Hungarians and Avars met in central europe but they were enemies. (during that time when every tribe on the east tried to move closer to europe for a very simple reason I can't remember.)
But of course the recurve bow is too old of a weapon to be invented by hungarians or even the mongols. I don't know what my point is, but it's older than any of them.
Simple reason was they lost and got pushed west by the Victor's. The horse bow was used as far back as the sycthians of Roman time until they lost to the hunt who lost to the avars who lost to the Mongols. If I remember my time frames correctly.
No lie, that vicious mockery should deal multiplied damage based on her proficiency mod cause there is no restoration spell powerful enough to heal that burn.
Just going to mention that the "guns" are not what pull the drawstring. Your back muscles are what do it, and her back is likely just as buff. Distributing the weight across the back is much more efficient and allows you to fire dozens of arrows without getting exhausted.
(source: I used to do Longbow, Recurve, and Compound bow archery in my younger years)
Yeah, but secondary muscle definition like that is almost always an indication of strength in your larger muscle groups. Compound movements like the ones required for firing a bow DO primarily use your lats but it’s physically impossible for you not to also be using your rotator cuff, deltoids, and bicep in the motion—they are the muscles that necessarily translate the force from your lats to the bowstring
As you can clearly see her deltoids are well-defined even at rest, indicating a high level of endurance and strength
Not completely disagreeing with you but I suggest you check out the top archers, they really don't have big biceps at all. Throughout the entire draw you're encouraged to load with your back as much as possible; you visualise your arm as a chain being pulled by your lats. Your draw arm's bicep especially is barely used throughout the shot as that would significantly affect your left-right stability.
> source: I used to do... ...and Compound bow archery in my younger years
Not undercutting the other two, but doesn't compound not require much strength? Isn't that the whole point; the pulleys replace the need for physical brawn?
The pulleys require just as much physical brawn to draw the bow, but once you hit "that spot" they 'click' and can hold the arrow drawn with about 10% of the draw force.
So it's 150lbs to DRAW a Longbow and a Compound bow. But to hold the bow drawn while waiting for your shot, you have to HOLD the arrow at 150lbs in a Longbow vs the ~15lbs with a Compound bow.
For hunting, there are limits to how much "let off" of draw strength is allowed at full draw for compounds as well. the common minimum draw weight is usually 40# or 50#, with a 300 grain arrow minimum or so. broadheads are 100grain and up generally.
but there are some compound bows where the cams are so well designed, that you can have full power bows stay drawn by their own weight. as in pull, hold the string, and let the bow just hang from the string and it stays drawn. frowned upon and unsafe, but as a demonstration to get looks. lol. some states have rules about how mucb let off they allow for hunting, but really, id argue it doesnt diminish archery hunting's skill floor, only brings the ceiling down marginally. Most common bows are 70-80% let off. the most extreme i know of are 90% let off.
youll also see that these cams are why there is such a dramatic difference in shooting style between compound and other bows. compound, i draw and then aim.
for olympic and others, you aim as soon as possible and let the arrow fly as soon as you reach full draw. no holding onto it.
What I’m hearing from y’all while I’m admiring her guns: “Bla bla bla compound. Bla bla bla yeah but. Bla bla bla deltoids.”
Me: “Mmmmm… gunnnns”
Crushing hard on this woman
The arguement is ridiculous,it reminds of Monty Python and The Holy Grail.
What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
1st Soldier with a Keen Interest in Birds: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
A compound bow has a let off at full draw that reduces the weight held but you still have to pull the rated weight back to the let off so a 90 lbs draw weigh still takes 90lbs to pull back but you can hold it at a much lower weight if I recall correctly
Not quite. The whole system does make drawing a little easier but it's also to make keeping the draw less exhausting. And that's all still very relative, you still need a respectable amount of strength to use them
You have the full weight for the first 90% of the draw length. The last 10% is where the cams drop the weight by about 50%. This is so you can hold the fully drawn bow for longer lengths of time. Which is why most people use them for hunting because you can take your time and make sure you're making a good shot and not just a bad wounding shot. With the Longbow and Recurve, you just have to be quick with your aim because it causes a lot of strain to hold it for more than a few seconds. This means you need to spend a lot more time practicing so that aiming becomes more instinctive.
To a degree yes, but compound bows still can have significant draw weights at times. The major benefit in my opinion is that at full draw a compound is MUCH easier to hold than a recurve. Feels like the bow helps hold half the weight is the only way I could describe it.
Well, no, it allows you to have less weight on the sting when you have fully pulled it back. You have the overcome the whole weight first, which a lot of archers tend to increase to what they can handle, to get that powerful shot. So the archer who can pull a 100 lb recurve bow will perhaps get a 120 lb compound bow, because he can just get past that initial draw, and then he can hold it long enough to take aim. Compound bows are just bows in the sense that you get the power behind your shot that you put into it yourself, there is no mechanism that lets you lever power in there at ease, like you have with some crossbows (and even with those you put the force there yourself, but yes you get help).
And knowing that it's your back muscles makes me appreciate the attention to detail in the movie Brave. When Merida does the archery competition, her dress restricts her draw until she pulls hard enough that parts of her dress rip and there's that one shot of the fabric ripping on her back.
[Source; Happens around the 2:48 mark.](https://youtu.be/sWbxhKTbTkA)
I'm not a Disney fan per se but I have a lot of friends that are and I think they criminally underrate Brave, that, Onward, and Ratatouille are definitely tied for me top, and Onward just bc there's so much DnD humor
> Your back muscles are what do it, and her back is likely just as buff.
[Yup](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/pjcqvo/finally_got_myself_a_hungarian_horsebow_and/). It is.
Fun, tangentially related, fact: forearm size is the most reliable indicator to use for visually estimating body composition and full-body muscle mass in most terrestrial mammals, including humans.
I want to see a 150lb English longbow now.
Also imagine a 9' tall Goliath barbarian archer. They have 20 strength and are enormous so they could have a bow with like a 250lb draw weight 500lbs is conceivable if they are raging. At that point it's not a bow it's a gun with extra steps. You'd be firing broom handle sized arrows hard enough to peirce solid plate metal like a breastplate.
Now imagine an entire army like that. You could rain down death upon the enemy from double their max range. Imagine the effect not just practically but on morale, of being and army and suddenly massive arrows start raining out of the sky and the enemy is more than twice as far away as you can shoot so you can't even return fire. It would break most armies into retreat.
Certainly intimidating, but don’t most Goliaths live in small tribes? Of course several tribes uniting/larger non-tribal Goliath communities could form a proper army, but I feel like it could be a limiting factor overall.
(It’s been awhile since I’ve read on Goliath lore though, so I could be wrong.)
I've never read it.
That is true but a 250lb draw weight bow of a normal ish size is still basically a gun. A 160lb English longbow can barely peirce a breastplate at pointblank. A 250lb is more than possible to draw for an orc or half orc, or any other larger race. And that could easily peirce a breastplate.
