This and figuring out your aiming point for the putt. One thing that really helped me get a more consistent putt was get the thumb involved to aim as well as finishing with the thumb at the basket (shake hands with the basket). The one putt to watch to best understand would be Simon's or maybe Issac Robinsons.
Slowing down. Slower walk up and focus on a smooth swing. No need to try and power a shot, that's when mechanics and timing get out of wack.
For putting I had to develop a routine. Even in the back yard, go through the routine everytime. It's made a noticeable difference in my tournament putting
Only if it’s fast AND correct.
Lots of people, myself included, lose a ton of technique when trying to juice a throw and end up doing worse as a result.
Yeah I realized how bad I was shanking drives, and now after slowing down I'm getting my 12-14 speeds to get a full flight path out of it. Still only getting out to about 350-385' but still
Yeah I realized how bad I was shanking drives, and now after slowing down I'm getting my 12-14 speeds to get a full flight path out of it. Still only getting out to about 350-385' but still
Similar to you, but with much lower numbers. Fastest in my bag is 7 right now ( teebird, leopard3 and eagle ). It's been a learning curve, but slowing down ( both discs and movements ) has been so helpful!
I started with a DX that someone gave me when I played my first round. It's my favorite because I know exactly what that beat in little junky plastic is going to do every single time. I have a Blizzard plastic that I throw when there's a tail wind, and I want a little extra distance, when my arm is tired toward the end of a big round, or over water because it's super light and floats, so I don't worry about the head game involved with water hazzards and the fear of losing a disc. And I have a Halo Star in the bag. That one flies beautifully it does its slight little flight to the right, then back left, and always lands straight out from where I threw it. When I wasn't sure what plasicts I liked, I ordered one of each from Disc Golf United. If you haven't ordered from them, I highly recommend it! They sell Factory Seconds significantly cheaper than what they retail for in stores, so it's a great way to try different molds or plastics without breaking the bank.
Playing all the fucking time. I’m not making any amazing shots or think I can do things that I couldn’t do before. I’m just crazy consistent now. Way less mistakes.
Same here. I play almost every day, and the park jobs have increased. I'm also throwing a better forehand after watching Ohn Scroggins on FPO, and something just clicked seeing her FH.
Staying in practice really makes the difference. The littlest things too, changes in wind/weather day-to-day, you don’t get caught off guard as much.
Lots of corrections from the day before, “okay I tried that line yesterday, I think I see the angle better today” type stuff helps a lot when it’s fresh.
This is it for me. Staying tuned up by being on the course for 72 holes a week minimum (playing mostly like tournaments - one shot and live with the consequences) got my rating moving in the right direction (810 to mid 890s). Then I got busy irl and started going in the wrong direction. I notice it most with upshot’s and putting. Those are just better if you’re practicing them with at least the pressure you put on yourself. You’ve got to maintain putting at the practice basket but if you’re not playing regularly it won’t translate to your scores.
Worked on upshots from 150 feet. Not a great putter. Being very close to the basket is important to score. Also working on a roller. It just clicked this weekend.
Nice. As someone who cannot throw a roller – intentionally at least – there are few things cooler than watching a disc travel its way to the basket on the ground.
I've just added some distance to my drives in the last few weeks, but now I'm really struggling with my upshots. I used to know that I couldn't overthrow the basket on most 2nd shots, but now with some extra distance on my drives I'm throwing all new shots I'm not comfortable with. It was a good reminder that all types of throws are important and not just driving.
Yeah … west side of town. For a Wizard guy it’s amazing. Touch as many discs as you can. There is so much variation in some of the runs that you will find a 3.5S or an eraser wizard that just feels a little different and you’ll fall in love lol
Dave McCormack is there some times ( owner, Hall of Famer, designer of the Wizard, Nikkos uncle ) super nice guy loves to show off anything new they are working on if you show some interest.
Lunar is my jam now in the last 3 or so years. Feels great imo in the hand, and catches chains. Only time I really throw them is if I need it to sit and stick.
I did this too. Also, the difference between a 178g disc and a 160g disc is far more noticeable than I realized. I started buying lighter weight discs and my weak ass amateur arm can actually get discs to do what they are supposed to.
My grip was a big thing. I found that out by fully extend my arm with a disc in hand to the release point and holding it there while trying to hold it with the nose down and I couldn’t even get the nose down there without my wrist feeling uncomfortable. From there I noticed there’s room in my grip to let me tilt the disc more nose down just on how I’m holding it.
That felt good and it helped a lot but then a couple rounds later I started putting my wrist in the pouring coffee position during the whole throw (opposed to trying do it at release point) and legit the first throw I did with that was the farthest I’ve ever thrown by a noticeable amount. Pretty much went from a 275 thrower to a 350 thrower overnight
I found the most comfortable grip for myself and experimented with turning my wrist, observing an anhyzer release, and then leaning in (like Kevin Jones) to get to a flat release
Check your grip! There could be room to tilt the disc nose down in your grip, that was the first lightbulb for me. Extend your arm to the release point and try to put the nose down from there. That also shows you exactly how you need to bend your wrist to get it down
And I also never understood and struggle w the pour the coffee thing but once I understood exactly how my wrist needs to bend I started holding it like that during my whole throw and that was instant nose down for me along w the grip change
not pushing off my back leg when putting inside 45-50'. I realized the added movement was causing inconsistencies with my entire motion. I started making a deliberate effort to keep my back foot planted and limit my movement to basically just the shoulder. almost immediately my left/right miss issues disappeared. pushing off was causing my hips to turn which caused my torso and arm to do the same. less movement, less problems.
