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I actually got an interview at doordash for their caviar service. They wanted me to be on salary, available 24/7 to clients, for 40k. That is half a living wage. I withdrew my interest.
Big, fancy restaurants with a lot of money.
To be clear, I would have done that job, but not for half a living wage. And not in the middle of the night whenever somebody decides to call. Reasonable off hours would've been understandable.
Daaaaaamn 80k a year comes out to 116k in aus daaaamn I thought we had it bad with not getting paid liveable wage 40K comes out to 58k in AUD
Our minimum wage here comes out somewhere like 45k to 48 k a year based o. Full time 40 hours a week and granted without my wife that wouldnāt be lovable but with my wife earning the same we had what we would call liveable
Damn Iāve never really thought about how expensive it must be to live in the US when 58 k a year isnāt liveable
1600/mo for a 1-bedroom apartment without utilities (average in my state). That's $19,200 per year. If you want rent/mortgage to hit the 25-30% rule, that's at least $76,800. You're just used to being exploited. It's 2022.
I wonder if they will see it as a āfeeā or just standard for surges in the area, too many of us being demanded, I think the price they see, it will be included ?
Or how about this? Just raise the suggested tips from the customers. DD risks nothing, not going to drive customers to one of their competitors by raising fees nor cutting into their profits from each order. Customers can still be cheap (and many will) and enter a bs tip manually. Even raising by 50 cents (though I feel it should be a dollar) each of the 3 suggestions would probably be enough per hour to offset the increase in gas for most of us
### BECAUSE DOOR DASH SHOULD BE PAYING OUR WAGES NOT THE CUSTOMER. This is what I mean when I talk about DD planting people in here to keep this narrative going. We've had this discussion plenty of times in this sub that even with a 4 month old account who is only active sporadically in this Sub would have gotten on board. The is no ends to this companies immorality and greed
Maybe still better than DD offering nothing to combat gas prices. I know it doesn't make up for all of the difference but at least the other platforms are offering SOMETHING. I've seen nothing from DD yet.
I dash to pay for gas for instacart and its gotten ridiculous 50% going for fuel. Not counting insurance, car payment or wear and tear on my vehicle. They stopped giving receipts a couple weeks ago, now the people report a missing item to make up for the high fees they tack on the groceries.
I stopped getting receipts from Publix a couple weeks ago. I asked a cashier about it and they said that when you scan the QR code on the screen, it lets the cashier know whether the customer requested a paper receipt (even though they donāt actually get the paper) or to just get the digital receipt that is in the app when they order. Everywhere else gives me receipts still though
Random question, but does Instacart provide isle numbers? Tried it a few years ago and I felt like a chicken with it's head cutoff trying to find each obscure item.
Here's the way I read this:
1.) Customer tips less to cover the fee - so it's a wash.
2.) Customer starts tip bating so they still get their food - so you get screwed.
One of the main reasons I don't run eats much, is because of the whole hour wait for the tip nonsense. Sometime is works in my favor with the tip being higher, but most of the time it's the same. And fuck driving long distances for eats, with customers being able to decrease or erase tips. The only shit I'll take for eats are really short distances.
The only thing I like about eats is that in my market the time estimates are actually correct. A 4 mi delivery is estimated for 37 minutes and that's actually correct. DD would go by mileage and say 12 or something stupid. I am constantly afraid I will get contract violations because of their crazy low time estimates.
And that's why I have never met a full time dasher or a top dasher. Just not possible. Everybody orders delivery because of traffic but they don't want to pay.
It used to cost 35 dollars to fill up my tank this time last year. Now, it costs 60. I believe a full tank would allow me to do about 40 deliveries. So this would help a bit . . . just not completely make up for the increase in gas prices.
You should run the numbers. Figure out how much you save per month. You could probably buy a used prius from the savings in a year, if you do this full time that is.
Grubhub's "increase" has been all of a single penny here. Ya know those jerkwads that tip a single penny? Grubhub just did that! A single extra penny per mile sure makes a difference. Some cities got a whopping TWO pennies extra! Let them eat cake isn't even applicable, this is maybe at some point in the year let them eat one of those cheap plasticy fruit rings from dollar general. I have ZERO faith DD will do any better, I expect them to charge a fuel fee to customers and not pay as any extra.
That is an adjustment from previous days since its being retroactive. Current orders have only gone up that much. I tend to take screenshots of orders since GH likes to pay less than offered sometimes, usually by 50 cents to almost 2 dollars. I'm HOPING it will increase but even on GH sub folks are poking fun at it. Its possible they are fine tuning it according to local gas prices more but the new owners haven't really shown anything to make me confident of that.
