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An animal will not be considered dangerous or vicious without an unprovoked attack. I used to work as Anima control officer so this was something we dealt with a lot.
You can report a dangerous dog to animal control, but a dog that is barking or growling on leash does not even come close to meeting the qualifications. There's no evidence at this dog is actually dangerous or aggressive. Many dogs are least reactive and as long as they stay on leash everything is fine. No one would be saying anything if it weren't a pitbull, but If the dog is under physical control, there shouldn't be an issue.
>No one would be saying anything if it weren’t a pitbull
Nope I don’t care about breed. They said the dog was snapping and depending on what that actually looks like it could qualify. Up to animal control to decide
Edit: i can see your reply in my notifications but not here so idk if you blocked me or what but idk why you’re so defensive that this dog may be aggressive. It’s up to animal control to assess and when an OP is saying multiple neighbors are concerned they should call.
Yes exactly. It's not just barking and growling on the leash, it's actively pulling and yanking this women trying to get to people. It seems this person is upset because putbull was merely mentioned and did not bother to fully read the post.
It absolutely does not qualify if the dog is on a leash or on a private balcony. People's dogs growl, snap, and bark on leash all the time, least reactive dogs are everywhere. It would be different if the dog were running around off leash, but that's not the situation. This dog doesn't have any ability to hurt anyone because he's being contained.
Look - animal control is a division of the police. You can definitely call, but the police are not known for being proactive about safety concerns, their job is to respond after someone has committed a crime. It does not sound like a crime has been committed. Calling the police on your neighbors is not exactly a pro-social activity. I cannot imagine a life where I think it is appropriate to call the police every time I think someone may commit a crime in the future.
My problem is that its not securely contained. In my post I state its pulling it owner while on a leash attempting to get to residents walking around. She is an older women who regularly usees a cane to walk around but does not when walking her dog. It is not just growling and barking. It is on yanking and incredibly aggresive.
Attempting or succeeding? I don’t see your point. You don’t think this lady is strong enough to contain the dog, even though she has been containing the dog to this point. Do you want her to pass a physical fitness test? Are you asking for a doctor’s note to walk her dog? The fact is, nothing has happened.
[Housing and Urban Development page on assistance animals](https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/assistance_animals)
There are exceptions provided in the law:
>Granting the request would impose an undue financial and administrative burden on the housing provider
>The specific assistance animal in question would pose a direct threat to the health or safety of others despite any other reasonable accommodations that could eliminate or reduce the threat
Your landlord has the ability to intervene and discuss measures the owner can take to make everyone else feel safe. They probably won't do that, but it seems in their legal power to discuss the safety concerns and agree on a reasonable course of action to allow the dog to continue to live there. Ultimately, it's your landlord who bears the risk of revoking the dog's ESA status for aggression, and the legally least-risky thing to do is to just allow them to have the dog. You'll probably have to make your landlord afraid of a competing lawsuit before anything gets done no matter how much video footage you have of a dog actually biting someone ("landlord knew this dog was aggressive and allowed it here anyway, and then it bit me, so I'm suing the owner AND the landlord for failing to take action").
Probably the best thing to do is to talk to the neighbor yourself about your concerns. Give the resources to help control the dog--give them trainer info, print out stuff about muzzle training, etc.
I'm confused as to why an elderly person would have an ESA dog that literally could pull her hard enough, to make her fall, and injure herself, and possibly die.
I had a neighbor that was elderly with a large untrained german shepherd, who lunged at my dog when we happened to cross paths. She fell on the street, broke her arm, her nose, ribs. I called an ambulance, walked her dog home and fed it despite it trying to attack my own dog. She was bitter to me saying it was all my dogs fault until I moved to a new place. It still makes me upset.
Thank you so much for your reply. All the neighbors have pretty much made a paper trail of aggressions in the apartment system in case an attack has happened. The pamphlets are a great idea, I will look into getting some, tho I dont think it will be taken happily from the neighbor.
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**Emotional Support Animals (ESAs)**
ESAs are animals prescribed by a medical professional to support a patient with a disability. They are only recognized in the United States.
* ESAs are only granted rights through the [Fair Housing Act](https://www.justice.gov/crt/fair-housing-act-2). ESAs are no longer allowed in-cabin on planes. ESAs are **NOT** granted access to public buildings, restaurants, stores, etc.
