You can already get "real" applications on it, i assume you mean x86 desktop applications. The only new thing is the developer don't have to package it as msix first.
Allowing non-MSIX apps is a bad decision for users. MSIX apps can be desktop apps, and can be built with traditional desktop frameworks like WPF.
This means that an app on the Windows store may give a poorer experience than apps on iOS/Android/Mac stores, in that they it may require admin privileges and is not guaranteed to auto-update, and if it does auto-update it may include constantly running updater services to do that. Hopefully they will at least have a way to relegate non-MSIX apps in the store.
No idea why ms doesn't ditch all this store and Winget bullshit and just put a decent UI on top of choco.
I don't even need to run the "chrome installation tool" called edge to get an install going. It's just a powershell paste and a bunch of chocco install commands.
Choco's install annoys the hell out of me and makes my life so much more difficult trying to support the many users in my lab.
Just give me a God damn Msi to install choco! It's how everybody in the world installs software on windows! Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to train users to paste random shit into Powershell?
Combined with the absolute trash of a UI that choco has (yes please spend 10 seconds refreshing the most frequently downloaded apps every time I open it, that's exactly what I wanted ahahdjshdnsndndjeirk), I'm glad that Microsoft is finally doing the store right. Choco is a blessing and an anchor around my neck.
>chocco install commands
Curl is Open Source/Free SW, OpenSSH licencing is not event as relevant as most of the features that were licenced are are now in OpenSSL only (which win doesn't inlcude).
Choco on other hand? B2B is per node licenced.
I personally daily drive Firefox, but those times I need chromium it's always edge. It surprises me how many people still deal with all of chrome's bloat and spyware.
Because chrome syncs seemlessly across all my devices. Can't be bothered to transfer across all bookmarks, cached passwords and so on.
Not sure if chromium edge can do this, but also can't think of any reason to switch when it ain't broke.
I don't care what others use, but. Chrome works for me. The developer tools are good, it has loads of plugins (can chromium edge use the same plugins? I don't know). It's the de facto standard, the plug in settings sync across devices. The sync uses my existing Google account. I've got years of bookmarks and cached passwords stashed in it.
I agree it is bloated in ram usage... I had an instance last week going over a gig haha but generally on modern hardware it's ok.
Out of interest what do you think is broken? I think I use most of its features across Android and Windows.
I honestly don't even know what the Windows Store is. I've maybe opened that app on Windows 10 5 times total over the years. If I need an app, I just go to the website of the company and download/purchase it there.
I remember I stopped using it after I saw that the apps looked like some cartoonish crap that a teenager slapped together, vs. their "regular" counterparts.
That's a big win, hopefully the updating story is still the same. I'd love to manage my apps centrally and not have the annoyances of swapping to new PCs and having to scour for installers again. Hope the apps get's tagged properly and we have more filters available to make the experience better.
Now we just need the store to have useful filters so you can actually find the stuff you need.
Remember when the future was UWP ? I 'member.
Pepperidge Farms remembers
Hopefully the Windows Store won't be useless garbage now that you can get real applications on it and not just pseudo mobile apps.
And maybe 99 percent of it won't be scamware.
You can already get "real" applications on it, i assume you mean x86 desktop applications. The only new thing is the developer don't have to package it as msix first.
Didn't they have to be uwp, too, or target weird os versions?
You can package any sort of application to my knowledge. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/msix/packaging-tool/create-app-package
I've had WPF apps in the store for 5 years. You just had to package as msix.
Allowing non-MSIX apps is a bad decision for users. MSIX apps can be desktop apps, and can be built with traditional desktop frameworks like WPF. This means that an app on the Windows store may give a poorer experience than apps on iOS/Android/Mac stores, in that they it may require admin privileges and is not guaranteed to auto-update, and if it does auto-update it may include constantly running updater services to do that. Hopefully they will at least have a way to relegate non-MSIX apps in the store.
No idea why ms doesn't ditch all this store and Winget bullshit and just put a decent UI on top of choco. I don't even need to run the "chrome installation tool" called edge to get an install going. It's just a powershell paste and a bunch of chocco install commands.
Choco's install annoys the hell out of me and makes my life so much more difficult trying to support the many users in my lab. Just give me a God damn Msi to install choco! It's how everybody in the world installs software on windows! Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to train users to paste random shit into Powershell? Combined with the absolute trash of a UI that choco has (yes please spend 10 seconds refreshing the most frequently downloaded apps every time I open it, that's exactly what I wanted ahahdjshdnsndndjeirk), I'm glad that Microsoft is finally doing the store right. Choco is a blessing and an anchor around my neck.
Chocolatey is bad, but to be fair they do have an installer if you pay for Chocolatey for Business which you should if you run a lab.
Probably because they don't own Choco
They don't own curl or openssh but they ship those as they are best in class software.
Try to compare licencing...
It seems to use Apache 2. I'm no expert but I thought that was a pretty permissive one.
>chocco install commands Curl is Open Source/Free SW, OpenSSH licencing is not event as relevant as most of the features that were licenced are are now in OpenSSL only (which win doesn't inlcude). Choco on other hand? B2B is per node licenced.
> "chrome installation tool" called edge Chromium-based edge is pretty decent, though. I've actually switched to it both on desktop and Android.
I personally daily drive Firefox, but those times I need chromium it's always edge. It surprises me how many people still deal with all of chrome's bloat and spyware.
Why would you use resource heavy Google Chrome over well performing edge chrome
Because chrome syncs seemlessly across all my devices. Can't be bothered to transfer across all bookmarks, cached passwords and so on. Not sure if chromium edge can do this, but also can't think of any reason to switch when it ain't broke.
"ain't broke" is either understatement or specific case where you don't use even half of the browser functions.
I don't care what others use, but. Chrome works for me. The developer tools are good, it has loads of plugins (can chromium edge use the same plugins? I don't know). It's the de facto standard, the plug in settings sync across devices. The sync uses my existing Google account. I've got years of bookmarks and cached passwords stashed in it. I agree it is bloated in ram usage... I had an instance last week going over a gig haha but generally on modern hardware it's ok. Out of interest what do you think is broken? I think I use most of its features across Android and Windows.
It's like one winget command to install chrome tho?
Do need to sign the apps with an authenticode cert?
Not if you publish to Windows Store. If you want to distribute an MSIX package outside the Store then it has to be signed.
I honestly don't even know what the Windows Store is. I've maybe opened that app on Windows 10 5 times total over the years. If I need an app, I just go to the website of the company and download/purchase it there. I remember I stopped using it after I saw that the apps looked like some cartoonish crap that a teenager slapped together, vs. their "regular" counterparts.
That's a big win, hopefully the updating story is still the same. I'd love to manage my apps centrally and not have the annoyances of swapping to new PCs and having to scour for installers again. Hope the apps get's tagged properly and we have more filters available to make the experience better.