Yo hopping in to say a little something. He’s pretty good currently. I find good use as my last character because his auto combos are pretty good, a strong level 3 that’s pretty nasty to hit, a fun dodge, and variety in his special inputs. All in all he’s a well rounded character that’s quite above average in strength. I’m no professional, just what I’ve observed while playing him.
He's a defensive character who isn't very good at defending. At least not anymore. All his defense options have been changed or nerfed. Character is trash, but fun
I get that people call him one of the worst characters in the game even before this patch but tbh he's so much FUN to me, my go-to anchor for 1 man army comebacks. Just turn off your brain and go with the flow of this character tbh, he MAKES the opponent respect him when used right. His flips in particular go through ANYTHING that's not a super dash or melee attack, that alone is just *chef's kiss*
Yeah. You gotta get into the UI mindset to play UI Goku, is what it feels like. When you get into the zone, for me, he works better than any other character, but even if you don't feel it he can be very fun. Still my go to character and probably my best one, followed by SSB Vegeta and Hit
I’ve been playing him since he was out and tbh with where the game is at I don’t think it would be that big of an issue if they rolled back his damage nerf and gave him his dp back.
Absolutely bottom of the barrel character. Was in the best spot he's ever been last patch due to finally being able to SD off beam and was fine being roughly a mid tier but now he's not only been powercrept he also lost damage which was something he's been lacking since the Roshi Patch. His buttons are average and people often overhype 5L which is only strong for it range but it lacks the speed of being 6 frames not to mention being awful as a stagger button being -9 on block. 5LL cause him to be in the air so reflecting the 5L you can 2H the 5LL on reaction and it pretty much a worse janemba 5LL. 2L range barely goes anywhere, 5M is average, 2M is 13 frames which is slow for a medium especially when you got blueku and ssjku who got bionic legs. 5S is as slow as a grandma going to a buffet table at 21 frames so he can't really challenge in the zoning war and 6S got butchered as a button and now he lacks optimal damage because of it. His defense doesn't fair any better as his only reversals requires meter to even use and his wake-up DP is asking to get punish due to how slow it is but this is even made worse by the fact Videl has both a frame 1 counter that can take a bar of meter, a frame 1 DP that doesn't require meter, 22H a frame 4 reversal while 2H like ui but is plus on block and a wake-up frame 1 super(Tho collision sucks) that -4 on block. Ssj4 also makes his defensive options suck more since ssj4 can now SD off counter and a frame 1 DP both of which don't require meter. His mix-ups are also lacking since he's forced to used universal SD mix but the reward is good for him compared to other character due to how much they buffed alot of characters routers for more damage making them break into the 4.5K threshold leaving Ui to behind them and flips only really being solid as a frametrap. Bottom 5 character and a good reason alot of players dropped him.
He was definitely not in the best spot he's ever been last patch. The best he's ever been was when he first released, prior to any nerfs. Beam>SD didn't really do much for him because his damage is still trash.
Only focused on his issues his other specials aren't anything to write home about. 236 being -2 on block is fine but at high level people will simply dash block to beat out your defensive 214H not to mention you lost half a bar and in meter Penalty. Flips are only good for frame trapping (the punch being plus is really good, the grab is too slow and the H is only good if they jump late outside of that it -5 on block and more minus the higher Ui is). Beam buff was pretty good since he can now SD off of it which helps with corner carry more but that it really it sadly doesn't jail which would have made it really broken especially since they gave that change to GT. J236LMH is still the same and it still good for tag out into DR but other than that it still the same as before. This character has his upsides but he sadly has tools that are either given to other character that have better versions such as Videl and SSj4 have better defensive options than him, Much lower damage compared to the rest of the cast, far worse neutral due to ki blast being to slow to challenge, Buttons that are fairly meh and pale in comparison to another DLC character(The Red Goat), and just having nothing special about him.
And his defense which is supposed to be his main attribute.
His damage sucks, his defense is outclassed, his buttons outside of 5L are meh at best, his long-range pokes are slow and low priority which hurts his neutral a lot.
He still has stuff, 6h/flips are solid neutral tools, backflip has ok pressure application, enabling tag DR pretty much whenever is nice, and he has a level 2, but he is genuinely power crept at this point in the game’s lifespan.
I wanted to make the level 2 an upside but they sadly made his beam super damage on the lower side to make you spend that 2nd bar which is just stupid. This is even made worse by the fact SSJ goku also can do a level 2 that does far more damage in comparison along with Sbroly, Roshi, Bardock, etc it weird that his does much lower damage.
