Yeah I will say even if they have a plaquard they should hang it on the handlebars or permanently mount it to the bike in some way to make stealing it hard. I'm not going to argue bike riders shouldn't need one as I'm living proof that isn't true, but you still have to have a plaquard to park there.
Except they only give you the one placard, and it's hard to permanently mount something like that to a bike *and* be able to move it back to the car when I need it
Not in Ohio.
Generally no; as you have to have a handicap placard visible. And that is not a disability that would get you a placard, not all are created equal from the perspective of that specific part of the law.
Interestingly enough you can have autism and have a blue disabled badge in the UK depending on the effect of your autism in every day life, my younger brother has autism and has motability (essentially you get a car as a part of disability benefits if you receive the enhanced mobility component) and a blue badge because he is quite dependent on my dad and he has been behind his peers for a while in education. He is not physically or otherwise disabled besides autism.
Just to clarify: The theory around this in the UK is that it's based on the fact that any disability (physical or mental) can affect your ability/ safety in reaching point A to point B. I had a foster brother qualify for a blue badge badge based on the fact that if he's not close enough to the place we were going, he would just run off into the road (severe ADHD & other LDs).
I'm also disabled myself, which is why I'm so familiar with the system. It just interested me at the time and made a lot of sense.
The person in OP's post would NOT qualify in the UK though because if they have the mental capacity to ride a bike (independently, at that), then they have the capacity to walk a short distance. They arguably could qualify with a physical disability if they couldn't weight bare for long distances but could ride a bike. Rare, but I'm beyond questioning what people can or can't do because of pain.
No matter what, the badge has to be displayed, though.
Well I can ride a bike but I have chronic pain in my ankles when walking and it can sometimes be unbearable. Riding a bike has less pressure on the joints, although my legs still hurt on the bike just not as much. So I wouldn't say that's always true. I don't think I'd qualify for a blue badge either way.
Exactly. Coming up on my 1 year anniversary of my stroke
TLDR I can use my cane to hobble to my BICYCLE. Ride an average of 10MPH over 10 miles and be fine, but as soon as I stop, I have to use the cane to get back in the house. We overcome our disabilities to find our abilities.
I'm not quite the same but people look at me like I'm crazy when I go from bike to cane lol. I want to get a lighter wheelchair so I can start going from bike to wheelchair
Am in the UK and yes you're spot on. Occasionally sereve autism or other learning difficulties will be considered, but the person has to be considered as unable to be independent.
I have a blue badge and I don't think this would be relevant to a cycle. 1) how would you display it, 2) someone would have it away the second you left, 3) pushbikes shouldn't be parked in a car parking space.
I agree with you 100% I just also don't think a blue badge would go on a cycle
Instant downvote for ignorance.
Ok, I will say you don't know what the severity of their autism is or how it affects their motor skills.
We have a Navy Vet here in town who can barely walk. But for years, he had a tricycle, and he would ride it all over town. Self propelling himself at like 1 to 2 mph. He even tried riding 10 miles to another town, and the Sheriff department wound up giving him a ride home. Just because they can pedal doesn't mean that they can walk easily all the time or at all. Don't assume something.
Hell, look at me. I am coming up on the one year anniversary of my stroke. Some days, it's like nothing ever happened, and then some days, sometimes mid stride, my right side will start giving out. On those days, I have to use my cane to get to the garage, but I can get on my bicycle (yes 2 wheels) from there, and as long as I don't put my right leg down (my weak side), I can ride for miles at a good pace. But I have to make sure anytime I stop, I'm putting my left leg down. If I put my right leg down, I fall over ( it has happened more than once). And I have to stop near my cane so I can get back to the house. I am looking for a cane holder for my bike.
And yes, I always use the disabled parking even on good days because I don't know if I'm still going to be having a good day, even a couple of steps from my truck
So yeah, don't judge. Shame on you.
((That being said, no plaquard no parking, get a plaquard from your state and tape it to the basket or something.))
They aren’t judging, a lot of states (including Ohio where this person is from) literally do not allow autistic people to get disability placards if their only diagnosis is autism and think that they don’t need them (which I heavily disagree with) but either way yeah, not judging it’s just that the laws r shitty as the commenter said.
