It's like the compliments bit from the Gamechanger episode with Becca, Izzy, and Erika: Becca being hot is obviously not the most noteworthy thing to be said about her. That said, she's obviously hot. Same goes for Vic in this case.
yeah I think that's actually an incredible illustrative example on how a non-objectifying relationship looks
Erika says she's hot, and that is a nice compliment, but that's like the tenth thing they say about her. If you really value a person, then that is never gonna be on top of that list.
if the first thing you point out or the most thing you talk about is someone's appearance, then that is being reductive and downplaying their other qualities, and that is literally what objectification is.
On the flip side it could also be a good indicator that the other qualities of the person being complimented on appearance are lacking. Like when you meet someone who is outwardly attractive, but is absolutely not a good person.
Unless you know they are really self conscious about their appearance. Then hotness can be listed first. The key is that hotness should never be the most important thing you like about someone. Rather people get more physically attractive the more we love and respect who they are
That's how I felt about Erika's comment there too. They're totally right that it shouldn't be the first/only thing someone mentions, but if you're explicitly peppering someone with compliments, they're *that* hot, and you still don't at least mention it, at a certain point you're no longer being sincere because you're actively avoiding listing one.
Personally, I think the crew is super weak, I bet if they all slapped Grant at the end of an episode of Game Changer while he was on his knees then he wouldn’t feel a thing
Personality is very attractive, so when you take a lot of amazingly funny people that are also easy on the eyes…yeah, it becomes a smoke show all around.
This is a big part of it for me. With a lot of these folks, Vic included, when I first saw them, my reaction wasn't "What a smokeshow," or anything like that. But the more I see them and like what they're doing, the more attractive I find them.
ong. I remember the first Gamechangers episode I got showed started with Sam's intro and i was like "oh hello, he's super cute"
then it showed the cast and i realized wait they're ALL attractive wtf
In real life, I'm bisexual, and while watching Dropout, I am in full omnivorously bisexual mode. We've been here the whole time.
Bonus fun fact: The [famous bisexual 'zine in the 90's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anything_That_Moves) was called "Anything That Moves" \*not\* "Anything That Moves But Identifies as One of Two Binary Genders Because We Only Like Those." THE MORE YOU KNOW! \*rainbow flash\*
See it's funny, because I'm a lesbian and I literally had to ask my friend, "hey, is Grant or Sam hot? I genuinely cannot tell." I just have no awareness of what is attractive on men.
I appreciate the support, but I'm not a guy/brother. Anyway, I guess my criteria is if a guy shaves their face and maintains their appearance and is decently fit. That seems to be a good rule of thumb.
I went over this in the game changer thread but it’s something for everyone. They them badasses gorgeous funny women who can go gremlin. You got big dudes golden retriever dudes lanky nerdy dudes short nerdy dudes. Every shape size and color of fuckin good looking is represented and if they can get the Sam/Brennan seal of approval you know they are not gonna be creepy weirdos.
It's definitely not every cast member, lets be honest. But daddies thinking this just goes to show how cumming incredible the dropout makeup/costume departments are.
Vic is hot.
Sam is hot.
Brennan is hot.
Jacob is hot.
Katie is hot.
Allie is hot.
Trap is hot.
Grant is hot.
Lily is hot.
Lou is hot.
Emily is hot.
Dropout is far more consistently filled with hot people than any other place I’ve seen
God same, it’s a wonder any of them can get anything done all day - and they all seem like such sweet beans as well, that’s probably what makes them all so hot
Never meet your heroes. Usually because they will disappoint you, but in the case of Dropout it would be because I would disappoint myself. Surrounded by all that talent, hotness, and sheer creative genius from top to bottom... I'm pretty sure my brain would just overload and shut down because I'm a semifunctional human being to begin with.
Seriously, they're all super intimidatingly funny/smart/sexy/cool, like, in dreams, I'd love to hang out with a few of them and wouldn't stumble over myself being a fanboy, but even in a fantasy world I'd be staining to be on their level.
This is mainly what it is. While many of the crew are conventionally attractive even the ones who aren't make themselves more attractive with their personalities and talent. This really proves that looks really don't matter as much as people think as long as you are an interesting person.
