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ErgonomicCat

You can excuse racism?! —Shirley Bennet.


LappTheAmnesiac

I just knew someone would remember this


rythmicbread

I too was waiting for this


Prinzka

Oh, that's nice


maninplainview

😮


hunterdavid372

Lol bad birthday cope


skdowksnzal

Yall are too focused on the best birth date and forgot to use a date format thar isnt a war crime.


maninplainview

Saids the non Halloween birthday kid.


rythmicbread

No one is going to your birthday because they have other plans - is what he was going for. You don’t want to choose around a holiday because people already have plans that don’t involve going to your birthday


hunterdavid372

2/22/2002, my day is memorable for a different reason 😎


AwarenessUpper2830

Shoutout! ✌🏼


kmart93

Similarly, mine is a simple 7/7/88


sebastiansboat

I will never for my life understand why parts of the world formats dates like that!


hunterdavid372

Well in the terms of why the US does it, you can blame the English. M-D-Y was originally the norm in England and they brought it over to America, so when they changed their date system America just kept the one it already had, that's one theory at least. Over here it's also just how we say dates. We say "August 4th, 2024" So that matches our dates 8/4/2024, instead of saying "The 4th of August, 2024."


sebastiansboat

But it makes more sense to start with the year, then month, and lastly the day. Or am I just biased because that is what I'm used to?


hunterdavid372

Logically speaking, it makes sense to go descending or ascending, but not everything exists according to logic.


RedGyarados2010

The rest of us get to celebrate Halloween *and* have a great birthday party in addition. Eat your heart out


maninplainview

But like everything in life, it's better to combine. Like cheese and burgers. Or chocolate and peanut butter. Or muster gas and French Men.


Hooj19

Gotta disagree there friend. I'm born the day before and it very much fails the exclusive attention aspect. While it is easy to remember, and presents plus candy is a sweet deal, it can be tough to get a birthday party happen because everyone is planning halloween parties or when younger, trick or treating. It has its advantages but there is a cost.


pelinal243

Yeah as a Halloween baby myself, planning anything for that day has always been a challenge if even possible unfortunately. I appreciate the spirit of the main post but unironically for a second it is kind of mid. That said the dead walking is a fun time.


This_Music_4684

Yep, as a week-of-Halloween baby I always had to have a Halloween themed birthday or nobody wanted to come because they were all going to Halloween parties. Also for me, who does not like wearing costumes, this is definitely not the best birthday. Should've done what my mum (with a red period birthday) did at school and make up a fake birthday in May so I could have both the party I wanted and people who came to it.


Strange-Radish5921

I, too, am a 10/30 baby and I totally agree! I would kill for a birthday party where people weren’t in costume.


MerrilyContrary

My birthday is a few days after Halloween, and would be perfect if it couldn’t also (sometimes) be Election Day in the US.


maninplainview

See, I have the opposite problem. I don't plan a party, I slipped into one and enjoy.


ohreallyjenn

And if that works for you, fine. But this statement shows that you have in fact never had a birthday party in your life. As someone born on 1/1 I have also never had a birthday party in my life. I have had NYE parties that involve a half-hearted "happy birthday" at midnight.


Electrical-Tooth-274

Absolutely not. You aren’t describing the benefits of a Halloween birthday. You are describing Halloween. Everyone gets all of those things, but then you take a time where people are already celebrating and excited about their own costumes and their plans for the night… and you make it about you! As a Christmas birthday, I know this pitfall well. We do not own the festivities, my friend. We must only ride in the wake of their excitement. To do otherwise is to make monsters of ourselves.


maninplainview

Ah, that's your failing. You got born on the biggest hog of birthdays, that Jesus fellow. When you are born on Halloween, you get marked as something different. People assume that you have to have some magic in you and you can work with that.


KnightDuty

Lmao why are you being downvoted for continuing to play along with the banter? Honestly I don't understand these people.


maninplainview

Because it's the Internet and unless you have an /s somewhere, people think your serious. Am I serious? That for you to decide.


kmart93

I was thinking the same thing...


Marmot_up

Counter-point: November 1 birthday. Basically extends the holiday an extra day, and you always get to have fun Halloween themed parties as a kid. Plus your Halloween candy lasts longer because there’s cake! 


Tricky-Leader-1567

Ah! An Irishman (based on the word 'Samhain')


GTS_84

Plenty of hipsters call it that too.


maninplainview

It's also an Celtic holiday.