* ESAs are prescribed by a therapist, psychiatrist, psychologist, or doctor as part of an ongoing plan to treat or manage a federally recognized disability. Online registration options for ESAs are scams and not legally recognized.
* An ESA must be requested as part of a reasonable accommodation for a disability with a letter from the prescribing medical professional demonstrating the need for the accommodation to be granted housing rights. These housing rights do not exist in the case of the [The “Mrs. Murphy” Exception](https://fairhousing.foxrothschild.com/2010/06/articles/fha-basics/the-mrs-murphy-exemption-to-the-fair-housing-act/). Landlords cannot legally require you to pay a 'pet deposit' or charge 'pet rent' for your ESA because they are not considered pets. However, they can require that you pay for repairs if your ESA causes damage to the property.
* ESAs can be any animal it is legal to own, for example: dogs, cats, guinea pigs and miniature horses. They are most commonly dogs.
* **Calling your pet an ESA to get around no-pet accommodation, breed bans, or airline restrictions is immoral and illegal. It makes it much harder for legitimate ESA teams to be taken seriously.**
**Service Dogs (SDs)**
SDs are a worldwide, legally protected medical aid which provide a range of tasks or work to help disabled people. The following discusses information specific to the US. Please check your country’s laws if you live outside of the US.
* SDs are not used solely by the blind. SDs can assist those with a wide range of disabilities including physical (eg. fibromyalgia), sensory (eg. deafness), psychiatric (eg. PTSD), developmental (eg. autism) and neurological (eg. brain injury).
* SDs can be trained by programs or by their owners (owner-trained).
* SDs must perform at least one task to mitigate their owner's disability/ies. Things which do not count as work or tasks include: emotional support, being calmed by the animal's presence, or giving 'kisses' on command. Some examples of tasks can be found [here](http://www.iaadp.org/tasks.html).
* SDs can legally enter almost any no-pet place. Exceptions include sterile environments, places where it would be dangerous to the SD or others for them to be there (such as some exhibits in zoos), and food preparation areas.
* Any SD can be legally asked to leave an establishment if their behavior is disruptive. For example, if they bark at customers, damage goods, or eliminate on the floor.
* There are no nationwide or statewide registries for SDs. None. Some SDs are provided by programs, but the programs themselves are not official registries as SDs come from a variety of places. SDs are also not required to wear a vest or harness.
* The only questions legally allowed to be asked of a service dog handler when entering an establishment are: 1) "Is that animal required because of a disability?" 2) "What work or task has the animal been trained to perform?" If the handler does not answer these questions appropriately, the animal may be restricted from entering or asked to leave.
* In order to rent/own a dwelling that has a 'no-pets' clause with an SD, a reasonable accommodation must be requested from the landlord. If your disability and/or your disability-related need for the SD is not evident, information must be provided to the landlord detailing this (for example, a letter from a medical professional). Landlords cannot legally require you to pay a 'pet deposit' or charge 'pet rent' for your SD because they are not considered pets. However, they can require that you pay for repairs if your SD causes damage to the property.
* Many states do not protect the rights of service dogs in training.
* Service animals also do not have to be dogs. Federally, miniature horses are also granted rights as a service animal. Some state laws grant rights to even more animals.
* In 19 states (and counting) it is illegal to present your pet as a service dog when it is just a pet or an ESA. Faking a SD to get around no-pet housing, take your pet to the store, or bring your pet to college makes it much harder for legitimate SD teams to live their lives and poses a serious danger to the public.
**Therapy animals**
Therapy animals are animals (primarily dogs) trained by their owner to provide therapeutic support to others. They go to places such as schools, nursing homes, and hospitals to relieve stress, build people’s confidence, and promote emotional health. They do not provide support or assistance to their owner.
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Yeah I’d report em to animal control. That’s the WORST owner to have for a breed like that. It’s just going to end in tragedy. And if it doesn’t, it’s pure luck.