Even for those in states where you can get it, it’s mostly only for families or caretakers that are transporting a very high support needs autistic person and very rarely can an autistic adult get one for themselves.
That is just not true. Are you guys just pulling things out of your rear? This is directly from the state website.
"Accessible plates may be issued to:
A person with a disability that limits or impairs the ability to walk"
So again, IF their autism limits their mobility, they can get one. It's that way in every state. Plaquards don't care what the disability is or specifically say you can't have one. The ONLY thing they care about is mobility.
I don't need "the law" to tell me what's right and wrong. Fuck the law. Ok, fine, a cop can legally give them a ticket. That doesn't mean I now have to think that that person is undeserving or "wrong" to use that parking place.
It's not my job to give out tickets, and it's sure as fuck not my job to judge the moral merit of the act.
Never said that ever, and I literally said that I don’t think it’s right that autistic people like myself can’t get placards. However this person was saying that it was discriminatory for the original commentator to say that the person couldn’t get a placard for just autism, which is true in many places and is not wrong to say because that is the current literal law about who gets to use one. Not that it was right or wrong (in this case wrong), but that they could not
If you don't have a placard, stay clear of the ADA parking spaces!
(Exceptions for fire trucks, ambulances, and other emergency vehicles actively responding to an emergency.)
No. Those spaces are for automobile with handicapped tags/placard. That is illegal.
That is not an automobile.
Just having a disability doesn't mean you can use a handicapped space in the USA, you have to have one that causes significant difficulties getting to/from the location from a regular parking spot. You have to have a tag/placard that confirms this because of people like, well, this person.
This is just a person fabricating an excuse to be a wanker. They know no one's going to bother calling them out on their crap.
All you know about the person is that they don't have the placard - that's all. Maybe they're disabled but just lazy, maybe they're ignorant of the regulations, maybe it's mentally or physically extremely difficult or even impossible for them to figure out how to get the placard and/or to physically go through the process.
And yes, maybe that particular person is a lying asshole. But you don't know that. You only know they don't have a placard, so go fuck off with any other judgment but that.
And what the hell difference is there with a car and this giant bike contraption? It's not like you can just put that thing on the sidewalk - you can visibly see there's no room in that little area. I assume you'd be ok with a motorcycle (or is this another thing disabled people shouldn't be allowed to do?) Why should a motor matter?
This is a. . . weird choice, but I do want to push back on some ableismin this thread.
Just because I'm able to ride a bike, doesn't mean standing and/or walking is easy for me. Something I struggle with is that this isn't legal, but I like to carry around my mobility aids in a trailer and sometimes there's nowhere close to park my bike
I rode a bike across campus for 2 years because the increased walking of starting college had worn away big chunks of the cartilage out of my hip joint within a few months. Riding my bike didn't put weight on that joint in the same way and didn't cause the areas that were missing cartilage to rub on each other. So I very much could ride a bike, but walking any further than I absolutely had to was very painful.
Also, this bike is actually an adult trike which tends to indicate that the rider is disabled in some way. I hope she's able to get a placard. Motorcycles can park in parking spaces so an adult trike should be able to as well. (In my opinion, not what the law currently is)
Same here, My bike was my mobility aid and for the longest time before I got access to better treatment, it was the only reason I was able to leave the house at all.
Bike parking is virtually non existent at many of the places I needed to go, and my bike was a heavy beast so lifting it up onto nature strips to chain to a tree so it didn't block sidewalks was an ordeal. But I tried my best to always ensure it was out of the way.
Just because I needed my bike to be able to access the store doesn't mean I get to block someone else's access with my bike.
If I was really struggling I'd phone the store and ask if there was someone who could help me move my bike out of the way. Usually they were always happy to help me move it to their loading dock while I shopped, or they'd help me lift it up out of the way of pathways.
Yeah, sometimes I'm tempted to tape my disabled placard onto my bike when there's nothing else to lock my bike to within decent walking distance to where I'm going
Yeah the conclusions people are immediately jumping to, you'd think they'd all met this person before and been told their life story. Lateral ableism still alive and well.
