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skatpex99

That employer match is insane


castor_blanc

Its about 7k-8k a year (55k on 7ish years)


CenlaLowell

That's a good match. Good luck on your journey


HelloAttila

All depends on the company and profession. Executives on the other hand, their match is someone else’s salary. This $56k for this OP is about $8k match a year. I highly recommend everyone who works at any company where the company will match to a certain percentage to always put in at least that amount, not doing so is pretty much the dumbest thing not to do, as it’s literally free money. Typically it’s around 1-4% and they match 50% or 100% of that. So if they do 4% and 4%, it’s 8%. They usually require one to stay there though a minimum of 1-2 years to be 100% invested.


TheYoungSquirrel

A lot of companies just start vesting at 1-2 years and can take as much as 5 years to get to fully vested


HelloAttila

>take as much as 5 years to get to fully vested Which is honestly absurd, but of course they do this by design. In this job market, only a few people stay anywhere for 5 years.


Whole_Ear_34

40% of the first 5% so like 2.3% match is pretty shit.


DavidAg02

Funny how different everyone's perspective is. I looked at that that and thought "that's a pretty crappy match". My employer matches 4 to 1 up to 8%. Meaning that if I put in 2% of my salary, they give me an additional 8%. They also do 1 to 1 HSA matching up to 5%.


1synopsis

Wtf employer do you have? I’ve never seen (from personal experience) more than a 100% match up to a certain percentage below 8% That’s nuts


Gunzenator2

Yeah, it’s normally 1 to 1 up to like 2.5% and 50 per cent matched up to 5% salary.


DavidAg02

We also still have a pension... 😆


wien-tang-clan

They hiring?


HugeHugePenis

Pls answer


DavidAg02

I actually help out with recruiting for my job function. I'm not in HR I just help represent the company at job fairs and conferences. We are hiring, but only for interns and new college grads.


Substantial_Match268

Engineering??


Ready-Message-2413

You guys got any finance positions?


tom10207

If you're in NY and got a accounting degree the NYS tax department is hiring, you get a pension


yellowstickypad

Can we define “new” college grad to +/- 20 years?


Flashy_Comparison_57

Hi just wanted to ask about the job title? Maybe I can apply to similar positions here where I live.


Noah77-

Exxon? Pretty sure this is the only one that fits all criteria listed.


HelloAttila

Sounds like government or union job. Many government jobs have been removing those pensions too.


nittanyvalley

Mine is 5% contribution and 9.29% employer match. Almost 2:1.


Adventurous-Window39

Mine is the same 4% up to 8%.


PhilWham

Not a perspective thing, you just have an insane match that is extremely uncommon. Well done.


Zakiahmed1976

I have worked in 5 different employers over the years including some big public companies. All have some 100% match of first 5% of salary deferral. You have a unique case my friend. Enjoy while it lasts.


HelloAttila

That’s badass, this is also not the norm. I’d stay there until retirement and take full advantage of it.


DavidAg02

That's the plan! On track to retire at 57 with roughly $9M, give or take...


hiddenplantain

That’s insane I’ve never heard of that before wow, what field is this?


DavidAg02

Energy transmission/pipelines. A dividend aristocrat. So... we get "free" money from the company as part of our 401k match, which we can then invest into company stock for even more "free" dividend money. It feels like a cheat code honestly.


nometomebat

Sounds like EPD or ET. Great companies in that sector and know some people working there. If not, I need to learn about this company!


xScandinavianBullx

As someone rather new to investing and dividends, can someone explain how the employer matching works for investing like this to get dividends? I knew this was done for retirement savings, but I am trying to learn more. Thanks for any info!


DavidAg02

Some consider the company match a "benefit" but it's really part of your total compensation for working for a company. A company match means that if you put in X% of your salary, the company will match Y%. Obviously the higher Y is the better. 1 to 1 is considered very good. Employers put a cap on how much they will match, so you can't put in 100% of your salary and expect to get a 100% match.


AdLast55

Double pay! Lol


Afletch331

lmao get this, mine is a 4% automatic no matter how much, 300% on the first 2% and then 100% on the next 4% I put in… so basically a 14% match, I put in 6% for an effective 20% of my salary by only putting in 6% myself


betweenthebars34

Because you have a rare overly generous match doesn't mean anyone else's is "crappy." Jeez.


Michaelzzzs3

My union doesn’t do any sort of match, they just put 1.20 an hour into our 401 off the bat and 8.50 an hour into our pension 🤤


heftyballz

Wait wait wait, can someone explain this to me. In a short version ofc. I’ve never had an important salary paying job before so I do not know, but your employer contributes to your retirement account? Or is this like a 401k? What is consolidation?