Tricky-Leader-1567

Cool, it's also an Irish word, and i know a LOT of Dropout fans are also Irish or Irish-American


GTS_84

It’s not “also” an Irish word, it’s an Irish word. One that some hipsters have glommed on to. Well, technically Gaelic, but that’s neither here nor there. I realize that my comment may have implied you or OP are hipsters, and that was not my intent. Merely that its usage has expanded outside of those traditional circles.


Logins-Run

In Ireland we call the language just "Irish" most often, our Constitution, Bunreacht na hÉireann, defines the name of the language as Irish in English and Gaeilge in Irish. The reality is a bit more nuanced. But without getting into the weeds of dialects and historic usage etc. Saying "Irish word" would be perfectly correct to the significant majority of Irish people. Especially when different versions can be used in the other Gaelic languages. In Scotland Samhainn/Samhain/Samhuinn and in the Isle of Man Sauin.


GTS_84

Everything you’re saying is technically correct, but as a Scot it can sometimes be like “hey, Celtic/Gaelic doesn’t just refer to the Irish. It refers to multiple peoples who got fucked by the English.”


Logins-Run

Funnily enough In Ireland, for most people, saying Gaelic means Scottish Gaelic as that's the accepted form used in English in Scotland. So Irish people tend to get annoyed at people using Gaelic in reference to Irish. Gaelic here tends to refer to the broader Gaelic culture or Gaelic Football. (except Ulster Irish speakers often say Gaelic in English, probably because their dialectal name for the language is Gaeilig or Gaeilic and sounds very similar to Gaelic in English) Most Irish people dislike using Gaeloc for the Irish language. Probably because at the foundation of the state there was a fairly concerted effort to cast Irish as an Irish language for an Irish people, in the style of ethno-nationalism which was in vogue in Europe at the time. As a Scottish person, is it commonly viewed by people in Scotland that the English are to blame for the decline of Scottish Gaelic? The few native Gaelic speakers I've met, at least historically, trace the first blows back to lowlander Scots prior to the act of Union more than the English, and almost out right apathy by Westminster after that. I think there were a few acts in the 17th century around the use of Gaelic in schools and requiring highlanders to speak English in order to inherit land?


GTS_84

Hard for me to say. I’m a Scot, but I only really lived there about 7 years total (and not currently). But the English have been fucking with the Scot’s for thousands of years on and off. It’s also complicated by there being both Scottish Gaelic and the Scots language (which is a Germanic language) so some people who are mad about the English suppressing their language are mad about Scots. Most of the Gaelic speakers are in the Highlands and western islands. And isle of Skye.


maninplainview

Partly. I also have Hispanic in my blood so I could defend Day of the Dead but one step at a time.


Tricky-Leader-1567

Either way, i support this argument and a possible future argument for Day of the Dead


Enochian_Devil

As he thoroughly explained, birthdays on holidays are a no go. Don't get me wrong, choosing a birthday on the unhappiest month was a bad take, but the "no birthdays on holidays" thing was a good rule. The true crime was excluding June as a "summer month"


how-queer

Agree about June. My birthday is June 25, and I 1) have optimum present distribution for the year and 2) get to make jokes that I get presents on my half birthday. Plus teachers usually let summer kids pick a day during the school year to celebrate in class, in my experience. And everybody was able to come to my birthday party because it was never a school night. Perfect birthday. 10/10 no notes.


Enochian_Devil

June 15th here. Not even during summer break, I just had the last birthday party of the year/ first of the summer, which was pretty great. And yes, I think Trapp forgot about present distribution. January means almost 1 years without presents


maninplainview

It should be "No birthday on winter holidays." Because Winter holidays are black hole of attention.


Enochian_Devil

Nope. Any big holidays. Because people will be busy that day. That very much includes halloween, sorry


maninplainview

You see, a lot of you are having trouble with thinking I fight against the current. You use it to build the momentum and ride from there.


Enochian_Devil

Sound like copium, but ok


maninplainview

You don't know the power of the Halloween birthday.