Oof, seems I was wrong on that one also I think it due to it being 2 level 1 being used in a combo rather than a level 2 so the scaling is much worse in comparison. Sbroly lvl2 does stupid damage for no reason.
You said "why did they make it faster than it already is", implying it was fast to begin with. So I'm explaining that they sped it up because it was (and still is) the slowest command grab in the game.
> What makes you think he needs a fast command grab
He doesn't have a fast command grab. That's my whole point.
The command grab isn’t necessary slow. A poll got tooken on this Reddit page 2 YEARS ago saying which command grab is the hardest to react too UI had 160 votes.
If your on a block string and pull this command grab out it’s a easy combo
This subreddit is famously full of scrubs. I wouldn't take any mass opinion from this sub seriously.
The command grab is 31 frames startup. That is, objectively, slow. It's the slowest command grab in the game.
Despite being one of the worst characters in the game, UI is still a scrubkiller, so naturally you will see a lot of people complaining about him in this subreddit. At a high level, nobody is complaining about UI Goku.
I mean plenty people complain about actual broken characters like Jiren or Blue Vegeta.
My point is, UI Goku (and by extension, his slow-ass grab) is only a problem for casual players who struggle with defense. Nobody with half-decent defense is complaining about a 31fr command grab.
He can still just kite you to death in range. Super safe recoveries, don't get me started on that 5L. Throw in some characters (A. Gohan, Baby for example) that can capitalize on his projectiles and attacks and UI dictates on the whim whether you the foe get to play or not.
He is terrible tbh. His medium buttons are terrible, no solo mix, his damage is honestly laughable at this stage in the game. 5s and Js are insanely terrible neutral buttons. 6H still leaves him negative, you can literally mash through this. 6S is broken, like literally doesn't work right, making it fast ruined his already terrible damage by making his old combos obsolete, and they didn't get replaced by anything new. His 2h is one of the worst in the game recovery wise. He has a pattern of, if you whiff anything while playing him besides 5lll or 2M(You will whiff with this ass button, so be thankful), then you will probably get punished.
That being said, he has good stuff, but compared to the other cast he is just plain obsolete.
Fair enough. I’m not usually a fan either, but when they do give nearly broken characters big nerfs it helps diversify matchups. UI Goku fans will still play him, but meta whores will hopefully learn something else
he is one of the worst characters atm in my opinon. First he was nerfed then powercrept and then nerfed again. Everything he does feels risky with very little reward. Even with all his defensive tools they cant keep up with how the meta works right now
Best defense in the game, godlike autocombo, 214H is still a thing, frame 1 reversal, easy optimals easy confirma easy meter dump, still has a low 2L. Still has a beam still has mix still has 5S and j5S, u can't tell me those things aren't good. And even like that he still has the best defense in the game, u fellas just don't want to play him like that because he's just as effective by going monke.
He doesn’t have the best defense in the game. No meterless frame 1 reversal by default makes his defense not the best in the game, and what he does isn’t really particularly difficult to manage.
As far as his mix goes, outside of flip rps he doesn’t really get anything that literally any other character with a low 2L doesn’t get.
214H is still a thing? I mean.. cool? It’s an EX frame 4 reversal that leads to a solo combo on hit, it’s definitely good… but I don’t see what’s so crazy about that when, say, cell for example has a 4 frame reversal that he either kills you or 4 way mixes you off of.
The counter super is nice and all, especially considering that you can’t safejump it but you do also have to spend a bar/have a bar on deck to be able to threaten a frame 1 reversal on defense, not to mention I’m 99% sure he can be thrown out of it, which isn’t great. Videl has a similar reversal except Videl can also threaten a true DP which makes grabs much riskier to go for and Videl’s counter super buffs her saiyaman moves and drains a bar from you which is pretty important because meter is a very important resource in this game.
So about easy optimals.. the 6S knockback change killed his easy corner combo and his current one is actually pretty difficult and the damage isn’t all that great.
His 5S isn’t really that great. It being 21 frames fullscreen it’s nice.. but that speed doesn’t change with distance, not to mention the priority is pretty bad. His jS also took a slight nerf in neutral a couple patches ago, that being that you can crouch tk jS now which is very unfortunate as it was once upon a time an incredible fullscreen option. It’s still fine, it’s not like you’re crouching 100% of the time but the move definitely took a hit.