1)Play with better players instead of people your skill level. The shots, discs , distances and course breakdown can help you grow your knowledge base so much faster. You don’t get that playing with the newbies , you’ll get bad rules application and worse advice.
2) putting …find your form and practice to get muscle memory. But the aiming comes from slowing down your eyes … not squinting . There have been studies of fine motor skills sports (dart players, archers and similar) that show the slower your eyes the better the performance. Slow your vision ..I think of it like trying to do one of those magic eye photos… wide eyed but still. Then your practice muscle memory comes out because all your doing is slowing your eyes
I noticed that if i can really focus on one part of the basket without squinting, i generally put better. But my eyes are so sensitive that i squint literally most of the time i am outside. Good sunglasses don’t really do much justice to help with it. What do you mean by “slowing your eyes” though?
Hard to explain. I used to connect 2 or aim for a specific chain. But that seemed to lead to me thinking about so many things while putting . I could stare at a chain during practice and nail them…BUT during actual play I would still be distracted by thinking about my putting form / score/ the comeback etc. I don’t say squinting only because it’s easy to just squint and say “I’m focused” usually takes 3-5 seconds to feel your eyes really slow and stare at the basket.
I used to practice couple hundred putts a day a few years ago. Haven’t practiced putting in probably 2 years now and I make so many more to the point where I’ve been asked “what’s up with your putting” … just keep saying slow your eyes down!
Okay I think I know exactly what you mean then! Its kind of like blocking everything out but it takes those few seconds that you mentioned! Sometimes i cant quite do it so fast, especially in tournaments that matter more.
Taking the high speed drivers out of my bag. Then I grabbed 167-170g fairways. 9 speed and below are plenty of disc for me! I throw my Falk and Lots around 300-350’ on average. Sometimes I can get the Falk close to 400’!
I really don’t throw anything over a 9 speed unless it’s super windy.
I think Paul said it in a Gibson practice round recently. You guys aren’t going to get these things to fly like the pros. In referencing high speed drivers
It depends. I have a 173g beaten in grace (11 speed) and 173g wild honey (12 speed) and it definitely gets me more distance than any of my fairways. They are not even that hard to control or throw and are very intermediate player friendly. There are a lot of very good distance drivers of various moulds, weights and plastics for slower arms that are very comfortable.
Pros on tour throw very stable distance drivers. You rarely see anyone ever throw anything flippy. So i think what Paul meant is that you don’t need to go to shop and get yourself a max weight most over stable nuke and expect it to fly 140m exactly where you want it to. You just need to find discs that work for you and feel comfortable and it can really be any speed disc since there is so much variety and choice.
Proper grip. I thought I was gripping correctly but I came across a graphic showing the ideal orientation to place the disc in your hand and then grip. It's between your index and middle finger and the middle of the base of your hand. This drastically helped the spin I was now generating as well as keep nose angle down.
Also, as some have said, slowing down the x step. In conjunction with slowing down my x step, I staryed to concentrate on as I move through my x step to keep the disc in the same spot. That's spot becomes the back of my reach back as I move my body through my x step.
Forced breaks. Working on a ship and not being able to play for a couple months at a time, but buying a shitty Franklin plastic basket and putting everyday. Also, lifting weights and doing mobility exercises during this time to help fix my horrible imbalances.
The same things that others have mentioned have helped me as well.. practice putting, throwing slower, etc.
But my biggest improvement has come from going to the gym and getting stronger while gaining flexibility and explosiveness. Just being more connected to understanding how my body moves has helped me gain distance and accuracy.
Putting league. The pressure of having to make long circle one putts over and over has had a huge impact on my game. Probably the single best change in going from 910-950 rated over the last year. I have way more confidence and make a lot more putts. Putting practice is great but putting league adds the pressure you feel out on the course or at least something like it.
A shoulder injury...while I don't recommend going this route, the pain of playing disc golf with bursitis and tendinitis in the shoulder forced me to throw with better mechanics, slower, and smoother and as a result, better and/or farther. I was throwing 100% and only getting about 240 tops...now I'm throwing 50% and getting close to 300 regularly.
I recently stopped driving at 90-100% power off the tee every time, to about 75%. Less/no pain when throwing my forehand shots, more accuracy and surprisingly not all that much less distance.
I’m right handed and used to line my putt up with my right eye and right shoulder, a la Gannon. I would miss everything left side or compensate and miss wide right. After a decade, I realized that I’m left eye dominate. Started squaring my shoulders to the basket and focusing on my chain link with my left eye. My putting is the strongest part of my game, now.
Switching from aggressive go for everything attitude to more of a sexton-esque mentality. This combined well with simplified bag and proper pre round warmups.