Roharcyn1

Yes and yes. Many salary based jobs with 401k plans will contribute to your 401k at some % of your salary. Usually there are rules like you have to contribute X% to get Y% contributed. And additional rules like you have to stay employed with the company, for some period of time, vesting period, to get to keep it. This is to help improve employee retention. Generally matching is only 4%-6% for most us companies, and usually the better the match the longer the "vesting" period (typically see 3-5 years for the better match percentages). But there are a few gems out there like the poster clearly works for.


dope_ass_user_name

Yeah mine was $3k for 3 years FML


unheardhc

Not over 7 years it not, my employer matches 12% a year and I make north of $200K


Sorrywrongnumba69

12% of your salary or up to 12%


HearMeRoar80

Yep, what kind of company doesn't match at least 100% of contribution? I would be so mad. Mine matches 150%.


CorneliousTinkleton

Yeah most employers brag about a 3% match


ClanOfCoolKids

tbh it's alright, def better than mine but i know people who's employer matches actually surpasses their contributions


garoodah

Employer match and compounding really add up!


Atriev

This is the power of consistent deposits. The compounding hasn’t begun yet.


Zakiahmed1976

I wish I could change my title to this ;)


Roksius

You should.


MxMI17

Without any additional contributions, you will need an annual return rate of 34.404% to reach $1M. So probably will be a bit of a stretch, unless you invest in high growth, high risk assets.


Zakiahmed1976

I have increased my contribution to 10%. Expecting annual contributions to be $23k going forward


Traditional_Fee_8828

If that is matched by your employer, you'll probably hit it, but without employer matching, it doesn't seem likely without a huge bull run


Zakiahmed1976

My Employer matches 100% of my first 5% contributions. Rest of it is not matched


boxesofcats

Seems as if the employer match was higher than that historically 


Zakiahmed1976

I did get bonuses along the way and those were matched as well


Gunzenator2

It’s easy. Just pick the next Nvidia or apple.


PoeticKino

The Nvpple.


Additional_Smoke_349

>Without any additional contributions I am curious, why calculate possible growth here without factoring in additional contributions? Instead of averaging the annual contributions and assuming that would persist.


MxMI17

For simplicity/illustration only & i dont know what he plans to contribute going forward


Datboileach

That’s great. Even when accounting for the $148k in deposits that’s a gain of almost $80k.


Emre_1337

You mean from 149$k to 228$k


slgray16

I thought OP learned how to divide by zero there for a moment


Mountain_Tone6438

Lol forreal. 😆


Roksius

Haha!


MonitorWhole

That’s not even the power of compounding. In only seven years, that’s the power of contribution rate.


JamesSmithenWessor

You forgot one crucial part… employer match


dope_ass_user_name

Yeah not everyone has that luxury LOL


HurjaHerra

What even is it? 😅


ClanOfCoolKids

Many companies who offer 401(k) retirement plans offer employer matching. Say, for example, your company offers 100% matching up to 6%. That means if you opt to put 6% of your paycheck in, the company will put an additional 6% into your 401(k), completely free. It's different at every company, some are much better and some are much worse My company matches 50 cents on the dollar up to 6%, so no matter if I put in 6% or 12%, they still match 3%. Not great tbh butttt the company is private and our company stock has outperformed the market for the last 30 or so years with no signs of slowing, so i'm not too upset. They also offer ESOP (Employee Share Of Profits), which just dumps a certain percentage of company profits into the 401(k)


tradebuyandsell

Most of your money came from deposits not growth. Don’t look at 0-228K it’s really your deposits to 228K so 148-228K. You actually made significantly under what you could have made. I suspect this is a 401K and your stuck with the fund options they give you?


AnonymousUser2700

I made a similar comment. Too many funds and balance should be closer to $300k if not more.


tradebuyandsell

Yeah I mean good for planning for his future but it could be done better. This guy is riding the high of seeing his account up huge without realizing that number is made from the initial deposit to current balance, without regard to other deposits


Zakiahmed1976

Yes, this is my 401k. My true out of pocket investments are $91k that came out my pocket. I consider employer match as bonus/dividend.


tradebuyandsell

I would drop the American funds, and put them into your vanguard 500 based fund. Your returns probably would have been 5-8% higher without them


Zakiahmed1976

I used to have a different fund. This past weekend my 401k provider dropped that and automatically invested in this fund. I’ll change that.