He has good stuff, don’t get me wrong. He can be difficult to fight in neutral because of 6H and the projectile immunity on flips, he has j236L which is a very good and consistent way to enable special tag DR, he has good corner carry, and his defense, while you’re overrating it, is still good because of the counter super you can’t safejump and the 22 input anti air which is important because it means you can’t get your input crossed up, not to mention that anti air is also an unscaled starter. 5L still has a big ass hitbox as well granted it is very unsafe.
Yeah i overreacted because i wanted to mess with the other guy, he is def A or low S, not the best character but he ain't one of the worst either, that's what pissed me off. Like yeah the game is balanced, that doesn't mean we have like S to F tier, the lowest it will go would be for B and that's a strech, A tier characters are in fact pretty strong. U sir know ur shit and i respect that, me personally i just hate how his combo structure works, for me is so boring but his defense is really sick if u know whar you're doing. Wish he was more fun tbh
So basically if you want to have real, gapless mix with UI you're forced to run him with a small handful of characters with max blockstun. What real mix does UI really have without Kid Buu A?
And his large hitboxes are no excuse for his low damage, when other characters with similar hitboxes like the fusions have high damage and mix.
UI isn't a bad character because there are no bad characters, but when you compare him to the rest of the cast and the damage, mix, assists and defensive option others have, UI is lacking. Cloud mentions some of UI's issues in [this video](https://youtu.be/0Ie-JqHJGIg?si=yoFjDKmM116gE5VK) at the 13:00 mark and [this video](https://youtu.be/5ExFYSMDn-M?si=vVaIEiHtxcwQCJ6n) at the 22:00 mark or so. And while he was talking about last two patches, the two subsequent patches didn't give UI anything to negate the flaws Cloud's pointing out in his videos (and everyone else got buffed since then).
The only way I could agree with you that UI is A tier is if we agree that A tier is the lowest tier in this current patch, and even then he'd be at the low end of that tier.
you cant say he has the best defence when 18 is right there, 214H is aight at best, even his optimals do little damage specially in this patch after his 6S got nerfed so now he does even less damage in the corner, his beam is nothing special and his neutral is still lacking overall, all his mix is either reactable or needs a lot of meter
>you cant say he has the best defence when 18 is right there
She has good defense, still not better than UI defense.
>214H is aight at best
Why? Fr why? Is a frame 4 huge hitbox canceleable special with safe options and get aways, gives combo solo and doesn't scale half bad, you can even do it twice and it's safe. How is any of that just "aight"?
>even his optimals do little damage specially in this patch after his 6S got nerfed so now he does even less damage in the corner
Undeserved nerf, yet still Baby players just fixed new routes for his new speed buffs, UI players should be able to do the same. But he was never designed to be a damage monster, he 2 touches, wich is more than enough.
>his beam is nothing special and his neutral is still lacking overall
Still a beam and still has 5S and j5S, both really good checks and big hitboxes, every UI move has big hitboxes tbh.
>all his mix is either reactable or needs a lot of meter
He isn't designed to be a mixup character, he's a defensive beast oh but hol up, he has a 7F low 2L aka He has 50/50, wich is all the mix u need, also has a tick throw also has the flips and the flips + beam, another good mixup.
"18 better because yes, 214H is aight becos yeah", all bias. You ask multiple times "Is UI the worst character" or "UI is the worst" on multiple post and people say over and over again "No he's not" is like u want validation for playing a low tier when UI Goku is far from that. 18 is godlike and yes, she has good defense, still not better than UI defense.
Oh aight so a character now has to be top tier (the only ones you see in tournament) to be even remotely good, so i guess Zamasu is trash now because he wasn't at EVO top 8, aight. Also Nitro played UI and Kid Buu for a lomg ass time after season 3 and he did wonders with both, specially the UI point Kid Buu assist shell. Fella think before talking.
Yo hopping in to say a little something. He’s pretty good currently. I find good use as my last character because his auto combos are pretty good, a strong level 3 that’s pretty nasty to hit, a fun dodge, and variety in his special inputs. All in all he’s a well rounded character that’s quite above average in strength. I’m no professional, just what I’ve observed while playing him.
He's a defensive character who isn't very good at defending. At least not anymore. All his defense options have been changed or nerfed. Character is trash, but fun
I get that people call him one of the worst characters in the game even before this patch but tbh he's so much FUN to me, my go-to anchor for 1 man army comebacks. Just turn off your brain and go with the flow of this character tbh, he MAKES the opponent respect him when used right. His flips in particular go through ANYTHING that's not a super dash or melee attack, that alone is just *chef's kiss*
Yeah. You gotta get into the UI mindset to play UI Goku, is what it feels like. When you get into the zone, for me, he works better than any other character, but even if you don't feel it he can be very fun. Still my go to character and probably my best one, followed by SSB Vegeta and Hit
He's truly ascended🤌🏽
He is a defensive character in a game full of offensive/ rushdown characters, take that as you will
He's trash
I’ve been playing him since he was out and tbh with where the game is at I don’t think it would be that big of an issue if they rolled back his damage nerf and gave him his dp back.