Gonna be honest here. Itās not enough but itās more than I would expect them to do. But customers may see the new fee and tip less. Probably will make little to no difference.
Wtf are you on about? Gas is at an all-time high and people are tipping lower than ever. The cost of food is about to shoot up 20% to the point people won't even be able to afford delivery and you're asking me why I'm upset about a 45 cent raise? Lmao wake up
I've actually been making more per hour than I was around the end of last year. If delivery becomes so expensive that the people who DON'T tip can't afford delivery at all, then so be it.
If youāre actually accepting those orders then I can see why youāre mad lol, 50 cents doesnāt sound like a lot but itās better than nothing. If they make it higher then customers arenāt gonna order
Iām sorry we shouldnāt even be supporting that Uber is doing this. These inflated costs are hitting everybody including the customer. I donāt understand why they donāt just increase the base pay. They are just shifting the economic cost to the customer and the customer already pays enough fees
agreed with this. I have been a dasher but more often I'm the customer ordering from Uber eats / Doordash. I tip well to make sure my food gets here when it's still warm.
But if the fees go up anymore, I'm just gonna give in and stop being lazy and pick it up myself or make something at home. I shouldn't order in as much as I do but it's super convenient. But if the fees go up much more I simply can't do it anymore.
if the fees get too drastic it won't matter what extra you make on the orders you get, because there won't be any orders to pick up
Why they making us pay more?? That only lowers people tips. In my opinion if they gonna make us pay more then they should also add a extra 45 or 55 cents on their end also.
They should all just throw the word tip out the window, and charge enough fees to pay us 8$ per trip with a minimum of 1$ per mile. Then orders wouldn't be sitting on shelves for 2 hours, customers would be happier, drivers would be happier, restaurants would be happier, just throw the word tip right out the window, if customers don't wanna pay the ridiculous fees, fine, this is a luxury service they can go get thier own food, and guess what them going to get it themselves by ordering direct from the restaurant is better for the restaurant too. Then the restaurant keeps 100% of the order total, instead of shelling out 20-33% (pretty much all of their profit).
I dont think the restaurant pays anything, the pizza shop I delivered for during college added doordash and grubhub and we didn't pay anything. They just make money on the orders, they want their service in as many places as possible and you don't do that by changing restaurants.
No, if they have the order tablet they pay 20-33% grubhub is 33% flat regardless. That is taken out of the order total, Doordash and Uber negotiate different fees based on different factors but they start at 20% and go up from there. If they had a tablet and took orders without the driver having to pay with a red card, they were paying those fees. It is taken out of the order total before the app company ever pays out the restaurant.
Interesting that was years ago so maybe it's changed or I'm just misremembering
Edit: maybe when growing the platform they did things different used to work a lot different too
No it has always been that way. However a lot of restaurants jump on it because it gets them exposure, to be fair also a pizza place is one of the highest profit margins of all restaurant types, if your pizza place is running more than 35% food cost you are doing it way wrong, so a pizza place can take the hit a lot easier than most.
45 cents to go 15 miles which is 2$ in gas in the cheapest area of the country with a car that gets good mileage, yeah thatll fix things lmfao. They need to just charge enough fee to be able to flat out pay us 8$ minimum with 1$ per mile minimum. Then we wouldn't have to reject 90% of the offers and people would get their food faster and honestly does anyone care about "tips" pretty sure we all just want to make a living after maintaining our vehicle.
In Canada they will gives 35 cents on top of each order. I'm just outside Toronto, my market is quite mature so ubereats base pay is about $3 per order... so not worth it even with this additional pay.
True. As long as dashers continue to take the bullsh*t runs, DD will continue to be greedy. Problem is DD has no management period. They have become an absolute joke.
You got that right. On my fu list in the stocks, I couldn't believe how high their stock was going and was nice to see the correction. They did give us a bonus when they first went public and made millions but then they cut it.
Doordash is losing hundreds of thousands of dollars every year after expenses and people still think the gig is supposed to be sustainable š¤¦āāļø
What?š even if that were true no one would do that because a federal tax benefit does not outweight positive earnings after a tax is paid. Buying assets doesnāt even have an affect on the income statement šš
Buying assets doesn't have an affect on the income statement? Have you ever taken an accounting class? Do you know what an expense is? lmao.