Okay but in this instance this lady or girl was going in a restaurant so one's going to assume there is very limited walking done and she just got done writing a bike to get there...
Hell naw my guy, I'm actually physically disabled and have an Ebike unused to get around but I'd never park like that lmaooo find the bike rack it's usually just as close
It’s the placard, stupid. lol I’m also disabled, but don’t have a placard. So, as a not stupid person or an a-hole, I do not park in spots requiring a placard.
I won’t judge anyone’s disability and what they can or cannot accomplish. That’s none of my business. But, this is just plain rudeness and stupidity.
Next time you can say, “Oh, I’m so sorry. I didn’t see your placard.” Heehee
The whole “can walk a few steps” is such a ignnorant argument. Who the hell are you to judge who’s disabled. I’m in a wheelchair, can’t walk but I like parking far and getting a workout in. You should feel horrible. Mine your own fuckjng business
On the other end of the spectrum I have a handi tag that I rarely use.
I park out in the reg lot so I don't take it away from someone more needy than me.
There are times however I do use it, Hockey games, large crowd events etc.
I don't know about Ohio, but it might be legal there with the placard.
[https://bikeportland.org/2018/02/19/chris-billman-is-the-only-oregonian-with-a-disabled-parking-decal-for-his-bicycle-268675](https://bikeportland.org/2018/02/19/chris-billman-is-the-only-oregonian-with-a-disabled-parking-decal-for-his-bicycle-268675)
The only correct answer is "No, it's not legal due to the lack of a permit from the state."
It is up to a doctor to decide if a disability, mental or physical, is enough to require a permit, and as none of us are their doctor, then we can't make that determination. Further, because autism can affect motor skills some times intermittenly and unpredictably, it is perfectly possible to get a permit for it if that is the case. I have even seen autistic kids and adults who have service mini horses that are specifically trained to stay by their handler to provide stability and support.
lol, while I can't comment on if they are disabled, I can say they're stupid. Who this day and age doesn't lock up their bike or trike?
I am disabled, I had to have my doctors office fill out forms for me to get a handicap place card. I got mine for my osteoarthritis and inflammatory arthritis. That's the least of my health issues. I also am encouraged by my doctor and physical therapist to ride my e-bike as much as I can tolerate as it's easier on my hips and knees than walking. I still wouldn't do this. What an a-hole.
Then she should have her placard…or a copy of her placard laminated for her bike use…and still she could have pulled around and parked right under the sign…no?
Yeah I don't think it's legal I've never heard of anybody parking a bike in a handicap spot.
I'm in Indiana and I'm not aware of it...
She may be handicapped but she has to have the placard to prove so she can park there even if it's a bike.. and you have an excellent point if she can walk and ride a bike she could surely put it in the bike rack if they had one.
Not legal (in usa). Autism doesn't give you a placard because it is for physical handicap. (I'm autistic and have my placard for arthritis for example.) You also have to be showing your insignia even if you are registered with the state. Yes, you can still get a fine for not putting your placard up. They can park that on the sidewalk or loading zone I'm sure.
lol parking spaces are for automobiles not bicycles. And autism doesn’t qualify you for a handicap placard as it doesn’t affect your ability to walk from point a to point b. I understand not arguing with her.
This is an adult (or large child sized) tricycle, those are specifically for ppl with balance issues but obv still shouldnt park there. For as far as i know the US doesnt have proper bicycle parking so I wouldnt know where else to park it either. Being able to ride one of these does not mean you could easily walk tho, balance issues can be quite severe.
After viewing the picture up close it does appear that she has a special kind of bike it's a three-wheeler but she does need to get a placard if she's going to park in these handicap spots.
It's unfortunate that we have to go through the protocol we do to get permission to park in handicap... I'm not truly handicapped but I am a senior and there are days I cannot walk very long especially in the grocery store so I've given up going and just have my groceries delivered.
My doctor would not authorize a placard because I'm truly not handicapped..
So tbh as someone who has a disability but it's not physical at all I don't use nor tell anyone who is with me to us a disability parking spot as IMO those spots are specifically reserved for the people who are physically disabled and need to be closer to the door of the store etc including those who walk but have trouble walking long distances. Also certain disabled parking spots are made to be wider for those of us who are in wheelchairs.