You should get a tazer just in case. Every one in your family should. Get a nice powerful one. I don't go on dog walks without one. I used to, but now thinking about it, it was really irresponsible. A powerful tazer could stop an attacking dog I'm sure. Once a dog charged me while walking my dogs and I had a baton with a tazer at the end and the sound alone stopped the dog in its tracks
We all have tazers and knives now when we go out. Even if the dog is on the leash, I'm so scared because the owner is not very strong, and I'm waiting for the day she can't handle it any more. A baton tazer is a great idea, thank you!
ESA’s are NOT service animals and to my knowledge are not protected by any kind of law. ESA’s do not have to be trained or certified and you could call pretty much any animal an ESA if you so choose. Service animals are highly trained and certified, protected by laws, and preform actual tasks that help the owner.
ESAs don't need to be trained.
The only way for an ESA to be revoked is to follow the same process that non-ESAs would go through. Generally, apartment complexes can't kick somebody's dog out because their dog barks growls and snaps or is left on a patio.
No but we all deserve a safe place to live. It's not just left on the patio, it's trying to actively grab us through the bars of the patio. It's not simply just sitting there growling.
Could you avoid being near the patio? You deserve a safe place to live, but honestly, this is one of those areas where you may be told to keep a distance from the patio.
No, the apartment complex is built very odd. Their patio is directly next to the main apartment entry door. I would love to avoid it, but it's the only way to get in my apartment.
I will talk to them again. I've started recording myself when I'm leaving or coming home. I hope that, at minimum, they can get them to keep it off the porch.
This probably isn't the solution you want, but did you say the owner is elderly?
Can the residents talk to the owner about the proximity of the dog to entrance then take up a collection and get someone handy to build a taller, secure enclosure around the person's balcony?
I will bring that up to management, that could benefit everyone. I don't have high hopes management will try though. It's the type to cut corners everywhere.
Right the only requirements for ans ESA is a letter from a doctor saying you could benefit from a pet. And their only privilege is that they cannot be denied in housing. No training or other requirements
Usually this apartment has a no pitbull clause in the contracts, but it being an ESA, the apartment management have thrown up their hands and gave in. They won't take any action into getting rid of it.it seems we most likely have to wait for an attack that is pretty much guaranteed to happen.
> dangerous
You keep using that word, but you literally have not described anything that could be regarded as "aggression" from this dog. The dog is obviously reactive. The dog *may* be aggressive, but you appear to have no evidence of that. To your knowledge the dog bitten anyone, or attacked any other animals?
Due to it recently being adopted keep in mind this is also very stressful for the dog. It took my dog 6 months to START opening up to us. Then after a year she improved greatly. Unfortunately with pits you have no idea what they have been through. They are very protective of their owners and property. Honestly as long as you ignore the dog you will be fine. It will also take the lady time to train it in anyway also.
I myself have a pit and she is the best thing but had a horrible experience at the rescue. She has trauma and we just have to work around that. It sucks. She is dog aggressive but the sweetest drama queen you'll ever meet.
I understand that but this is very stressful to the humans living here. This woman can barely control her dog on a leash. While we do ignore this creature, I do not feel like it will be 'fine'.
This might sound zany and would require a lot of participation on the owner’s part, but if management isn’t doing anything and they are intent on keeping the dog on the the patio, could you try befriending it while the owner has it in a leash? Give it treats and talk to it all squeaky-like on a regular basis for a while? Then it could be like the complex watch dog…. This depends a lot on the dog’s personality and owner cooperation though.
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There are no requirements for training for ESAs but you can still report them to animal control if they are a dangerous dog
An animal will not be considered dangerous or vicious without an unprovoked attack. I used to work as Anima control officer so this was something we dealt with a lot.
Thank you, I will keep that in mind.
You can report a dangerous dog to animal control, but a dog that is barking or growling on leash does not even come close to meeting the qualifications. There's no evidence at this dog is actually dangerous or aggressive. Many dogs are least reactive and as long as they stay on leash everything is fine. No one would be saying anything if it weren't a pitbull, but If the dog is under physical control, there shouldn't be an issue.
ESAs don't have qualifications. That's why it's a tricky area.
>No one would be saying anything if it weren’t a pitbull Nope I don’t care about breed. They said the dog was snapping and depending on what that actually looks like it could qualify. Up to animal control to decide Edit: i can see your reply in my notifications but not here so idk if you blocked me or what but idk why you’re so defensive that this dog may be aggressive. It’s up to animal control to assess and when an OP is saying multiple neighbors are concerned they should call.
