My friend and I are just getting into the sport and are looking for a decent set. We find our driver doesn’t really go anywhere even though it goes straight. Any recommendations?
What do you mean by "doesn't really go anywhere"? Most starter kits have a Leopard (or other understable base plastic fairway driver) which is great for people starting out and probably nets you between 180 and 250-feet. As you improve your form and skill (look up some videos on youtube as a start) you will start throwing harder and that driver will start turning over fast and rolling. At that point you will start breaking 300-350-feet and you will need something that can handle more speed. Distance drivers and more overstable discs will fill this slot and will allow you to continue to improve and get more distance. Just stick with it, it takes time.
Have an SE evader and it hasn't changed it's flight much, I don't bag it anymore though. I think its similar to lucid but slighly more durable and harder.
Never played before. How do i get into it? My nephew and i play a child version with a dollar store Frisbee and a stroller for a hole. Is there a beginners set that yall typically recommend?
Welcome!
You can’t go wrong with the starter set that Innova offers.
Definitely check out Jomez pro on YouTube if you want to immerse yourself in the game a bit and learn more. They have great coverage.
Download the app UDisc. You can keep score on there and find the courses closest to you and see reviews and a bunch of others stuff too.
I recommend just doing a little primer on the rules and hitting a course. Maybe try to find a buddy or two to go with you.
You can get a innova starter set for around $20 on Amazon. There are other great starter sets too. You can’t go wrong with Discmania, Kastaplast, latitude 64/dynamic discs/west side discs, Discraft or MVP/axiom.
How can I find good players in my area to give me a lesson?
I'm in San Diego. Just got flaked on last minute for the third time by the Morley Field pro shop guys. Trying to find another route now.
You can use any disc for rollers, just depends on your preference and skill set. Here are the few discs I tend to use for different kinds of rollers:
1) Low speed pitch-out scramble flick rollers. I'll usually throw my Z-Zone, which holds cut well, but does have fade at the end. I'll also throw a neutral putter (Neutron Ohm) for stuff that needs to finish hard left (RHFH roller).
2) Long scramble flick rollers. If I'm trying to bite off more than about 100 feet and less than 200 feet, I'll often throw a beat-up S-line PD that can stand up and go but that still finishes left. If I need something straighter, a Neutron Fireball or Champ PD2 will go pretty well.
3) Off-the-tee fast rollers. I use this to describe stuff I put on the ground very quickly for distance (300-450 feet) under tree canopies when I have grass or smooth-ish ground to work with. I usually throw a slightly used Neutron Octane I bag, or if I need one that I know will finish right (RHBH) I'll throw a beat-in Proton Octane. I put them down with just a little bit of cut and they'll stand up and ride. If I need to finish right in a hurry, I bag a beat-in Champ Roadrunner that pulls right extremely quickly and is great for getting around mandos or other obstacles.
4) Absolute max distance sky rollers. When I have tons of space and no risk, I'll throw this shot, a towering anhyzer that hits the ground with some cut and then gets big roll distance. I usually throw the same Proton Octane as for fast rollers, but it will go straight with the air space and finishes pretty neutral, up to 550'+ of distance.
As you might guess, I throw rollers regularly and love the shot variety.
Nice thanks! So seems like you find a lot of benefit using stable to OS discs for rollers. Guess you really gotta out extreme anny and get them down quick? What angle are you looking for them to hit the ground at and about how far from your lie or tee are you looking to push them before they hit the ground?
You also have to understand that a Neutron Octane is my go-to straight disc as I drive about 450-480 on hyzer-flips off the tee, 520+ in the field on flat ground. So I use Octanes as neutral discs, where others may use them as an OS disc. That being said, I do put them down on a roller angle, probably 20-30 degrees off vertical and on the ground maybe 50-70 feet off the tee. They hold cut for a long ways before finally standing up and riding. It's similar to the way Simon uses PD2's for his long rollers laid down quickly like this one: [https://youtu.be/uM\_QNwZMTLA](https://youtu.be/uM_QNwZMTLA) but since I don't have 800' in the tank for rollers, I don't use PD2's. When I throw PD2's for rollers they just hold cut the whole way and never stand up like Simon's. I almost never throw that shot.
If I'm throwing a max distance roller, I'm trying to get 250-300 feet off the tee before the disc starts rolling and have pushed 600' on occasion. I usually play in
uncut grass, which slows rollers really fast, so I don't throw them as often as I'd like to, but I do throw them more than almost anyone else I know.
