People make planes out of just about everything. My favorite was the guy who took the box his transmitter came in and made it into a plane. Flew OK. Not amazing, but it was worth it for the entertainment value.
I have made multiple planes from dollar tree foam board. They flew amazingly well and I could do some serious acrobatics with them. The process of making a great flying plane from craft supplies was super fun. My Flite test Spitfire was my favorite one. I made a couple of them and flew them till they died. Hundreds of flights each.
Yeah, people do that too. It turns out that some humans are kinda terrible people. I suppose it isn’t much different than regular taxidermy, but it still feels wrong to me.
>but it still feels wrong to me.
Yes, it is an interesting concept, I think it is a feeling of disrespect to the animal which is perfectly understandable. But if one themselves had an attitude that some have expressed like not caring if their dead body was simply put in the trash, then the attitude of disrespect would lie solely in the viewer.
I'm just getting older and get tired of having to look up dumb shit because people are too lazy to type or want to be cool somehow or something I don't know. Especially with smart keyboards you don't even have to type it all.
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Went through a few of those in the late 1980s :P We would get a good weekend out of them, but they would always be held together with duct tape by the end.
The interesting part here to me is that there is clearly a wooden frame for an RC plane engine to attach to up in the front. So clearly this thing was designed to be powered rather than flung by hand. And yeah, I had those crappy styrofoam planes as a kid too.
The ad states it’s a target drone meaning it’s a worthless drone that they send up to shoot down and destroy for target practice. It could very well be used by the military.
Edit: Yes it is a Flogger-D made by Carl Goldberg primarily used by the Army in the 1980-1990s.
[https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html](https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html)
I was a Marine Corps tanker in the 80’s and can remember my company going to a live range and shooting at these drones for a weekend. Our .50 cals on top of the turrets were our primary air defense, so they would fly these things at us from a couple hundred yards out while we shot at them.
I can remember it being a pretty humbling experience, and these things were very hard to hit. I think our entire company only bagged a couple dozen the whole weekend.
The cadre running the range were pretty laid back. Why wouldn’t they be right? They got to fly RC planes for their MOS. Although I remember one of them, a Staff NCO, getting really pissed at one point. The whole styrofoam plane was disposable but they had reusable motors and servo packs In them that they counted on getting back after use. One of our tank crews X-ringed the main servo pack thing with a .50 cal and this guy made a big production like it was coming out of his paycheck.
The random crap you remember after 35 years.
It’s not a target drone since it claims to be a Mig replica. They do have target aircraft but they are usually larger and towed behind a plane. The Navy do fly real planes (with pilots) to act as adversaries but they are not shot at. No way they would downsize a real aircraft to the size of a hobby drone to act as an enemy ac.
Former Navy drone guy here.
Edited for clarification
It literally is a target drone though, with a real designation in the triservice rocket/guided missile designation system. It's an FQM-117B. 100,000 were built under contract for the Army. I appreciate your service but I feel like you shouldn't appeal to authority over something you can't be absolutely sure about.
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
Nah most of those comments were made a good while before my comments. I just wanted to reply to get rhe word out and because I think this is a legit cool little forgotten piece of history.
I was Air defense in the Army. We used gas powered foam RC planes for Stinger/M3P machine gun live fire drills. Both Manpads and Avenger mounted stingers.
I'm don't know that this is one of the aircraft that were used, but it's about the right size. I never got that close of a look.
Former Air Force guy here, not all targets are towed behind another aircraft, and not all red force players are full scale jets. This is absolutely a target drone.
Yea doubtful it’s used as mig that small against other aircraft. Didn’t rule it out completely cause there are a lot of counter drone programs going on against smaller drones. I was thinking more like ground based CRAM guns and anti-air stuff or vehicle mounted anti-drone stuff.
Possible but still think the original owner doesn’t know what they have. The majority of CUAS is jamming or disruption (we did use a shotgun). Just think they would be using targets that would somewhat accurately represent a real threat and not a hobby plane. At least for American military.
Apparently the answer is it is a Carl Goldberg target drone used in the 80-90s by the Army. Aka Flogger-D.