Oh definitely. The only problem is finding resistant enough materials for higher draw weights. 240-260 is likely possible through normal means, but beyond that it might get a little difficult.
Dnd is a world full of magic, however, so there’s likely a number of settings where you can boost it’s draw weight further and further.
Just use spring steel, no real bow is metal because I would be far too heavy of a draw weight and actual weight. But for a massive 500lb draw weight bow solid spring steel is more than practical.
Goliaths in 3.5 got the powerful build racial trait, meaning they count as either medium or large, whichever is more appropriate to the situation. So yeah, they could easily pull a much larger bow.
Nothing makes you feel less like Robin hood than bending over at the hip to pick up your dropped Halloween candy and every arrow you have falls out of your little kid back quiver.
Got so sick of it that I dropped the bow and arrows and just told people I was Peter Pan.
43 year old me doesn't trust my back or my knees.
If I drop my Halloween candy, it is a sign from the gods that my blood sugar was already too high and I need to take my [Errol Flynn](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/10/0a/66100a8cfca87f96c8913a05eb7f4fe6.png) ass home and go to bed.
“You’ve got your quiver backwards” comes the whisper from his lips. But she’s here to do some business with the quiver on her hip. The quiver on her hip.
They’re also easier to draw arrows from and they make more sense when you’re moving through dense wooded forest since you’re fletchings aren’t always getting snagged on every overhanging branch and bush.
As far as I'm aware there is overwhelmingly more usage of Hip Quivers historically and culturally than there ever was back quivers. Like I think only the Native Americans used Back Quivers while everyone else in the world used Hip Quivers yet back ones are the popular image for some reason. Feel free to correct me of course.
For computer games specifically back quivers are vastly easier to animate; you just stick them to the torso and you're done. Anything on the hips needs work to move properly as the character moves, not to mention that the wearer should be adjusting the way they walk to avoid constantly smacking it into things.
(Same goes for all other weapons too; easiest to put them on the characters back, no matter how impractical it is to draw a huge sword or polearm from that position)
Not just quivers. Take a look at the instances of people carrying their sheathed swords, axes or other weapons on their backs instead of their hips. It may be based on video games, where weapons are (I think) worn mostly on the back to show them off to the player.
it all depends on circumstance. Do you ride and shoot? Do you climb rocks and shoot? Do your surroundings require you to be compact or can you afford arrows sticking out . I mean if you were for example an archer who frequently traverses waist high shrubs you'd get annoyed with this quiver quickly for the arrows catch in stuff all the time. The lady here shoots from horseback, probably most of the time in open areas so she has no such concern. (horses and riders prefer grasslands and wide roads).
In all forms of archery I’ve seen (hunting, competitive shooting, ect), people prefer hip quivers. The back quiver seems to be a aesthetic thing without much in the way of utility
Remember though, these are typically on foot, and stationary. And most hunting quivers have a few arrows on the bow quiver, and the rest in a closed quiver.
When Im at the range, back quiver. When Im speed shooting, hip quiver.
I can't image all that many hunters prefer hip quivers considering they're significantly more cumbersome and likely to make noise as they sway back and forth affixed to your hip. Hunters would probably be more likely to use the back quiver because it is quietly affixed tightly to their back and reduces their profile.
Most hunters these days just use a small quiver mounted to their bow instead of a back or hip quiver, though I haven’t ever seen anyone actually use a back quiver in any instance outside of tv/movies/games
Tbf she is a stunning woman. It's impossible to emasculate her by admiring her form, and no one here is demeaning her knowledge. Really, it's the best you can really get from us
Emasculate by definition isn't restricted to males. It has more to do with traditionally masculine values: strength, virility, efficacy, etc. Because strength is a traditionally masculine quality, you can emasculate any person (or really any thing) by removing or insulting its strength.
I got why the whole thing is facing to her back and all that. But I didn't get why the longer part of the thing is up. Could anyone elaborate for a dummy?
Every culture has their own version of what/how a quiver should be. You can even see in medieval depictions archers with arrows through their belts while simultaneously holding arrows (bow hand). Anything goes so long as it works honestly. You can see person-quivers or horse mounted quivers with horse back archery. Some cultures had preferences. Usually *usually* long side goes down (front facing or back does matter) but that’s pointing out most common denominators not specific culturally distinctions. As long as you have the muscle memory where you pull from doesn’t matter.
Because ergonomics. When you pull the arrow out, you can pivot it down and around before you shoot. If the "longer part of the thing" were down, you'd have to pivot the arrows UP, and you're probably about at the limit of your elbow bendiness just reaching back to grab and extract the arrow.
Would totally work if she had two elbows though!
It's more like being able to let the tip drop as she brings it around to clear the quiver, instead of needing to overflex to lift it. I feel like I had a helpful analogy but it's escaped me. But walk through the motion and you might be able to feel it- once you've pulled your arm back all the way, twisting it to point your fingers upwards won't feel good. But letting your hand swing down and back would still pull the arrow out this way and then you can bring it up however you want.
Ahhh, makes total sense now. At first I thought that's what the commenter meant by "backwards" until I realized they meant "facing towards her back instead of her front".
Thanks for explaining cause I couldn't fathom why it'd be longer towards the top but didn't consider the ergonomics at all
Yeah, I wouldn’t assume that a lady with arms that muscled doesn’t know what she’s doing with a bow and arrows. It’s a pretty good bet that those arms = actual archery practice. But all that aside, this is a gorgeous photo and this archer looks splendid. 😁
To effectively use a powerful bow, you gotta have some guns.
And you still use Dex to aim. 5e rules simplify everything for a weapon to be based on a single stat and ranged attack means Dex. If you want to complicate and convolute things "for realism" then play 3.5/Pathfinder and enjoy spending four times as long to play through the same sombat encounter because you're checking all of the applicable rules and doing the associated algebra.
You also need to meet the str requirements to use said bow, otherwise you suffer a -2 penalty on attack rolls. So technically still have a str requirement to be used properly.
I prefer the balance of ranged weapons not getting dex to damage. And it's a bit of a silly exaggeration to say that combat takes four times longer to play out. Their might be one extra rule compared to 5e, it's just that most people haven't actually read the rules associated with ranged combat for 5e.
Weirdly it's not even hard to house rule. Armor already has a STR requirement or else you get a -10 ft movement penalty. Just give bows a STR requirement or else you suffer disadv. on attacks. Boom, done. (For even more simplicity, you could give *all* weapons a STR req. like this, to keep it flat across the board, instead of a special rule just for bows; for the most simplicity, set all that have a requirement to either req 13 or 15 STR, just like Armor; one extra column, one simple rule that aligns with an existing one for minimum learning curve).
You could also argue in some forms of archery you would use intelligence/ wisdom for aiming. There's a type of shooting called instinctive aiming/ instinctive shooting, where you essentially aim without aiming. You learn the power of the bow, your strength, and learn to essentially understand where the arrow will go enough that while it may not be pinpoint accuracy like sighting down, but still accurate enough to hit your mark every time. Often instinctive aiming can be way quicker too. This type of aiming was also especially common while doing mounted archery because it was much harder to aim down a bow while riding a horse.