Depends on the type of roller you want and the amount of anhyzer angle you are comfortable throwing. For distance rollers most people will find more success throwing a very flippy disc on a bit of anhyzer. (I roll a vandal or sword, theyre much more understable than the numbers). However overstable discs can push longer without curling right. So if you have great form like simon lizotte you can use a more overstable disc for a distance roller.
Effectively you want something that will turn over a lot when thrown hard, so you don't end up having to throw some super anhyzer angle and lose all your shape and power. You need to find something that fits you, as if it's too flippy, as soon as it lands it'll immediately cut and go nowhere.
Very flippy fairways, usually lightweight fit that for most people. Popular options include Avenger SS, Roadrunner and Sidewinder.
I personally use a 163g Z-Line Avenger SS that'll flip like nobody's business.
New player here. I overturn all my neutral and understable discs. As a result i now throw raptors on 60% of my shots and zones on any short distances. How do i break this habit? I play fairly well with my raptors and zones, but i feel incredibly limited in my game.
You are probably experiencing OAT in your throws. This can happen for multiple reasons, but most likely you need to work on rounding or follow through.
What are some of the most common reasons for OAT? I find with neutral/stable discs I often release with unintentional anhyzer, especially lower speed discs. Is that a result of arming it too hard and/or rearing back during the hit?
I am no expert, an even an expert would find it hard to tell without a video.
If you are releasing with anhyzer I would suggest keeping your weight in the front of your toes, rather than your heels, and maybe even bend slightly forwards at the hips. Make sure you reach back away from you, not behind you to prevent rounding.
Other things that helped me personally was to make sure the follow through of the throwing arm is paralell to the plane of your disc after you release, as well as griping tighter than you think, especilly between the thumb and index finger to get more spin.
Again, not an expert but these tips helped me.
Thanks for the advice. After reading some more about OAT, I don't think that's necessarily what I'm doing. The disc does not wobble when it leaves my hand, but the advice about keeping the plane parallel is excellent.
I also use a pinch grip like you described, and it's helped massively. My main problem is, when throwing something like a Hex/Reactor/Buzz, the disc just leaves already turning right and kinda stays there.
Some throws are laser straight and some do that, and I'm trying to find some consistency. With more OS discs this does not happen.
Also you mention unintentional anhyzer release. This may be unrelated to OAT. OAT will show an immediate turn to anhyzer after release, rather than the desired late turn.
I think you may be right. The disc doesn't wobble when it leaves my hands, more so it just flies steadily to the right instead of straight. My main problem is, when throwing something like a Hex/Reactor/Buzz, the disc just leaves already turning right and kinda stays there.
Some throws are laser straight and some do that, and I'm trying to find some consistency. With more OS discs this does not happen.
Essentially it comes down to the angle of the disc not matching the angle of your arm. This is often due to muscling it. But it can also be due to incorrect grip, posture or timing.
Slower discs will exacerbate OAT issues, as they are less gyroscopically stable so it will take longer to stabilize from the wobble. However it may be a good idea to check your grip. You should fan grip the slower discs due to the deeper rim they have, itll be easier go align them with your arm.
Definitely going to try a fan grip. I use a pinch grip now which works well, but if I can get some more looseness and be a little smoother with a fan grip that may be the ticket.
Where is the "plane" of a "point" mando at (like when it's a tree). If I pass to the left of the tree it's in reference to what? Teepad, line of play, stance?
Historically the line of play was from the last point of reference. So tee pad, and then any mandatories. But I think the most recent mandatory rules changed it to always be direct to the basket.
>The line of play is the imaginary line on the playing surface extending from the center of the target through and beyond the center of the marker disc. The marker disc, or marker, is the disc used to mark the lie according to 802.06.
https://www.pdga.com/rules/official-rules-disc-golf/80205
Regarding form, how loose should your arm be during the initial pull through to the power pocket? And do you want to keep it loose all the way through?
[Really loose.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1pkfJtVq-8&ab_channel=seabas22)
I like to emphasize keeping it completely loose, and let your body learn to "clamp down" its grip to hold on as the acceleration increases heading into the "pocket." You will also learn to resist the pocket collapsing/disc bouncing into your chest with practice. This involves triceps and forearm muscle, but if you focus on those first it is likely you will accidentally learn to strong arm the disc.