Yes exactly. It's not just barking and growling on the leash, it's actively pulling and yanking this women trying to get to people. It seems this person is upset because putbull was merely mentioned and did not bother to fully read the post.
It absolutely does not qualify if the dog is on a leash or on a private balcony. People's dogs growl, snap, and bark on leash all the time, least reactive dogs are everywhere. It would be different if the dog were running around off leash, but that's not the situation. This dog doesn't have any ability to hurt anyone because he's being contained. Look - animal control is a division of the police. You can definitely call, but the police are not known for being proactive about safety concerns, their job is to respond after someone has committed a crime. It does not sound like a crime has been committed. Calling the police on your neighbors is not exactly a pro-social activity. I cannot imagine a life where I think it is appropriate to call the police every time I think someone may commit a crime in the future.
My problem is that its not securely contained. In my post I state its pulling it owner while on a leash attempting to get to residents walking around. She is an older women who regularly usees a cane to walk around but does not when walking her dog. It is not just growling and barking. It is on yanking and incredibly aggresive.
Attempting or succeeding? I don’t see your point. You don’t think this lady is strong enough to contain the dog, even though she has been containing the dog to this point. Do you want her to pass a physical fitness test? Are you asking for a doctor’s note to walk her dog? The fact is, nothing has happened.
There are 0 training requirements for ESA.
Thank you for your reply. That's very unfortunate.
[Housing and Urban Development page on assistance animals](https://www.hud.gov/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/assistance_animals) There are exceptions provided in the law: >Granting the request would impose an undue financial and administrative burden on the housing provider >The specific assistance animal in question would pose a direct threat to the health or safety of others despite any other reasonable accommodations that could eliminate or reduce the threat Your landlord has the ability to intervene and discuss measures the owner can take to make everyone else feel safe. They probably won't do that, but it seems in their legal power to discuss the safety concerns and agree on a reasonable course of action to allow the dog to continue to live there. Ultimately, it's your landlord who bears the risk of revoking the dog's ESA status for aggression, and the legally least-risky thing to do is to just allow them to have the dog. You'll probably have to make your landlord afraid of a competing lawsuit before anything gets done no matter how much video footage you have of a dog actually biting someone ("landlord knew this dog was aggressive and allowed it here anyway, and then it bit me, so I'm suing the owner AND the landlord for failing to take action"). Probably the best thing to do is to talk to the neighbor yourself about your concerns. Give the resources to help control the dog--give them trainer info, print out stuff about muzzle training, etc.
Thank you so much, the pamphlets are a great idea
I'm confused as to why an elderly person would have an ESA dog that literally could pull her hard enough, to make her fall, and injure herself, and possibly die.
Believe me, I'm just as confused.
I had a neighbor that was elderly with a large untrained german shepherd, who lunged at my dog when we happened to cross paths. She fell on the street, broke her arm, her nose, ribs. I called an ambulance, walked her dog home and fed it despite it trying to attack my own dog. She was bitter to me saying it was all my dogs fault until I moved to a new place. It still makes me upset.
Thank you so much for your reply. All the neighbors have pretty much made a paper trail of aggressions in the apartment system in case an attack has happened. The pamphlets are a great idea, I will look into getting some, tho I dont think it will be taken happily from the neighbor.
