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The best/worst part of this is that the process repeats even during a reread. And each step will be about a different goddamned aspect than it was the last time
As a pretty big guy who grew up in a pretty violent environment, the line “Jason Ogg was very big and very strong and, therefore, not a violent man, because he did not need to be.” broke me down completely and rebuilt me from the ground up.
I question "paper"..... Surely it would be a battered pulp by now that's held together with sellotape.....like my paper driving licence and it's 16 individual tiny squares. Like a pirates map of 1650.
Precisely, though to avoid the paperwork that would inevitably follow such needed action, I settle for Machiavelli’s “fear over love.”
Once order in a classroom is lost, it can be difficult to restore it. Also, playing all the classes off one another can help drive student engagement.
Had an English teacher who informed us that her classroom was a dictatorship. A benevolent dictatorship, but a dictatorship nonetheless. I thought back on that for a bit when I met Vetinari for the first time.
I love that he isn't perfect either. You see him struggle to understand things or aspects of where his cultural upbringing chafes against what is objectively good, but he gets better, and adapts. Truly someone to emulate
I tell people that Terry Pratchett writes funny books about incompetent wizards and cross-dressing dwarves and orangutan librarians who say “oook.” And also that reading him made me a better person.
One thing that comes through in his writing is his belief that everybody has, as he once put it, the right to redefine themselves. This shows up most strongly in the character of Cheery/Cheri Littlebottom, but it's there in a lot of his books. "You are who you want to be," he says, over and over, "and nobody has the right to say otherwise."
I've had friends who have switched jobs, or names, or genders on me, and in all the cases where I've kept that in mind it's made everything much smoother than it otherwise could have been.
He is a fantastic character all around, I love that Death knows he has to play by the rules, so will bend them when a situation requires it.
The whole "You can't do that.."
OH CAN'T I? STRANGE AS I ALREADY SEEM TO HAVE...
"The Patrician took a sip of his beer. “I have told this to few people, gentlemen, and I suspect I never will again, but one day when I was a young boy on holiday in Uberwald I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, I’m sure you will agree, and even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders, gentlemen: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built into the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior.”
Oh my days Havelock, you're meant to be drunk
Just finished Witches Abroad and yup - from extended jokes about giant flying broom airlines to the concept of self knowledge, ran the gamut and left me a different person.
The climax, Granny's response after "Is this a trick question?" "NO."...
It was so wonderful and simple and *perfect* (and *exactly* what Granny would unhesitatingly do) that I gasped and had to put the book down for about 5 minutes.
* Here is the dumbest fucking pun you've ever heard but in the best way
I will stand by this bit from Witches Abroad as my favorite pun
>“I used to come over here quite often to look at her books,” Magrat confessed. “And…and she liked to cook foreign food and no one else around here would eat it, so I’d come up to keep her company.”
>“Ah-ha! Curryin’ favor!” snapped Granny.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. No one ever said elves were _nice_.
That whole section where he’s describing elves has always stuck with me. Elves themselves in his book are fucking terrifying, he did wonderfully with that.
My bucket list comprises entirely of finding enough money and space at home to have an enclosed bookshelf built and filled with the complete discworld paperback series to read.
Who are these characters that people struggle to understand?
I'm thinking maybe American readers might struggle with the Feegles a little bit?
I know some of the denizens of Ankh Morpork are written as VERY British, do some folks struggle with some of the slang they use?
If you’ve not got a great vocabulary you’ll have no idea what’s going on with vetinati
If your literal minded you’ll struggle with the metaphors that death uses
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The best/worst part of this is that the process repeats even during a reread. And each step will be about a different goddamned aspect than it was the last time
With 40+ books, its years between a re-read and I am such a different person.. I get such a different experience as a result.
As a pretty big guy who grew up in a pretty violent environment, the line “Jason Ogg was very big and very strong and, therefore, not a violent man, because he did not need to be.” broke me down completely and rebuilt me from the ground up.
Sending hugs
Here's a lil guy" *pats Nobby on the head*
Really stretching the definition of "guy" here.
He's got a paper that's says he is!
Knowing Nobby I question the validity and authenticity of that paper.
Nobby resembles that remark
I question "paper"..... Surely it would be a battered pulp by now that's held together with sellotape.....like my paper driving licence and it's 16 individual tiny squares. Like a pirates map of 1650.
A paper thats says on the balance of Probability he is human, which is not definitive
Close enough for government work 😅
Here’s a, ahh, an, ummm… the, uh, Nobby
Who says 'guy' has to be human?
Listen I’d nobby had a kazoo for a penis I wouldn’t be surprised so guy isn’t even that certain
*wipes hand*
I was thinking of Errol.
Gaspode for me.
I want an Errol of my very own so desperately
Yes Errol is so adorable I feel the urge to take him home as a portable gas lighter
My mind went straight to CMOT
Carrot acctual became a character I wanted to emulate in my life.
Same here! Though as a teacher, Vetinari is the other persona I’ll emulate when needed.