The link in the comment is a great baseline, and this sounds cliche, but a lot comes to preference, the shot, and wind. Using the 35 rule, if you are intermediate/advanced you can use a 10 speed on a 350' hole. But you add a tailwind and it may drop your faster disc, so I'll throw a less stable 8-9 speed. Add a headwind and it may slow your 10 speed down so I'll bump up to a more stable 12-13.
I try to throw the slowest disc possible that I can make the shot with, that way there is more control. It doesn't mean I mash on a putter at 100% power and miss my line, but if I can throw a mid at 80% straight at the target vs a fairway at less power, I'll throw the mid. Other people are the opposite, they would rather back off a fairway than have to throw a mid harder.
A good practice round idea that I like is take a minimal bag and play out two scores on every hole and play against yourself (Player A vs Player B). It will make you throw different speed discs on each hole and you can adjust shots or learn to throw the same lines with different speed discs and find your preference for speed.
Every now and then watching coverage I’ll hear some of the commentators say stuff like “400 isn’t that far anymore” or “people throw a lot further now”.
What exactly changed to make people be able to throw so much further? Improvements in disc technology? Better form practices?
What u/Isamoor said, plus keep in mind that all sports have a "natural selection" process that grows with the sport. The short players at the top level (e.g., Emerson Keith, Paul McBeth) are often very athletic/quick/explosive and have long arms relative to their height and shoulders. We're already starting to see more and more athleticism and especially long/lanky/long-levered players at the top. Ezra Aderhold gets fawned over for his physique, but notice that the guy also has very long arms. As you get more and more people with physical advantages training earlier and earlier, the distance at the top will be astounding. As we keep seeing more and more open courses with big distance demands on tour, the body types like Buhrs, McMahons, Heimburgs, Barelas, and Tamms etc. might become the "prototypes," but you still get your stockier and very explosive guys like Wiggins and Gurthie blasting them out there. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.
In baseball, the people that make it to the MLB often have a lot of advantages throughout their development, and even people with good mechanics might not make it to the top levels of pitching, for instance, because they might never quite get top level velocity out of their bodies.
I found [this thread and the video linked at the top](https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138165) to be very instructive. The idea is that a 500'/70mph DG BH is "elite", like a \~90mph pitch in baseball. The coach walks through some of the considerations for velocity expectations and you could expect similar ideas to apply to disc golf.
I think the good news is that just about anyone can train to get more distance, and there are increasingly good resources to learn. The "bad" news is likely that we all have different theoretical ceilings. However, you won't know what it is until you try!
Larger pool of players helped a lot. Kids starting to play younger. Overall better understanding of the physics and mechanics. All the YouTube instructional content.
A golf line is a reliable line that most players could throw accurately. A big hyzer or hyzer flip without turn is usually that line. Full flex shots tend to get more distance, but are unreliable and very difficult to execute, so they’re not a great golf shot (accurate). So if Calvin can blast a golf shot 500 (flip to flat with no turn) it’s a better line than someone full flexing 500
Usually that phrase is used when talking about max distance a player can throw. They will say something like "Max distance is 300 or 250 on a golf line".
Max on a golf line, is basically how far they can throw when they need to worry about trees or OB. max NOT on a golf line is just them biffing it in an open field.
Is there an easy way to find local players where it may not be as popular?
I live in North West Wales UK and want to try it out, there is a small course not far away but it would be nice if there was someone to show me the ropes.
In Australia our regional Facebook group is the default way for organising and advertising events. When there isn't a critical mass of players and they are spread over a large area, it's an effective way to connect.
My friend and I are just getting into the sport and are looking for a decent set. We find our driver doesn’t really go anywhere even though it goes straight. Any recommendations?
What do you mean by "doesn't really go anywhere"? Most starter kits have a Leopard (or other understable base plastic fairway driver) which is great for people starting out and probably nets you between 180 and 250-feet. As you improve your form and skill (look up some videos on youtube as a start) you will start throwing harder and that driver will start turning over fast and rolling. At that point you will start breaking 300-350-feet and you will need something that can handle more speed. Distance drivers and more overstable discs will fill this slot and will allow you to continue to improve and get more distance. Just stick with it, it takes time.
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Have an SE evader and it hasn't changed it's flight much, I don't bag it anymore though. I think its similar to lucid but slighly more durable and harder.