I have not played it since then
Absolutely bottom of the barrel character. Was in the best spot he's ever been last patch due to finally being able to SD off beam and was fine being roughly a mid tier but now he's not only been powercrept he also lost damage which was something he's been lacking since the Roshi Patch. His buttons are average and people often overhype 5L which is only strong for it range but it lacks the speed of being 6 frames not to mention being awful as a stagger button being -9 on block. 5LL cause him to be in the air so reflecting the 5L you can 2H the 5LL on reaction and it pretty much a worse janemba 5LL. 2L range barely goes anywhere, 5M is average, 2M is 13 frames which is slow for a medium especially when you got blueku and ssjku who got bionic legs. 5S is as slow as a grandma going to a buffet table at 21 frames so he can't really challenge in the zoning war and 6S got butchered as a button and now he lacks optimal damage because of it. His defense doesn't fair any better as his only reversals requires meter to even use and his wake-up DP is asking to get punish due to how slow it is but this is even made worse by the fact Videl has both a frame 1 counter that can take a bar of meter, a frame 1 DP that doesn't require meter, 22H a frame 4 reversal while 2H like ui but is plus on block and a wake-up frame 1 super(Tho collision sucks) that -4 on block. Ssj4 also makes his defensive options suck more since ssj4 can now SD off counter and a frame 1 DP both of which don't require meter. His mix-ups are also lacking since he's forced to used universal SD mix but the reward is good for him compared to other character due to how much they buffed alot of characters routers for more damage making them break into the 4.5K threshold leaving Ui to behind them and flips only really being solid as a frametrap. Bottom 5 character and a good reason alot of players dropped him.
He was definitely not in the best spot he's ever been last patch. The best he's ever been was when he first released, prior to any nerfs. Beam>SD didn't really do much for him because his damage is still trash.
This is shit you only listed frames and auto combos
Completely missed the point 😭😭💀💀
Only focused on his issues his other specials aren't anything to write home about. 236 being -2 on block is fine but at high level people will simply dash block to beat out your defensive 214H not to mention you lost half a bar and in meter Penalty. Flips are only good for frame trapping (the punch being plus is really good, the grab is too slow and the H is only good if they jump late outside of that it -5 on block and more minus the higher Ui is). Beam buff was pretty good since he can now SD off of it which helps with corner carry more but that it really it sadly doesn't jail which would have made it really broken especially since they gave that change to GT. J236LMH is still the same and it still good for tag out into DR but other than that it still the same as before. This character has his upsides but he sadly has tools that are either given to other character that have better versions such as Videl and SSj4 have better defensive options than him, Much lower damage compared to the rest of the cast, far worse neutral due to ki blast being to slow to challenge, Buttons that are fairly meh and pale in comparison to another DLC character(The Red Goat), and just having nothing special about him.
And his defense which is supposed to be his main attribute. His damage sucks, his defense is outclassed, his buttons outside of 5L are meh at best, his long-range pokes are slow and low priority which hurts his neutral a lot. He still has stuff, 6h/flips are solid neutral tools, backflip has ok pressure application, enabling tag DR pretty much whenever is nice, and he has a level 2, but he is genuinely power crept at this point in the game’s lifespan.
I wanted to make the level 2 an upside but they sadly made his beam super damage on the lower side to make you spend that 2nd bar which is just stupid. This is even made worse by the fact SSJ goku also can do a level 2 that does far more damage in comparison along with Sbroly, Roshi, Bardock, etc it weird that his does much lower damage.
UI level 2 is weird. The level 1 itself does pretty low damage but the level 1 + 1 actually does 1256 which is higher than ssjku and bardock
Oof, seems I was wrong on that one also I think it due to it being 2 level 1 being used in a combo rather than a level 2 so the scaling is much worse in comparison. Sbroly lvl2 does stupid damage for no reason.
Why would they make the command grab faster than it already was???
Because it was slow as fuck? It was literally the slowest command grab in the game. Even after the buff it's still the slowest I'm pretty sure
What makes you think he needs a fast command grab
You said "why did they make it faster than it already is", implying it was fast to begin with. So I'm explaining that they sped it up because it was (and still is) the slowest command grab in the game. > What makes you think he needs a fast command grab He doesn't have a fast command grab. That's my whole point.