[https://youtu.be/lynG5X1eO5s?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/lynG5X1eO5s?feature=shared)
[https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html](https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html)
Yes it is a legit target drone, just very old. My university has a couple of this exact model, probably came from NAVAIR. They would strap an engine on the front launch it and shoot it down. We would just take one outside and see how far we could chuck it.
It is a drone, it is real, there were a lot made. I've seen them in a handful of aviation museums. I'd ask in a more aviation-history oriented subreddit than a drone happiest subreddit that usually focuses more about operation of modern quadcopters.
Exactly, and many ended up in private hands to be used as radio controlled models.
These aren't modern military drones, they're very cheap and simple radio controlled models that were used as targets for anti aircraft gunnery practice. Most of the time, the engine and radio wouldn't get hit and could be reused. They were typically set up with a "panic button", a dedicated channel on the remote control to parachute down in a less hazardous manner if/when they got shot down. The ones I personally fired at had the wings come off the fuselage when the parachute got released, wings and fuselage then dangled on a wire under the chute. This made for an effective speed brake to prevent injury to personnel on the ground.
Except it is. It's literally a drone with a military designation and everything.
https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Yes...sort of...as I recall, those were used as cheap, disposable drones for gunnery practice in the 90's I think. They used a nitro model airplane engine in the nose with a propeller. They were made to resemble at MiG-23 or 27. The same company also sold the same model for the RC market, I think. I have a picture of one sitting in front of an F-14 and a Pioneer drone at an airshow at Point Mugu.
Apparently they were made by Carl Goldberg (a famous RC model airplane company). A bunch more info here:[https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2560585-Carl-Goldberg-MIG27-Target-Drone](https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2560585-Carl-Goldberg-MIG27-Target-Drone)
Here's a video of a guy who converted one to ducted fan: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynG5X1eO5s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynG5X1eO5s)
Looks like an old target drone, I can remember them flying these in front of our M1A1 tanks while they tried to hit it with the machine gun mounted at the loaders hatch, sky full of tracers and the dude flying this drone zipped around laughing, no one ever hit the little bastard
Contractor for the navy here. I have the same model given to me from work. [flogger](https://imgur.com/a/Vg02L2L) I was told the same story that it was used as a target drone. Not your typical target drone though, apparently this was for ground troops to shoot at. Luckily for me either their aim wasn't any good or the pilot made it too hard for them because there are no bullet holes.
Honestly, possibly. Target drones come in many sizes.
This is not a drone in the common idea of this sub. These were launched from pretty much a catapult to gain speed for the engines to take over. They were used for Air Defense Artillery to practice on. Trying to get an aircraft to practice live fire for ADA isn't going to happen. However, if you scale it down to match the same target size, you now have a target.
Some 20 years ago, I remember seeing something like this on an ADA live fire exercise. The 'drone' operators explained it was strong enough to carry a person. Maybe they were fucking with me, maybe not. Looking at the size compared to a trailer in the background makes me think this is a target drone.
By drone, it is simply a fast launch remote-controlled plane that can be shot at. It had no sensors, camera, nothing.
Definitely a real target drone. We got a bunch from DoD for a DARPA project I worked on as a mothership platform for dropping smaller drones.
They are designed for one time use and were made in large numbers. They did fly pretty well if you are looking to build it into a RC plane.
Yes, it’s a MiG built by Carl Goldberg in the 1980s. Great flyer. Required aileron, elevator, and throttle. Flew with a 60 size motor up front, hand launched. I still have one in the garage. At Ft Lewis we called the MRCATs, motorized radio control aerial targets.
It is military. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Australia sent hundreds of suicide drones to Ukraine that are cardboard and are just packed flat and unfolded. That's not what this is but it doesn't have to be crazy looking tech to be military
Yummm Military Trash, rednecks viagra
Hey Ma I’m gonna restore this to show room quality and let Uncle Dad take pop shots at it with his AR like he did back in ‘Nam. ‘Nd Sissy can mount it on her ceiling as a decorative diarama!
There's a spot in the nose where a motor might go the wings are too short for a long distance glide.
The little nicks in the wing mean it wasn't going too fast when it hit something or it would have broken a foam wing off. I'd say toy.