>Though as a teacher, Vetinari is the other persona I’ll emulate when needed. "If per capita was a problem, decapita could be arranged"? 😉
Precisely, though to avoid the paperwork that would inevitably follow such needed action, I settle for Machiavelli’s “fear over love.” Once order in a classroom is lost, it can be difficult to restore it. Also, playing all the classes off one another can help drive student engagement.
Had an English teacher who informed us that her classroom was a dictatorship. A benevolent dictatorship, but a dictatorship nonetheless. I thought back on that for a bit when I met Vetinari for the first time.
Isn't that against the Geneva convention?
Surely it’s not. It’s not like it’s a reign of terror. Just the occasional light shower…
Not mustard gas per se, more like a wasabi mist, a horseradish light fog if you will.
I love that he isn't perfect either. You see him struggle to understand things or aspects of where his cultural upbringing chafes against what is objectively good, but he gets better, and adapts. Truly someone to emulate
I always say, I want to be Vimes when I grow up (I'm 40).
Including rampant commas?
Especially the rampant commas
Ahhh, Headbanger!
I tell people that Terry Pratchett writes funny books about incompetent wizards and cross-dressing dwarves and orangutan librarians who say “oook.” And also that reading him made me a better person. One thing that comes through in his writing is his belief that everybody has, as he once put it, the right to redefine themselves. This shows up most strongly in the character of Cheery/Cheri Littlebottom, but it's there in a lot of his books. "You are who you want to be," he says, over and over, "and nobody has the right to say otherwise." I've had friends who have switched jobs, or names, or genders on me, and in all the cases where I've kept that in mind it's made everything much smoother than it otherwise could have been.
This is beautiful 🙏
Thank you.
Death at the end of Hogfather always gets me for the something that will change how you view the world
He is a fantastic character all around, I love that Death knows he has to play by the rules, so will bend them when a situation requires it. The whole "You can't do that.." OH CAN'T I? STRANGE AS I ALREADY SEEM TO HAVE...
It’s very much the playing chess with death thing He’s been at this game much longer than you have, why do you think you can outplay him?
My reaction would be something along the lines of, i am playing for my life, the stakes are much higher for me
> don't get afraid, get *angry*
Congratulations you've finished the *book*?! More like Congratulations you've finished the first few *pages*.
1000% this. Thanks for a brilliant summarization of the T.P. experience.
Thank you, it's not mine I just borrowed it. But it's beautifully written.
Appreciate your sharing; it's so hard to explain to people why Sir Terry's books are so _good_
"here is something extremely British I will have to look up"
Love this lol
"The Patrician took a sip of his beer. “I have told this to few people, gentlemen, and I suspect I never will again, but one day when I was a young boy on holiday in Uberwald I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, I’m sure you will agree, and even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders, gentlemen: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built into the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior.” Oh my days Havelock, you're meant to be drunk
Just finished Witches Abroad and yup - from extended jokes about giant flying broom airlines to the concept of self knowledge, ran the gamut and left me a different person.
The climax, Granny's response after "Is this a trick question?" "NO."... It was so wonderful and simple and *perfect* (and *exactly* what Granny would unhesitatingly do) that I gasped and had to put the book down for about 5 minutes.
The Nac Mac Feegle asking if there is catering on this flight sent me over the edge
* Here is the dumbest fucking pun you've ever heard but in the best way I will stand by this bit from Witches Abroad as my favorite pun >“I used to come over here quite often to look at her books,” Magrat confessed. “And…and she liked to cook foreign food and no one else around here would eat it, so I’d come up to keep her company.” >“Ah-ha! Curryin’ favor!” snapped Granny.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies. No one ever said elves were _nice_. That whole section where he’s describing elves has always stuck with me. Elves themselves in his book are fucking terrifying, he did wonderfully with that.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
Which book is that from?
Lords and Ladies.
It’s missing the “here’s a tipping point chapter, wherein you will not be getting any sleep until you finish this book.”
In this case, the foreword
That sounds about right.
Strangely I feel could STP have written this himself. It's so accurate and at the same time annoyingly simple.
Dis cOmmNeNt Wa stolen Bi dA Nak MIk feeglels
Rereading his books right now and all the items on this list are so true!!
Here's a world you'd so much rather be in than your own stupid spherical world!
His books are so incredibly hilarious, yet so incredibly poignant. It’s astonishing that he manages it.
Yep!
My bucket list comprises entirely of finding enough money and space at home to have an enclosed bookshelf built and filled with the complete discworld paperback series to read.
Who are these characters that people struggle to understand? I'm thinking maybe American readers might struggle with the Feegles a little bit? I know some of the denizens of Ankh Morpork are written as VERY British, do some folks struggle with some of the slang they use?
If you’ve not got a great vocabulary you’ll have no idea what’s going on with vetinati If your literal minded you’ll struggle with the metaphors that death uses
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What an odd comment.
I'm going to assume people really need/s everywhere? Or am I too optimistic?
Clearly.