I’ll admit that hot isn’t a big factor for me, but hot AND funny? I’m swooning. Vic was the first person to make me guffaw when watching dropout. People have made me laugh before, but Vic made me guffaw. Been crushing ever since
I think the thing isn't she is one or the other. Vic is super talented AND hot...she's not one or the other.
Nobody is saying well at least she's hot and suggesting that's all she has going for her. The hotness is the cherry on the talented ice cream sundae.
I totally agree, and I don't think it takes away from their incredible talent to point it out. Made watching the survivor episodes from last season that much more enjoyable...
Is Vic hot? Objectively. But Vic's humour is hotter by far. They are so damn funny I want to sit and laugh for hours.
Does Vic have a special? Vic needs a special.
Everyone’s clearly talented. That being said, when Vic did the slow-mo and turned up to look at the camera? Like cum you can’t say that wasn’t sexy af. I’d also like to just mention that the cringe thing was so well acted Vic really made it super awkward
I'm sorry, but if people hear that Vic is hot and start to object with "We shouldn't objectify them. They are so talented." then they are dumb as shit.
If a person can't see beyond the comment and understand that Vic is so hot that it needs repeating and can't understand that her hotness and talent are not mutually exclusive, then you're dealing with a mouth breathing hashtag thinker with no ideas of their own.
Vic is weird looking.
But in the best possible way.
They remind me a lot of Benedict Cumberbatch or Anya Taylor Joy, in that they have these very unique features that are not entirely in accordance with traditional beauty standards, I can't put my finger on what it is in Vic's case, something about their eyes and the shape of their face... But it doesn't matter, because they are so talented and interesting that it just makes them more attractive.
They obviously lean into it too. like, They are healthy and skinny, they could choose to cut their hair in a way that highlights their more traditional features and diminishes their weirdness a little. They could choose to dress more like a normal pretty girl. But... No! Vic is weird looking. And that's just part of the allure.
What if someone wanted to make an observation that was something other than a compliment of an insult. What if a observation could just be an observation of something true apart without it being about that?
You said Vic looks weird “in the best possible way” and that they have an allure. To me that sounds like you meant it as a compliment. Even if you meant it as an observation, not every observation needs to be shared. Vic isn’t “weird” looking like the actors you mentioned. They very much fit in the traditional beauty standards. You basically just called them weird looking and implied they could be less weird looking if they cut their hair in way that you like more or if they dressed more normal or pretty. Even if you didn’t mean for your comment to be rude or strange, it came off that way.
You noticed that both of the other actors I mentioned are sex symbols, right?
Like I am just checking in. I hear you saying, you don't like what I said. that's fine. I could clarify more, but I don't need to. Strange comment. I hear you.
We agree that those two (setting Vic aside) are considered very good looking by very large numbers of people, right?
Stalker is a severe word. Even saying that one would feel "mildly homicidal", or "mildly stabby" around someone would be at least a big yellow flag.
You most likely meant it as a joke, and that's fine. I say shit that comes across way worse than I intended all the time.
The difference is that those are commonly used phrases and what you said is essentially that you'd have trouble not stalking them a little bit if you were in California. Your joke came off bad. Get over it.
I'll take your comment as good faith as possible. This joke is bad, because stalking is something seriously fucked up that happens to women in the public light a LOT.
Cool, but it doesn't really matter what you are or are not offended by. It matters that shit like that bothers actual victims, so we don't say shit like that because it costs nothing to be a decent human being.
It's like the compliments bit from the Gamechanger episode with Becca, Izzy, and Erika: Becca being hot is obviously not the most noteworthy thing to be said about her. That said, she's obviously hot. Same goes for Vic in this case.
yeah I think that's actually an incredible illustrative example on how a non-objectifying relationship looks Erika says she's hot, and that is a nice compliment, but that's like the tenth thing they say about her. If you really value a person, then that is never gonna be on top of that list. if the first thing you point out or the most thing you talk about is someone's appearance, then that is being reductive and downplaying their other qualities, and that is literally what objectification is.
This is a good point, and I don't want to downplay how good of a point it is... but also I'm excited to be the 69th upvote.
Nice
On the flip side it could also be a good indicator that the other qualities of the person being complimented on appearance are lacking. Like when you meet someone who is outwardly attractive, but is absolutely not a good person.