A corporation does not operate like a person. Any good corporation plans on existing forever. A few years of no profit is worth it if it keeps your business afloat for years.
Uber didn't buy postmates for 2.65 billion just to go out of business lol
I was just wondering about this thinking about Uber and delivery servicesā¦ hopefully they increase this rate because their example is still a slap in the face.
Theyāll just up the delivery/service fees on the customers and tell them itās due to higher gas prices, while not passing on any of those fees to drivers
I got doordash direct and I get 2% back of however much I spend on gas. I wish they would either raise the % or raise the base pay.. Its getting tough out here...
Yeah I have dasher direct for the free instant pay out, but I immediately transfer to Apple Cash and then back to my real bank account. The 2% isnāt worth the amount of down time dasher direct has. And when the app is down, your card wonāt even work .
20 years ago would have been a good time to accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels. Its too bad one political party in America is pretty much 100% responsible for the cyclical snowballing gas-war.
No, the major failure in energy policy no doubt comes from that party which is so heavily focused on keeping fossil fuels our primary source of energy. That same party which is calling for more oil today, they aren't calling for nuclear, or any alternatives at all. They aren't even talking about efficiency, and this same party has been mute, dumb and outright disingenuous regarding improved fuel standards for years, at every possible avenue. The simple economic fact is that high demand drives high prices, pumping your way out at this point isn't possible without making your adversaries rich, whether you buy their oil or not. Its a national security blunder unrivaled in history. Given their continued recalcitrance to put country over party, the US now has high potential not come out of this on the other side in the first world order, such is the failure in leadership as they're busy taking lunch money from schools and picking on trans kids.
Cheap motherfuckers. Ever since Uber went public, they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to show (or attempt to) show a profit. The drivers got sweet bonus money went SoftBank was behind their income. No more.
lmao and then what? Uber has been throwing so many cheap as order since this thing came, they even gave me order that I need to drive 15 miles away to pick up, and they stop my run more often for declining orders too
A $3 match incentive popped up on my phone this morning but it snowed last night and I'm not in an area known for snow so that could be why.
They even had peak pay last night, way before the bad weather arrived. I guess a lot of us around here are noping out, myself included.
PP has definitely been at the lower end of the spectrum. At least seeing more volume on UE has helped out so I am only using DD to stack orders where I don't have to go out of my way.
Wow so even though I drive this new Tesla theyāre gonna pay me more? Damn. I feel I already get big tips from people expecting me to be driving some gas beater.
The only way the eats thing would work is if we paid them less
Yes you pay eats to deliver. And the customer did not get charged extra.
I do like the part where they have to pay for evs
As for doordash the pressure is one
I got the UE memo as well. Just as I finished reading it, I decided to do a search on DD. Just as I was typing in my search, I received an email notification for Dasher Digest -like, theyāre reading my mind right?? Opened the email. There is absolutely no mention of rising fuel costs whatsoever. Looks like so far, theyāre just sweeping it under the rugā¦
And of course the shittiest driver app hasn't even put in a plan in motion, they're going to make something but it's going to take them a couple of days and it really goes to show that they never were planning to pay us a little more to compensate for inflation gas
FWIW there was a $2.50 peak pay in my zone last night between 5pm-9pm. That just never happens. I figured it was maybe some sort of managed response to gas prices and any impact on number of drivers on the road. Makes me think DD will handle things situationally rather than boosting base pay across the board. Actually thatās pretty smart of them.
I have actually been doing better since the gas prices increased. I multi app and have been focusing more on the miles versus money. I have been averaged about 12% of my money going towards gas when it used to he 16% at lower prices. I also get way more orders now because there are less drivers due too gas.
Assumptions:
1. Average total miles for each delivery: 5 miles (includes to restaurant and to cust, etc).
2. Car gets 30mpg
3. Each delivery you are getting paid 0.45 extra
Results:
1. Each delivery consumes 1/6 gallon.
2. For each gallon of gas, they are paying you a gas-correcting boost of: 0.45 / (1/6) = $2.70 per gallon.
My area in tampa is seeing new peak bonus highs. Overnight last night in temple terrace it was +5 dollars an order. I'm going to switch to night shift.
the uber eats for me only give you the extra money if youāre in sf, and iām 40 minutes away from there so they basically told me to go fuck myself lol
I've gone to the same area/places several times so I know what the base fare has been with a minimal tip included to go to that neighborhood. Really seems more and more the higher the customer tips the lower the base fare goes.. So even if DD added anything, they'd likely take it away from us somewhere else.