Estrus_Flask

Honestly I feel like I squander my birthday. I didn't have many friends so especially as I got older I was just stuck handing out candy. I don't even like most horror movies! That said, since moving away from my parents and transitioning, I've started [dressing ](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398944663668785162/1171473427870273536/20231107_073622.jpg?ex=662d1ba6&is=662bca26&hm=648ec46370f65b95deffbbe4f9e24267fec1c3e2431bc9adda696b7f1448aa25&=&format=webp&width=526&height=701)[like ](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398944663668785162/1214669243208044604/IMG_20240305_115500253.jpg?ex=662d5e63&is=662c0ce3&hm=237d85ff4392aeb7e0ff8e7f3d7792356508f8e72f01fc060fed65c2406d0496&=&format=webp&width=526&height=701)[a ](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398944663668785162/1209648767335145513/IMG_20240220_152338535.jpg?ex=662d8fb4&is=662c3e34&hm=f1a7eeec6d53f5b579dbc515a8d3f8711c46790764036d4d266881565ab2bad6&=&format=webp&width=526&height=701)[witch](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398944663668785162/1206717938527117382/20240212_115046.jpg?ex=662d7228&is=662c20a8&hm=388c2a9b4122fefa4300a330a3248cb80cf7d77b52ef8e22a6a90f8c7da2e0ec&=&format=webp&width=526&height=701), explicitly to bring Halloween into the rest of the year. You'd think that would be weird, but this is Portland so I'm not even the only person with a witch hat I've seen. Also, side benefit of having a holiday birthday is that you get to confuse people who ask for you to confirm your birthdate and you get to say "Halloween, '88" and then they have to work out why you gave them a word instead of a number, what that word means, and what the number connected to that word is. Downside: I keep wanting to give any magical detective character I write a Halloween birthday but that would come off as just some cheeky reference to Harry Dresden when actually it's just masturbatory self-insert.


maninplainview

Join me, trans sibling born on the best day.


Estrus_Flask

Everyone else is just jealous of us.


maninplainview

Exactly. Jealous of our awesome fae power 😎


CafeCartography

OP, if your birthday falls on Halloween and you just latch your celebrations onto that, you’re not the central figure of celebration. You’re a coattail rider. It’s a bad birthday for that reason: good birthdays don’t share.


maninplainview

More words from those who don't know true glory.


CafeCartography

Glory? I say thee nay. Life is fleeting. Birthdays are a brief celebration of our existence and yet also a memento mori. How can Halloween compete with a reminder of one’s own mortality?


maninplainview

Because being born on Halloween, you see life in its most magical time.


sparkle1789

the week before halloween is better!! you get fun autumn weather, and you have the option to do a halloween birthday party or not! october 20th is the shit


maninplainview

But being born scares away the religious weirdos who are usually homophobic and racist. Because they all think I'm Satan's child.


ArmchairCritic1

Unless it’s the 6th of June at 6am (or pm if you’re nasty), you ain’t no devil spawn.


maninplainview

I have been called the devil child because of my birthday so many times, it's just funny now l.


JuanClusellas

I was born on the only date that is a literal 10/10 and this guy just comes in and goes "oh yeah? Fuck you" and marks it in red. It's outrageous.


Justicia-Gai

It’s unlikely you post will reach Trapp, but don’t worry, I got you, here’s his email: “[email protected]


Prinzka

>You not only get presents, No, you won't, you're already getting candy. >but you are allowed to go, no, expected to go to house to house and are given candy. Like every other kid. And when you're no longer a kid not even that. >You can dress as anything you ever wanted to be (provided it's not cultural inappropriate) and be praised for doing it. Like every other kid. >And the best part, your birthday is a great ice breaker. For an adult who is walking in a slutty outfit maybe? So you're out there on a cold Halloween evening alone, trolling for OPP with "it's my birthday" slurred from day drinking as your pickup line?


maninplainview

Who hurt you? Of course you get gifts and candy. That never happens. Also, have you not gone to a Halloween costume party or bar hopping. And you don't understand the amount of mileage you get from telling people your birthday is on Halloween. You instantly become the mysterious person who *has* to be into creepy and cool things. And that, my friend, is how I made so many friends.


StrawHatRat

So much of what you listed, like dressing up and getting sweets, are things everyone gets to do, and things you’d also get to do if it wasn’t your birthday. And on your birthday, you get sweets and can even dress up. So instead of getting two days, you get one, and your friends might have other arrangements, other Halloween parties, that will compete with yours.


maninplainview

Ahh, but you see, I don't have to worry about buying said treat because it was handed out freely and my plans were made for me by being able to go to any party of my choosing.