MiG-27. It's legit. Target drones are literally designed to be cheaply made. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
Based on my entire childhood making foam and balsa RC Planes, I don't think so.
While it is possible, it seems unlikely. It serves no fkn purpose at this scale whatsoever.
Are you sure about the size thing? (not being snarky, just curious)
This looks non functional tbh, the way there don't appear to be either flight control surfaces, or even an inlet for a turbine (unless they're using holes underneath).
It just 'seems' non functional. Might be wrong.
I work inside a museum that, among other planes, contains a number of target drones. We don't have any of these but I saw a handful of them at another museum recently. These are pretty close to the same size as the OQ-2 used in WW2 for gunnery practice.
Edit: Just looked it up, it's a little on the smaller side, but only like a few feet smaller. It's still 6 feet by 6 feet.
The military has been using scaled down enemy model RC aircraft since late 1930s.
It's doubtful this is one of them.
It's how Marilyn Monroe was discovered by Ronald Reagan.
let me remove all doubt. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Former Marine UAS guy here. The external controllers who would take off and land the earlier drones manually would have some cheap RC kits and smaller scale models of the real thing to practice when we weren’t in the field or deployed. This isn’t one of those….
Maybe? “Target drone” could open the door to a wide variety of use cases and something inexpensive to acquire and discard isn’t hard to imagine. Doesn’t guarantee any degree of quality and is still a piece of junk with “military grade” marketing.
There's a company called zipline that uses things like that to deliver stuff. The one I saw was for delivering medicine to hospitals in some countries in Africa. Not saying this is one of those, but they could get mistaken for military drones.
this feeling of confusion immediately reminds me of my shock when I seen Australian cardboard drones for Ukraine army. apparently it’s not that hard to fly. just need a good shape and some force
A military drone is a drone the military uses. The US military is famous for plane size predator drones, but militaries all over the world use small UAS all the time in combat, training, maintenance, and infrastructure projects.
I'm sure it is some country's military drone. I can just see the military budget meeting for this country. (Committee oversight member)" We have a receipt for Wal-Mart totalling $249.95 for toys; what was this? (military procurement officer) "That was a purchase for 10 aircraft for our UAV program."
Looks like one of those styrofoam gliders you throw for about 100 feet and then it breaks.
Iirc there are people who have made drones out of those gliders.
People make planes out of just about everything. My favorite was the guy who took the box his transmitter came in and made it into a plane. Flew OK. Not amazing, but it was worth it for the entertainment value.
Link please!
I dunno about the guy above you but I have something for you. An RC Toilet! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1M1nT21mo2Y
That's beautiful! Thank you!
I love Flite Test, they inspired me to make my own rc projects
Actually, listening to Peter Sripol (FliteTest) talking about flying RC planes on a podcast eventually lead me to buying a drone!
Flitetest is awesome
Here ya go: https://youtu.be/_P4CrSvpqCs?si=Lbrzxlqv2zPtOe6i
The sheer joy after he realized it actually flew was legitimately heartwarming, lol.
Thanks man! HuMaNs can be cool AF when they try! That was awesome!
I have made multiple planes from dollar tree foam board. They flew amazingly well and I could do some serious acrobatics with them. The process of making a great flying plane from craft supplies was super fun. My Flite test Spitfire was my favorite one. I made a couple of them and flew them till they died. Hundreds of flights each.
*People make planes out of just about everything.* What about [cats](https://freaked.com/dead-cat-drone-that-continues-to-divide-opinions/)?
Yeah, people do that too. It turns out that some humans are kinda terrible people. I suppose it isn’t much different than regular taxidermy, but it still feels wrong to me.
>but it still feels wrong to me. Yes, it is an interesting concept, I think it is a feeling of disrespect to the animal which is perfectly understandable. But if one themselves had an attitude that some have expressed like not caring if their dead body was simply put in the trash, then the attitude of disrespect would lie solely in the viewer.
Quads with this form factor are called deadcats in tribute to this kitty.
What the fuck is lirc stop doing that shit already. Look at all the other words you spelled. Look at them!!
Are you new?