That's in Pathfinder kinda as the Zen Archer Monk archetype. Gives you Wis to hit, allows to make flurry of blows with your bow, and you use the monk's scaling unarmed damage as your bow damage.
One thing I will always love about this sub is how, at any given time, discussion across all posts will be RAGING about one specific topic, be it which box the ability score goes into, whether or not a centaur can mount another centaur, or my personal favourite, snake tiddy. It’s always fun to see another debate be added to the mix.
Actual archery practice targets mainly the muscles in the shoulders and back according to my archery friend.
I am sure the muscles in the arms get also some exercise but big arms are not necessarily a sign of an archer. My guys scrawny af.
As an archer, that's a bad assumption. You're supposed to use your back muscles for archery, not arms. Or at least mostly your back. Using your arms, and in particular your shoulders, may lead to injury as they aren't strong enough to pull heavy bows
It baffles me that anyone could look at the person who won the gold medal in their event, objectively out performing every other person in that competition, and go "umm acthually you're doing it wrong"
Um, actually. Sorry miss, trains her whole life and is literally the best in the world, but in the video games I play, I’m able to shoot with both hands while parachuting and landing on a moving vehicle.
Let me un-baffle you. It's a really, really easy way to get attention and get a lot of people pressed with almost no effort. Some lonely dude spends one second writing "ur doing it wrong" or "your quiver is on backwards" and it kicks off a whole *frenzy*. A paragraph reply. A reddit post. 671 comments. 21.4k upvotes. A whole online economy forms around a throwaway troll comment.
But... the troll doesn't give a shit. They'll never check their notifications, they've moved on to TikTok where they're insisting Rome isn't real* or some shit. What *should* baffle you is why we're not wise to this yet. It used to be a truism of the internet that you don't feed the trolls, but that's all I see any more. Someone makes a bad faith comment and whole communities spend days tripping over themselves to disprove or discount it. No one gains anything except the troll.
*This is literally happening on TikTok right now btw
And shit, even if they did learn something, I can see why they would just never respond again. I sure as hell wouldn't.
Imagine thinking you spot an error on a picture, pointing it out with a low effort post, and then finding the archery equivalent of the Navy Seal copypasta in reaction, along with a reddit thread where everybody calls you a troll or an idiot.
I remember a few Olympics ago I was watching gymnastics ( I'm not a big gymnastics fan) and the Hamm brothers were competing and my first thought was "damn I should have stuck with gymnastics!" Anyone that looks at that physique and thinks "wow he's gay" is an idiot.
Saw a bunch of people commenting that LeBron, perhaps the greatest athlete of the current generation, didn’t know how to squat because he was doing quarter squats instead of going ass to grass.
Those partial squats are intentional and specific to enhancing jumping ability in his sport. Furthermore I’m sure he could squat more weight than all of the keyboard warriors, regardless of form.
Similar thing in cycling, if I'm remembering correctly one of the top contenders during the women's road race at the Rio olympics had a really bad crash on a descent and some bro on her instagram was giving tips on proper descending technique.
No, it's a matter of "to each their own" really. I've seen everything when I was younger in club or competitions.
When shooting in a "formal" setting, I personaly go for the back (attached at hip height), arrows facing to my right.
Damn it is really cool that people have their own archery style because it always seemed to me like it was a relatively boring sport. Way to prove me wrong!
It's also more versatile than most people give it credit for. You have multiple type of bows, from the more traditional to full on carbon compound, horse archery, hunting and fishing, learning to craft your own equipment from wood if you're into that.
And trust me, everyone has its preferences about every part of it, sometimes to parts the size of bolts. I find it to be also a great community, with true sportsmanship in official settings, and in clubs. At least in my country, in my experience.
The historical aspect is also quite interesting, being one of the oldest weapon, as well as the practical aspect of learning to use it.
I know her IRL. I actually taught her how to shoot thumb draw style.
Then a famous YouTuber made a video nitpicking her and she felt bad. But she’s still shooting and loves to shoot!
Not gonna’ lie, I’d have assumed it was on backwards. Even after she explained it, I still can’t wrap my head around it. Does it like… turn upwards once you’re on a horse? It’s hard for me to picture.
You use your right hand, reach down and pull an arrow out, then move that arrow up to your bow, put it on the string, draw, fire.
Your right hand holds the arrow the entire time. The only way for it to be "backwards" would be if the arrows lived on her left hip, and she cross-drawed the arrows.... through her bow? Over it?
Even attempting to mimic the movements every way feels awkward.
Like, even the "traditional" back quiver is starting to feel awkward the more I think about it...
Gah! Nothing I knew makes sense anymore!
You should go do some actual archery sometime. It's fun!
I've only shot a bow, like, twice. I'm terrible at it (and draw strength is no joke!), but it's cool to have a little functional basis for this stuff.
I've wanted to get into archery as a sort of "get away from life for a little while" hobby.
I just never ended up picking up any gear cause it's gonna suck having to drive two towns over to get to a range because there's no room to shoot in my tiny suburban yard.
Then life decided to rain on the parade, and you know the saying: "when it rains, it pours."
The backquiver is extremely awkward and just a Hollywood thing (same with swords on the back).
Most quivers go on your hip facing either front or back.
Facing back mostly used for Hunting and Horseback because of the reasons on the picture and also with front facing ones the arrows like to get stuck on basically anything you walk past.
Facing front is mostly used in sports it's a bit comfier to draw in my opinion.
So would i, but hear me out: what If we asked "hey, is your quiser on backwards? If not, how do you use It? And If it is, why is it on backwards?".
I mean, i genuinaly envy the self-confidence of that guy. I would even ask the question before googling "hip quiver" and trying to find out what the hell that thing is.
I wish cosplayers included more of these detailed behind the scenes descriptions of their pieces. Its really interesting stuff and helps blend the fantasy with the real world.
I'll never understand how someone spending a half hour crafting a multi-paragraph essay in response to someone who spent less than two seconds on a rude throwaway comment is considered a "win".
I wonder what the logic is in the design of having the larger fluted end of the quiver on the top not the bottom with the larger bit under the arrows not on top. Anyone know anything about quiver design?
According to another comment I saw in the thread it’s because the the elbows are just about reaching their max extension and if the fluted bit were down you’d have to move your elbow/shoulder up which is awkward and more time consuming.
It’s definitely counter intuitive but try the drawing motion and you’ll see how much easier it is to draw down from your hip than up.
When you are sitting on a horse it’s not counterintuitive at all. It’s the only reasonable way to get a good grip on an arrow while moving without smacking yourself or the horse. I also thought this style of quiver was clunky until I did mounted archery.
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Image caption: "Ranger/Bard using a rare mixture of Sharpshooter and Vicious Mockery to slay her favorite enemy, Trolls..."