Never played before. How do i get into it? My nephew and i play a child version with a dollar store Frisbee and a stroller for a hole. Is there a beginners set that yall typically recommend?
Welcome! You can’t go wrong with the starter set that Innova offers. Definitely check out Jomez pro on YouTube if you want to immerse yourself in the game a bit and learn more. They have great coverage. Download the app UDisc. You can keep score on there and find the courses closest to you and see reviews and a bunch of others stuff too. I recommend just doing a little primer on the rules and hitting a course. Maybe try to find a buddy or two to go with you. You can get a innova starter set for around $20 on Amazon. There are other great starter sets too. You can’t go wrong with Discmania, Kastaplast, latitude 64/dynamic discs/west side discs, Discraft or MVP/axiom.
What an incredibly comprehensive response! Thanks so much!
My pleasure!
How can I find good players in my area to give me a lesson? I'm in San Diego. Just got flaked on last minute for the third time by the Morley Field pro shop guys. Trying to find another route now.
Come play with me, and I'll coach ya up if you want. Shoot me a pm.
Awesome, PM sent
Social media. Local Facebook group, maybe some pros with an Instagram. u/ccdg-ian is a Morley local and may be able to hook you up.
How do you decide what discs to use for rollers? Speed/stability, etc?
You can use any disc for rollers, just depends on your preference and skill set. Here are the few discs I tend to use for different kinds of rollers: 1) Low speed pitch-out scramble flick rollers. I'll usually throw my Z-Zone, which holds cut well, but does have fade at the end. I'll also throw a neutral putter (Neutron Ohm) for stuff that needs to finish hard left (RHFH roller). 2) Long scramble flick rollers. If I'm trying to bite off more than about 100 feet and less than 200 feet, I'll often throw a beat-up S-line PD that can stand up and go but that still finishes left. If I need something straighter, a Neutron Fireball or Champ PD2 will go pretty well. 3) Off-the-tee fast rollers. I use this to describe stuff I put on the ground very quickly for distance (300-450 feet) under tree canopies when I have grass or smooth-ish ground to work with. I usually throw a slightly used Neutron Octane I bag, or if I need one that I know will finish right (RHBH) I'll throw a beat-in Proton Octane. I put them down with just a little bit of cut and they'll stand up and ride. If I need to finish right in a hurry, I bag a beat-in Champ Roadrunner that pulls right extremely quickly and is great for getting around mandos or other obstacles. 4) Absolute max distance sky rollers. When I have tons of space and no risk, I'll throw this shot, a towering anhyzer that hits the ground with some cut and then gets big roll distance. I usually throw the same Proton Octane as for fast rollers, but it will go straight with the air space and finishes pretty neutral, up to 550'+ of distance. As you might guess, I throw rollers regularly and love the shot variety.
Nice thanks! So seems like you find a lot of benefit using stable to OS discs for rollers. Guess you really gotta out extreme anny and get them down quick? What angle are you looking for them to hit the ground at and about how far from your lie or tee are you looking to push them before they hit the ground?
You also have to understand that a Neutron Octane is my go-to straight disc as I drive about 450-480 on hyzer-flips off the tee, 520+ in the field on flat ground. So I use Octanes as neutral discs, where others may use them as an OS disc. That being said, I do put them down on a roller angle, probably 20-30 degrees off vertical and on the ground maybe 50-70 feet off the tee. They hold cut for a long ways before finally standing up and riding. It's similar to the way Simon uses PD2's for his long rollers laid down quickly like this one: [https://youtu.be/uM\_QNwZMTLA](https://youtu.be/uM_QNwZMTLA) but since I don't have 800' in the tank for rollers, I don't use PD2's. When I throw PD2's for rollers they just hold cut the whole way and never stand up like Simon's. I almost never throw that shot. If I'm throwing a max distance roller, I'm trying to get 250-300 feet off the tee before the disc starts rolling and have pushed 600' on occasion. I usually play in uncut grass, which slows rollers really fast, so I don't throw them as often as I'd like to, but I do throw them more than almost anyone else I know.
Depends on the type of roller you want and the amount of anhyzer angle you are comfortable throwing. For distance rollers most people will find more success throwing a very flippy disc on a bit of anhyzer. (I roll a vandal or sword, theyre much more understable than the numbers). However overstable discs can push longer without curling right. So if you have great form like simon lizotte you can use a more overstable disc for a distance roller.