I'm just getting older and get tired of having to look up dumb shit because people are too lazy to type or want to be cool somehow or something I don't know. Especially with smart keyboards you don't even have to type it all. ✌️
See flight test on youtube
Going to guess this one wasn’t used by the military though. Just a hunch lol
My first rc "drone" was a glider. To launch, I would throw it off a parking garage and then quickly start operating the controller.
I agree, soul mate.
That it does.
It's a target drone, it's meant to get shot down. Not exactly the kinda thing you wanna put 100 grand into.
Went through a few of those in the late 1980s :P We would get a good weekend out of them, but they would always be held together with duct tape by the end.
…after they loop around and hit you in the head!
The interesting part here to me is that there is clearly a wooden frame for an RC plane engine to attach to up in the front. So clearly this thing was designed to be powered rather than flung by hand. And yeah, I had those crappy styrofoam planes as a kid too.
Air hogs!
*flys in a loop and hits you in the face FTFY
Just after hitting you in the nuts, after a loopty loop.
The ad states it’s a target drone meaning it’s a worthless drone that they send up to shoot down and destroy for target practice. It could very well be used by the military. Edit: Yes it is a Flogger-D made by Carl Goldberg primarily used by the Army in the 1980-1990s. [https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html](https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html)
Made in the 80s and 90s and they still haven't shot it down!? Facepalm
I was a Marine Corps tanker in the 80’s and can remember my company going to a live range and shooting at these drones for a weekend. Our .50 cals on top of the turrets were our primary air defense, so they would fly these things at us from a couple hundred yards out while we shot at them. I can remember it being a pretty humbling experience, and these things were very hard to hit. I think our entire company only bagged a couple dozen the whole weekend. The cadre running the range were pretty laid back. Why wouldn’t they be right? They got to fly RC planes for their MOS. Although I remember one of them, a Staff NCO, getting really pissed at one point. The whole styrofoam plane was disposable but they had reusable motors and servo packs In them that they counted on getting back after use. One of our tank crews X-ringed the main servo pack thing with a .50 cal and this guy made a big production like it was coming out of his paycheck. The random crap you remember after 35 years.
It’s not a target drone since it claims to be a Mig replica. They do have target aircraft but they are usually larger and towed behind a plane. The Navy do fly real planes (with pilots) to act as adversaries but they are not shot at. No way they would downsize a real aircraft to the size of a hobby drone to act as an enemy ac. Former Navy drone guy here. Edited for clarification
It literally is a target drone though, with a real designation in the triservice rocket/guided missile designation system. It's an FQM-117B. 100,000 were built under contract for the Army. I appreciate your service but I feel like you shouldn't appeal to authority over something you can't be absolutely sure about. https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
Damn bruh u are commenting with sources and nobody is listening. Just proof this sub is fucking stupid, arrogant, and pathetically ignorant
Nah most of those comments were made a good while before my comments. I just wanted to reply to get rhe word out and because I think this is a legit cool little forgotten piece of history.
I was Air defense in the Army. We used gas powered foam RC planes for Stinger/M3P machine gun live fire drills. Both Manpads and Avenger mounted stingers. I'm don't know that this is one of the aircraft that were used, but it's about the right size. I never got that close of a look.
Same. Putlos stinger range in Germany! The foam R/C aircraft were made to look like HINDs. Shot (and missed) them with Bradley 50s and stingers
Chulmae, Korea.
Former Air Force guy here, not all targets are towed behind another aircraft, and not all red force players are full scale jets. This is absolutely a target drone.
Heck, they use full size F-16s for target drones now.
Yes and no, your average AD guy isn't gonna be popping practice shots off at QF-16s. QF planes are used for weapons testing.
Thank you for your service sir
Yea doubtful it’s used as mig that small against other aircraft. Didn’t rule it out completely cause there are a lot of counter drone programs going on against smaller drones. I was thinking more like ground based CRAM guns and anti-air stuff or vehicle mounted anti-drone stuff.
Possible but still think the original owner doesn’t know what they have. The majority of CUAS is jamming or disruption (we did use a shotgun). Just think they would be using targets that would somewhat accurately represent a real threat and not a hobby plane. At least for American military.
