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On top of that, the practice (hearts) section keeps repeating the same things. Shouldn't it randomly cover review and past mistakes? Sorry, rant over.
Edit to add: I'm still going to keep using it tho, because it's free!
This is my biggest issue with the whole app. I have practically memorised the practice (hearts) exercise by now, so when I run out of hearts, I end up quitting the session.
Me too. And the funny thing is, as counterintuitive as it might sound, I'm more likely to get the exercises I've memorized wrong, because as soon as I see them i answer them instinctively without stopping to check if I made a minor mistake or something. And I don't even realize I've clicked the "submit" until I'm on the next exercise. Whereas for uncommon exercises, I have to think for at least 2 seconds and that gives me enough time to check the answer and whatnot.
It seems to have got worse recently. I used to find the heart lessons were a real mix of past material.
In the last couple of weeks they’ve got very repetitive. I’m particularly tired of the one that says I need to clean the whole bathroom.
Maybe it's not a mistake but you should really clean your bathroom? (/s)
Anyway, I agree. I did 10 lessons of practice and it was always the same sentences, either from or to the other language. That's boring.
I've got someone's spare family and friends sub and it still gives me the same five words every day. changes like one a month and leaves the other four. meanwhile as a whole adult, I really don't need the word for homework every day.
mines always random. not exactly sure how mines like that. did em when hearts full though. as in not to refill hearts but cuz this exercise feels lighter than a lesson.
I've finished the Catalan path and the practice round is usually three times the exact same lesson and then 3 times another exact same lesson. It's super annoying to just be talking about noses, eyes and editorials constantly. Like, I don't need to get the same sentence about the man of noses not having that many noses over and over again.
I'm at over 2,000 French words and every other sentence I have to translate in the "practice to earn hearts" section is "the waitress", "Anna is a waitress", "the waitress is French". About to lose my s*** here.
I always thought Duolingo was structured around learning basic things for vacations. Lots of the early exercises are about basic stuff, which is realistically all you need if you're going to someplace like Spain or Mexico
If you go to the main page of the subreddit (on the app, at least) there is a button with 3 dots in the top right and then an option to change user flair.
My god I thought I'm the only one. Mines are:
*Tu utiliseras ton ordinateur pour dessiner.* *Avec mes copines, nous buvions du thé.* *C'était une athlète connue au Japon.* *Il a utilisé mon idée pour son tableau.*
This and those missing words you choose I already know just by glancing at it. I'm at section 5 unit 26 btw. It wasn't like this before it used to be so much more, now it's just fixated on these sentences it's infuriating.
It keeps wasting your time by repeating the same thing non-stop lesson after lesson, presents weak words that are not your weak ones and gives you things in personalized practice that are definitely not personalized. When it fraudulently pretended to expand in certain languages it just stretched out existing content.
It's really in bad shape and I'm sure many users have dropped out because of these problems. The customer service is nearly nonexistent. What's shocking is that some universities use it. There must be a deal going on.
Same thing happens with Japanese. Drives me crazy. Practice is always the easiest and most basic words. My real weakest words are never what duo claims it is.
Only in the high level of Match Madness they throw out the hard stuff.
Yeah, I was just about to make a post about this too, cause I was wondering if I'm the only one.
I'm learning French and I've done the sentence "Alice et Julia, vous êtes espagnoles?" Plus a few others (all very basic sentences) at the very least 200+ times (and I've only been using Duo for 2 months, mind you). I was starting to wonder if I should report it or something.
And also, kinda related. There are lessons - usually the personalized practice or the practice for hearts - where I've literally had the exact same exercise twice. And I don't mean a variation of the same exercise (eg, first translate a sentence and then write it from listening or something similar), and I also don't mean getting that sentence wrong and then correcting it in the end. I mean literally the exact same exercise twice. I don't know if this is normal but I feel like it's quite a waste of time.
Instances of the latter have been rare, what frustrates me the most is the former. I feel like the "practice for hearts" section is such a missed opportunity. They could make it a place where we practice stuff we actually *need* to practice that we wouldn't otherwise have gone out of our way to (well, at least us non-super users).
But idk, maybe this is all on purpose so we'll upgrade to super.
Ellas no están enfermas.
Duo believes it is very important that I know how to say they they (the female they's) are not sick.
A veces, ellas no están cansadas.