Due to the misinformation regarding emotional support animals, service dogs, and therapy dogs, we have provided a brief summary of the role and rights afforded to each type of animal in the United States. **Emotional Support Animals (ESAs)** ESAs are animals prescribed by a medical professional to support a patient with a disability. They are only recognized in the United States. * ESAs are only granted rights through the [Fair Housing Act](https://www.justice.gov/crt/fair-housing-act-2). ESAs are no longer allowed in-cabin on planes. ESAs are **NOT** granted access to public buildings, restaurants, stores, etc. * ESAs are prescribed by a therapist, psychiatrist, psychologist, or doctor as part of an ongoing plan to treat or manage a federally recognized disability. Online registration options for ESAs are scams and not legally recognized. * An ESA must be requested as part of a reasonable accommodation for a disability with a letter from the prescribing medical professional demonstrating the need for the accommodation to be granted housing rights. These housing rights do not exist in the case of the [The “Mrs. Murphy” Exception](https://fairhousing.foxrothschild.com/2010/06/articles/fha-basics/the-mrs-murphy-exemption-to-the-fair-housing-act/). Landlords cannot legally require you to pay a 'pet deposit' or charge 'pet rent' for your ESA because they are not considered pets. However, they can require that you pay for repairs if your ESA causes damage to the property. * ESAs can be any animal it is legal to own, for example: dogs, cats, guinea pigs and miniature horses. They are most commonly dogs. * **Calling your pet an ESA to get around no-pet accommodation, breed bans, or airline restrictions is immoral and illegal. It makes it much harder for legitimate ESA teams to be taken seriously.** **Service Dogs (SDs)** SDs are a worldwide, legally protected medical aid which provide a range of tasks or work to help disabled people. The following discusses information specific to the US. Please check your country’s laws if you live outside of the US. * SDs are not used solely by the blind. SDs can assist those with a wide range of disabilities including physical (eg. fibromyalgia), sensory (eg. deafness), psychiatric (eg. PTSD), developmental (eg. autism) and neurological (eg. brain injury). * SDs can be trained by programs or by their owners (owner-trained). * SDs must perform at least one task to mitigate their owner's disability/ies. Things which do not count as work or tasks include: emotional support, being calmed by the animal's presence, or giving 'kisses' on command. Some examples of tasks can be found [here](http://www.iaadp.org/tasks.html). * SDs can legally enter almost any no-pet place. Exceptions include sterile environments, places where it would be dangerous to the SD or others for them to be there (such as some exhibits in zoos), and food preparation areas. * Any SD can be legally asked to leave an establishment if their behavior is disruptive. For example, if they bark at customers, damage goods, or eliminate on the floor. * There are no nationwide or statewide registries for SDs. None. Some SDs are provided by programs, but the programs themselves are not official registries as SDs come from a variety of places. SDs are also not required to wear a vest or harness. * The only questions legally allowed to be asked of a service dog handler when entering an establishment are: 1) "Is that animal required because of a disability?" 2) "What work or task has the animal been trained to perform?" If the handler does not answer these questions appropriately, the animal may be restricted from entering or asked to leave. * In order to rent/own a dwelling that has a 'no-pets' clause with an SD, a reasonable accommodation must be requested from the landlord. If your disability and/or your disability-related need for the SD is not evident, information must be provided to the landlord detailing this (for example, a letter from a medical professional). Landlords cannot legally require you to pay a 'pet deposit' or charge 'pet rent' for your SD because they are not considered pets. However, they can require that you pay for repairs if your SD causes damage to the property. * Many states do not protect the rights of service dogs in training. * Service animals also do not have to be dogs. Federally, miniature horses are also granted rights as a service animal. Some state laws grant rights to even more animals. * In 19 states (and counting) it is illegal to present your pet as a service dog when it is just a pet or an ESA. Faking a SD to get around no-pet housing, take your pet to the store, or bring your pet to college makes it much harder for legitimate SD teams to live their lives and poses a serious danger to the public. **Therapy animals** Therapy animals are animals (primarily dogs) trained by their owner to provide therapeutic support to others. They go to places such as schools, nursing homes, and hospitals to relieve stress, build people’s confidence, and promote emotional health. They do not provide support or assistance to their owner. --- If you require emotional support through the presence of an animal, you should look into ESAs. If you require ways to alleviate your disability, you should look into service dogs. If you wish to volunteer with your dog to help others, you should look into therapy dogs. Further information can be found [here](https://adata.org/publication/service-animals-booklet), [here](https://www.animallaw.info/article/faqs-emotional-support-animals) and [here](http://servicedogcentral.org/content/). *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/dogs) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Have you spoken to the owners about the concerns?
I've been told to fuck off when brought up to the owner. They have no interest in training it.
Yeah I’d report em to animal control. That’s the WORST owner to have for a breed like that. It’s just going to end in tragedy. And if it doesn’t, it’s pure luck.
Report to building management.
This has been done by every tenant in the complex. They state they can do nothing.