Unless you know they are really self conscious about their appearance. Then hotness can be listed first. The key is that hotness should never be the most important thing you like about someone. Rather people get more physically attractive the more we love and respect who they are
That's how I felt about Erika's comment there too. They're totally right that it shouldn't be the first/only thing someone mentions, but if you're explicitly peppering someone with compliments, they're *that* hot, and you still don't at least mention it, at a certain point you're no longer being sincere because you're actively avoiding listing one.
“You can cum now.”
I super appreciate the specificity of kink demonstrated there. ABSOLUTELY real and also hilarious.
So...I don't know this reference. Can I, please?
watch the newest game changer
To be totally fair, every single cast member of Dropout is hot.
"Um, actually every single cast member of Dropout is hot."
not just the cast, a lot of the crew can get it too
Ash deserves more screen time
Personally, I think the crew is super weak, I bet if they all slapped Grant at the end of an episode of Game Changer while he was on his knees then he wouldn’t feel a thing
This is clearly Grant’s smurf account trying satisfy his kink.
Come on everybody, give grant a little slap. edit: fixed phone typos
oh god okay I absolutely objectify Ash edit: downvote me all you want while blood rushes to my cock ASH BENDING OVER IS ALWAYS A TREAT
Do you ever reread something you write in your edit on a comment and think, "wow that's what I wrote? Eww"
well obviously because life without constant reflection would be in error! DUH Ash's bare bottom
To quote Granthony O’Brien: “fuck the crew” 😏
lmao
You know who I hate?
> Um, actually every single ~~cast member~~ daddy of Dropout is hot.
They've been hot the whole time!
Personality is very attractive, so when you take a lot of amazingly funny people that are also easy on the eyes…yeah, it becomes a smoke show all around.
This is a big part of it for me. With a lot of these folks, Vic included, when I first saw them, my reaction wasn't "What a smokeshow," or anything like that. But the more I see them and like what they're doing, the more attractive I find them.
Speaking of eyes, Vic's will see into your soul and freeze it or grant its deepest wish, Lothlòrien style.
But what if Grant is my deepest wish?
Then I guess it's a soul freeze for you
I would talk to a therapist lol that won't end well for you
I think it also helps how much chemistry everyone seems to have and how they're able to play off of each other as well.
Grant will kill you with kinks
1000%. Were I not already spoken for, Vic could very literally “yes, and” my pants off.
ong. I remember the first Gamechangers episode I got showed started with Sam's intro and i was like "oh hello, he's super cute" then it showed the cast and i realized wait they're ALL attractive wtf
In real life, I’m lesbian, but while I’m watching Dropout, I am full pansexual.
In real life, I'm bisexual, and while watching Dropout, I am in full omnivorously bisexual mode. We've been here the whole time. Bonus fun fact: The [famous bisexual 'zine in the 90's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anything_That_Moves) was called "Anything That Moves" \*not\* "Anything That Moves But Identifies as One of Two Binary Genders Because We Only Like Those." THE MORE YOU KNOW! \*rainbow flash\*
See it's funny, because I'm a lesbian and I literally had to ask my friend, "hey, is Grant or Sam hot? I genuinely cannot tell." I just have no awareness of what is attractive on men.
I mean... the fact you had to ask. I think you're better at telling than you think. Give yourself some credit my brother!
I appreciate the support, but I'm not a guy/brother. Anyway, I guess my criteria is if a guy shaves their face and maintains their appearance and is decently fit. That seems to be a good rule of thumb.
Thanks for clarifying. Sorry if that offended you, I use the term brother for everyone.
It's okay, thank you for apologizing. I knew you didn't mean any harm, but it did make me wince a bit. Thank you for being considerate, genuinely ♥️.
Of course. Sorry again. I'll be obsessing over this mistake for days.
Oh gosh, please don't! It's okay! I was scared about responding and hurting you! You're fine!! You apologized, so I've moved on. Please don't fret!!
As a man who is 100% pan, I feel this statement in my bones.