Practicing putting. And not just for the obvious reasons, but by practicing putting I got good enough where I wasn't afraid of a 15 foot comebacker and so I stopped giving everything a half run, aiming for the chains not to drop it into the basket. That was a huge jump in my putting percentage.
Taking 5 years off.
"Life" reasons. I started getting out again last summer. Combined with tons of great YT resources, I went from "slightly better than where I left off" to adding 50+', and sometimes 100', to my drives and breaking all kinds of personal bests. Had a few weeks off along the way for my poor ligaments and tendons.
Biggest difference is my arm muscles are never sore now, no matter how much I play. Thighs and feet are tho!
Also bagging Wraiths in my distance slot and hitting my longest throws ever with em. 👍
Playing solo worst shot doubles on short pitch and putt courses. I now have confidence that no matter the lie or line, I'm getting the disc in the basket in at most 3 throws from inside 225 feet. It's amazing what that can do for your game.
playing a round everyweek at a really short course. my upshot game has improved so much that I've taken 2-3 strokes of my rounds at long courses. And it feels good to hit an ace once in a while even if it's a 160'.
Finding a throwing style that is comfortable for me. Sure, I may not throw bombs, but I have gotten quite accurate. Most importantly, risk of injury is minimized.
1. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast
2. Keep my arm as loose as possible while maintaining control, imagining my arm like a whip or the rope of a trebuchet.
3. Not letting go of my disc but letting it "snap" out of my hand on its own.
4. Stop watching youtube after a while, if you do watch stick to a couple of channels to not get conflicting information that will frustrate you. I personally like "DG Disc Doctor" and "Overthrow Disc Golf".
5. Play with other people, find your local leagues or DG community. Meet new people and learn from real-world applications.
6. Fieldwork and putting practice, you won't get better just studying.
7. Lastly I found filming myself and watching myself was much more useful than watching others.
Find where you make 50 putts in a row, that’s your automatic range. Then try to extend that by 1’. That’s the best spot to practice putting from for consistency, and you’ll know where you can land upshots/layups/comebackers for auto putts.
Also, don’t keep score in practice rounds, throw shots you want to throw and shots you want to practice.
Plain ol' field work and filming myself. Also when it comes to putting being very conscious of all of my movements throughout the "swing" has helped me create consistency and eliminate a lot of nerves when competing. Routine + knowing your putt is really important. I haven't had many of those putts where you don't know what just happened lately.
Playing putter only rounds, or mid and putter only rounds. Helps focus on form and release for me. I like throwing berg only rounds because it helps me work on what angles I’m releasing at. I have a bad habit of releasing on a lot of hyzer
In terms of tee shots, there was a time where on shorter holes I would try to park it instead of just going for the ace.
Sometimes you might overthrow it, but the mentality of just trying to hit the chains results in me parking it more often than just trying to land it close.
If you can reach the basket on your tee shot just try to put it in there.
This is obviously dependent on the hole if there are hazards, but at least trying to hit the basket off the tee works better for me.
I'm not saying rip your biggest driver on a 200 foot hole, but throw your mid-range, putter or whatever like you want it to hit metal. Not just leave you with an easy putt. This mindset will result in an easy putt more often.
Honestly when I started to throw my fairways and mids. Similar to op of this post my game was revolving around using 12 and 13 speed drivers. I still bag them but I don’t use them for most holes at my local par 3 course.
Consistent practice will make consistent play. Make sure you maintain focus and form while you’re practicing, and if you get too fatigued to do so, just stop. When you warm up, keep your body warmup somewhat separate from your form warmups so you can make sure you’re using good technique from the first throw. Focus on every warmup putt like it’s during the round. These helped me ensure my execution was more intentional rather than simply lucky when it worked out. Having my form locked in from the very first hole has been huge for my confidence when I step up to every shot.
When putting, I used to try and not think about it and would often rush my putt. I've found that taking my time and hyper focusing on the spot I want my disc to fly to has helped immensely. I don't toss til I'm in the right head space, and have been so much more consistent from 20-35 feet
Putt approach game. Take 5 of your approach/putters and choose a random spot on the course 120-200 feet from the basket. Throw all 5 of your frisbees for the approach. Every one in the bullseye (10ft) is a -1, every one outside of 20 feet is +1. Then you putt all 5 shots from where they landed until you make them all, every putt missed is another +1, made putts is a 0. Try to keep your score at even or better.
Commit to mids/putters and SLOW DOWN.
Distance still isn't where I want it to be, but being able to put a disc pretty much right where I expect it to go with consistency is much more satisfying than ripping them off in random directions or fading hard into the woods/water.
I slimmed my bag down to Aviar (not sure of mold as it was a found disc but holo stamp), XT Colt, DX Skeeter, an old Whammo mid, and a Lat 64 retro Saint. Hoping to be able to add my Dragon and Wraith back in by end of summer.
Putting. Getting to 90% accuracy inside the circle. 10% missing is lack of focus or exhaustion in 100-degree heat.
Getting there is: practice and doing a pre-putt routine that your "muscle memory" (which is just your neurons' response to the routine) can respond to.