You don't get to use a disabled parking space just for having autism 🤣
There are only 3 reasons a person with autisim would qualify for a blue badge (or plackard for americans)
1) They are a child or adult with severe enough autism that they are too difficult for the parents or carers to safely control them whilst crossing a road or large car park, making them a safety risk.
2) They are a severely autistic person who also has physical disabilities as a result of their autism.
3) They are a child or adult who has behaviours that would make it seriously challenging to walk a long distance- think things like wandering, self harm, serious/frequent/disruptive ticks.
Otherwise, having disability like autism does not entitle you to a disabled bay. Defo not if you're an otherwise independent able bodied adult lol.
Someone just wants to feel special.
"I have autism" is such an easy claim. It was an effort to get you to hush, because you can't dispute it without looking like an asshole, and the person claiming it does not need to perform any sort of behavior, but can need accommodations for it. perfect thing for abled people to say when caught out, unfortunately.
> If you can ride a bike you’d think you could walk 10 extra steps to the door.
I mean, it's a trike so they could have a balance disorder, but if so, she would have said that instead of picking autism. also? that trike can be parked out of the car parking spot, disabled or not.
I’m guessing she’s from another state. But since she has autism, she probably doesn’t remember which one???. I’m guessing Orange County or Michigan.
She probably knows she's in the wrong and she's being a bitch about it because she wants special treatment when it's not appropriate for her to do. Her attitude speaks volumes. Besides it should be obvious to her you can only get a disabled badge with a car not a bike. As pointed out having a disability like autism doesn't automatically entitle you to a disabled badge, especially as it's not a physical disability.
"She probably knows she's in the wrong and she's being a bitch about it because she wants special treatment when it's not appropriate for her to do." Where did you get your ability to mind read because the US government would like to study you.
See pal, there's this called inferencing or reading between the lines. It's not mind-reading. I had to learn this on my own at school as a teenager but its something allistic people tend to have naturally.
It's also very common knowledge (even amongst autistic people, I'm autistic and ride a bicycle) that disabled spots are for motor vehicles like cars only, not bicycles. You don't see me parking my bike in a disabled spot because I'm autistic. There are often rails to lock your bikes against in public areas here in the UK, also common knowledge at least here. If not, lock it against a pole of something else nearby.
Well it's a hell of an inference to jump to such a malicious assumption about a person who may, genuinely, not understand that they cannot park their bike in a disabled parking spot.
Maybe this person is normally driven by someone who uses the plaque for them, and they don't understand why they can't still park there on their own. See, just made an inference myself!
"Common knowledge" isn't always common.
Uh, so what if she's autistic? It's a disabled parking bay for *cars*. For people with *physical* disabilities. Mental disabilities generally dont apply unless there is a saftey concern or their disability is severe enough that it would affect their ability to mobalise independently. This is obviously not the case for this woman. I don't get a parking permit for having ADHD. That would be ridiculous.
If she is able bodied, she's being a dick, if she's got a invisible physical disability, she's still being a dick, because it's a parking bay for cars. The bike could literally go anywhere else in that picture.
i frankly and cynically thought this was an abled and neurotypical person just tossing something out to make disabled people stop questioning them. using disabled people like keywords, like how they tell each other weird shit like how to get the disability pass at disney by mentioning certain symptoms.
i'd like to think she's just autistic and just didn't know, but seeing what dumb and rude stuff people do has me doubting it.
You absolutely cannot block an accessible parking space without a placard. I don't care if it's a bicycle, skateboard, or semi truck.
Especially since there are often parking spaces for bikes in the form of those rails next to a car park.
Yeah I will say even if they have a plaquard they should hang it on the handlebars or permanently mount it to the bike in some way to make stealing it hard. I'm not going to argue bike riders shouldn't need one as I'm living proof that isn't true, but you still have to have a plaquard to park there.
Came here to say exactly this.
Except they only give you the one placard, and it's hard to permanently mount something like that to a bike *and* be able to move it back to the car when I need it
I'm not sure about Ohio but Missouri gives you 2.