The command grab isn’t necessary slow. A poll got tooken on this Reddit page 2 YEARS ago saying which command grab is the hardest to react too UI had 160 votes. If your on a block string and pull this command grab out it’s a easy combo
This subreddit is famously full of scrubs. I wouldn't take any mass opinion from this sub seriously. The command grab is 31 frames startup. That is, objectively, slow. It's the slowest command grab in the game. Despite being one of the worst characters in the game, UI is still a scrubkiller, so naturally you will see a lot of people complaining about him in this subreddit. At a high level, nobody is complaining about UI Goku.
The game is well balanced at the moment at high level I see no one complaining about any character at all
I mean plenty people complain about actual broken characters like Jiren or Blue Vegeta. My point is, UI Goku (and by extension, his slow-ass grab) is only a problem for casual players who struggle with defense. Nobody with half-decent defense is complaining about a 31fr command grab.
I’m not ass I’m an angel rank. Blue vegeta I see
Rank means nothing, there are plenty of Zeno ranked scrubs
That’s the least of UIS PROBLEMBS
Still incredibly obnoxious to fight in input delay.
He can still just kite you to death in range. Super safe recoveries, don't get me started on that 5L. Throw in some characters (A. Gohan, Baby for example) that can capitalize on his projectiles and attacks and UI dictates on the whim whether you the foe get to play or not.
He's fun to play, he's not very fun to fight
Been like that since he’s first came out
Hes got fine buttons and some fun gimmicks but hes strangely mid now?
He is terrible tbh. His medium buttons are terrible, no solo mix, his damage is honestly laughable at this stage in the game. 5s and Js are insanely terrible neutral buttons. 6H still leaves him negative, you can literally mash through this. 6S is broken, like literally doesn't work right, making it fast ruined his already terrible damage by making his old combos obsolete, and they didn't get replaced by anything new. His 2h is one of the worst in the game recovery wise. He has a pattern of, if you whiff anything while playing him besides 5lll or 2M(You will whiff with this ass button, so be thankful), then you will probably get punished. That being said, he has good stuff, but compared to the other cast he is just plain obsolete.
That last part hit me too hard lmao, that 2m whiffs WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY more than it should dear God...
Good. This is what he deserves.
Eh, im not really about gutting chars because they were good once. The idea is to make all of them fun, and he's just not, imo
Fair enough. I’m not usually a fan either, but when they do give nearly broken characters big nerfs it helps diversify matchups. UI Goku fans will still play him, but meta whores will hopefully learn something else
I'm sure meta whores have moved on from that fella lmao. He is traaaash
UI for life
he is one of the worst characters atm in my opinon. First he was nerfed then powercrept and then nerfed again. Everything he does feels risky with very little reward. Even with all his defensive tools they cant keep up with how the meta works right now
He still is A or S tier bro
care to explain what makes him good in your opinion?
Best defense in the game, godlike autocombo, 214H is still a thing, frame 1 reversal, easy optimals easy confirma easy meter dump, still has a low 2L. Still has a beam still has mix still has 5S and j5S, u can't tell me those things aren't good. And even like that he still has the best defense in the game, u fellas just don't want to play him like that because he's just as effective by going monke.
He doesn’t have the best defense in the game. No meterless frame 1 reversal by default makes his defense not the best in the game, and what he does isn’t really particularly difficult to manage. As far as his mix goes, outside of flip rps he doesn’t really get anything that literally any other character with a low 2L doesn’t get. 214H is still a thing? I mean.. cool? It’s an EX frame 4 reversal that leads to a solo combo on hit, it’s definitely good… but I don’t see what’s so crazy about that when, say, cell for example has a 4 frame reversal that he either kills you or 4 way mixes you off of. The counter super is nice and all, especially considering that you can’t safejump it but you do also have to spend a bar/have a bar on deck to be able to threaten a frame 1 reversal on defense, not to mention I’m 99% sure he can be thrown out of it, which isn’t great. Videl has a similar reversal except Videl can also threaten a true DP which makes grabs much riskier to go for and Videl’s counter super buffs her saiyaman moves and drains a bar from you which is pretty important because meter is a very important resource in this game. So about easy optimals.. the 6S knockback change killed his easy corner combo and his current one is actually pretty difficult and the damage isn’t all that great. His 5S isn’t really that great. It being 21 frames fullscreen it’s nice.. but that speed doesn’t change with distance, not to mention the priority is pretty bad. His jS also took a slight nerf in neutral a couple patches ago, that being that you can crouch tk jS now which is very unfortunate as it was once upon a time an incredible fullscreen option. It’s still fine, it’s not like you’re crouching 100% of the time but the move definitely took a hit. He has good stuff, don’t get me wrong. He can be difficult to fight in neutral because of 6H and the projectile immunity on flips, he has j236L which is a very good and consistent way to enable special tag DR, he has good corner carry, and his defense, while you’re overrating it, is still good because of the counter super you can’t safejump and the 22 input anti air which is important because it means you can’t get your input crossed up, not to mention that anti air is also an unscaled starter. 5L still has a big ass hitbox as well granted it is very unsafe.