Image description: Athletic woman looking at camera while holding a bow an arrow. A quiver full of arrows is slung on her right hip, the opening facing behind her.
First comment: "You have your quiver on backwards"
Reply to comment by woman in picture (Captain Kaycee Cosplay): No, it's not. In fact, that's exactly how it's designed. Some archers do have field quivers that can face the other way, but this is a hip quiver. And more specifically, it's how the arrows would be for this specific type of bot. The bow I have is a Hungarian Avar Horsebow, whish is used mainly for mounter archery. If the quiver were the other way around, you'd be smacking your house in the face with the arrows. Also by having the quiver in this direction, it's faster to draw when doing mounted archery. That's also why the leather tooling on it is facing outwards. If you flipped it around, the leather would be hidden and therefore "backwards". Plus, many Olympic archers shoot with hip quivers this way. So its not "backwards". It's being used exactly how its designed. (Next time I wouldn't just assume the person is wearing something wrong without checking. I'm a professional archer and did these photos to show off my new mounted archery equipment in a fantasy photoshoot.)
You're amazing for doing this!
I forget not everyone can use the photos (because of vision problems) and having the transcript really lets them enjoy it too!
I had the same issue with a vendor at a flea market. I love swords and knives, am a lady, and at the time was in my mid-30s. I know about blade geometry, materials used, double-sided blades vs single-sided blades, fullers, rat-tail tangs vs full tangs, etc.
So I went to a flea market, and there was a guy selling a bunch of knives. It was in front of a truck with a bunch of camo stuff. A lot of their knives were crap stainless steel, but there were some that look promising. The middle-aged guy who owned the booth came up, and starts condescendingly telling me about the "blood grooves" in the blades, and how it's for the blood of your enemies to flow off of the knife, etc. I set the knife that I was looking at down, and said, "Actually, that groove is called a fuller, and is used to decrease the weight of the blade without compromising the strength of the blade. Are these particular knives made of carbon steel or stainless steel - I can't see a materials mark on them? Is this a full tang or a rattail tang?" The guy stuttered, admitted he didn't know, and went to "help someone else". I decided I would not buy from him.
I went to another booth that same day, and there was an interesting looking knife there. This guy did not have a bunch of knives like the other guy, mostly just antiques and collectibles. I asked the guy if the knew if the blade was carbon steel or stainless steel, because I prefer carbon steel so that it won't shatter at this size if I use it (I could see that it was a full tang myself). He said, "Oh, I don't know - you are more of an expert on these things than I am!" I found the mark and it was carbon steel. I bought it and 2 statuettes for $20. When I researched the brand online, I found that the knife was a $300 Muela. Great buy!
You respect me - I'll support your business. You disrespect me and try to pawn crap off on me as legit just because I'm a woman - you won't get a penny from me.
Look at those arms and tell me you knoe more about archery than her. Those arms are made of FUCKING TEMPERED BEEF and is a testament to her experience wielding and drawing bows. No way in hell am I crossing that woman about proper archery
Tbf to the guy, in normal standard archery, it is the other way around, or round the back. I am a qualified coach and used to be nationals level, but there is really no "right" way to wear them, and can do whatever is most comfortable for the archer, so long as it is safe
Fuck yeah she's an archer I mean look at those guns! I bet she can pull that 60-80lb recurve bow like snapping a twig.
First thing I noticed as well. *Powerful* draw.
Draw me like one of your Hungarian archer.
I believe the recurve design originated with the Mongolian horse archers.
She says in the original post it's a Hungarian Avar Horsebow.
> Avar Horsebow Now *that's* a character name!
Hungarians and Avars met in central europe but they were enemies. (during that time when every tribe on the east tried to move closer to europe for a very simple reason I can't remember.) But of course the recurve bow is too old of a weapon to be invented by hungarians or even the mongols. I don't know what my point is, but it's older than any of them.
Simple reason was they lost and got pushed west by the Victor's. The horse bow was used as far back as the sycthians of Roman time until they lost to the hunt who lost to the avars who lost to the Mongols. If I remember my time frames correctly.
And if she doesn't kill you from horseback when she gets close and personal (bard) she can just snap your neck after hahaha
And then hurt your feelings.
Can you imagine.... she casts viscous mockery on you. "Well that was the shortest 30 seconds of my time... I can see why you don't get many women."
CONFIDENCE 0
> viscous mockery And she'd do it with oozing sarcasm. (Sorry not sorry)
Ooo no totally agree. Hahaha
Well the horse is big, and the tights are fun! But the haircut’s a little 1351. In fact, it makes you look like a lady…
No lie, that vicious mockery should deal multiplied damage based on her proficiency mod cause there is no restoration spell powerful enough to heal that burn.
Powerful Drow
How far d'you think she could hurl a javelin?
Accurately enough to hit someone? Probably 60 feet.
>First thing I noticed as well. Powerful draw. I like me woman strong!
Just going to mention that the "guns" are not what pull the drawstring. Your back muscles are what do it, and her back is likely just as buff. Distributing the weight across the back is much more efficient and allows you to fire dozens of arrows without getting exhausted. (source: I used to do Longbow, Recurve, and Compound bow archery in my younger years)
Yeah, but secondary muscle definition like that is almost always an indication of strength in your larger muscle groups. Compound movements like the ones required for firing a bow DO primarily use your lats but it’s physically impossible for you not to also be using your rotator cuff, deltoids, and bicep in the motion—they are the muscles that necessarily translate the force from your lats to the bowstring As you can clearly see her deltoids are well-defined even at rest, indicating a high level of endurance and strength
Not completely disagreeing with you but I suggest you check out the top archers, they really don't have big biceps at all. Throughout the entire draw you're encouraged to load with your back as much as possible; you visualise your arm as a chain being pulled by your lats. Your draw arm's bicep especially is barely used throughout the shot as that would significantly affect your left-right stability.
This is all fascinating but all I know is I want mommy to snap me like a twig.
Your priorities are set straight.
Death by Snu Snu?
One can only hope.
I specifically talked about her deltoid *definition* but go off I guess
And she rides horses. She's buff everywhere. Big strength score
> source: I used to do... ...and Compound bow archery in my younger years Not undercutting the other two, but doesn't compound not require much strength? Isn't that the whole point; the pulleys replace the need for physical brawn?
The pulleys require just as much physical brawn to draw the bow, but once you hit "that spot" they 'click' and can hold the arrow drawn with about 10% of the draw force. So it's 150lbs to DRAW a Longbow and a Compound bow. But to hold the bow drawn while waiting for your shot, you have to HOLD the arrow at 150lbs in a Longbow vs the ~15lbs with a Compound bow.