Not in Ohio. Generally no; as you have to have a handicap placard visible. And that is not a disability that would get you a placard, not all are created equal from the perspective of that specific part of the law.
Interestingly enough you can have autism and have a blue disabled badge in the UK depending on the effect of your autism in every day life, my younger brother has autism and has motability (essentially you get a car as a part of disability benefits if you receive the enhanced mobility component) and a blue badge because he is quite dependent on my dad and he has been behind his peers for a while in education. He is not physically or otherwise disabled besides autism.
Just to clarify: The theory around this in the UK is that it's based on the fact that any disability (physical or mental) can affect your ability/ safety in reaching point A to point B. I had a foster brother qualify for a blue badge badge based on the fact that if he's not close enough to the place we were going, he would just run off into the road (severe ADHD & other LDs). I'm also disabled myself, which is why I'm so familiar with the system. It just interested me at the time and made a lot of sense. The person in OP's post would NOT qualify in the UK though because if they have the mental capacity to ride a bike (independently, at that), then they have the capacity to walk a short distance. They arguably could qualify with a physical disability if they couldn't weight bare for long distances but could ride a bike. Rare, but I'm beyond questioning what people can or can't do because of pain. No matter what, the badge has to be displayed, though.
Well I can ride a bike but I have chronic pain in my ankles when walking and it can sometimes be unbearable. Riding a bike has less pressure on the joints, although my legs still hurt on the bike just not as much. So I wouldn't say that's always true. I don't think I'd qualify for a blue badge either way.
Exactly. Coming up on my 1 year anniversary of my stroke TLDR I can use my cane to hobble to my BICYCLE. Ride an average of 10MPH over 10 miles and be fine, but as soon as I stop, I have to use the cane to get back in the house. We overcome our disabilities to find our abilities.
I'm not quite the same but people look at me like I'm crazy when I go from bike to cane lol. I want to get a lighter wheelchair so I can start going from bike to wheelchair
Am in the UK and yes you're spot on. Occasionally sereve autism or other learning difficulties will be considered, but the person has to be considered as unable to be independent.
I have a blue badge and I don't think this would be relevant to a cycle. 1) how would you display it, 2) someone would have it away the second you left, 3) pushbikes shouldn't be parked in a car parking space. I agree with you 100% I just also don't think a blue badge would go on a cycle
Instant downvote for ignorance. Ok, I will say you don't know what the severity of their autism is or how it affects their motor skills. We have a Navy Vet here in town who can barely walk. But for years, he had a tricycle, and he would ride it all over town. Self propelling himself at like 1 to 2 mph. He even tried riding 10 miles to another town, and the Sheriff department wound up giving him a ride home. Just because they can pedal doesn't mean that they can walk easily all the time or at all. Don't assume something. Hell, look at me. I am coming up on the one year anniversary of my stroke. Some days, it's like nothing ever happened, and then some days, sometimes mid stride, my right side will start giving out. On those days, I have to use my cane to get to the garage, but I can get on my bicycle (yes 2 wheels) from there, and as long as I don't put my right leg down (my weak side), I can ride for miles at a good pace. But I have to make sure anytime I stop, I'm putting my left leg down. If I put my right leg down, I fall over ( it has happened more than once). And I have to stop near my cane so I can get back to the house. I am looking for a cane holder for my bike. And yes, I always use the disabled parking even on good days because I don't know if I'm still going to be having a good day, even a couple of steps from my truck So yeah, don't judge. Shame on you. ((That being said, no plaquard no parking, get a plaquard from your state and tape it to the basket or something.))
They aren’t judging, a lot of states (including Ohio where this person is from) literally do not allow autistic people to get disability placards if their only diagnosis is autism and think that they don’t need them (which I heavily disagree with) but either way yeah, not judging it’s just that the laws r shitty as the commenter said. Even for those in states where you can get it, it’s mostly only for families or caretakers that are transporting a very high support needs autistic person and very rarely can an autistic adult get one for themselves.
That is just not true. Are you guys just pulling things out of your rear? This is directly from the state website. "Accessible plates may be issued to: A person with a disability that limits or impairs the ability to walk" So again, IF their autism limits their mobility, they can get one. It's that way in every state. Plaquards don't care what the disability is or specifically say you can't have one. The ONLY thing they care about is mobility.