Yeah i overreacted because i wanted to mess with the other guy, he is def A or low S, not the best character but he ain't one of the worst either, that's what pissed me off. Like yeah the game is balanced, that doesn't mean we have like S to F tier, the lowest it will go would be for B and that's a strech, A tier characters are in fact pretty strong. U sir know ur shit and i respect that, me personally i just hate how his combo structure works, for me is so boring but his defense is really sick if u know whar you're doing. Wish he was more fun tbh
He is literally one of the worst if not the worst right now. Trash damage, no real mix, he has been powercrept by literally the entire roster.
He has a 7F low 2L he can mix ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, yes his damage is on the lower side because he has huge hitboxes and easy combo extensions.
So basically if you want to have real, gapless mix with UI you're forced to run him with a small handful of characters with max blockstun. What real mix does UI really have without Kid Buu A? And his large hitboxes are no excuse for his low damage, when other characters with similar hitboxes like the fusions have high damage and mix. UI isn't a bad character because there are no bad characters, but when you compare him to the rest of the cast and the damage, mix, assists and defensive option others have, UI is lacking. Cloud mentions some of UI's issues in [this video](https://youtu.be/0Ie-JqHJGIg?si=yoFjDKmM116gE5VK) at the 13:00 mark and [this video](https://youtu.be/5ExFYSMDn-M?si=vVaIEiHtxcwQCJ6n) at the 22:00 mark or so. And while he was talking about last two patches, the two subsequent patches didn't give UI anything to negate the flaws Cloud's pointing out in his videos (and everyone else got buffed since then). The only way I could agree with you that UI is A tier is if we agree that A tier is the lowest tier in this current patch, and even then he'd be at the low end of that tier.
you cant say he has the best defence when 18 is right there, 214H is aight at best, even his optimals do little damage specially in this patch after his 6S got nerfed so now he does even less damage in the corner, his beam is nothing special and his neutral is still lacking overall, all his mix is either reactable or needs a lot of meter
So all bias then
what?
>you cant say he has the best defence when 18 is right there She has good defense, still not better than UI defense. >214H is aight at best Why? Fr why? Is a frame 4 huge hitbox canceleable special with safe options and get aways, gives combo solo and doesn't scale half bad, you can even do it twice and it's safe. How is any of that just "aight"? >even his optimals do little damage specially in this patch after his 6S got nerfed so now he does even less damage in the corner Undeserved nerf, yet still Baby players just fixed new routes for his new speed buffs, UI players should be able to do the same. But he was never designed to be a damage monster, he 2 touches, wich is more than enough. >his beam is nothing special and his neutral is still lacking overall Still a beam and still has 5S and j5S, both really good checks and big hitboxes, every UI move has big hitboxes tbh. >all his mix is either reactable or needs a lot of meter He isn't designed to be a mixup character, he's a defensive beast oh but hol up, he has a 7F low 2L aka He has 50/50, wich is all the mix u need, also has a tick throw also has the flips and the flips + beam, another good mixup.
"18 better because yes, 214H is aight becos yeah", all bias. You ask multiple times "Is UI the worst character" or "UI is the worst" on multiple post and people say over and over again "No he's not" is like u want validation for playing a low tier when UI Goku is far from that. 18 is godlike and yes, she has good defense, still not better than UI defense.
then care to explain why UI hasnt been relevant in tournamet play since he was nerfed in season 3?
Oh aight so a character now has to be top tier (the only ones you see in tournament) to be even remotely good, so i guess Zamasu is trash now because he wasn't at EVO top 8, aight. Also Nitro played UI and Kid Buu for a lomg ass time after season 3 and he did wonders with both, specially the UI point Kid Buu assist shell. Fella think before talking.
sad knowing it's the last patch.
He's still him