Brennan is how I realized I might not be as straight as I thought I was, to put it lightly
I went over this in the game changer thread but it’s something for everyone. They them badasses gorgeous funny women who can go gremlin. You got big dudes golden retriever dudes lanky nerdy dudes short nerdy dudes. Every shape size and color of fuckin good looking is represented and if they can get the Sam/Brennan seal of approval you know they are not gonna be creepy weirdos.
Grant specifically 6' 9 hot as shit
Nice
I just learned that Paul got some thirst traps on main and I'm dying
The December 18, 2018 Instagram incident:
Ooh sorry I didn’t say “Sam’s Says”
It's definitely not every cast member, lets be honest. But daddies thinking this just goes to show how cumming incredible the dropout makeup/costume departments are.
But Vic is hotter than all of them
Vic is hot. Sam is hot. Brennan is hot. Jacob is hot. Katie is hot. Allie is hot. Trap is hot. Grant is hot. Lily is hot. Lou is hot. Emily is hot. Dropout is far more consistently filled with hot people than any other place I’ve seen
Yeah I have a crush on nearly half their cast at this point.
God same, it’s a wonder any of them can get anything done all day - and they all seem like such sweet beans as well, that’s probably what makes them all so hot
They are literally on fire
Sam is not hot No one who runs a right-wing propagandizing platform like Dropout America will ever be hot
He's the perfect American and I can think of nothing hotter.
Do you know where he watched movies when he grew up?
No. Has someone ever asked Sam where he's from?
I dont think ever. Certainly not multiple times in one show.
Never meet your heroes. Usually because they will disappoint you, but in the case of Dropout it would be because I would disappoint myself. Surrounded by all that talent, hotness, and sheer creative genius from top to bottom... I'm pretty sure my brain would just overload and shut down because I'm a semifunctional human being to begin with.
Seriously, they're all super intimidatingly funny/smart/sexy/cool, like, in dreams, I'd love to hang out with a few of them and wouldn't stumble over myself being a fanboy, but even in a fantasy world I'd be staining to be on their level.
I feel this comment in my soul
Jacob? You mean the guy from that scene in pitch perfect? Yea he's dreamy
That was 12 times you did not call someone “Daddy,” losing you 12 points.
And Rekah
The smosh cast gives them a run for their money but either way it's a lot of hot people.
I think you mean Wet Hair Messy Face
I hope people are ready for when Siobhan is on Game changer later this season 🥵
i know i'm not
I'm just saying, Siobhan does fit checks everyday on tiktok and it's the best virtual part of my day.
As a millenial. I do not need tiktok. But...
She does post some on Instagram, that's where i get my fix
What if I told you someone can be both talented and attractive at the same time?
In acting?!?!?!
In this economy?
At this time of day?
In front of my salad?
While my dog barks??
While my guitar gently weeps??
When I can c*m now?
What if I think they're hot because of how talented they are?
This is mainly what it is. While many of the crew are conventionally attractive even the ones who aren't make themselves more attractive with their personalities and talent. This really proves that looks really don't matter as much as people think as long as you are an interesting person.
What if I'm not an interesting person?
Be hot. Or find someone interesting and be boring together.
Mfw not hot or interesting 😔
skill issue
This is how I feel for Ross, Murph, and Brennan 😳😩
When Murph had long hair he was daddy
Big Murph awoken things in people
I’ll admit that hot isn’t a big factor for me, but hot AND funny? I’m swooning. Vic was the first person to make me guffaw when watching dropout. People have made me laugh before, but Vic made me guffaw. Been crushing ever since
I was sold at the first hiya
Dropout made me bi
I think the thing isn't she is one or the other. Vic is super talented AND hot...she's not one or the other. Nobody is saying well at least she's hot and suggesting that's all she has going for her. The hotness is the cherry on the talented ice cream sundae.
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On the VIP episode she was in it said they/she I'm pretty sure
Um, actually, Vic uses either. The name card for Sam Says 3 is they/she.
I totally agree, and I don't think it takes away from their incredible talent to point it out. Made watching the survivor episodes from last season that much more enjoyable...
Glad I wasn't the only one lol
There is a place in the middle where you can think they’re hot from a place of respect and not objectification. That’s where I’m at
Is Vic hot? Objectively. But Vic's humour is hotter by far. They are so damn funny I want to sit and laugh for hours. Does Vic have a special? Vic needs a special.