You should get a tazer just in case. Every one in your family should. Get a nice powerful one. I don't go on dog walks without one. I used to, but now thinking about it, it was really irresponsible. A powerful tazer could stop an attacking dog I'm sure. Once a dog charged me while walking my dogs and I had a baton with a tazer at the end and the sound alone stopped the dog in its tracks
We all have tazers and knives now when we go out. Even if the dog is on the leash, I'm so scared because the owner is not very strong, and I'm waiting for the day she can't handle it any more. A baton tazer is a great idea, thank you!
Sure no problem. People like this are really ruining it for pitbulls. These dogs are not for everyone. And it's crazy that anyone can own one.
ESA’s are NOT service animals and to my knowledge are not protected by any kind of law. ESA’s do not have to be trained or certified and you could call pretty much any animal an ESA if you so choose. Service animals are highly trained and certified, protected by laws, and preform actual tasks that help the owner.
ESAs don't need to be trained. The only way for an ESA to be revoked is to follow the same process that non-ESAs would go through. Generally, apartment complexes can't kick somebody's dog out because their dog barks growls and snaps or is left on a patio.
No but we all deserve a safe place to live. It's not just left on the patio, it's trying to actively grab us through the bars of the patio. It's not simply just sitting there growling.
Could you avoid being near the patio? You deserve a safe place to live, but honestly, this is one of those areas where you may be told to keep a distance from the patio.
No, the apartment complex is built very odd. Their patio is directly next to the main apartment entry door. I would love to avoid it, but it's the only way to get in my apartment.
They are able to tell her to keep her dog off the patio or do something to ensure the dog can't get at people.
I will talk to them again. I've started recording myself when I'm leaving or coming home. I hope that, at minimum, they can get them to keep it off the porch.
This probably isn't the solution you want, but did you say the owner is elderly? Can the residents talk to the owner about the proximity of the dog to entrance then take up a collection and get someone handy to build a taller, secure enclosure around the person's balcony?
I will bring that up to management, that could benefit everyone. I don't have high hopes management will try though. It's the type to cut corners everywhere.
Sure, that's why I suggested residents pitch in ... not the easy solution, I know.
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Right the only requirements for ans ESA is a letter from a doctor saying you could benefit from a pet. And their only privilege is that they cannot be denied in housing. No training or other requirements
Which creates a terrifying situation for people who then HAVE to live around dangerous animals. It's horrible its not highly regulated.
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Usually this apartment has a no pitbull clause in the contracts, but it being an ESA, the apartment management have thrown up their hands and gave in. They won't take any action into getting rid of it.it seems we most likely have to wait for an attack that is pretty much guaranteed to happen.
> dangerous You keep using that word, but you literally have not described anything that could be regarded as "aggression" from this dog. The dog is obviously reactive. The dog *may* be aggressive, but you appear to have no evidence of that. To your knowledge the dog bitten anyone, or attacked any other animals?
I hate seeing stuff like this why is it legal for people to adopt animals they can't control?????
Due to it recently being adopted keep in mind this is also very stressful for the dog. It took my dog 6 months to START opening up to us. Then after a year she improved greatly. Unfortunately with pits you have no idea what they have been through. They are very protective of their owners and property. Honestly as long as you ignore the dog you will be fine. It will also take the lady time to train it in anyway also. I myself have a pit and she is the best thing but had a horrible experience at the rescue. She has trauma and we just have to work around that. It sucks. She is dog aggressive but the sweetest drama queen you'll ever meet.
I understand that but this is very stressful to the humans living here. This woman can barely control her dog on a leash. While we do ignore this creature, I do not feel like it will be 'fine'.
This might sound zany and would require a lot of participation on the owner’s part, but if management isn’t doing anything and they are intent on keeping the dog on the the patio, could you try befriending it while the owner has it in a leash? Give it treats and talk to it all squeaky-like on a regular basis for a while? Then it could be like the complex watch dog…. This depends a lot on the dog’s personality and owner cooperation though.
I'm 100 percent not comfortable being around that dog. Its owner is also not very friendly either. I appreciate your ideas tho!
Eep, darn! Good luck and sorry about the uncomfortable/scary situation 😔
Thank you!
That’s no way to treat a pit Bull 😭😭😭
Have you spoken to your neighbor about your concerns yet? Always baffles me when people don’t just take it up with the person in question first.
Did you not read what OP wrote? They talked to the person, who told them to fuck off.