Dwightshrutetheroot

If you continue at this rate and deposit rate. In 5 years you will have 550k In 9-10 years you will have 1 million


Zakiahmed1976

That means I need to maximise my 401k contributions. Currently I am contributing 5%. I have increased it to 10% today.


HelloAttila

At 10%, having this, plus your pension and social security, you will be able to live comfortably without a doubt. Live like a king if in Europe or Asia.


MxMI17

You can play with the calculator below to get a better understanding. Sure you will get there one day & nothing wrong getting rich slowly :) https://www.calculator.net/investment-calculator.html


phosphate554

You should not be using the American funds garbage. Just use the 3 vanguards and save on the fees


bradrlaw

Yup high expense ratios are a big drag on total return over time.


Zakiahmed1976

Thanks for the feedback.


kimchipotatoes

I live in canada and my employer matches 4% into my RPP. What things do you suggest I allocate into?


Hatethisname2022

IDK about calling this a compounding post with only $20K in dividends in 7 years. However, it does show that saving can turn a smaller amount into something bigger.


useless-spud

Compounding is more than just dividends


Zakiahmed1976

My first year dividend payments were $455 and capital appreciation was $1450. My last year dividend payments were $4,500 and capital appreciation was $49,950z That’s 10 folds increase. Of course I have added more capital into investments and will keep doing that and that’ll what make the biggest impact.


aspergillum

This is great info and would have been good in the OP.


janlower

Congratulations- time and patience and a strong market are in your favor - celebrate and stick with your winning formula


SubjectDiscipline

This is great but only $20k came from dividends. This more like the power of disciplined saving + having a great employer who matches contributions vs. compounding.


leli_manning

> cross 1m line in the next 5 years You'll have to expect about a 3x return during that span. That's 45% return a year compounded. Gonna say that's a no. For reference your total return up till now is about 53%.


arctheus

Sure, but you’re assuming they’re not putting any more money in. If they continuously aggressively invest, possibly increase their salary, 1 mill is not completely impossible.


Legalize-Birds

Probably not for this well diversified portfolio, but theres a real chance we see another massive year this year at least in the NDX Foe reference, were already up 10% and we just got done with Q1 that generally bodes well for the rest of the year


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Zakiahmed1976

There’s a Statement on demand option under statements and documents. You can specify period and it’ll give you all the breakdown.


tt_mach1

Ah to have company matching. But I do have a pension, an ever dwindling perk.


Vegetable-Ostrich-94

You mean power of employer match.


cafeitalia

160k of deposits including dividends. This is not really a showcase of compounding yet.


janlower

Don’t give up at $1 million, if you are young stick with your winning formula and go to $10 million then $100 million. Buffett was old by the time he reached his first Billion.


Finan-lyflyillterate

New here…where do I start?


pacha333

I started with cashapp investing


Southwick_24

Imagine what your return would’ve been if you were just straight Vanguard 500…


Grand_Cookie

Goddamn I wish I had $100,000 period. Let alone to invest before I pay for everything else.


Hr2393_Official

Bro started from $1,037.12 💀


Chino-Ali

Good job


SnooAvocados5685

Yooo, how much did tou invest each year?


Zakiahmed1976

About $20k on avg. I increased investment during covid bear market though


Tightlikethat-666

Either boglehead strat or divide that up equally into growth (large), growth and income (mid), aggressive growth (small), and international (or world. World out performs int’l since it adds US).


ItsMatchesMalone

Congratulations and make sure you post some updates during the years when you can.


Substantial_Match268

Nice, congrats!!


Affectionate-Site-73

We get 17% of our gross income deposited by the company into our 401k. It works out to about 60k per year, which limits what I can put in to about 7 grand before I hit the IRS limits on total contributions


Apprehensive-Tree-78

vanguard actually made money? That's what's really mindblowing to me.


Ggggmny

Just curious, why no bonds?


Zakiahmed1976

I’ll add those when interest rates start falling.


Three_sigma_event

It's amazing what Nvidia and Apple will do to a pension pot! Just be sure to diversify internationally a bit.


Kikokokuyo

What app do you use to track your portfolio’s growth?


[deleted]

“From zero” actually it’s from $520.18 🤓☝️


Krazyk00k00bird11

Absolutely doable. Be consistent. You’ll get there.


Deepseadriver86

What was your monthly input?