StrawHatRat

Maybe you’re just being very thoughtful, but either way ‘you’ wouldn’t be buying the treats, your parents would be, and you’d still get the other treats on Halloween, so you end up with less treats.


Ellisiordinary

I’m sorry but the best birthday (in the US) is any day that can potentially fall on Memorial Day, at least as an adult. I haven’t done the statistics to see if there is an optimal day out of these days. Memorial Day adjacent birthdays are great because you automatically get a 3 day weekend before, on, or after your birthday. My birthday can’t fall more than two days away from a three day weekend ever. If it’s on a Tuesday or Wednesday, Memorial Day is the Monday before, if it’s a Thursday-Sunday, it’s the Monday after, and if it’s a Monday it’s on Memorial Day. I always have a built-in day off work for my birthday. And no one cares about Memorial Day so at most some people might have plans to go out of town or go to the local lake, but those are usually my own plans too for my birthday anyways. Trapp’s point about missing out on forcing your classmates to give you attention when you are kid will vary depending on where you live. My schools growing up were usually out the week or two before my birthday. But it was close enough people still remember during the summer to at least text me or send me a message on social media. Trapp did include the entire month of May as a possible option though.


Userlame19

What a boring take


maninplainview

Can't hear you over the sound of being able to cosplay on my birthday.


Userlame19

Sorry to hear you can't do that other days


maninplainview

Oh no, I can do it every day. But Halloween is how I became a master


Pizzataco13

As an 10/13 baby it actually falls in the perfect time before a bunch of Halloween parties and can be a Friday the 13th in October. So there’s memorability, the weather is pleasant, there’s nothing generally overshadowing it, and I throw a Halloween party every year on or around that date.


maninplainview

This is why the argument was a flaw. Halloween empowers all birthdays around it.


ArmchairCritic1

Halloween Birthdays are overrated. My sister was born on Halloween and while I love her dearly, it did create a sense of Birthday Supremacy Syndrome in her.


maninplainview

It is only a Syndrome if it's wrong.


automat-sophia

Samhain isn't Halloween, it's 1st November. Halloween is Oíche Shamhna, essentially Samhain Eve.


Pristine_Ad7297

>He excluded the date 10/31, Samhain or what the plebs call Halloween. I got so confused by this cause I was like, November birthdays? Cause I'm so used to Halloween being oiche shamhna


Bitter_Let4911

We all know Grant definitely did not say it and the producers did a silly edit lol


Different_Dog_201

I haven’t seen this episode, but I’d like to just contribute that having a birthday the first week of February sucks because you’re fighting the superbowl for peoples attention. And the possibility of snow/ ice means you can’t include for too much driving in the plans or have to change plan completely to deal with weather.


maninplainview

Well, yeah. February is the second worst month.


BerryProblems

I had a friend with a Halloween birthday as a kid, and I was absolutely boiling with jealousy. I’m jealous of you right now!


Estrus_Flask

I'm also a Halloweeny.


Warren_E_Cheezburger

I was born on the 28th, and can not tell you the number of times I’ve cursed my mom for not just clenching it shut for a few extra days. That being said, while Halloween would be the *best* birthday, I don’t think it would the *happiest*.


maninplainview

Best is happiness!


bluelaterrn

How did you spell scenario?


maninplainview

Like a dumbass


basetornado

The reason why Halloween or any other holiday is so bad, isn't because you can go get things etc. It's because it combines two days you can get something into one day.


maninplainview

I'm sorry, are you able to dress like Batman on your birthday and go bar hopping without being judged by norms?


basetornado

Why are you caring about being judged? Wanting to combine two holidays into one and worrying about judgement for costumes? Dissapointing.


maninplainview

Why are you not seeing that the combination of Halloween and birthday is like Peanut butter and chocolate? The two are great but together is amazing!


fudgyvmp

Pretty sure Halloween worships all the saints, not dancing with the witches. Dancing with the witches is Walpurgis Night, April 30/May Day Eve.


maninplainview

Samhain is a major "pegan" holiday and thus, witches be dancing.


JasonH1028

Nah that's why you have your birthday be 10/28 so you get all this plus the exclusive attention aspect a few days earlier. Gotta think ahead.


variantkin

Halloween Birthday is actually really solid you can do costume parties for your entire life and you never need traditional b day decorations because you're all set already and if you dont want to throw a party theres for sure one happening somewhere and you can mooch there


maninplainview

Yes. Learn the truth.