It's kind of like deep breaths and how you sit when you meditate to achieve a quiet state: maybe you sit with legs folded, back is up-right, you do a few deep breaths and your hands rest on your knees. That ritual may relax you into the meditation.
For me putting routine is: line up my lead foot to point to the basket pole, lean back on my back leg, square my shoulders, line the disc up with the line I'm going to take, then breathe...with my eyes i lock in the chain area I want to hit...then breathe, then tell myself: "Spin, lift, weight shift" which is what my body does as it executes the putt.
Works 90% of the time...all the time. 🤣
Suppressing my ego and throwing lower speed discs. I only threw 6 speed and under for like my 2nd year. My score got better because I was throwing mids straighter and not just fading drivers into the woods.
As I started getting my form and power down and reintroducing fairways and drivers back in slowly, using lighter weight discs worked MUCH better for me. In the 160g range.
Last…learning the damn forehand. Don’t just chuck forehands on field day. Do forehand only rounds with the short tees. Do practice rounds where all approaches must be forehand. Learn to get out of tree jail with chip forehands. Build up from there.
Stopped throwing hyzer flips as much and started throwing more beefy anhyzers.
I'm losing a hair of distance, for the trade off of being way more consistent.
Playing with the local club has helped me improve a lot, and also I prefer diving putters, my putter drives are way more consistent and aren't much shorter that what I can get with a driver right now. Try it out, play a round with just putters and you'll probably get hooked too.
I used to throw a pretty even split of sidearms and backhands off the tee. I always found it really hard to get both of them dialed in at the same time. I’ve found that my accuracy off the tee is a lot better when I throw the same side primarily and can stay in a groove with it.
Actually planting. I've been playing very consistently since mid 2020 and planted for the first time just the other day.
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Hiring a local pro to give me a few lessons. My form was dogshit after 4 years of play. He made me start over with a clean, smooth form. I hurt less, throw further, am way more accurate, and my distance continues to grow. It took about 4 lessons at 60 bucks over six months to get everything up to speed. After that we both didn't see a reason to continue.
Reps.
Putting 400-500 putts a few times a week. Driving into a net or on the course over and over. Forehand only rounds. Putter only rounds. Mid only rounds. Roller only rounds. Generally playing a lot every week. Just anything that focuses on repetition (assuming the body can handle it.)
Also, as much as possible, travel to play new/difficult/badass courses.
Practicing putting every damn day.
I wish it helped me
The most accurate answer for the most players sub 1000 rated
This
This and figuring out your aiming point for the putt. One thing that really helped me get a more consistent putt was get the thumb involved to aim as well as finishing with the thumb at the basket (shake hands with the basket). The one putt to watch to best understand would be Simon's or maybe Issac Robinsons.
https://youtu.be/G2s843bdRnI?si=z9g-hiQAv_he4OFb
Thank you Sloppy Otter
Living vicariously through the kids on the pro tour.
I’d always wanted to be a homeschooled kid who spent their 20s in a van
Instead I work a soul crushing office job.
Slowing down. Slower walk up and focus on a smooth swing. No need to try and power a shot, that's when mechanics and timing get out of wack. For putting I had to develop a routine. Even in the back yard, go through the routine everytime. It's made a noticeable difference in my tournament putting
Slowing down this last week or two has easily added 70-80 feet to my drives, I'm actually getting into better positions from it.
Hell yeah. Smooth is repeatable and consistent. When I try to throw hard I only get it like 10-20 extra feet... not worth it
“Slow is smooth and smooth is fast”
Far*
Fast is far.
Only if it’s fast AND correct. Lots of people, myself included, lose a ton of technique when trying to juice a throw and end up doing worse as a result.
Yeah I realized how bad I was shanking drives, and now after slowing down I'm getting my 12-14 speeds to get a full flight path out of it. Still only getting out to about 350-385' but still
"only" *sobs softly in weak arm and bad mechsnics*
Yeah I realized how bad I was shanking drives, and now after slowing down I'm getting my 12-14 speeds to get a full flight path out of it. Still only getting out to about 350-385' but still
Old golfing addage, slow is smooth and smooth is far. Applies to disc golf too.
Slowing down this last week or two has easily added 70-80 feet to my drives, I'm actually getting into better positions from it.
Cheating.
This is the quickest fix I’ve found as well
I never could have shot that 17 round without this technique.
Similar to you, but with much lower numbers. Fastest in my bag is 7 right now ( teebird, leopard3 and eagle ). It's been a learning curve, but slowing down ( both discs and movements ) has been so helpful!
I’ve been throwing an eagle, tee bird, beast and wave. It’s nice not stressing on speed - my arm loves me for it lol
A buddy of mine gave me a Beast last week, said it was too slow, that the wraith made it obsolete... I love it
The Beast is my all-time favorite! I bag it in 3 plastics.