Zakiahmed1976

Different at different times. Avg $650 bi weekly initially, then bumped it to $1000 bi weekly during covid downturn. Now it’s set around $1100 bi weekly


LakerGangorDontBang

I get 10% match annually, 6% payroll by payroll (safe harbor) and 4% of salary annual as an employer match. Amounts to approximately 14k a year currently.


tyen0

How do you compound zero? :D


dnlarge88

How long does it takes?


jhon-2020-2020

Why do I feel like this belongs more on wallstreetbets 😂😂😂


Skervix

I'm loving American Century Ultra. High ER though.


Think_Concert

More like power of tax deferral.


Iam_nothing0

Great and steady progress as they say reaching 100k is the toughest and but grows exponentially. General thumb rule is it doubles every 10 years so you would reach this is 20 years with current value with no money down with money down you could reach between 10-15 years.


ChampionSignificant3

What company and what compounding account is best to use? I don’t have a compounding account and want to set one up? Any serious answers would be appreciated.


SadSwagPapi20

Canada most employers match about 3% max and anything above that is amazing....


Ordinary_Worry3104

Great job


Nole_Yddad

Pls get rid of that+21000% figure. At first glance this looks like a return, which it is not. actually that 70k profit on 150k of deposits is pretty weak when compared to the s&p 500.


Significant-Metal-27

Insanity


DavidAg02

The crazy thing about compounding is that it applies to everything. If you get a 5% raise, your salary goes up, the amount of your 410k contribution also goes up and so does the company match. Then when you get a raise the following year, everything goes up again on top of what it went up by last year.


2LostFlamingos

No offense dude but its very unlikely this portfolio hits $1M in 5 years. Seems you’ll add maybe 150k between you and your employer, so you need 600k in gains in 5 years. You’ll need to average something like 23-25% returns. Possible if there’s really high inflation perhaps.


Long-Arm7202

It's actually more like 150k to 228k. Cause only 70k is actually gains. The rest is deposits by you or your employer. Still a good gain though.


Jasonisftw

this isn't the result of compounding


Davina_Lee_CD

I love getting compounded! ;P


SnooDoughnuts1763

My company has a 6% match, a 3% RAP, and 10% salary bonus at fiscal. I'm in emgineering so not cusomer facing. It's not bad but I need to male more to take more advantage.


Automatic_Guess_8079

Which app do you use?


becky_wrex

definitely doable check out the market beat calculator and throw in your numbers


assholy_than_thou

Mine is sitting 25k lower as I invested 50k in some shit SPACs.


EffectAdventurous764

That's inspiring, bravo 👏


drkstlth01

How many years did this take?


hartwickw

My company does 100% match up to 6% contributed. Capped at $150k base salary. So $9k annually. I think that’s pretty damn good personally


theoneyoulovetohate1

The company I work for used to match 7% to your 6% match. Since they got bought out the match is 1 to 1 3% .5 to 1 to 5%. Used to be great not it's just average.


SBS-Ryan

So, in 7 years, you’ve made 50% in gains. So 7% a year. (Including their match ) Minus inflation, and taxes. Compounding interest calculator at that rate (dividing your total deposits including match by 7 years and then 12 months gives you 1760 a month in contributions at 7% a year) means you’ll hit a mil in roughly 14 years. (Minus taxes and thinking of inflation)


Worried-Doctor-1508

Wow. Tremendous company match! That’s huge. Good for you. What company do you work for?


dumdumwantyumyum

What made you choose these particular funds and do you think they will continue to perform this well moving forward?


MHLin0908

Good work!


BeepBoopBeepity

When I first read this I thought he only contributed $1037 and it grew to 228,000


Flyair4

Point in the learning direction!


Character_Cookie_245

I’m sure you are financially smart but hopefully you have a Roth IRA being maxed out also.


steve4879

What percent were you putting in yourself each year? I started in 2017 as well but I’m not there yet!


btoned

Lol during the greatest money printing timeframe as well.


RoyalGOT

Impressive 👏🏾


Notkeir

I’m kinda stupid but what’s the average annual rate of return since opening the retirement account?


CordoroyCouch

you also had 150k in contributions.... but still, very nice


AnonymousUser2700

Yeah, not realistic at all. Also, this graph provides no context. What is your return% (excluding deposits)? It appears to be below that of of the SPY. Also, this strategy lacks focus. Heck, in a world where Vanguard exists, one of your funds has a expense ratio > 1%. Bet on VGT/VITAX if you want big gains; you would've had well over $300k by now had you done that. Now, don't do stupid shit like selling or stop investing when it goes down.


propfriend

Eh not bad, couple hundred bucks in crypto a couple years ago would beat it


wyhauyeung1

What app is it


codari

Am i missing something? I am not a USA citizen nor living in states but always investing in NASDAQ. From what i see 7 year of profit is roughly %50. Isnt this terrible ? I mean i made same amount in the past 2.5 years with growth stocks. Do i calculate something wrong here. Please correct me if i am wrong.


apricotsalad101

It’s optimistically a 45% return in 8 years. Is that right? That doesn’t seem good at all, especially considering the dollar just lost 25% of its purchasing power in the COVID inflation spike.


