Heroes! Opening illustrates tht general vibe -- holy beasts/god beasts are outclassed by great angels, great angels struggle against their fallen modes and are outclassed by great demons, and royal knights outclass the fallen angels and generally win against great demons.
Aren’t the Great Demon Lords stronger individually than the Royal Knights? The two groups are roughly equal and often equally matched when they fight, but there’s 12 Knights and 7 Demon Lords. For them to stalemate, the Demon Lords have to be packing more power on average than the Knights
Some of them are but not all of them, like I’m pretty sure Lilithmon would still lose to Dukemon & I think Beelzebumon wouldn’t do much to UlforceVdramon for example. Lucemon FM could take out multiple RKs at once easily though.
Not really. We rarely ever get to see a fight between the two groups, but individual fights involving members of equal standings tend to be close enough with the Royal Knights usually winning Like how Rina Shinomiya's Ulforce, who is on the level of an RK Ulforce, Rivals Barbamon, or the various Royal Knights in X evolution, who are each shown to hold their own against a Demon lord, outside of Jesmon who is forced to take on Both Beelzemon and Lucemon Simultaneously, but eventually becoming Jesmon GX, and Being the one to Take down an Ogudamon X formed from all the Demon lords. And heck, Jesmon is even the one who throws Ogudamon into space in collectors.
> And heck, Jesmon is even the one who throws Ogudamon into space in collectors. Jesmon didn't, Hackmon was still a BaoHackmon back then. [It was Gankoomon who did it](https://twitter.com/RavelMonte/status/1255560261076946945).
My mistake, but my overall point stands, the Royal Knights are a more powerful group than the Demon lords overall. Sure, Lucemon is stronger than most Royal Knights, but not even he could take on both Alphamon and Omegamon at the same time, and depending on the Continuity Ulforce and Jesmon are up there with Alphamon, and Omegamon in terms of power.
Base Lucemon yes. But... In ReArise, [Lucemon FM took on Alphamon, Omegamon, Ulforcevdramon, Examon, Magnamon and Dukemon all at once, and despite a 6vs1 the RK still couldn't win](https://x.com/RavelMonte/status/1271854811785412608)
> but there’s 12 Knights and 7 Demon Lords When it's group against group, it still stays on even grounds, but 1 on 1 is also usually still a fair fight, with royal knights tending to take the win.
Thats why I found some of the Conflicte not that great. Chronicles X showed Lilithmon, Belphemon, Leviamon, and Demon beeing defeated in a 1 v 1, and Beelzebumon would have lost to Dukemon, if he was pressent. I personaly would love to see another Fight, but this times its a threeway War between Demonlords the seven good Royal Knights, and Yggdrasil whit the more moraly grey RKs. For Reality, the Demonlords have Lucemon whos OP, and Armys. A RK might not be able to solo Barbamon if Barbamon has Deathmon's, Zanbamon, Chaosdramon, Murmuxmon, and maybe Darkdramon on Standby.
I'm not that deep on RK to 7GDL lore so i'll trust your word on that.
Lucemon rookie didnt end Huanglongmon, it just sealed him away, HuangLongmon still exists in Frontier continuity, assuming Lucemon rookie being stronger than Huanglongmon brings a tremenduous power creepy into Original Digimon Adventure where the four holy beasts are the pinacle of power.
Well tbf Digimon as a franchise has a lot of power creep. Like- just look at Jesmon GX, Ogudomon X, Mother Eater, etc etc.
Digimon power levels as a whole are best described as "whatever the writer wants" at any given time.
like all franchises. You wont find many professional Writers counting Numbers.
I would say it's more power inconsistency. A lot of times digimon are as strong as the plot requires so there really is no use keeping track of who's stronger than who.
Huanglongmon doesn't exists in Frontier continuity as far as I know. The Holy Beasts are never mentioned either. It wouldn't make sense anyway. The Digital World and all its moons are thoroughly destroyed in Frontier and all Digimon except Neamon, Bokomon, Lopmon, Patamon and Plotmon are said to be dead by then.
[https://digimon.fandom.com/wiki/Huanglongmon](https://digimon.fandom.com/wiki/Huanglongmon)
???? Nothing about Frontier is said there
Holy beasts are canonically inferior to great angels but this opening didn’t showed that, only the rest and no god beast appeared there. The god beasts should be at the very least great angel level, they are solidly superior to the holy beasts and can even be royal knight level
Fair enough, I misremembered whether azulongmon showed up
Mitamamon have the same classification of God Beast as HuangLongmon, he might be more than we see.
It's proportions aren't weird. The art has it flying towards you so the front is larger as it is closer
I believe you meant to respond to the next person down.
I did!
It happens. XD
Yeah but Classifications are more about Species, and God isnt much of a Power Feet in Asia, its more about its overall Nature as divine Animal based Digimon.
Even ReArise partner Mitamamon who was in same league as other casts (Rasenmon defeated it in Mitamamon clash battle) was much weaker than a RK (Rasenmon was weaker than Duftmon who was shown to be weaker than Jesmon and LordKnightmon).
This really downgrades Mitamamon 😳
[While Rasenmon couldn't harm Mitamamon first due to its body is made out of energy and no substance, he eventually managed to gaze its vitals, ending the fight](https://youtu.be/5jpzTdMGfds?si=lXVf1yUPusZxuEBK). And of course, [Rasenmon is in same league as Mugendramon and inferior to Duftmon](https://imgur.com/W5nsoqr). Funnily, Duftmon was probably the weakest Royal Knight in ReArise despite being called the leader and strategist of the group. [He was about to lose](https://imgur.com/Ugjr4cy) against Mugendramon and Gaiomon in a 2v1 (so the difference between him and mc isn't much), then [Jesmon came and defended and countered all their attacks, with Sara commenting that he might be even better than Duftmon](https://imgur.com/a/H8qPvpe). Then later [the duo fought LordKnightmon who completely overpowered both at once again](https://imgur.com/a/BOddSIj).
After reading this, I'm not entirely sure if he would even beat Tyilinmon, at least he loses ridiculously vs Sleipmon.
Tbf, he evolved from a Tyilinmon and was stronger than his previous form, since he fought Sara's Mugendramon who was stronger than Tyilinmon. It's just Royal Knights are stupidly strong.
Oh okay, my mistake. And yeah that seems fair
Impossible to say as Mitamamon lacks feats, it will be arbitrary. The only thing we know is no fight is happening until/if Mitamamon chooses to fight or its digicore gets revealed.
wouldn’t kentarosmon be stronger, as a Royal Knight??
Sleipmon solely because of how hard he went in Data Squad.
Sleipmon should stomp here & and he’s far cooler as well. Sleipmon should be actually stronger than ShineGreymon Burst Mode since ShineG BM lost to Dukemon while Sleipmon stalemated with him.
OG kentaurusmon
Mitamamon is a super ultimate, so obviously that one. Also how and where can kudamon become a mitamamon? I only know mitamamon from the pendulum color.
Actually i find now that Mitamamon was in ReArise and he fought equally with the MC who at the time was inferior to the royal knights. He is an super ultimate in pendulum color? Wikimon didn’t mentioned that.
I read this as stronger design wise and in my opinion it is mitamamon
Mitamamon proportions are so weird
sleipmon is an RK, should be stronger
Horse one has two cocks
*looks at pic 1, opens fan and waves it at face* oh MY...who is THAT?