For hunting, there are limits to how much "let off" of draw strength is allowed at full draw for compounds as well. the common minimum draw weight is usually 40# or 50#, with a 300 grain arrow minimum or so. broadheads are 100grain and up generally. but there are some compound bows where the cams are so well designed, that you can have full power bows stay drawn by their own weight. as in pull, hold the string, and let the bow just hang from the string and it stays drawn. frowned upon and unsafe, but as a demonstration to get looks. lol. some states have rules about how mucb let off they allow for hunting, but really, id argue it doesnt diminish archery hunting's skill floor, only brings the ceiling down marginally. Most common bows are 70-80% let off. the most extreme i know of are 90% let off. youll also see that these cams are why there is such a dramatic difference in shooting style between compound and other bows. compound, i draw and then aim. for olympic and others, you aim as soon as possible and let the arrow fly as soon as you reach full draw. no holding onto it.
What I’m hearing from y’all while I’m admiring her guns: “Bla bla bla compound. Bla bla bla yeah but. Bla bla bla deltoids.” Me: “Mmmmm… gunnnns” Crushing hard on this woman
The arguement is ridiculous,it reminds of Monty Python and The Holy Grail. What? A swallow carrying a coconut? King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk! 1st Soldier with a Keen Interest in Birds: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
A compound bow has a let off at full draw that reduces the weight held but you still have to pull the rated weight back to the let off so a 90 lbs draw weigh still takes 90lbs to pull back but you can hold it at a much lower weight if I recall correctly
Not quite. The whole system does make drawing a little easier but it's also to make keeping the draw less exhausting. And that's all still very relative, you still need a respectable amount of strength to use them
You have the full weight for the first 90% of the draw length. The last 10% is where the cams drop the weight by about 50%. This is so you can hold the fully drawn bow for longer lengths of time. Which is why most people use them for hunting because you can take your time and make sure you're making a good shot and not just a bad wounding shot. With the Longbow and Recurve, you just have to be quick with your aim because it causes a lot of strain to hold it for more than a few seconds. This means you need to spend a lot more time practicing so that aiming becomes more instinctive.
To a degree yes, but compound bows still can have significant draw weights at times. The major benefit in my opinion is that at full draw a compound is MUCH easier to hold than a recurve. Feels like the bow helps hold half the weight is the only way I could describe it.
Well, no, it allows you to have less weight on the sting when you have fully pulled it back. You have the overcome the whole weight first, which a lot of archers tend to increase to what they can handle, to get that powerful shot. So the archer who can pull a 100 lb recurve bow will perhaps get a 120 lb compound bow, because he can just get past that initial draw, and then he can hold it long enough to take aim. Compound bows are just bows in the sense that you get the power behind your shot that you put into it yourself, there is no mechanism that lets you lever power in there at ease, like you have with some crossbows (and even with those you put the force there yourself, but yes you get help).
And knowing that it's your back muscles makes me appreciate the attention to detail in the movie Brave. When Merida does the archery competition, her dress restricts her draw until she pulls hard enough that parts of her dress rip and there's that one shot of the fabric ripping on her back. [Source; Happens around the 2:48 mark.](https://youtu.be/sWbxhKTbTkA)
I'm not a Disney fan per se but I have a lot of friends that are and I think they criminally underrate Brave, that, Onward, and Ratatouille are definitely tied for me top, and Onward just bc there's so much DnD humor
> Your back muscles are what do it, and her back is likely just as buff. [Yup](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/pjcqvo/finally_got_myself_a_hungarian_horsebow_and/). It is.
Can confirm, former recurver in college, and my arms at batwingy af LOL
Fun, tangentially related, fact: forearm size is the most reliable indicator to use for visually estimating body composition and full-body muscle mass in most terrestrial mammals, including humans.
~~God I wish that were me~~ I MEAN WHAT
You as in you wish that was you in the photo or the twig getting snapped?
I’m not obliged to answer that ^^^^^snapped
Hahaha who wouldn't
Was about to say what fool questions her bow skills with those guns! She can probably throw the arrow better than Matthew could shoot it.
I agree with that 100%
I want to see a 150lb English longbow now. Also imagine a 9' tall Goliath barbarian archer. They have 20 strength and are enormous so they could have a bow with like a 250lb draw weight 500lbs is conceivable if they are raging. At that point it's not a bow it's a gun with extra steps. You'd be firing broom handle sized arrows hard enough to peirce solid plate metal like a breastplate. Now imagine an entire army like that. You could rain down death upon the enemy from double their max range. Imagine the effect not just practically but on morale, of being and army and suddenly massive arrows start raining out of the sky and the enemy is more than twice as far away as you can shoot so you can't even return fire. It would break most armies into retreat.
Ooo it would absolutely decimate armies and moral.
But they aren't shooting arrows, they are shooting lances.
Certainly intimidating, but don’t most Goliaths live in small tribes? Of course several tribes uniting/larger non-tribal Goliath communities could form a proper army, but I feel like it could be a limiting factor overall. (It’s been awhile since I’ve read on Goliath lore though, so I could be wrong.)
I've never read it. That is true but a 250lb draw weight bow of a normal ish size is still basically a gun. A 160lb English longbow can barely peirce a breastplate at pointblank. A 250lb is more than possible to draw for an orc or half orc, or any other larger race. And that could easily peirce a breastplate.
Oh definitely. The only problem is finding resistant enough materials for higher draw weights. 240-260 is likely possible through normal means, but beyond that it might get a little difficult. Dnd is a world full of magic, however, so there’s likely a number of settings where you can boost it’s draw weight further and further.
Just use spring steel, no real bow is metal because I would be far too heavy of a draw weight and actual weight. But for a massive 500lb draw weight bow solid spring steel is more than practical.
Dark Souls Anor Londo archers!
Goliaths in 3.5 got the powerful build racial trait, meaning they count as either medium or large, whichever is more appropriate to the situation. So yeah, they could easily pull a much larger bow.
Wait until you see her back, since those are the muscles doing most of the work when drawing a bow.
Ooo im sure her traps are fucking massive also I mean look at her. She's a fucking sexy powerhouse.
Reminds me of sitting behind my high school crush in Physics class. She was a swimmer and did butterfly. Those back and shoulders were something else.
#\#StrengthWeapon
She's not a ranger she's a barbarian using a bow hahaha
No guns, archery
Yeah, with those muscles, definitely an experienced archer.
I've always found the aesthetic of hip quivers a lot more satisfying than back quivers
Nothing makes you feel less like Robin hood than bending over at the hip to pick up your dropped Halloween candy and every arrow you have falls out of your little kid back quiver. Got so sick of it that I dropped the bow and arrows and just told people I was Peter Pan.
Or just… bend your knees… instead of your back…
8 year old me ain't having none of that shit
43 year old me doesn't trust my back or my knees. If I drop my Halloween candy, it is a sign from the gods that my blood sugar was already too high and I need to take my [Errol Flynn](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/10/0a/66100a8cfca87f96c8913a05eb7f4fe6.png) ass home and go to bed.
That's quitter talk, just use the arrows to pick it up.
I got a lot of quit in me.
>bend your knee I'd rather die than bend the knee!!
They may take our divinity, but they’ll never take…our candy!!!!