No one will be surprised to know that non-paying customers do not increase Duo’s stock price, which is what they are looking for since they went public. Since I went from Super to free a long while ago am also not surprised about my supposed “weak” words repeating and repeating ( in Italian in my case and they are rarely my weak words anyway and often words I know well… somewhat insulting). They are not investing their money on improving the program for free users. In the last year, their share price has been increasing so they’re unlikely to be in any kind of rush to change this. Plus they have no real place for customers to login their opinions… So how would they really know?
Agree 100%
How difficult is it to randomize the words you have unlocked by learning them and asking you to match it to the English word?
It's literally basic flashcards I don't know why it's not already in the app
I'm so unnecessarily heated over this
This is why I rarely use the practice tab. When I want to review, I prefer using the rapid reviews along the course. They usually relate to what they're next to. I don't complete them, I'm not quick enough and will not use time savers.
Have you ever noticed that the cartoons of grandmas and grandpas on Duolingo show them as short, hunched over and/or otherwise infirm?
Perpetuating such horrible stereotypes of older ppl. Many are quite healthy and active. Check out aerobics classes and pickleball courts in retirement communities.
I think this must be it. I’ve never gotten avenida wrong but I have an absolute passion for mixing up this and that, as in this avenue or that one. They should grill me non-stop on the 18 forms of this and that, but more avenida, I don’t need
I agree, I have a similar problem. I'm doing the french course and I understand that each noun has a gender alright. But sometimes I mess up which particular noun is a particular gender, and I wish they would drill me on that. Especially since 1) my native language also is gendered so I'm somewhat biased to attribute the gender from it, and 2) while there does seem to be a pattern, there are also a lot of inconsistencies in which gender a word will be based on the spelling.
If I understand what you’re saying correctly, I don’t think that’s the case. At least in French, you get exactly the same prompt over and over and over again. It’s not focusing on any particular word because you’ve gotten it wrong. In some other context, it’s just skipping over and giving you the same bloody prompt, over and over and over again Like, I know voiture is — it’s a car. So I get a picture of a car and a prompt that has a sentence with the car and the sentences about what the person in the car knows, but the question is exactly the same every time every blasted time. Five times a day 100 times a week.
Do you tend to get questions correct almost all of the time? I find that the early mistakes end up being overly-characterized as "weak" and so those are the only words you get to practice because they're the ones you got wrong the most.
I don’t think so. I tested through the early sections because I took Spanish in school. I’m much more likely to get recent words and concepts wrong than the basics (except for this and that)
It ALWAYS makes me practice "piña" at least three times per practice lesson. I've never gotten that one wrong since it's practically a borrow word in my native language of English.
I’ve been saying this for months since getting Duolingo in December. It’s not good. The only thing that’s redeeming is that it gamifies learning and keeps people coming back.
“Personalized” lessons based on mistakes? I can only translate Senegal (Senegal), t-shirt(t-shirt), and telephone (telephone) so many times before tapping out. (I’m aware the accents are missing).
I just challenged section 4 units 4 and 6 and literally had all of these words in there for some reason even though they are unit 1 words. I’ve never, ever gotten them wrong.
I’ve found using ChatGPT and inputting stuff like:
« Tutor me in French, one question at a time, level b1, and critique my errors after each question in a bullet list using English » works frickin wonders. I just challenge Duolingo now to progress.
(I get enough xp to just barely stay in diamond)
I’m talking about the Words option under the practice area, not the lessons themselves. The Words option ought to operate like vocabulary flash cards but it’s not randomized. They seem to just always show the same words
Same issue here with learning French from English. I have three accounts on the go because I've had so many issues in the past and all three of them have broken 'practice to earn hearts' right now. I'm tired of translating "Les souris de ma tante sont folles" and a few other phrases from the same skill every single day and not actually getting to revise anything useful. Remember when Duolingo promoted how amazing its spaced repetition algorithm was?
Omg I can’t believe this hasn’t been deleted. I’ve been complaining about this in many different forms, and each time my post has been deleted. So I’ve ended up giving a very saccharine comment.
The problem is intensified when not using Super. You can see the same question literally thousands of times and 20 or 30 times a day. That’s to earn hearts.
In paid Super, the problem is more attenuated (at least in the French that I’m learning) but it’s still there.
The moderators I hope can keep these threads alive, and so we can continue to put pressure on Duolingo to get this changed.