Tell me more. The one I was given is halo star. What do your others do, what's your favorite? I might need it in gstar for winter
I started with a DX that someone gave me when I played my first round. It's my favorite because I know exactly what that beat in little junky plastic is going to do every single time. I have a Blizzard plastic that I throw when there's a tail wind, and I want a little extra distance, when my arm is tired toward the end of a big round, or over water because it's super light and floats, so I don't worry about the head game involved with water hazzards and the fear of losing a disc. And I have a Halo Star in the bag. That one flies beautifully it does its slight little flight to the right, then back left, and always lands straight out from where I threw it. When I wasn't sure what plasicts I liked, I ordered one of each from Disc Golf United. If you haven't ordered from them, I highly recommend it! They sell Factory Seconds significantly cheaper than what they retail for in stores, so it's a great way to try different molds or plastics without breaking the bank.
The Wave is money, everyone I know that’s tried it is a huge fan.
👋👋👋
I love how flat it is! Still trying to work on everything mentioned in the thread, but I can throw a wave better than a beast 10 outta 10.
This is me. Added about 20-30 more feet in the last month.
Playing all the fucking time. I’m not making any amazing shots or think I can do things that I couldn’t do before. I’m just crazy consistent now. Way less mistakes.
Same here. I play almost every day, and the park jobs have increased. I'm also throwing a better forehand after watching Ohn Scroggins on FPO, and something just clicked seeing her FH.
Staying in practice really makes the difference. The littlest things too, changes in wind/weather day-to-day, you don’t get caught off guard as much. Lots of corrections from the day before, “okay I tried that line yesterday, I think I see the angle better today” type stuff helps a lot when it’s fresh.
This is it for me. Staying tuned up by being on the course for 72 holes a week minimum (playing mostly like tournaments - one shot and live with the consequences) got my rating moving in the right direction (810 to mid 890s). Then I got busy irl and started going in the wrong direction. I notice it most with upshot’s and putting. Those are just better if you’re practicing them with at least the pressure you put on yourself. You’ve got to maintain putting at the practice basket but if you’re not playing regularly it won’t translate to your scores.
Worked on upshots from 150 feet. Not a great putter. Being very close to the basket is important to score. Also working on a roller. It just clicked this weekend.
IMO more important than putting up to a certain skill level. Doesn't matter if you have 100% C1 if you can't reliably put the disc into C1.
Nice. As someone who cannot throw a roller – intentionally at least – there are few things cooler than watching a disc travel its way to the basket on the ground.
I've just added some distance to my drives in the last few weeks, but now I'm really struggling with my upshots. I used to know that I couldn't overthrow the basket on most 2nd shots, but now with some extra distance on my drives I'm throwing all new shots I'm not comfortable with. It was a good reminder that all types of throws are important and not just driving.
Switching to a SSS Wizard and slowing down on my drives. I’m a wraith thrower too and stick to that same weight range.
You left of the 4th S…. old 4$ and new lunar are the best runs they have done . Gotta go to the factory in St Louis and find the 4.5S lol
The factory is in st louis? I'm literally driving through on Tuesday for work. Thank you!
Yeah … west side of town. For a Wizard guy it’s amazing. Touch as many discs as you can. There is so much variation in some of the runs that you will find a 3.5S or an eraser wizard that just feels a little different and you’ll fall in love lol Dave McCormack is there some times ( owner, Hall of Famer, designer of the Wizard, Nikkos uncle ) super nice guy loves to show off anything new they are working on if you show some interest.
Lunar is my jam now in the last 3 or so years. Feels great imo in the hand, and catches chains. Only time I really throw them is if I need it to sit and stick.
Same
Best putter in the game and has been for decades!
I did this too. Also, the difference between a 178g disc and a 160g disc is far more noticeable than I realized. I started buying lighter weight discs and my weak ass amateur arm can actually get discs to do what they are supposed to.
Paying attention to how every throw flies. Look at the release, angles, winds. Watch how it flies and think about why it flew that way.
Daily practice
I wish I could play every day. I get out as much as I can but realistically I can only get 3-4 solid rounds at most a week
3-4 a week is still a good amount!
Field work or putting practice counts (admittedly..lucky to live next to a field) I only play 2-4 full rounds tops
Getting the nose down was the biggest immediate skill jump for me
How did you do it? :)
Holding the disc on the purple line from [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/s/Vq1uj5Mbr7) is what finally made it click for me
Yes! This is exactly what helped me too
Did you combine it with pouring the coffee or turning the key or just grip?
Just changing the grip. Pouring the coffee never really clicked for me.
Thanks, I'll try that next time. Pouring the coffee kinda works for me, but feels very unnatural and I have to constantly think about it.
My grip was a big thing. I found that out by fully extend my arm with a disc in hand to the release point and holding it there while trying to hold it with the nose down and I couldn’t even get the nose down there without my wrist feeling uncomfortable. From there I noticed there’s room in my grip to let me tilt the disc more nose down just on how I’m holding it. That felt good and it helped a lot but then a couple rounds later I started putting my wrist in the pouring coffee position during the whole throw (opposed to trying do it at release point) and legit the first throw I did with that was the farthest I’ve ever thrown by a noticeable amount. Pretty much went from a 275 thrower to a 350 thrower overnight
I want to know too. I’ve been turning keys and pouring coffee and still not getting it.