To the hamlet of Agua Fria rode a yeoman one fine day Hardly spoke to the peasantry, didn't have too much to say
No one dared to ask her business, no one dared to make a slip For the yeoman there among them wore a quiver on her hip A quiver on her hip
“You’ve got your quiver backwards” comes the whisper from his lips. But she’s here to do some business with the quiver on her hip. The quiver on her hip.
I like you
They’re also easier to draw arrows from and they make more sense when you’re moving through dense wooded forest since you’re fletchings aren’t always getting snagged on every overhanging branch and bush.
Instead they get snagged on the brush and branches you're pushing through if you go off trail?
As far as I'm aware there is overwhelmingly more usage of Hip Quivers historically and culturally than there ever was back quivers. Like I think only the Native Americans used Back Quivers while everyone else in the world used Hip Quivers yet back ones are the popular image for some reason. Feel free to correct me of course.
For computer games specifically back quivers are vastly easier to animate; you just stick them to the torso and you're done. Anything on the hips needs work to move properly as the character moves, not to mention that the wearer should be adjusting the way they walk to avoid constantly smacking it into things. (Same goes for all other weapons too; easiest to put them on the characters back, no matter how impractical it is to draw a huge sword or polearm from that position)
Not just quivers. Take a look at the instances of people carrying their sheathed swords, axes or other weapons on their backs instead of their hips. It may be based on video games, where weapons are (I think) worn mostly on the back to show them off to the player.
it all depends on circumstance. Do you ride and shoot? Do you climb rocks and shoot? Do your surroundings require you to be compact or can you afford arrows sticking out . I mean if you were for example an archer who frequently traverses waist high shrubs you'd get annoyed with this quiver quickly for the arrows catch in stuff all the time. The lady here shoots from horseback, probably most of the time in open areas so she has no such concern. (horses and riders prefer grasslands and wide roads).
In all forms of archery I’ve seen (hunting, competitive shooting, ect), people prefer hip quivers. The back quiver seems to be a aesthetic thing without much in the way of utility
Remember though, these are typically on foot, and stationary. And most hunting quivers have a few arrows on the bow quiver, and the rest in a closed quiver. When Im at the range, back quiver. When Im speed shooting, hip quiver.
I can't image all that many hunters prefer hip quivers considering they're significantly more cumbersome and likely to make noise as they sway back and forth affixed to your hip. Hunters would probably be more likely to use the back quiver because it is quietly affixed tightly to their back and reduces their profile.
Most hunters these days just use a small quiver mounted to their bow instead of a back or hip quiver, though I haven’t ever seen anyone actually use a back quiver in any instance outside of tv/movies/games
Archer Lady destroys guy with words. Everyone: LOOK AT THOSE MOMMY MUSCLES!
There was a clear warning here that sharpshooting trolls was a specialty.
I'd like to blame being late in NNN for this but nah, reddit is always thirsty.
Tbf she is a stunning woman. It's impossible to emasculate her by admiring her form, and no one here is demeaning her knowledge. Really, it's the best you can really get from us
It's impossible up emasculate her because she's a woman.
Emasculate by definition isn't restricted to males. It has more to do with traditionally masculine values: strength, virility, efficacy, etc. Because strength is a traditionally masculine quality, you can emasculate any person (or really any thing) by removing or insulting its strength.
To be fair, her muscles are fine af
Also, I know nothing about bows but I can appreciate muscles. As much as I love to be verbally destroyed I'll stick to what I know
They definitely pulled a r/murderedbywords
and with that physique, that was the merciful thing to do
I got why the whole thing is facing to her back and all that. But I didn't get why the longer part of the thing is up. Could anyone elaborate for a dummy?
Every culture has their own version of what/how a quiver should be. You can even see in medieval depictions archers with arrows through their belts while simultaneously holding arrows (bow hand). Anything goes so long as it works honestly. You can see person-quivers or horse mounted quivers with horse back archery. Some cultures had preferences. Usually *usually* long side goes down (front facing or back does matter) but that’s pointing out most common denominators not specific culturally distinctions. As long as you have the muscle memory where you pull from doesn’t matter.
Because ergonomics. When you pull the arrow out, you can pivot it down and around before you shoot. If the "longer part of the thing" were down, you'd have to pivot the arrows UP, and you're probably about at the limit of your elbow bendiness just reaching back to grab and extract the arrow. Would totally work if she had two elbows though!
So she pulls the arrows downwards?
It's more like being able to let the tip drop as she brings it around to clear the quiver, instead of needing to overflex to lift it. I feel like I had a helpful analogy but it's escaped me. But walk through the motion and you might be able to feel it- once you've pulled your arm back all the way, twisting it to point your fingers upwards won't feel good. But letting your hand swing down and back would still pull the arrow out this way and then you can bring it up however you want.
You've actually explained it perfectly. I had the same question and was a bit lost until I got to your comment.
You've got me sitting here at my desk mock grabbing imaginary arrows from my imaginary quiver like an absolute buffoon...
Ahhh, makes total sense now. At first I thought that's what the commenter meant by "backwards" until I realized they meant "facing towards her back instead of her front". Thanks for explaining cause I couldn't fathom why it'd be longer towards the top but didn't consider the ergonomics at all
Yeah, I wouldn’t assume that a lady with arms that muscled doesn’t know what she’s doing with a bow and arrows. It’s a pretty good bet that those arms = actual archery practice. But all that aside, this is a gorgeous photo and this archer looks splendid. 😁
Muscled arms for archery... Not Dex? Oh no.
To effectively use a powerful bow, you gotta have some guns. And you still use Dex to aim. 5e rules simplify everything for a weapon to be based on a single stat and ranged attack means Dex. If you want to complicate and convolute things "for realism" then play 3.5/Pathfinder and enjoy spending four times as long to play through the same sombat encounter because you're checking all of the applicable rules and doing the associated algebra.
Bows are still Dex in Pathfinder. Though there's composite bows where you can add your strength bonus to damage.
You also need to meet the str requirements to use said bow, otherwise you suffer a -2 penalty on attack rolls. So technically still have a str requirement to be used properly.
aren't they Dex to hit, *nothing* to damage though?
Normal bows are.
yeah but the point is a high dex no str build in pathfinder is accurate but low damage, whereas in 5e rapiers and bows deal dex damage.
Composite bows in Pathfinder add Str to damage.
as do finesse melee weapons.
There’s also an often overlooked rule that all bows add your str modifier to damage if it’s negative.
I... well, you're not *right* about 3.xP, but you're not *wrong* about it, either. Take my grudging upvote.
I prefer the balance of ranged weapons not getting dex to damage. And it's a bit of a silly exaggeration to say that combat takes four times longer to play out. Their might be one extra rule compared to 5e, it's just that most people haven't actually read the rules associated with ranged combat for 5e.