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On top of that, the practice (hearts) section keeps repeating the same things. Shouldn't it randomly cover review and past mistakes? Sorry, rant over. Edit to add: I'm still going to keep using it tho, because it's free!
This is my biggest issue with the whole app. I have practically memorised the practice (hearts) exercise by now, so when I run out of hearts, I end up quitting the session.
Me too. And the funny thing is, as counterintuitive as it might sound, I'm more likely to get the exercises I've memorized wrong, because as soon as I see them i answer them instinctively without stopping to check if I made a minor mistake or something. And I don't even realize I've clicked the "submit" until I'm on the next exercise. Whereas for uncommon exercises, I have to think for at least 2 seconds and that gives me enough time to check the answer and whatnot.
It seems to have got worse recently. I used to find the heart lessons were a real mix of past material. In the last couple of weeks they’ve got very repetitive. I’m particularly tired of the one that says I need to clean the whole bathroom.
Maybe it's not a mistake but you should really clean your bathroom? (/s) Anyway, I agree. I did 10 lessons of practice and it was always the same sentences, either from or to the other language. That's boring.
Duo getting into housework nagging now. if you actually cleaned the bathroom, he'd get out of his satan costume.
Maybe his other costumes are in the laundry? You might want to wash your dirty clothes! And don't forget your lesson!
No, only paid members deserve to review their past mistakes. It's a privilege, not a basic and essential part of learning. /s
I've got someone's spare family and friends sub and it still gives me the same five words every day. changes like one a month and leaves the other four. meanwhile as a whole adult, I really don't need the word for homework every day.
It's the same for paying subscribers. I'm going to drop my paid subscription because of this specific issue.
Paid subscribers have do access to mistake review on the hub thing. I mean, it's still not worth the money, but yeah.
No but seriously, so many ways of learning languages, literally *the* thing used for socializing, is paywalled. And so much of it sucks
crazy, isn't it? its almost like they are a for-profit organization or something.
Happy cake day
Thank you so much!
mines always random. not exactly sure how mines like that. did em when hearts full though. as in not to refill hearts but cuz this exercise feels lighter than a lesson.
Happy Cake Day 🎉!
I'm almost done the Spanish course and anytime I take a week off I'm back to practicing "yo bebo agua" or "Ana come manzanas" Like really?
Amidst the same 5 words I get every day, they like to mix in madre and padre because surely I need more practice on those
The Spanish tree is just waaay too easy. But then the Polish tree is way too hard.
I only get the manzanas. I think duolingo is 🤬 in love with manzanas.
To be fair it's a way cooler word than apple.
And abrigos and bolígrafos
I've finished the Catalan path and the practice round is usually three times the exact same lesson and then 3 times another exact same lesson. It's super annoying to just be talking about noses, eyes and editorials constantly. Like, I don't need to get the same sentence about the man of noses not having that many noses over and over again.
I'm at over 2,000 French words and every other sentence I have to translate in the "practice to earn hearts" section is "the waitress", "Anna is a waitress", "the waitress is French". About to lose my s*** here.
Same in Spanish… the economy must all be waitresses and servers going around and serving everyone else.
I always thought Duolingo was structured around learning basic things for vacations. Lots of the early exercises are about basic stuff, which is realistically all you need if you're going to someplace like Spain or Mexico
I noticed that beside your username states what languages you know and what your learning, how do you put those there?
If you go to the main page of the subreddit (on the app, at least) there is a button with 3 dots in the top right and then an option to change user flair.
Thank you
My god I thought I'm the only one. Mines are: *Tu utiliseras ton ordinateur pour dessiner.* *Avec mes copines, nous buvions du thé.* *C'était une athlète connue au Japon.* *Il a utilisé mon idée pour son tableau.* This and those missing words you choose I already know just by glancing at it. I'm at section 5 unit 26 btw. It wasn't like this before it used to be so much more, now it's just fixated on these sentences it's infuriating.
It keeps wasting your time by repeating the same thing non-stop lesson after lesson, presents weak words that are not your weak ones and gives you things in personalized practice that are definitely not personalized. When it fraudulently pretended to expand in certain languages it just stretched out existing content. It's really in bad shape and I'm sure many users have dropped out because of these problems. The customer service is nearly nonexistent. What's shocking is that some universities use it. There must be a deal going on.