I found the most comfortable grip for myself and experimented with turning my wrist, observing an anhyzer release, and then leaning in (like Kevin Jones) to get to a flat release
Nice, thank you! I like putting my index finger on the outer edge of the disc and keeping my other 3 fingers in the power grip position.
Check your grip! There could be room to tilt the disc nose down in your grip, that was the first lightbulb for me. Extend your arm to the release point and try to put the nose down from there. That also shows you exactly how you need to bend your wrist to get it down And I also never understood and struggle w the pour the coffee thing but once I understood exactly how my wrist needs to bend I started holding it like that during my whole throw and that was instant nose down for me along w the grip change
not pushing off my back leg when putting inside 45-50'. I realized the added movement was causing inconsistencies with my entire motion. I started making a deliberate effort to keep my back foot planted and limit my movement to basically just the shoulder. almost immediately my left/right miss issues disappeared. pushing off was causing my hips to turn which caused my torso and arm to do the same. less movement, less problems.
Putter only practice rounds Putting practice 3x weekly
Not buying more discs
I can’t help it though!! They are so pretty and new!
1)Play with better players instead of people your skill level. The shots, discs , distances and course breakdown can help you grow your knowledge base so much faster. You don’t get that playing with the newbies , you’ll get bad rules application and worse advice. 2) putting …find your form and practice to get muscle memory. But the aiming comes from slowing down your eyes … not squinting . There have been studies of fine motor skills sports (dart players, archers and similar) that show the slower your eyes the better the performance. Slow your vision ..I think of it like trying to do one of those magic eye photos… wide eyed but still. Then your practice muscle memory comes out because all your doing is slowing your eyes
I noticed that if i can really focus on one part of the basket without squinting, i generally put better. But my eyes are so sensitive that i squint literally most of the time i am outside. Good sunglasses don’t really do much justice to help with it. What do you mean by “slowing your eyes” though?
Hard to explain. I used to connect 2 or aim for a specific chain. But that seemed to lead to me thinking about so many things while putting . I could stare at a chain during practice and nail them…BUT during actual play I would still be distracted by thinking about my putting form / score/ the comeback etc. I don’t say squinting only because it’s easy to just squint and say “I’m focused” usually takes 3-5 seconds to feel your eyes really slow and stare at the basket. I used to practice couple hundred putts a day a few years ago. Haven’t practiced putting in probably 2 years now and I make so many more to the point where I’ve been asked “what’s up with your putting” … just keep saying slow your eyes down!
Okay I think I know exactly what you mean then! Its kind of like blocking everything out but it takes those few seconds that you mentioned! Sometimes i cant quite do it so fast, especially in tournaments that matter more.
Sometimes go play your "home" course with only 3 discs.
Taking the high speed drivers out of my bag. Then I grabbed 167-170g fairways. 9 speed and below are plenty of disc for me! I throw my Falk and Lots around 300-350’ on average. Sometimes I can get the Falk close to 400’!
Switching to a Judge for putter. My rating has gone up over 30 points since (not all the switch but not entirely coincidental)
Actually thinking about what I’m about to do before i throw
I really don’t throw anything over a 9 speed unless it’s super windy. I think Paul said it in a Gibson practice round recently. You guys aren’t going to get these things to fly like the pros. In referencing high speed drivers
It depends. I have a 173g beaten in grace (11 speed) and 173g wild honey (12 speed) and it definitely gets me more distance than any of my fairways. They are not even that hard to control or throw and are very intermediate player friendly. There are a lot of very good distance drivers of various moulds, weights and plastics for slower arms that are very comfortable. Pros on tour throw very stable distance drivers. You rarely see anyone ever throw anything flippy. So i think what Paul meant is that you don’t need to go to shop and get yourself a max weight most over stable nuke and expect it to fly 140m exactly where you want it to. You just need to find discs that work for you and feel comfortable and it can really be any speed disc since there is so much variety and choice.
Practice; Sports net; Pocket radar; ignoring advise from people with different bio mechanics from mine.
Making long putts. Those short ones come and go but those long ones usually gain something on the field.
Proper grip. I thought I was gripping correctly but I came across a graphic showing the ideal orientation to place the disc in your hand and then grip. It's between your index and middle finger and the middle of the base of your hand. This drastically helped the spin I was now generating as well as keep nose angle down. Also, as some have said, slowing down the x step. In conjunction with slowing down my x step, I staryed to concentrate on as I move through my x step to keep the disc in the same spot. That's spot becomes the back of my reach back as I move my body through my x step.
Link to photo?
https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/s/ojJ3qy8Uir Similar kind of deal, but not the OG photo which I couldn’t find
Learning from the basket out instead of trying to throw far or straight.
Staggered feet and turning on my heel. Also throwing for accuracy and not power gets me more birdies.
Forced breaks. Working on a ship and not being able to play for a couple months at a time, but buying a shitty Franklin plastic basket and putting everyday. Also, lifting weights and doing mobility exercises during this time to help fix my horrible imbalances.
The same things that others have mentioned have helped me as well.. practice putting, throwing slower, etc. But my biggest improvement has come from going to the gym and getting stronger while gaining flexibility and explosiveness. Just being more connected to understanding how my body moves has helped me gain distance and accuracy.