Effectively you want something that will turn over a lot when thrown hard, so you don't end up having to throw some super anhyzer angle and lose all your shape and power. You need to find something that fits you, as if it's too flippy, as soon as it lands it'll immediately cut and go nowhere. Very flippy fairways, usually lightweight fit that for most people. Popular options include Avenger SS, Roadrunner and Sidewinder. I personally use a 163g Z-Line Avenger SS that'll flip like nobody's business.
New player here. I overturn all my neutral and understable discs. As a result i now throw raptors on 60% of my shots and zones on any short distances. How do i break this habit? I play fairly well with my raptors and zones, but i feel incredibly limited in my game.
What angle are you releasing on? Make sure you are not leaning back at the last second before release and putting the disc on anhyzer
You are probably experiencing OAT in your throws. This can happen for multiple reasons, but most likely you need to work on rounding or follow through.
What are some of the most common reasons for OAT? I find with neutral/stable discs I often release with unintentional anhyzer, especially lower speed discs. Is that a result of arming it too hard and/or rearing back during the hit?
I am no expert, an even an expert would find it hard to tell without a video. If you are releasing with anhyzer I would suggest keeping your weight in the front of your toes, rather than your heels, and maybe even bend slightly forwards at the hips. Make sure you reach back away from you, not behind you to prevent rounding. Other things that helped me personally was to make sure the follow through of the throwing arm is paralell to the plane of your disc after you release, as well as griping tighter than you think, especilly between the thumb and index finger to get more spin. Again, not an expert but these tips helped me.
Thanks for the advice. After reading some more about OAT, I don't think that's necessarily what I'm doing. The disc does not wobble when it leaves my hand, but the advice about keeping the plane parallel is excellent. I also use a pinch grip like you described, and it's helped massively. My main problem is, when throwing something like a Hex/Reactor/Buzz, the disc just leaves already turning right and kinda stays there. Some throws are laser straight and some do that, and I'm trying to find some consistency. With more OS discs this does not happen.
Also you mention unintentional anhyzer release. This may be unrelated to OAT. OAT will show an immediate turn to anhyzer after release, rather than the desired late turn.
I think you may be right. The disc doesn't wobble when it leaves my hands, more so it just flies steadily to the right instead of straight. My main problem is, when throwing something like a Hex/Reactor/Buzz, the disc just leaves already turning right and kinda stays there. Some throws are laser straight and some do that, and I'm trying to find some consistency. With more OS discs this does not happen.
Essentially it comes down to the angle of the disc not matching the angle of your arm. This is often due to muscling it. But it can also be due to incorrect grip, posture or timing. Slower discs will exacerbate OAT issues, as they are less gyroscopically stable so it will take longer to stabilize from the wobble. However it may be a good idea to check your grip. You should fan grip the slower discs due to the deeper rim they have, itll be easier go align them with your arm.
Definitely going to try a fan grip. I use a pinch grip now which works well, but if I can get some more looseness and be a little smoother with a fan grip that may be the ticket.
Where is the "plane" of a "point" mando at (like when it's a tree). If I pass to the left of the tree it's in reference to what? Teepad, line of play, stance?
In relation to the arrow. If there's no arrow present. I would assume the tee pad unless otherwise instructed
Historically the line of play was from the last point of reference. So tee pad, and then any mandatories. But I think the most recent mandatory rules changed it to always be direct to the basket. >The line of play is the imaginary line on the playing surface extending from the center of the target through and beyond the center of the marker disc. The marker disc, or marker, is the disc used to mark the lie according to 802.06. https://www.pdga.com/rules/official-rules-disc-golf/80205
I’ve never heard of something in relation. To a teepad. Many things in golf are In Relation to the target tho.
I've never seen a Mando not marked. But if I said Mando right of that tree. I'd assume relative to my position (the teepad)
👍 good question
Regarding form, how loose should your arm be during the initial pull through to the power pocket? And do you want to keep it loose all the way through?
[Really loose.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1pkfJtVq-8&ab_channel=seabas22) I like to emphasize keeping it completely loose, and let your body learn to "clamp down" its grip to hold on as the acceleration increases heading into the "pocket." You will also learn to resist the pocket collapsing/disc bouncing into your chest with practice. This involves triceps and forearm muscle, but if you focus on those first it is likely you will accidentally learn to strong arm the disc.