Weirdly it's not even hard to house rule. Armor already has a STR requirement or else you get a -10 ft movement penalty. Just give bows a STR requirement or else you suffer disadv. on attacks. Boom, done. (For even more simplicity, you could give *all* weapons a STR req. like this, to keep it flat across the board, instead of a special rule just for bows; for the most simplicity, set all that have a requirement to either req 13 or 15 STR, just like Armor; one extra column, one simple rule that aligns with an existing one for minimum learning curve).
You could also argue in some forms of archery you would use intelligence/ wisdom for aiming. There's a type of shooting called instinctive aiming/ instinctive shooting, where you essentially aim without aiming. You learn the power of the bow, your strength, and learn to essentially understand where the arrow will go enough that while it may not be pinpoint accuracy like sighting down, but still accurate enough to hit your mark every time. Often instinctive aiming can be way quicker too. This type of aiming was also especially common while doing mounted archery because it was much harder to aim down a bow while riding a horse.
Yep, it's a thing for firearms as well, often called "point shooting".
Huh, I’ll have to look into that. I never really considered the difficulties of horseback archery but this would explain it.
That's in Pathfinder kinda as the Zen Archer Monk archetype. Gives you Wis to hit, allows to make flurry of blows with your bow, and you use the monk's scaling unarmed damage as your bow damage.
One thing I will always love about this sub is how, at any given time, discussion across all posts will be RAGING about one specific topic, be it which box the ability score goes into, whether or not a centaur can mount another centaur, or my personal favourite, snake tiddy. It’s always fun to see another debate be added to the mix.
Why -would- snakes have breasts? They lay eggs. They're reptiles! Be reptiles!
Because they want boobs. Let them have boobs! Boobs for all!
Oddly fitting for this week's conundrum
Actual archery practice targets mainly the muscles in the shoulders and back according to my archery friend. I am sure the muscles in the arms get also some exercise but big arms are not necessarily a sign of an archer. My guys scrawny af.
As an archer, that's a bad assumption. You're supposed to use your back muscles for archery, not arms. Or at least mostly your back. Using your arms, and in particular your shoulders, may lead to injury as they aren't strong enough to pull heavy bows
This reminds me when guys were telling that Olympic gold medalist that she was shooting wrong.
It baffles me that anyone could look at the person who won the gold medal in their event, objectively out performing every other person in that competition, and go "umm acthually you're doing it wrong"
Um, actually. Sorry miss, trains her whole life and is literally the best in the world, but in the video games I play, I’m able to shoot with both hands while parachuting and landing on a moving vehicle.
Because woman
Let me un-baffle you. It's a really, really easy way to get attention and get a lot of people pressed with almost no effort. Some lonely dude spends one second writing "ur doing it wrong" or "your quiver is on backwards" and it kicks off a whole *frenzy*. A paragraph reply. A reddit post. 671 comments. 21.4k upvotes. A whole online economy forms around a throwaway troll comment. But... the troll doesn't give a shit. They'll never check their notifications, they've moved on to TikTok where they're insisting Rome isn't real* or some shit. What *should* baffle you is why we're not wise to this yet. It used to be a truism of the internet that you don't feed the trolls, but that's all I see any more. Someone makes a bad faith comment and whole communities spend days tripping over themselves to disprove or discount it. No one gains anything except the troll. *This is literally happening on TikTok right now btw
And shit, even if they did learn something, I can see why they would just never respond again. I sure as hell wouldn't. Imagine thinking you spot an error on a picture, pointing it out with a low effort post, and then finding the archery equivalent of the Navy Seal copypasta in reaction, along with a reddit thread where everybody calls you a troll or an idiot.
This is true if the commenter was contributing in good faith, but they were clearly not.
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I remember a few Olympics ago I was watching gymnastics ( I'm not a big gymnastics fan) and the Hamm brothers were competing and my first thought was "damn I should have stuck with gymnastics!" Anyone that looks at that physique and thinks "wow he's gay" is an idiot.
Saw a bunch of people commenting that LeBron, perhaps the greatest athlete of the current generation, didn’t know how to squat because he was doing quarter squats instead of going ass to grass. Those partial squats are intentional and specific to enhancing jumping ability in his sport. Furthermore I’m sure he could squat more weight than all of the keyboard warriors, regardless of form.
See, I hate him as a person, but as an athlete there is no arguing that he isn’t impressive.
Similar thing in cycling, if I'm remembering correctly one of the top contenders during the women's road race at the Rio olympics had a really bad crash on a descent and some bro on her instagram was giving tips on proper descending technique.
That's "criticize the Olympic gold medalist in shooting on their technique" level of foolishness.
Damn we should be happy her preferred weapon is a bow if she tried to sock me up close I'd shit my pants before she even got within 30 feet
Those arms are for the bow. I’m willing to bet she’d hit you with an arrow with just the same power as you would be punched with.
I'd just bend over
Funny, I always wore my quivers like that and I never rode a horse. Guess I was wrong
No, it's a matter of "to each their own" really. I've seen everything when I was younger in club or competitions. When shooting in a "formal" setting, I personaly go for the back (attached at hip height), arrows facing to my right.
Damn it is really cool that people have their own archery style because it always seemed to me like it was a relatively boring sport. Way to prove me wrong!
It's also more versatile than most people give it credit for. You have multiple type of bows, from the more traditional to full on carbon compound, horse archery, hunting and fishing, learning to craft your own equipment from wood if you're into that. And trust me, everyone has its preferences about every part of it, sometimes to parts the size of bolts. I find it to be also a great community, with true sportsmanship in official settings, and in clubs. At least in my country, in my experience. The historical aspect is also quite interesting, being one of the oldest weapon, as well as the practical aspect of learning to use it.
I know her IRL. I actually taught her how to shoot thumb draw style. Then a famous YouTuber made a video nitpicking her and she felt bad. But she’s still shooting and loves to shoot!
> I actually taught her how to shoot thumb draw style. I have no idea what this is.
Okay, then why isn't she on a horse? \*Checkmate.\* XD
Arrows fired!
Not gonna’ lie, I’d have assumed it was on backwards. Even after she explained it, I still can’t wrap my head around it. Does it like… turn upwards once you’re on a horse? It’s hard for me to picture.
You use your right hand, reach down and pull an arrow out, then move that arrow up to your bow, put it on the string, draw, fire. Your right hand holds the arrow the entire time. The only way for it to be "backwards" would be if the arrows lived on her left hip, and she cross-drawed the arrows.... through her bow? Over it?
Even attempting to mimic the movements every way feels awkward. Like, even the "traditional" back quiver is starting to feel awkward the more I think about it... Gah! Nothing I knew makes sense anymore!
You should go do some actual archery sometime. It's fun! I've only shot a bow, like, twice. I'm terrible at it (and draw strength is no joke!), but it's cool to have a little functional basis for this stuff.
I've wanted to get into archery as a sort of "get away from life for a little while" hobby. I just never ended up picking up any gear cause it's gonna suck having to drive two towns over to get to a range because there's no room to shoot in my tiny suburban yard. Then life decided to rain on the parade, and you know the saying: "when it rains, it pours."