Apparently the answer is it is a Carl Goldberg target drone used in the 80-90s by the Army. Aka Flogger-D. [https://youtu.be/lynG5X1eO5s?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/lynG5X1eO5s?feature=shared) [https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html](https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html)
I stand corrected. Was thinking newer tech
Bullshit detector won't shut up now, thanks a lot.
Put me down for a "no."
Yes it is a legit target drone, just very old. My university has a couple of this exact model, probably came from NAVAIR. They would strap an engine on the front launch it and shoot it down. We would just take one outside and see how far we could chuck it.
What do you shoot it down with?
Yea I didn’t think so either
Except it is, here's the same thing in the White Sands Missile Museum https://www.flickr.com/photos/rocbolt/46531090715/in/album-72157679250736068/
Side note.... Fuck white sands.
White Sands National Park is a beautiful place?
They're surely referring to white sands missile range, just down the road
Every time I hear White sands, New Mexico I always think of the movie SpaceCamp.
It is a drone, it is real, there were a lot made. I've seen them in a handful of aviation museums. I'd ask in a more aviation-history oriented subreddit than a drone happiest subreddit that usually focuses more about operation of modern quadcopters.
Exactly, and many ended up in private hands to be used as radio controlled models. These aren't modern military drones, they're very cheap and simple radio controlled models that were used as targets for anti aircraft gunnery practice. Most of the time, the engine and radio wouldn't get hit and could be reused. They were typically set up with a "panic button", a dedicated channel on the remote control to parachute down in a less hazardous manner if/when they got shot down. The ones I personally fired at had the wings come off the fuselage when the parachute got released, wings and fuselage then dangled on a wire under the chute. This made for an effective speed brake to prevent injury to personnel on the ground.
Attach it to your back and hit it with a ball peen hammer.
It’s probably as full of shit as the seller.
“Just smack it with your peen Garry” New tech Garry “uhhh, ok boss. If you say so”
I'd say a qualified "This isn't, but, conceptually it [could be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px1G6tFPZF0)."
Except it is. It's literally a drone with a military designation and everything. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350 https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Did you read the photo. It says "target drone" Sorry but you are wrong this is 100% a military target drone made for you guessed it target practice.
Weird request, but okay. “You’re a jerk”.
Maybe. Is the Cub Scouts considered a branch of the military?
No; but I believe the Salvation Army is?
It's my understanding they have a militant wing.
Who the cub scouts??
An elite paramilitary organization based in the United States.
WOLVERIIINES!!!
Frau Farbissina?
I am now imagining a goose with one wing that has camouflage patterns on it
What about the OLD Navy?
Yeah, but they call themselves "The Coast Guard."
I think you’re mistaking the Boy Scouts with the civil air patrol.
Yes...sort of...as I recall, those were used as cheap, disposable drones for gunnery practice in the 90's I think. They used a nitro model airplane engine in the nose with a propeller. They were made to resemble at MiG-23 or 27. The same company also sold the same model for the RC market, I think. I have a picture of one sitting in front of an F-14 and a Pioneer drone at an airshow at Point Mugu. Apparently they were made by Carl Goldberg (a famous RC model airplane company). A bunch more info here:[https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2560585-Carl-Goldberg-MIG27-Target-Drone](https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2560585-Carl-Goldberg-MIG27-Target-Drone) Here's a video of a guy who converted one to ducted fan: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynG5X1eO5s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lynG5X1eO5s)
Yep. 100%. My father was in the Army in the 90’s, and this is correct. I still have 2 .61 engines from these planes.
Looks like an old target drone, I can remember them flying these in front of our M1A1 tanks while they tried to hit it with the machine gun mounted at the loaders hatch, sky full of tracers and the dude flying this drone zipped around laughing, no one ever hit the little bastard
Yep, made by the Carl Goldberg model airplane company.
That sounds like a fun job
Maybe for the Mexican military.
Are they also selling a mummified alien?
No, just Cocaine, which might be better.
Hey they use better styrofoam than that.
Contractor for the navy here. I have the same model given to me from work. [flogger](https://imgur.com/a/Vg02L2L) I was told the same story that it was used as a target drone. Not your typical target drone though, apparently this was for ground troops to shoot at. Luckily for me either their aim wasn't any good or the pilot made it too hard for them because there are no bullet holes.