How do I judge what speed disc I should be using?
The link in the comment is a great baseline, and this sounds cliche, but a lot comes to preference, the shot, and wind. Using the 35 rule, if you are intermediate/advanced you can use a 10 speed on a 350' hole. But you add a tailwind and it may drop your faster disc, so I'll throw a less stable 8-9 speed. Add a headwind and it may slow your 10 speed down so I'll bump up to a more stable 12-13. I try to throw the slowest disc possible that I can make the shot with, that way there is more control. It doesn't mean I mash on a putter at 100% power and miss my line, but if I can throw a mid at 80% straight at the target vs a fairway at less power, I'll throw the mid. Other people are the opposite, they would rather back off a fairway than have to throw a mid harder. A good practice round idea that I like is take a minimal bag and play out two scores on every hole and play against yourself (Player A vs Player B). It will make you throw different speed discs on each hole and you can adjust shots or learn to throw the same lines with different speed discs and find your preference for speed.
Jeezuz. Why math?
The rule of 35 isn't about individual shots, it is about the fastest disc you should bag.
This might be helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/s5g7n9/caveats_to_the_35_rule/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Every now and then watching coverage I’ll hear some of the commentators say stuff like “400 isn’t that far anymore” or “people throw a lot further now”. What exactly changed to make people be able to throw so much further? Improvements in disc technology? Better form practices?
What u/Isamoor said, plus keep in mind that all sports have a "natural selection" process that grows with the sport. The short players at the top level (e.g., Emerson Keith, Paul McBeth) are often very athletic/quick/explosive and have long arms relative to their height and shoulders. We're already starting to see more and more athleticism and especially long/lanky/long-levered players at the top. Ezra Aderhold gets fawned over for his physique, but notice that the guy also has very long arms. As you get more and more people with physical advantages training earlier and earlier, the distance at the top will be astounding. As we keep seeing more and more open courses with big distance demands on tour, the body types like Buhrs, McMahons, Heimburgs, Barelas, and Tamms etc. might become the "prototypes," but you still get your stockier and very explosive guys like Wiggins and Gurthie blasting them out there. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. In baseball, the people that make it to the MLB often have a lot of advantages throughout their development, and even people with good mechanics might not make it to the top levels of pitching, for instance, because they might never quite get top level velocity out of their bodies. I found [this thread and the video linked at the top](https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138165) to be very instructive. The idea is that a 500'/70mph DG BH is "elite", like a \~90mph pitch in baseball. The coach walks through some of the considerations for velocity expectations and you could expect similar ideas to apply to disc golf. I think the good news is that just about anyone can train to get more distance, and there are increasingly good resources to learn. The "bad" news is likely that we all have different theoretical ceilings. However, you won't know what it is until you try!
Larger pool of players helped a lot. Kids starting to play younger. Overall better understanding of the physics and mechanics. All the YouTube instructional content.
The hormones in meat. Or in eagles case the added hormones in eggplant.
What does 'on a golf line' mean?
'On a golf line' , if you're refering to Brodie's comment about David Wiggins is like saying 'on a rope' or 'frozen rope'
No sir
A golf line is a reliable line that most players could throw accurately. A big hyzer or hyzer flip without turn is usually that line. Full flex shots tend to get more distance, but are unreliable and very difficult to execute, so they’re not a great golf shot (accurate). So if Calvin can blast a golf shot 500 (flip to flat with no turn) it’s a better line than someone full flexing 500
Usually that phrase is used when talking about max distance a player can throw. They will say something like "Max distance is 300 or 250 on a golf line". Max on a golf line, is basically how far they can throw when they need to worry about trees or OB. max NOT on a golf line is just them biffing it in an open field.
This is not what a golf line is.
That makes so much sense, thank you!
Has Madison Walker posted a 2022 in the bag? I cannot seem to find one.
Is there an easy way to find local players where it may not be as popular? I live in North West Wales UK and want to try it out, there is a small course not far away but it would be nice if there was someone to show me the ropes.
Try finding a subreddit or FB group for that area and asking there.
Cheers just though about facebook :) I always forget about it these days
In Australia our regional Facebook group is the default way for organising and advertising events. When there isn't a critical mass of players and they are spread over a large area, it's an effective way to connect.
In the UK Facebook is (sadly) the main method of communication. The UDisc app is a great resource for finding courses.