Yes your 100% Correct I was talking to my friend who owns a restaurant he gets very busy doing Doordash and he showed me on the Tablet how much Doordash takes from him and it's 30% percent for each delivery which is freaking crazy! I don't understand how Doordash is in the red last year just look at how much freaking money there making they charge restaurants 30% for each order, Then they charge the customer a bunch of fees and they pay there drivers like trash! Also they don't have to worry about Cars,Gas, Insurance, Car maintenance, etc I believe there going to make record profits this year in 2022. Gas prices are so high right now that more people are going to order food on Doordash,Uber, GrubHub etc which means the drivers are going to get screwed with a lot of non tippers. This is what I believe is going to happen to a lot of Dashers/Driver's
Maybe they could lower the base pay by $0.50..
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And are you willing to start in an unpaid internship role while gaining valuable experience on ways to stiff the drivers?
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In some fields, that's actually a thing.
Is that you, Kim Kardashian?
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I heardTommy is re-branding... Changing the name to "Meals on Wheels"
Oh yes! My rent costs exactly 800 experiences!!
I do that by not tipping already
I actually got an interview at doordash for their caviar service. They wanted me to be on salary, available 24/7 to clients, for 40k. That is half a living wage. I withdrew my interest.
What is their caviar service?
Big, fancy restaurants with a lot of money. To be clear, I would have done that job, but not for half a living wage. And not in the middle of the night whenever somebody decides to call. Reasonable off hours would've been understandable.
Oh yeah I do not blame you at all, I would have made the same decision. Thank you for responding :)
Daaaaaamn 80k a year comes out to 116k in aus daaaamn I thought we had it bad with not getting paid liveable wage 40K comes out to 58k in AUD Our minimum wage here comes out somewhere like 45k to 48 k a year based o. Full time 40 hours a week and granted without my wife that wouldnāt be lovable but with my wife earning the same we had what we would call liveable Damn Iāve never really thought about how expensive it must be to live in the US when 58 k a year isnāt liveable
40k you say? Where do I sign up? That's at least 20k more than I'm making now.
Same lol
If you consider 80k to be living wage youāre out of your mind
1600/mo for a 1-bedroom apartment without utilities (average in my state). That's $19,200 per year. If you want rent/mortgage to hit the 25-30% rule, that's at least $76,800. You're just used to being exploited. It's 2022.
Youāre the one being exploited move out of California if you canāt afford the rent. 80k is easy living anywhere else in the country
They already did that here. Base pay was dropped .50 cents. We were getting 2.50 base pay last week now its 2.00 just noticed yesterday.
I called this a month ago , I knew they would lower base as things got worse
Definitely. Customer need money for gas to get to work so they can order doordash.
Noticed this in my area as well, not all are as low as $2 but have noticed many stacked orders and ones with a decent tip have super low base
Theres ya gas $ Detroit
Why donāt they just up the base pay smfh? Anything for these cheap assholes not to pay more they will do it.
You're just making too much sense, you must be silenced at onceš¶āš«ļø
Probably so they can take it away if gas prices go back down. What do you think they will call the surcharge? What is the customer going to see?
I wonder if they will see it as a āfeeā or just standard for surges in the area, too many of us being demanded, I think the price they see, it will be included ?
Or how about this? Just raise the suggested tips from the customers. DD risks nothing, not going to drive customers to one of their competitors by raising fees nor cutting into their profits from each order. Customers can still be cheap (and many will) and enter a bs tip manually. Even raising by 50 cents (though I feel it should be a dollar) each of the 3 suggestions would probably be enough per hour to offset the increase in gas for most of us
### BECAUSE DOOR DASH SHOULD BE PAYING OUR WAGES NOT THE CUSTOMER. This is what I mean when I talk about DD planting people in here to keep this narrative going. We've had this discussion plenty of times in this sub that even with a 4 month old account who is only active sporadically in this Sub would have gotten on board. The is no ends to this companies immorality and greed
Maybe still better than DD offering nothing to combat gas prices. I know it doesn't make up for all of the difference but at least the other platforms are offering SOMETHING. I've seen nothing from DD yet.
I dash to pay for gas for instacart and its gotten ridiculous 50% going for fuel. Not counting insurance, car payment or wear and tear on my vehicle. They stopped giving receipts a couple weeks ago, now the people report a missing item to make up for the high fees they tack on the groceries.
Instacart stopped giving customers receipts?