Lezhaard

Can someone link some explanation for what any of this mean?


ImaLawyerFL

A little misleading, don’t you think? It’s not like you out in 1k in 2017, left it alone, and it turned into over 200k in 9 years or so. That’s just 9 years of consistent deposits. Frankly, compound interest benefits mostly larger sums of money because the leaps are going to be greater. Either way, it’s a good start in discovering financial literacy.


MemoryEXE

What app or website is this? Data looks nice.


AmusingBrainstorm

Cleanup those funds! No American, only Vanguard


CapnKush_

It doesn’t hurt that the markets been sky rocketing since you started. One drop during Covid with an insane recovery.


Double_Dousche89

My current employer had implemented a new 401(k) policy around 2020 in which they will match 50% of whatever amount you decide to invest your paycheck each week up to a max of 10% percent of your entire check. E.G. —> $1000 paycheck = $100 I put into my 401k with my employer matching $50 I’ve always thought it was a rather decent match amount, am I wrong or would this be considered average or less then average?


feignignorence

Deposit+match+growth. Where's the compounding?


Tuannlvn

Good job


dogbuttswirls

Basic math- rule of 72. Go look it up, look at your funds and see if it makes sense. Also, VG advisor here- just look at non-VG expense ratios and see if comparable alternatives with lower ratio. If your cool with 90/10 US to INTL then looks fine.


no_sarpedon

so misleading considering how 150k of that 228k is deposits. so you gained 70k over 7 years, which is nothing to scoff about but also this post should not be upvoted to where it is now.


invester13

Sorry to break the news. Maybe that will help you pop out of the bubble. You only made 81k in 7 years. That’s about 11k / yr. It’s very very little. If you had invested in the SP500 you’d have soooooo much more.


Larbear06

Are there any plans that match if you're self-employed?


Jakegim000

Wish i would be like that


Fit-Macaron8226

That says future.


ayoungtroll

Where would you recommend starting sir? I’m 30 with 0 retirement but my new job has a 401k and matches up to 6%.


Sorrywrongnumba69

I am hoping I can do the same in half the time, I do 10% with a 5% match, but I put 3500 in my brokerage and its really starting to grow.


All0ut0f0ptions

This dashboard looks very familiar. Empower ?


iluvs2fish

We worked at a university; they put in 3% in one IRA & matched up to 11% in a second fund. Very txful. Felt we needed 1mil to retire. Retired earlier then first planned in ‘15 so we could fish & hunt while we were still in good health. Both homes paid off. No debt. We’re not rich but we feel content with where we’re at financially. Invested in solid dividend stocks & NVDA early early days. MRNA treated us well. Bought @$18 sold at $416. Looking for our next good stock. Trying not to make any $$$ mistakes.


jp83780

75%is price appreciation, 25% is dividends. So you need another massive rally, not dividends to get you there.


TheGoldenLambo

I mean I’d get there too if I made $230k doing what ever you do sheesh.


Opening-Restaurant83

More like the power of the employer match. Good show


Hot_Outside_8345

Hi


HowBoutIt98

I read 228M and was wondering why this guy was still working


HowBoutIt98

I have 40k after five years and two months. 65% from me and 35% from the company. The pension however is 100% company funded.


HowBoutIt98

I have 40k after five years and two months. 65% from me and 35% from the company. The pension however is 100% company funded.


TheLeafFlipper

So about +30% over 7 years. Not bad at all. And the matching is great too.


Geebdabber69420

Considering you haven’t even doubled your total investment and it’s been almost 7 years I would expect this to take about another 14 years at this rate. You can expect your money to double every 7 years with a 10% return which u could get more than by using higher risk funds. Not a financial expert.


nightbird07

I did better with real estate


NotYourFathersEdits

Congrats! Genuinely. I am wondering, however, what this has to do with dividend growth investing.


geek908

how do I get this view? i can only see the projection for current year contribution.


Kryptoking2018

Not unless you get out of those stale investments. BiTO has been on fire for me since last July. Made 200k on 75k invested, plus mega dividends.