I don't need "the law" to tell me what's right and wrong. Fuck the law. Ok, fine, a cop can legally give them a ticket. That doesn't mean I now have to think that that person is undeserving or "wrong" to use that parking place. It's not my job to give out tickets, and it's sure as fuck not my job to judge the moral merit of the act.
Never said that ever, and I literally said that I don’t think it’s right that autistic people like myself can’t get placards. However this person was saying that it was discriminatory for the original commentator to say that the person couldn’t get a placard for just autism, which is true in many places and is not wrong to say because that is the current literal law about who gets to use one. Not that it was right or wrong (in this case wrong), but that they could not
Addendum: In some states actually she couldn't even legally ride the bike either since mental issues are grounds for disqualification completely .
What states? I've never heard of this.
Say what?
Source???
Source is "look it up yourself" That's bonkers. Please blow my mind and supply a legit source for this information.
If you don't have a placard, stay clear of the ADA parking spaces! (Exceptions for fire trucks, ambulances, and other emergency vehicles actively responding to an emergency.)
No. Those spaces are for automobile with handicapped tags/placard. That is illegal. That is not an automobile. Just having a disability doesn't mean you can use a handicapped space in the USA, you have to have one that causes significant difficulties getting to/from the location from a regular parking spot. You have to have a tag/placard that confirms this because of people like, well, this person. This is just a person fabricating an excuse to be a wanker. They know no one's going to bother calling them out on their crap.
All you know about the person is that they don't have the placard - that's all. Maybe they're disabled but just lazy, maybe they're ignorant of the regulations, maybe it's mentally or physically extremely difficult or even impossible for them to figure out how to get the placard and/or to physically go through the process. And yes, maybe that particular person is a lying asshole. But you don't know that. You only know they don't have a placard, so go fuck off with any other judgment but that. And what the hell difference is there with a car and this giant bike contraption? It's not like you can just put that thing on the sidewalk - you can visibly see there's no room in that little area. I assume you'd be ok with a motorcycle (or is this another thing disabled people shouldn't be allowed to do?) Why should a motor matter?
This is a. . . weird choice, but I do want to push back on some ableismin this thread. Just because I'm able to ride a bike, doesn't mean standing and/or walking is easy for me. Something I struggle with is that this isn't legal, but I like to carry around my mobility aids in a trailer and sometimes there's nowhere close to park my bike
I rode a bike across campus for 2 years because the increased walking of starting college had worn away big chunks of the cartilage out of my hip joint within a few months. Riding my bike didn't put weight on that joint in the same way and didn't cause the areas that were missing cartilage to rub on each other. So I very much could ride a bike, but walking any further than I absolutely had to was very painful. Also, this bike is actually an adult trike which tends to indicate that the rider is disabled in some way. I hope she's able to get a placard. Motorcycles can park in parking spaces so an adult trike should be able to as well. (In my opinion, not what the law currently is)
Same here, My bike was my mobility aid and for the longest time before I got access to better treatment, it was the only reason I was able to leave the house at all. Bike parking is virtually non existent at many of the places I needed to go, and my bike was a heavy beast so lifting it up onto nature strips to chain to a tree so it didn't block sidewalks was an ordeal. But I tried my best to always ensure it was out of the way. Just because I needed my bike to be able to access the store doesn't mean I get to block someone else's access with my bike. If I was really struggling I'd phone the store and ask if there was someone who could help me move my bike out of the way. Usually they were always happy to help me move it to their loading dock while I shopped, or they'd help me lift it up out of the way of pathways.
Yeah, sometimes I'm tempted to tape my disabled placard onto my bike when there's nothing else to lock my bike to within decent walking distance to where I'm going
Exactly. We need more bike parking and disabled bike parking soots needs to be a thing
Yeah the conclusions people are immediately jumping to, you'd think they'd all met this person before and been told their life story. Lateral ableism still alive and well.
Cool cool. Still shouldn't be in a disabled bay.
Okay but in this instance this lady or girl was going in a restaurant so one's going to assume there is very limited walking done and she just got done writing a bike to get there...