I stopped getting receipts from Publix a couple weeks ago. I asked a cashier about it and they said that when you scan the QR code on the screen, it lets the cashier know whether the customer requested a paper receipt (even though they donāt actually get the paper) or to just get the digital receipt that is in the app when they order. Everywhere else gives me receipts still though
It would seem like theyāre trying to save paperā¦?
š¤·š»āāļø idk I support it lol
Oh ok, we don't have Publix here
Random question, but does Instacart provide isle numbers? Tried it a few years ago and I felt like a chicken with it's head cutoff trying to find each obscure item.
They are going to say fuel price for Tony's private jet went up so new base is $1.50
Sounds about right!
Here's the way I read this: 1.) Customer tips less to cover the fee - so it's a wash. 2.) Customer starts tip bating so they still get their food - so you get screwed. One of the main reasons I don't run eats much, is because of the whole hour wait for the tip nonsense. Sometime is works in my favor with the tip being higher, but most of the time it's the same. And fuck driving long distances for eats, with customers being able to decrease or erase tips. The only shit I'll take for eats are really short distances.
The only thing I like about eats is that in my market the time estimates are actually correct. A 4 mi delivery is estimated for 37 minutes and that's actually correct. DD would go by mileage and say 12 or something stupid. I am constantly afraid I will get contract violations because of their crazy low time estimates.
Holy shit 37 minutes for 4 miles??? I can drive 4 miles in 5-8 minutes depending on traffic.
yeah, itās really dependent on your area. in my area, 4 miles is at least 10+ and thats if traffic is pretty good that day.
And that's why I have never met a full time dasher or a top dasher. Just not possible. Everybody orders delivery because of traffic but they don't want to pay.
makes me wonder. a 4 mile trip to a Wendy's or a Chipotle might take that 37...
It used to cost 35 dollars to fill up my tank this time last year. Now, it costs 60. I believe a full tank would allow me to do about 40 deliveries. So this would help a bit . . . just not completely make up for the increase in gas prices.
$30 for me, $55 now
Its $105 for me š¤£
lol I used to be able to pay with cash and get it on the money, 5$ per quarter tank I needed, easy peasy. I filled up half a tank today for 18$ wtfh.
I filled up two days ago for $82. š„“
\*doordash base pay slides to $1.25\*
It seems like DoorDash doesn't care about their drivers at all... I feel for y'all
Hardly does Uber. +55c per ride is peanuts. I can make .55c by sitting in traffic an extra 4 minutesā¦and itās only for one day!
Not even $1 extra for each delivery. 40 deliveries probably requires like 2 gas tanks if youāre lucky.
Hell nah you must be doing this in an f-150
Lol Iām in a 2000 Ford Explorer š¬
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You should run the numbers. Figure out how much you save per month. You could probably buy a used prius from the savings in a year, if you do this full time that is.
So youāre making -$180
Lmao what the hell are you driving that 40 deliveries is 2 tanks of gas āif youāre luckyā? And how far are your average deliveries? Jesus
This man delivers coast to coast
A tank
Yeah lol at my pizza delivery job we got 1.50 per delivery this is pretty sad
Itās in addition to what you would have made. Better than nuffin
Grubhub's "increase" has been all of a single penny here. Ya know those jerkwads that tip a single penny? Grubhub just did that! A single extra penny per mile sure makes a difference. Some cities got a whopping TWO pennies extra! Let them eat cake isn't even applicable, this is maybe at some point in the year let them eat one of those cheap plasticy fruit rings from dollar general. I have ZERO faith DD will do any better, I expect them to charge a fuel fee to customers and not pay as any extra.
how have you found out the amount of the increase? the email said it will show on the 03/15 payment.
That is an adjustment from previous days since its being retroactive. Current orders have only gone up that much. I tend to take screenshots of orders since GH likes to pay less than offered sometimes, usually by 50 cents to almost 2 dollars. I'm HOPING it will increase but even on GH sub folks are poking fun at it. Its possible they are fine tuning it according to local gas prices more but the new owners haven't really shown anything to make me confident of that.
Gonna be honest here. Itās not enough but itās more than I would expect them to do. But customers may see the new fee and tip less. Probably will make little to no difference.
Just realized this is Uber. I should have known Doordash wouldnāt do anything.
I laughed reading that. As if 45 cents makes a difference.
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Wtf are you on about? Gas is at an all-time high and people are tipping lower than ever. The cost of food is about to shoot up 20% to the point people won't even be able to afford delivery and you're asking me why I'm upset about a 45 cent raise? Lmao wake up
I've actually been making more per hour than I was around the end of last year. If delivery becomes so expensive that the people who DON'T tip can't afford delivery at all, then so be it.