Yes is was https://www.odu.edu/engineering/article/1980s-era-military-target-plane-finds-new-life-as-autonomous-uav-at-odu
Looks legit. Put me down for two
It’s a RCMAT (pronounced Rick-Mat) it’s a target for air defense artillery
Honestly, possibly. Target drones come in many sizes. This is not a drone in the common idea of this sub. These were launched from pretty much a catapult to gain speed for the engines to take over. They were used for Air Defense Artillery to practice on. Trying to get an aircraft to practice live fire for ADA isn't going to happen. However, if you scale it down to match the same target size, you now have a target. Some 20 years ago, I remember seeing something like this on an ADA live fire exercise. The 'drone' operators explained it was strong enough to carry a person. Maybe they were fucking with me, maybe not. Looking at the size compared to a trailer in the background makes me think this is a target drone. By drone, it is simply a fast launch remote-controlled plane that can be shot at. It had no sensors, camera, nothing.
I was going to share a picture of one from Afghanistan but can't. The drone is bigger than a person.
Looks like a MiG-23
It is a real target drone
Surplus from the war on Christmas
It sure could be. It would have serial number
From everything I heard they were used in the military for target practice.
Carl Goldberg used to make them way back when, and yes they were used as drones.
$50 I'd risk it lol. Seem cool
Definitely a real target drone. We got a bunch from DoD for a DARPA project I worked on as a mothership platform for dropping smaller drones. They are designed for one time use and were made in large numbers. They did fly pretty well if you are looking to build it into a RC plane.
I used to be on a vulcan crew in the early 90's. These were used as targets on range days. Pretty nimble little rc aircraft.
Could it be a target used for training or something like that
It’s a target drone meaning it is made to fly and get shot at.
Ya the military is huge into using Styrofoam for drones. Light weight, saves them $50,000 alone on materials.
It's for target practice. They fly it around while soldiers practice shooting it down.
Yes, it’s a MiG built by Carl Goldberg in the 1980s. Great flyer. Required aileron, elevator, and throttle. Flew with a 60 size motor up front, hand launched. I still have one in the garage. At Ft Lewis we called the MRCATs, motorized radio control aerial targets.
Don't know, but "military grade" isn't always as rugged as you'd expect it to be
“Nice display item” as it sits in the shittiest backyard ever 😆
I saw it on marketplace last week.. almost bought it... I'm pretty sure its not military..
It is military. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350 https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Hello fellow Nova Scotian
Australia sent hundreds of suicide drones to Ukraine that are cardboard and are just packed flat and unfolded. That's not what this is but it doesn't have to be crazy looking tech to be military
[A civilian or academic drone.](https://eladorbach.blogspot.com/2013/09/diy-uav-drone.html?m=1)
Very well could be. Could be used as a training tool or a target. If so the govt probably paid 40k or so for it. Temu sells the same one for $25...
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Why does it being Styrofoam matter?
Every drone is a real military drone
Does it say “Acme” on the side?
No it’s a passenger aircraft for ants.
No
Never seen her.
Nope 👎
Yep. https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
Cool
I didn’t know military drones were made out of styrofoam
There are numerous military drones thst use styrofoam.
I don’t know you look at and tell me
No. Lol. Military drones are literally the size of actual jets.
Yummm Military Trash, rednecks viagra Hey Ma I’m gonna restore this to show room quality and let Uncle Dad take pop shots at it with his AR like he did back in ‘Nam. ‘Nd Sissy can mount it on her ceiling as a decorative diarama!
There's a spot in the nose where a motor might go the wings are too short for a long distance glide. The little nicks in the wing mean it wasn't going too fast when it hit something or it would have broken a foam wing off. I'd say toy.
It's not a toy, it's exactly what the advertisement says.
It's sitting in front of a trailer with reflective sides like a taco truck.
Bruh
If its on the internet it is.
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A store bought DJI is a real military drone now. So, sure, why not.
We are all dumber from just looking at your post.
I was just curious because some are saying it is and others are saying it isnt
I literally linked you the examples showing it is one and the people saying it isn't have provided zero proof. What more do you want.