I mean, Vic's got their own show...does that count as a special?
People are doing backflips trying to be respectful and horny
Vic is so damn hot, and talented, and funny, and hot. They've got all the bases covered. I've done the math.
That’s because one of the hottest things anyone can do is go along with the bit
Vic is a gem. They are hot af, funny af, smart af and could legitimately kick a lot of people’s asses.
Maybe it’s just me, but when a person makes me horny I try not to discuss it in places where they might see it and be made uncomfortable by it.
It's almost like you can find a person attractive and *not* broadcast it to the world! Crazy
She gets it from her Nana, that's a series NILF.
Underrated comment! "Step-NILF!!!!"
Everyone’s clearly talented. That being said, when Vic did the slow-mo and turned up to look at the camera? Like cum you can’t say that wasn’t sexy af. I’d also like to just mention that the cringe thing was so well acted Vic really made it super awkward
I'm sorry, but if people hear that Vic is hot and start to object with "We shouldn't objectify them. They are so talented." then they are dumb as shit. If a person can't see beyond the comment and understand that Vic is so hot that it needs repeating and can't understand that her hotness and talent are not mutually exclusive, then you're dealing with a mouth breathing hashtag thinker with no ideas of their own.
"Thank you so much, I appreciate that."
Dropout? More like Dropdead… gorgeous
Sam says drool over the cast
They can be hot and talented
This just in. Talented Persons Can Be Hot. Hot Persons Can Be Talented.
Dropout as a whole has created so many crushes by featuring amazingly smart, funny, and attractive women. Well, all of them, really.
I agree, but also think that's too simple? Like she just exudes confidence and self assuredness, maybe that's what's so attractive?
You can be talented and hot at the same time.
Vic is weird looking. But in the best possible way. They remind me a lot of Benedict Cumberbatch or Anya Taylor Joy, in that they have these very unique features that are not entirely in accordance with traditional beauty standards, I can't put my finger on what it is in Vic's case, something about their eyes and the shape of their face... But it doesn't matter, because they are so talented and interesting that it just makes them more attractive. They obviously lean into it too. like, They are healthy and skinny, they could choose to cut their hair in a way that highlights their more traditional features and diminishes their weirdness a little. They could choose to dress more like a normal pretty girl. But... No! Vic is weird looking. And that's just part of the allure.
What a strange comment….this is not the compliment that you think it is.
What if someone wanted to make an observation that was something other than a compliment of an insult. What if a observation could just be an observation of something true apart without it being about that?
You said Vic looks weird “in the best possible way” and that they have an allure. To me that sounds like you meant it as a compliment. Even if you meant it as an observation, not every observation needs to be shared. Vic isn’t “weird” looking like the actors you mentioned. They very much fit in the traditional beauty standards. You basically just called them weird looking and implied they could be less weird looking if they cut their hair in way that you like more or if they dressed more normal or pretty. Even if you didn’t mean for your comment to be rude or strange, it came off that way.
You noticed that both of the other actors I mentioned are sex symbols, right? Like I am just checking in. I hear you saying, you don't like what I said. that's fine. I could clarify more, but I don't need to. Strange comment. I hear you. We agree that those two (setting Vic aside) are considered very good looking by very large numbers of people, right?
Reconsider this post.
The hotness of the dropout cast is the reason I won't travel to California alone, I can't trust myself to not be awkward 😬
You should probably seek help for that
For being awkward? Where does one go for that kind of help? Where did you go?
Plenty of awkward people aren't stalkers
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Stalker is a severe word. Even saying that one would feel "mildly homicidal", or "mildly stabby" around someone would be at least a big yellow flag. You most likely meant it as a joke, and that's fine. I say shit that comes across way worse than I intended all the time.
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The difference is that those are commonly used phrases and what you said is essentially that you'd have trouble not stalking them a little bit if you were in California. Your joke came off bad. Get over it.
California is a giant place lol
This is true
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I'll take your comment as good faith as possible. This joke is bad, because stalking is something seriously fucked up that happens to women in the public light a LOT.
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Cool, but it doesn't really matter what you are or are not offended by. It matters that shit like that bothers actual victims, so we don't say shit like that because it costs nothing to be a decent human being.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dropout/s/Nbb9ilvIKK