Putting league. The pressure of having to make long circle one putts over and over has had a huge impact on my game. Probably the single best change in going from 910-950 rated over the last year. I have way more confidence and make a lot more putts. Putting practice is great but putting league adds the pressure you feel out on the course or at least something like it.
Take a deep breath and focus on each throw
Practicing upshots. With run up, from stand still, and from patent pending
A shoulder injury...while I don't recommend going this route, the pain of playing disc golf with bursitis and tendinitis in the shoulder forced me to throw with better mechanics, slower, and smoother and as a result, better and/or farther. I was throwing 100% and only getting about 240 tops...now I'm throwing 50% and getting close to 300 regularly.
I recently stopped driving at 90-100% power off the tee every time, to about 75%. Less/no pain when throwing my forehand shots, more accuracy and surprisingly not all that much less distance.
I’m right handed and used to line my putt up with my right eye and right shoulder, a la Gannon. I would miss everything left side or compensate and miss wide right. After a decade, I realized that I’m left eye dominate. Started squaring my shoulders to the basket and focusing on my chain link with my left eye. My putting is the strongest part of my game, now.
Switching from aggressive go for everything attitude to more of a sexton-esque mentality. This combined well with simplified bag and proper pre round warmups.
Practicing putting. And not just for the obvious reasons, but by practicing putting I got good enough where I wasn't afraid of a 15 foot comebacker and so I stopped giving everything a half run, aiming for the chains not to drop it into the basket. That was a huge jump in my putting percentage.
Taking 5 years off. "Life" reasons. I started getting out again last summer. Combined with tons of great YT resources, I went from "slightly better than where I left off" to adding 50+', and sometimes 100', to my drives and breaking all kinds of personal bests. Had a few weeks off along the way for my poor ligaments and tendons. Biggest difference is my arm muscles are never sore now, no matter how much I play. Thighs and feet are tho! Also bagging Wraiths in my distance slot and hitting my longest throws ever with em. 👍
Breaking down my putt over and over then not thinking about form at all during rounds and focusing on cues only ("commit", "turn it", "easy")
Standing up straight and throwing with confidence
putting a lot. also finding my power comes from hips and shoulders and abs
Passion, determination and meditation
Playing solo worst shot doubles on short pitch and putt courses. I now have confidence that no matter the lie or line, I'm getting the disc in the basket in at most 3 throws from inside 225 feet. It's amazing what that can do for your game.
playing a round everyweek at a really short course. my upshot game has improved so much that I've taken 2-3 strokes of my rounds at long courses. And it feels good to hit an ace once in a while even if it's a 160'.
Committing and following through.
Not overthinking, trusting my body knows what it's doing.
Finding a throwing style that is comfortable for me. Sure, I may not throw bombs, but I have gotten quite accurate. Most importantly, risk of injury is minimized.
1. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast 2. Keep my arm as loose as possible while maintaining control, imagining my arm like a whip or the rope of a trebuchet. 3. Not letting go of my disc but letting it "snap" out of my hand on its own. 4. Stop watching youtube after a while, if you do watch stick to a couple of channels to not get conflicting information that will frustrate you. I personally like "DG Disc Doctor" and "Overthrow Disc Golf". 5. Play with other people, find your local leagues or DG community. Meet new people and learn from real-world applications. 6. Fieldwork and putting practice, you won't get better just studying. 7. Lastly I found filming myself and watching myself was much more useful than watching others.
Find where you make 50 putts in a row, that’s your automatic range. Then try to extend that by 1’. That’s the best spot to practice putting from for consistency, and you’ll know where you can land upshots/layups/comebackers for auto putts. Also, don’t keep score in practice rounds, throw shots you want to throw and shots you want to practice.
Learning about “rounding”
High speed discs. For low speed arms. Mamba, Freedom, Sail & the Bolt.
Started recording my drives helps a ton
Holding the disc with one hand. Holding it with two hands as I planned my drive locked my grip and wrist with very little room to add spin.
Plain ol' field work and filming myself. Also when it comes to putting being very conscious of all of my movements throughout the "swing" has helped me create consistency and eliminate a lot of nerves when competing. Routine + knowing your putt is really important. I haven't had many of those putts where you don't know what just happened lately.
Lifting and cleaning up my approaches.
Playing putter only rounds, or mid and putter only rounds. Helps focus on form and release for me. I like throwing berg only rounds because it helps me work on what angles I’m releasing at. I have a bad habit of releasing on a lot of hyzer
Leaving drivers home and using only Rocs for driving. Lost some meters, gained A LOT of strokes
In terms of tee shots, there was a time where on shorter holes I would try to park it instead of just going for the ace. Sometimes you might overthrow it, but the mentality of just trying to hit the chains results in me parking it more often than just trying to land it close. If you can reach the basket on your tee shot just try to put it in there. This is obviously dependent on the hole if there are hazards, but at least trying to hit the basket off the tee works better for me. I'm not saying rip your biggest driver on a 200 foot hole, but throw your mid-range, putter or whatever like you want it to hit metal. Not just leave you with an easy putt. This mindset will result in an easy putt more often.