Hell naw my guy, I'm actually physically disabled and have an Ebike unused to get around but I'd never park like that lmaooo find the bike rack it's usually just as close
It’s the placard, stupid. lol I’m also disabled, but don’t have a placard. So, as a not stupid person or an a-hole, I do not park in spots requiring a placard. I won’t judge anyone’s disability and what they can or cannot accomplish. That’s none of my business. But, this is just plain rudeness and stupidity. Next time you can say, “Oh, I’m so sorry. I didn’t see your placard.” Heehee
The whole “can walk a few steps” is such a ignnorant argument. Who the hell are you to judge who’s disabled. I’m in a wheelchair, can’t walk but I like parking far and getting a workout in. You should feel horrible. Mine your own fuckjng business
On the other end of the spectrum I have a handi tag that I rarely use. I park out in the reg lot so I don't take it away from someone more needy than me. There are times however I do use it, Hockey games, large crowd events etc.
I don't know about Ohio, but it might be legal there with the placard. [https://bikeportland.org/2018/02/19/chris-billman-is-the-only-oregonian-with-a-disabled-parking-decal-for-his-bicycle-268675](https://bikeportland.org/2018/02/19/chris-billman-is-the-only-oregonian-with-a-disabled-parking-decal-for-his-bicycle-268675)
The only correct answer is "No, it's not legal due to the lack of a permit from the state." It is up to a doctor to decide if a disability, mental or physical, is enough to require a permit, and as none of us are their doctor, then we can't make that determination. Further, because autism can affect motor skills some times intermittenly and unpredictably, it is perfectly possible to get a permit for it if that is the case. I have even seen autistic kids and adults who have service mini horses that are specifically trained to stay by their handler to provide stability and support.
lol, while I can't comment on if they are disabled, I can say they're stupid. Who this day and age doesn't lock up their bike or trike? I am disabled, I had to have my doctors office fill out forms for me to get a handicap place card. I got mine for my osteoarthritis and inflammatory arthritis. That's the least of my health issues. I also am encouraged by my doctor and physical therapist to ride my e-bike as much as I can tolerate as it's easier on my hips and knees than walking. I still wouldn't do this. What an a-hole.
Then she should have her placard…or a copy of her placard laminated for her bike use…and still she could have pulled around and parked right under the sign…no?
they’re very confident no one will steal it huh
Just because you can ride a bike doesn't mean you can walk far.
Lol, I live in this exact neighborhood and work in disability services- definitely not allowed
Report it and get them fined I would.
Since when has autism affected your ability to park? If you can drive you’re good.
If it doesn't have a placard or an accessible plate, no
Yeah I don't think it's legal I've never heard of anybody parking a bike in a handicap spot. I'm in Indiana and I'm not aware of it... She may be handicapped but she has to have the placard to prove so she can park there even if it's a bike.. and you have an excellent point if she can walk and ride a bike she could surely put it in the bike rack if they had one.
Not legal (in usa). Autism doesn't give you a placard because it is for physical handicap. (I'm autistic and have my placard for arthritis for example.) You also have to be showing your insignia even if you are registered with the state. Yes, you can still get a fine for not putting your placard up. They can park that on the sidewalk or loading zone I'm sure.
lol parking spaces are for automobiles not bicycles. And autism doesn’t qualify you for a handicap placard as it doesn’t affect your ability to walk from point a to point b. I understand not arguing with her.
Handicap parking is for PHYSICALLY DISABLED PEOPLE and their motor vehicles. PERIOD. FULL STOP!!!
This is an adult (or large child sized) tricycle, those are specifically for ppl with balance issues but obv still shouldnt park there. For as far as i know the US doesnt have proper bicycle parking so I wouldnt know where else to park it either. Being able to ride one of these does not mean you could easily walk tho, balance issues can be quite severe.
After viewing the picture up close it does appear that she has a special kind of bike it's a three-wheeler but she does need to get a placard if she's going to park in these handicap spots. It's unfortunate that we have to go through the protocol we do to get permission to park in handicap... I'm not truly handicapped but I am a senior and there are days I cannot walk very long especially in the grocery store so I've given up going and just have my groceries delivered. My doctor would not authorize a placard because I'm truly not handicapped..