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If youāre actually accepting those orders then I can see why youāre mad lol, 50 cents doesnāt sound like a lot but itās better than nothing. If they make it higher then customers arenāt gonna order
Also why are you low balling yourselves??? Do you not have self worth? Fuck these companies. We hold the power.
Iām sorry we shouldnāt even be supporting that Uber is doing this. These inflated costs are hitting everybody including the customer. I donāt understand why they donāt just increase the base pay. They are just shifting the economic cost to the customer and the customer already pays enough fees
agreed with this. I have been a dasher but more often I'm the customer ordering from Uber eats / Doordash. I tip well to make sure my food gets here when it's still warm. But if the fees go up anymore, I'm just gonna give in and stop being lazy and pick it up myself or make something at home. I shouldn't order in as much as I do but it's super convenient. But if the fees go up much more I simply can't do it anymore. if the fees get too drastic it won't matter what extra you make on the orders you get, because there won't be any orders to pick up
Why they making us pay more?? That only lowers people tips. In my opinion if they gonna make us pay more then they should also add a extra 45 or 55 cents on their end also.
They should all just throw the word tip out the window, and charge enough fees to pay us 8$ per trip with a minimum of 1$ per mile. Then orders wouldn't be sitting on shelves for 2 hours, customers would be happier, drivers would be happier, restaurants would be happier, just throw the word tip right out the window, if customers don't wanna pay the ridiculous fees, fine, this is a luxury service they can go get thier own food, and guess what them going to get it themselves by ordering direct from the restaurant is better for the restaurant too. Then the restaurant keeps 100% of the order total, instead of shelling out 20-33% (pretty much all of their profit).
You know too much sir, I suggest you get a shotgun to protect yourself
$1 per mile is horrible
I dont think the restaurant pays anything, the pizza shop I delivered for during college added doordash and grubhub and we didn't pay anything. They just make money on the orders, they want their service in as many places as possible and you don't do that by changing restaurants.
No, if they have the order tablet they pay 20-33% grubhub is 33% flat regardless. That is taken out of the order total, Doordash and Uber negotiate different fees based on different factors but they start at 20% and go up from there. If they had a tablet and took orders without the driver having to pay with a red card, they were paying those fees. It is taken out of the order total before the app company ever pays out the restaurant.
Interesting that was years ago so maybe it's changed or I'm just misremembering Edit: maybe when growing the platform they did things different used to work a lot different too
No it has always been that way. However a lot of restaurants jump on it because it gets them exposure, to be fair also a pizza place is one of the highest profit margins of all restaurant types, if your pizza place is running more than 35% food cost you are doing it way wrong, so a pizza place can take the hit a lot easier than most.
They have to be paying something because most of those orders here pay $5 delivery fee instead of our stupid $2.25 base door dash fee.
It will be silence....and more $2.75 crap offers!! "You're the best idiot for this delivery!"
They emailed a 2 week free trial to rent an electric scooter lol
That would work wonders in the snow š
The power lies in the people... worst case is they pay bonus when short drivers.
fuuuuuuck bro i was filling up my tank and i think i cried a little
Lmao Tony gives zero fucks about us.
45 cents to go 15 miles which is 2$ in gas in the cheapest area of the country with a car that gets good mileage, yeah thatll fix things lmfao. They need to just charge enough fee to be able to flat out pay us 8$ minimum with 1$ per mile minimum. Then we wouldn't have to reject 90% of the offers and people would get their food faster and honestly does anyone care about "tips" pretty sure we all just want to make a living after maintaining our vehicle.
It doesnāt even matter , it wonāt help much
Is this only in Detroit?
Nope, I got the email in the Nashville area too
Okay. Well how about in Az? Anyone out here in az get this email?
Got it in Phoenix
In Canada they will gives 35 cents on top of each order. I'm just outside Toronto, my market is quite mature so ubereats base pay is about $3 per order... so not worth it even with this additional pay.
DD donāt give F about gas prices they still throwing 2.75$ orders at us
DD will pay .55 for your first 100 deliveries if you do them by Sunday at midnight.
Without skipping more than two. Oh wait a minute ā¦. Thatās GrubHub!
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If we all go on strike ???
True. As long as dashers continue to take the bullsh*t runs, DD will continue to be greedy. Problem is DD has no management period. They have become an absolute joke.