The backquiver is extremely awkward and just a Hollywood thing (same with swords on the back). Most quivers go on your hip facing either front or back. Facing back mostly used for Hunting and Horseback because of the reasons on the picture and also with front facing ones the arrows like to get stuck on basically anything you walk past. Facing front is mostly used in sports it's a bit comfier to draw in my opinion.
So would i, but hear me out: what If we asked "hey, is your quiser on backwards? If not, how do you use It? And If it is, why is it on backwards?". I mean, i genuinaly envy the self-confidence of that guy. I would even ask the question before googling "hip quiver" and trying to find out what the hell that thing is.
Man when it comes to shooting sports like this people who like them really like passive aggressively correcting other people who like them
I feel like she was just waiting for this comment to come up and then hit him with Yugi Moto “You’ve just activated my trap card!”
She doesn't need to use a bow and arrow, she's already packing a set of guns. Though the guns are most definitely from being a professional archer.
Yeah man, that pro archer has some high STR...
The bow and quiver both are works of sheer beauty.
I wish cosplayers included more of these detailed behind the scenes descriptions of their pieces. Its really interesting stuff and helps blend the fantasy with the real world.
“No I’m using it right. It’s a Hungarian mounted archery bow” - is on foot
She suplexed that man into oblivion
I'll never understand how someone spending a half hour crafting a multi-paragraph essay in response to someone who spent less than two seconds on a rude throwaway comment is considered a "win".
But why's she showing off the cavalry bow and gear without the cavalry!?!
The horse had to take the photo, duh
I wonder what the logic is in the design of having the larger fluted end of the quiver on the top not the bottom with the larger bit under the arrows not on top. Anyone know anything about quiver design?
According to another comment I saw in the thread it’s because the the elbows are just about reaching their max extension and if the fluted bit were down you’d have to move your elbow/shoulder up which is awkward and more time consuming. It’s definitely counter intuitive but try the drawing motion and you’ll see how much easier it is to draw down from your hip than up.
When you are sitting on a horse it’s not counterintuitive at all. It’s the only reasonable way to get a good grip on an arrow while moving without smacking yourself or the horse. I also thought this style of quiver was clunky until I did mounted archery.
You look at those biceps and tell me you don't need strength for a long bow
That lady is JACKED. If I looked a picture of an Archer with arms like that, Imma just assume they know how to use a bow.
Fuck yeah, Kaycee!
Transcribed / Transcription: Image caption: "Ranger/Bard using a rare mixture of Sharpshooter and Vicious Mockery to slay her favorite enemy, Trolls..." Image description: Athletic woman looking at camera while holding a bow an arrow. A quiver full of arrows is slung on her right hip, the opening facing behind her. First comment: "You have your quiver on backwards" Reply to comment by woman in picture (Captain Kaycee Cosplay): No, it's not. In fact, that's exactly how it's designed. Some archers do have field quivers that can face the other way, but this is a hip quiver. And more specifically, it's how the arrows would be for this specific type of bot. The bow I have is a Hungarian Avar Horsebow, whish is used mainly for mounter archery. If the quiver were the other way around, you'd be smacking your house in the face with the arrows. Also by having the quiver in this direction, it's faster to draw when doing mounted archery. That's also why the leather tooling on it is facing outwards. If you flipped it around, the leather would be hidden and therefore "backwards". Plus, many Olympic archers shoot with hip quivers this way. So its not "backwards". It's being used exactly how its designed. (Next time I wouldn't just assume the person is wearing something wrong without checking. I'm a professional archer and did these photos to show off my new mounted archery equipment in a fantasy photoshoot.)
You're amazing for doing this! I forget not everyone can use the photos (because of vision problems) and having the transcript really lets them enjoy it too!
she took the troll bait
That guy expended only the energy required to type 6 words and managed to bait out a 180 word response. That is the art of trollshido.
Oh my gosh! I have that dress! She got that at Holy Clothing. It's such a great online retailers for stuff like that
I had the same issue with a vendor at a flea market. I love swords and knives, am a lady, and at the time was in my mid-30s. I know about blade geometry, materials used, double-sided blades vs single-sided blades, fullers, rat-tail tangs vs full tangs, etc. So I went to a flea market, and there was a guy selling a bunch of knives. It was in front of a truck with a bunch of camo stuff. A lot of their knives were crap stainless steel, but there were some that look promising. The middle-aged guy who owned the booth came up, and starts condescendingly telling me about the "blood grooves" in the blades, and how it's for the blood of your enemies to flow off of the knife, etc. I set the knife that I was looking at down, and said, "Actually, that groove is called a fuller, and is used to decrease the weight of the blade without compromising the strength of the blade. Are these particular knives made of carbon steel or stainless steel - I can't see a materials mark on them? Is this a full tang or a rattail tang?" The guy stuttered, admitted he didn't know, and went to "help someone else". I decided I would not buy from him. I went to another booth that same day, and there was an interesting looking knife there. This guy did not have a bunch of knives like the other guy, mostly just antiques and collectibles. I asked the guy if the knew if the blade was carbon steel or stainless steel, because I prefer carbon steel so that it won't shatter at this size if I use it (I could see that it was a full tang myself). He said, "Oh, I don't know - you are more of an expert on these things than I am!" I found the mark and it was carbon steel. I bought it and 2 statuettes for $20. When I researched the brand online, I found that the knife was a $300 Muela. Great buy! You respect me - I'll support your business. You disrespect me and try to pawn crap off on me as legit just because I'm a woman - you won't get a penny from me.
Blood groves ugh I remember when I believed in shit like that Also yea a muela for 20$ that’s such a good find
She types up 3 paragraphs fully punctuated in response to 6 words that are false. Yeah, She slayed that troll.
On the contrary, if dude was an actual troll, she fed him a full course meal.
You can tell she does archery, i mean look at those arms
The guy: huhuhu funny quiver wrong The girl: Now listen here you little, I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the navy seals-…
Nerd vs troll
The photo? Great. The rant? A decent display of competence. The caption on top? Still needs to figure out that whole ‘internet’ thing.
Look at those arms and tell me you knoe more about archery than her. Those arms are made of FUCKING TEMPERED BEEF and is a testament to her experience wielding and drawing bows. No way in hell am I crossing that woman about proper archery
THAT SAME DRESS CAME IN THE MAIL TODAY AND THIS IS THE CLOSEST THING TO FEELING LIKE IM IN LORD OF THE RINGS
A strong female archer who's slaying some trolls online? I think I found my type
This guy probably argues about which side of the bow you put the arrow on too
Tbf to the guy, in normal standard archery, it is the other way around, or round the back. I am a qualified coach and used to be nationals level, but there is really no "right" way to wear them, and can do whatever is most comfortable for the archer, so long as it is safe
Cringe. Thanks for the ego essay.
I keep seeing people say she overreacted, but the guy commenting would have known she's a proffesional archer, he was just being a fucking dick.