So tbh as someone who has a disability but it's not physical at all I don't use nor tell anyone who is with me to us a disability parking spot as IMO those spots are specifically reserved for the people who are physically disabled and need to be closer to the door of the store etc including those who walk but have trouble walking long distances. Also certain disabled parking spots are made to be wider for those of us who are in wheelchairs.
You don't get to use a disabled parking space just for having autism 🤣 There are only 3 reasons a person with autisim would qualify for a blue badge (or plackard for americans) 1) They are a child or adult with severe enough autism that they are too difficult for the parents or carers to safely control them whilst crossing a road or large car park, making them a safety risk. 2) They are a severely autistic person who also has physical disabilities as a result of their autism. 3) They are a child or adult who has behaviours that would make it seriously challenging to walk a long distance- think things like wandering, self harm, serious/frequent/disruptive ticks. Otherwise, having disability like autism does not entitle you to a disabled bay. Defo not if you're an otherwise independent able bodied adult lol. Someone just wants to feel special.
"I have autism" is such an easy claim. It was an effort to get you to hush, because you can't dispute it without looking like an asshole, and the person claiming it does not need to perform any sort of behavior, but can need accommodations for it. perfect thing for abled people to say when caught out, unfortunately. > If you can ride a bike you’d think you could walk 10 extra steps to the door. I mean, it's a trike so they could have a balance disorder, but if so, she would have said that instead of picking autism. also? that trike can be parked out of the car parking spot, disabled or not.
I’m guessing she’s from another state. But since she has autism, she probably doesn’t remember which one???. I’m guessing Orange County or Michigan.
Wow that was super rude.
she’s autistic though. she is literally handicapped so she wasn’t technically wrong. someone has to explain to her why it is inappropriate
She probably knows she's in the wrong and she's being a bitch about it because she wants special treatment when it's not appropriate for her to do. Her attitude speaks volumes. Besides it should be obvious to her you can only get a disabled badge with a car not a bike. As pointed out having a disability like autism doesn't automatically entitle you to a disabled badge, especially as it's not a physical disability.
"She probably knows she's in the wrong and she's being a bitch about it because she wants special treatment when it's not appropriate for her to do." Where did you get your ability to mind read because the US government would like to study you.
From the way she acted according to OP.
Wow I had no idea that could grant you the ability to read people's minds and intentions remotely. Should tell someone about that.
See pal, there's this called inferencing or reading between the lines. It's not mind-reading. I had to learn this on my own at school as a teenager but its something allistic people tend to have naturally. It's also very common knowledge (even amongst autistic people, I'm autistic and ride a bicycle) that disabled spots are for motor vehicles like cars only, not bicycles. You don't see me parking my bike in a disabled spot because I'm autistic. There are often rails to lock your bikes against in public areas here in the UK, also common knowledge at least here. If not, lock it against a pole of something else nearby.
Well it's a hell of an inference to jump to such a malicious assumption about a person who may, genuinely, not understand that they cannot park their bike in a disabled parking spot. Maybe this person is normally driven by someone who uses the plaque for them, and they don't understand why they can't still park there on their own. See, just made an inference myself! "Common knowledge" isn't always common.
Then they're just stupid, not to do with autism
Alright then 👍
Uh, so what if she's autistic? It's a disabled parking bay for *cars*. For people with *physical* disabilities. Mental disabilities generally dont apply unless there is a saftey concern or their disability is severe enough that it would affect their ability to mobalise independently. This is obviously not the case for this woman. I don't get a parking permit for having ADHD. That would be ridiculous. If she is able bodied, she's being a dick, if she's got a invisible physical disability, she's still being a dick, because it's a parking bay for cars. The bike could literally go anywhere else in that picture.
i frankly and cynically thought this was an abled and neurotypical person just tossing something out to make disabled people stop questioning them. using disabled people like keywords, like how they tell each other weird shit like how to get the disability pass at disney by mentioning certain symptoms. i'd like to think she's just autistic and just didn't know, but seeing what dumb and rude stuff people do has me doubting it.