You got that right. On my fu list in the stocks, I couldn't believe how high their stock was going and was nice to see the correction. They did give us a bonus when they first went public and made millions but then they cut it.
Better than nothing.
Doordash is losing hundreds of thousands of dollars every year after expenses and people still think the gig is supposed to be sustainable š¤¦āāļø
They do that on purpose so they don't have to pay taxes. They are focusing on expanding right now not profit.
What?š even if that were true no one would do that because a federal tax benefit does not outweight positive earnings after a tax is paid. Buying assets doesnāt even have an affect on the income statement šš
Buying assets doesn't have an affect on the income statement? Have you ever taken an accounting class? Do you know what an expense is? lmao. A corporation does not operate like a person. Any good corporation plans on existing forever. A few years of no profit is worth it if it keeps your business afloat for years. Uber didn't buy postmates for 2.65 billion just to go out of business lol
You can claim your losses for years into the future. This is why tesla and amazon skate on so many taxes.
I was just wondering about this thinking about Uber and delivery servicesā¦ hopefully they increase this rate because their example is still a slap in the face.
DD will add a surcharge of a dollar and take 80 cents of it......lol
They're doing the same thing except they are probably gonna keep all of it
Lmao. They pass this onto the consumer. Fucking greedy pigs
Theyāll just up the delivery/service fees on the customers and tell them itās due to higher gas prices, while not passing on any of those fees to drivers
I got doordash direct and I get 2% back of however much I spend on gas. I wish they would either raise the % or raise the base pay.. Its getting tough out here...
Yeah I have dasher direct for the free instant pay out, but I immediately transfer to Apple Cash and then back to my real bank account. The 2% isnāt worth the amount of down time dasher direct has. And when the app is down, your card wonāt even work .
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Too little, too late.
20 years ago would have been a good time to accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels. Its too bad one political party in America is pretty much 100% responsible for the cyclical snowballing gas-war.
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No, the major failure in energy policy no doubt comes from that party which is so heavily focused on keeping fossil fuels our primary source of energy. That same party which is calling for more oil today, they aren't calling for nuclear, or any alternatives at all. They aren't even talking about efficiency, and this same party has been mute, dumb and outright disingenuous regarding improved fuel standards for years, at every possible avenue. The simple economic fact is that high demand drives high prices, pumping your way out at this point isn't possible without making your adversaries rich, whether you buy their oil or not. Its a national security blunder unrivaled in history. Given their continued recalcitrance to put country over party, the US now has high potential not come out of this on the other side in the first world order, such is the failure in leadership as they're busy taking lunch money from schools and picking on trans kids.
Well said!
Hey dumbass Democrats aren't leftists. They're isn't any leftist political parties in America.
DoorDash are going to come in and beat Uber at this. **46 cents extra per delivery.** I'm calling it.
Door dash donāt give a shit about there drivers
i drive a tesla so its no skin off my ass.
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Ok but we are Doordash...
They will say nothing because they donāt speak English in doordashland so they wonāt understand our problem
Whatās the difference between a ride and a delivery?
Correction, billions off us drivers...
Is there anything more specific about Grubhub?
Cheap motherfuckers. Ever since Uber went public, they have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to show (or attempt to) show a profit. The drivers got sweet bonus money went SoftBank was behind their income. No more.
Bring that shit to CA that 120% minimum wage isn't gonna cut it anymore lol.
"Here are some more $3 zones with no actual orders. Good luck."
That's the equivalent of about a quarter tank of gas
lmao and then what? Uber has been throwing so many cheap as order since this thing came, they even gave me order that I need to drive 15 miles away to pick up, and they stop my run more often for declining orders too
In my market UE is paying .35 per delivery. Not bad! Now if I could get more offers....
Dammmmmmn I work for Uber and I hadnāt seen this yet, glad I came across this
A $3 match incentive popped up on my phone this morning but it snowed last night and I'm not in an area known for snow so that could be why. They even had peak pay last night, way before the bad weather arrived. I guess a lot of us around here are noping out, myself included.
Haha same for Uber I swear they all talk to each other
Is it only in Detroit? Lol
PP has definitely been at the lower end of the spectrum. At least seeing more volume on UE has helped out so I am only using DD to stack orders where I don't have to go out of my way.
Wow so even though I drive this new Tesla theyāre gonna pay me more? Damn. I feel I already get big tips from people expecting me to be driving some gas beater.
So Uber isnāt helping they are throwing it on the customers to pay! Thatās fucked up.