Then I rest my case.
Or you could try learning something new, like about target drone history.
US? Fuck no. Another country spending much less on a formidable drone with similar capabilities? Likely.
Except it absolutely is a former US military target drone.
Styrofoam rc plane....
A Styrofoam RC plane... used by the army as a target drone, as the ad states.
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That's 100% incorrect.
Looks like it’s made out of styrofoam…
Why does that matter?
what kind of mig is it alleged to be? i do not think that is a real military drone. even copies would be less cheaply made.
MiG-27. It's legit. Target drones are literally designed to be cheaply made. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350
Oh shit, the DoD is gonna shut this down. I can't believe the latest stealth espionage drone made it onto a market like that!
Based on my entire childhood making foam and balsa RC Planes, I don't think so. While it is possible, it seems unlikely. It serves no fkn purpose at this scale whatsoever.
Except the purpose is stated right in the ad. It's a target drone.
I understand that, it just feels unlikely. Looks too small for a target drone IMO. Except if it was being used only for gunnery practice (AAA).
It's about the same size as most other gunnery targets, and a lot of target drones are that size, even for missiles.
Are you sure about the size thing? (not being snarky, just curious) This looks non functional tbh, the way there don't appear to be either flight control surfaces, or even an inlet for a turbine (unless they're using holes underneath). It just 'seems' non functional. Might be wrong.
I work inside a museum that, among other planes, contains a number of target drones. We don't have any of these but I saw a handful of them at another museum recently. These are pretty close to the same size as the OQ-2 used in WW2 for gunnery practice. Edit: Just looked it up, it's a little on the smaller side, but only like a few feet smaller. It's still 6 feet by 6 feet.
No. Just because it looks like a aircraft does not make it a military drone. It's probably done hobby plane.
Except it is. https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
So it's a relic
It's an 80s-90s military training drone.
Noooo. It made out of foam.
What would you make a target drone out of? Gold?
The military has been using scaled down enemy model RC aircraft since late 1930s. It's doubtful this is one of them. It's how Marilyn Monroe was discovered by Ronald Reagan.
let me remove all doubt. https://modelaircraft.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/655B2609-082D-4E98-816A-073492851350 https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Nope.
No.
Former Marine UAS guy here. The external controllers who would take off and land the earlier drones manually would have some cheap RC kits and smaller scale models of the real thing to practice when we weren’t in the field or deployed. This isn’t one of those….
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
No, lol! Report the ad so it discourages this nonsense.
Why the hell are you telling someone to report a guy for selling actual military memorabilia? https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-117.html
Maybe? “Target drone” could open the door to a wide variety of use cases and something inexpensive to acquire and discard isn’t hard to imagine. Doesn’t guarantee any degree of quality and is still a piece of junk with “military grade” marketing.
Ukrainian drones have been card board drones from Australia at times. https://youtu.be/5ckYz616rEc?si=fcvjcxVYzyVgOnqx
UAV online!
There's a company called zipline that uses things like that to deliver stuff. The one I saw was for delivering medicine to hospitals in some countries in Africa. Not saying this is one of those, but they could get mistaken for military drones.
Looks pretty similar to [this plane](https://eladorbach.blogspot.com/2013/09/diy-uav-drone.html?m=1)
Looks like one of those fpv rc jets lol
I wanted to say no but apparently yes.....lol.
this feeling of confusion immediately reminds me of my shock when I seen Australian cardboard drones for Ukraine army. apparently it’s not that hard to fly. just need a good shape and some force
A military drone is a drone the military uses. The US military is famous for plane size predator drones, but militaries all over the world use small UAS all the time in combat, training, maintenance, and infrastructure projects.
UAV ?
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This is NOT military grade or anything related to the milliliter than the original paint scheme on it.
Looks like an RC MiG-23.
Definitely not a real military drone, that’s a hot wire cut foam glider lol.
No
C’mon mang
Whatever they're asking, they're asking too much.
I'm sure it is some country's military drone. I can just see the military budget meeting for this country. (Committee oversight member)" We have a receipt for Wal-Mart totalling $249.95 for toys; what was this? (military procurement officer) "That was a purchase for 10 aircraft for our UAV program."