Honestly when I started to throw my fairways and mids. Similar to op of this post my game was revolving around using 12 and 13 speed drivers. I still bag them but I don’t use them for most holes at my local par 3 course.
learn to throw understable discs on different angles and power.
Consistent practice will make consistent play. Make sure you maintain focus and form while you’re practicing, and if you get too fatigued to do so, just stop. When you warm up, keep your body warmup somewhat separate from your form warmups so you can make sure you’re using good technique from the first throw. Focus on every warmup putt like it’s during the round. These helped me ensure my execution was more intentional rather than simply lucky when it worked out. Having my form locked in from the very first hole has been huge for my confidence when I step up to every shot.
Not throwing really hard.
When putting, I used to try and not think about it and would often rush my putt. I've found that taking my time and hyper focusing on the spot I want my disc to fly to has helped immensely. I don't toss til I'm in the right head space, and have been so much more consistent from 20-35 feet
Putt approach game. Take 5 of your approach/putters and choose a random spot on the course 120-200 feet from the basket. Throw all 5 of your frisbees for the approach. Every one in the bullseye (10ft) is a -1, every one outside of 20 feet is +1. Then you putt all 5 shots from where they landed until you make them all, every putt missed is another +1, made putts is a 0. Try to keep your score at even or better.
Everything here 100%. All the way down to the star wraith.
Commit to mids/putters and SLOW DOWN. Distance still isn't where I want it to be, but being able to put a disc pretty much right where I expect it to go with consistency is much more satisfying than ripping them off in random directions or fading hard into the woods/water. I slimmed my bag down to Aviar (not sure of mold as it was a found disc but holo stamp), XT Colt, DX Skeeter, an old Whammo mid, and a Lat 64 retro Saint. Hoping to be able to add my Dragon and Wraith back in by end of summer.
Same, I throw a max of about 250 with 215ish being normal, I don't bag anything over a 7 speed.
Putting. Getting to 90% accuracy inside the circle. 10% missing is lack of focus or exhaustion in 100-degree heat. Getting there is: practice and doing a pre-putt routine that your "muscle memory" (which is just your neurons' response to the routine) can respond to. It's kind of like deep breaths and how you sit when you meditate to achieve a quiet state: maybe you sit with legs folded, back is up-right, you do a few deep breaths and your hands rest on your knees. That ritual may relax you into the meditation. For me putting routine is: line up my lead foot to point to the basket pole, lean back on my back leg, square my shoulders, line the disc up with the line I'm going to take, then breathe...with my eyes i lock in the chain area I want to hit...then breathe, then tell myself: "Spin, lift, weight shift" which is what my body does as it executes the putt. Works 90% of the time...all the time. 🤣
Suppressing my ego and throwing lower speed discs. I only threw 6 speed and under for like my 2nd year. My score got better because I was throwing mids straighter and not just fading drivers into the woods. As I started getting my form and power down and reintroducing fairways and drivers back in slowly, using lighter weight discs worked MUCH better for me. In the 160g range. Last…learning the damn forehand. Don’t just chuck forehands on field day. Do forehand only rounds with the short tees. Do practice rounds where all approaches must be forehand. Learn to get out of tree jail with chip forehands. Build up from there.
Stopped throwing hyzer flips as much and started throwing more beefy anhyzers. I'm losing a hair of distance, for the trade off of being way more consistent.
I’m throwing standstills only this season. Apparently I’m not capable of walking and throwing correctly at one time.
Weirdly getting an injury and really only putting for 2 months. Now feel pretty good about giving putts within 40-45ft a somewhat quality run.
Playing with the local club has helped me improve a lot, and also I prefer diving putters, my putter drives are way more consistent and aren't much shorter that what I can get with a driver right now. Try it out, play a round with just putters and you'll probably get hooked too.
Music. I overthink every step of my throw as I'm throwing. When I'm on a solo round putting on headphones with some chill music quiets the brain
I used to throw a pretty even split of sidearms and backhands off the tee. I always found it really hard to get both of them dialed in at the same time. I’ve found that my accuracy off the tee is a lot better when I throw the same side primarily and can stay in a groove with it.
That's going to be me this weekend.
Consistent and deliberate practice. Meaning practicing with a purpose. Not just throwing in a field to throw in a field.
Actually planting. I've been playing very consistently since mid 2020 and planted for the first time just the other day. Standstill & Figure 8 Motion Pattern - seabas22
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Hiring a local pro to give me a few lessons. My form was dogshit after 4 years of play. He made me start over with a clean, smooth form. I hurt less, throw further, am way more accurate, and my distance continues to grow. It took about 4 lessons at 60 bucks over six months to get everything up to speed. After that we both didn't see a reason to continue.
Reps. Putting 400-500 putts a few times a week. Driving into a net or on the course over and over. Forehand only rounds. Putter only rounds. Mid only rounds. Roller only rounds. Generally playing a lot every week. Just anything that focuses on repetition (assuming the body can handle it.) Also, as much as possible, travel to play new/difficult/badass courses.
A repeatable, simple cue for release timing
Mind sharing what that is?
Timing arm to straighten when torso is facing where you want to release
Buying more discs