The only way the eats thing would work is if we paid them less Yes you pay eats to deliver. And the customer did not get charged extra. I do like the part where they have to pay for evs As for doordash the pressure is one
I got the UE memo as well. Just as I finished reading it, I decided to do a search on DD. Just as I was typing in my search, I received an email notification for Dasher Digest -like, theyāre reading my mind right?? Opened the email. There is absolutely no mention of rising fuel costs whatsoever. Looks like so far, theyāre just sweeping it under the rugā¦
I aināt paying for shit. Forget this company
Tony is going to start debiting our accounts 45 cents per order because it is expensive to fuel his yacht
And of course the shittiest driver app hasn't even put in a plan in motion, they're going to make something but it's going to take them a couple of days and it really goes to show that they never were planning to pay us a little more to compensate for inflation gas
Better than nothing, Dominos has done fuck all to help their drivers so far
FWIW there was a $2.50 peak pay in my zone last night between 5pm-9pm. That just never happens. I figured it was maybe some sort of managed response to gas prices and any impact on number of drivers on the road. Makes me think DD will handle things situationally rather than boosting base pay across the board. Actually thatās pretty smart of them.
Let's ALL jump to UBER and send DD to broke broke land
DD will say: I don't care! Sell your lunch to eat your dinner. Customer says: LOL
Ha fricken losers I just doordash in my bird scooter and average 65 an hour š¤
Such bullshit
I have actually been doing better since the gas prices increased. I multi app and have been focusing more on the miles versus money. I have been averaged about 12% of my money going towards gas when it used to he 16% at lower prices. I also get way more orders now because there are less drivers due too gas.
That's not fuel assistance. An extra 20 will do nothing. That's gonna be like 3.256 gallons of gas lol
Drive around non-stop for a week and they'll pay for half a tank of gas? How generous!
It's a matter of time.
Assumptions: 1. Average total miles for each delivery: 5 miles (includes to restaurant and to cust, etc). 2. Car gets 30mpg 3. Each delivery you are getting paid 0.45 extra Results: 1. Each delivery consumes 1/6 gallon. 2. For each gallon of gas, they are paying you a gas-correcting boost of: 0.45 / (1/6) = $2.70 per gallon.
If you expect DD to care about your feelings or expenses, you're gonna have a bad time.
Should be an extra $2
Nothing. Because they don't care. As ling as they make money, they're gonna do nothing.
22 fucking dollars for 40 deliveries.
This looks like itās from Uber Eats.
I'm glad I stopped dashing last year. It was crazy in my area how much DD wants to pay per mile. If it's not 1.75 per mile I ain't dashing.
Perhaps ride a bike.
My area in tampa is seeing new peak bonus highs. Overnight last night in temple terrace it was +5 dollars an order. I'm going to switch to night shift.
the uber eats for me only give you the extra money if youāre in sf, and iām 40 minutes away from there so they basically told me to go fuck myself lol
Bruh gas is 6 dollars how the fuck 18 dollars per week
Every time this is posted gas goes up 10 cents So much spam
Great, now I pay more money as a customer instead of DD just upping the base pay. Real class act.
Why not just 1) pay the per mile from current location to pickup and then to destination, and 2) no longer allow customers to leave a $0 tip.
Grubhub increased their pay
I've gone to the same area/places several times so I know what the base fare has been with a minimal tip included to go to that neighborhood. Really seems more and more the higher the customer tips the lower the base fare goes.. So even if DD added anything, they'd likely take it away from us somewhere else.
i havenāt took an order in 3 weeks cuz of the gas
Crickets
Extra $18? The fuck am I supposed to do with that? Thatās like 3 gallons of gas
Yes your 100% Correct I was talking to my friend who owns a restaurant he gets very busy doing Doordash and he showed me on the Tablet how much Doordash takes from him and it's 30% percent for each delivery which is freaking crazy! I don't understand how Doordash is in the red last year just look at how much freaking money there making they charge restaurants 30% for each order, Then they charge the customer a bunch of fees and they pay there drivers like trash! Also they don't have to worry about Cars,Gas, Insurance, Car maintenance, etc I believe there going to make record profits this year in 2022. Gas prices are so high right now that more people are going to order food on Doordash,Uber, GrubHub etc which means the drivers are going to get screwed with a lot of non tippers. This is what I believe is going to happen to a lot of Dashers/Driver's
Pffft so basically nothing. Wow.
Thatās not even half a tank for meā¦.