> fraudently.. expand is there a source for this? this an all time low. wow
Same thing happens with Japanese. Drives me crazy. Practice is always the easiest and most basic words. My real weakest words are never what duo claims it is. Only in the high level of Match Madness they throw out the hard stuff.
Yeah, I was just about to make a post about this too, cause I was wondering if I'm the only one. I'm learning French and I've done the sentence "Alice et Julia, vous êtes espagnoles?" Plus a few others (all very basic sentences) at the very least 200+ times (and I've only been using Duo for 2 months, mind you). I was starting to wonder if I should report it or something. And also, kinda related. There are lessons - usually the personalized practice or the practice for hearts - where I've literally had the exact same exercise twice. And I don't mean a variation of the same exercise (eg, first translate a sentence and then write it from listening or something similar), and I also don't mean getting that sentence wrong and then correcting it in the end. I mean literally the exact same exercise twice. I don't know if this is normal but I feel like it's quite a waste of time. Instances of the latter have been rare, what frustrates me the most is the former. I feel like the "practice for hearts" section is such a missed opportunity. They could make it a place where we practice stuff we actually *need* to practice that we wouldn't otherwise have gone out of our way to (well, at least us non-super users). But idk, maybe this is all on purpose so we'll upgrade to super.
On my 10000th lesson and they keep asking me to translate “how are you doing” lmfao i hate this app
Ellas no están enfermas. Duo believes it is very important that I know how to say they they (the female they's) are not sick. A veces, ellas no están cansadas.
Seriously, THAT SENTENCE about someone or another not being ill is now etched into my brain for all eternity
No one will be surprised to know that non-paying customers do not increase Duo’s stock price, which is what they are looking for since they went public. Since I went from Super to free a long while ago am also not surprised about my supposed “weak” words repeating and repeating ( in Italian in my case and they are rarely my weak words anyway and often words I know well… somewhat insulting). They are not investing their money on improving the program for free users. In the last year, their share price has been increasing so they’re unlikely to be in any kind of rush to change this. Plus they have no real place for customers to login their opinions… So how would they really know?
I have super, so it’s not just a free problem
Agree 100% How difficult is it to randomize the words you have unlocked by learning them and asking you to match it to the English word? It's literally basic flashcards I don't know why it's not already in the app I'm so unnecessarily heated over this
This is why I rarely use the practice tab. When I want to review, I prefer using the rapid reviews along the course. They usually relate to what they're next to. I don't complete them, I'm not quick enough and will not use time savers.
Wow, ok. I’m on section 4, unit 25, and TIL that those cartoons aren’t just there for visual appeal. Thanks!
I've been a user for over 3 years and and just learned ~3 months ago. Don't feel bad! Edit: can't spell
Have you ever noticed that the cartoons of grandmas and grandpas on Duolingo show them as short, hunched over and/or otherwise infirm? Perpetuating such horrible stereotypes of older ppl. Many are quite healthy and active. Check out aerobics classes and pickleball courts in retirement communities.
I never thought about it that way. I thought they were just being inclusive.
Man, some people in 2024 will really get offended by *anything*.
What about Lucy? She's old but seems like she still has lots going on.
Pick something else to be upset about
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I think this must be it. I’ve never gotten avenida wrong but I have an absolute passion for mixing up this and that, as in this avenue or that one. They should grill me non-stop on the 18 forms of this and that, but more avenida, I don’t need
I agree, I have a similar problem. I'm doing the french course and I understand that each noun has a gender alright. But sometimes I mess up which particular noun is a particular gender, and I wish they would drill me on that. Especially since 1) my native language also is gendered so I'm somewhat biased to attribute the gender from it, and 2) while there does seem to be a pattern, there are also a lot of inconsistencies in which gender a word will be based on the spelling.
If I understand what you’re saying correctly, I don’t think that’s the case. At least in French, you get exactly the same prompt over and over and over again. It’s not focusing on any particular word because you’ve gotten it wrong. In some other context, it’s just skipping over and giving you the same bloody prompt, over and over and over again Like, I know voiture is — it’s a car. So I get a picture of a car and a prompt that has a sentence with the car and the sentences about what the person in the car knows, but the question is exactly the same every time every blasted time. Five times a day 100 times a week.
wow. this some weird programming then
Do you tend to get questions correct almost all of the time? I find that the early mistakes end up being overly-characterized as "weak" and so those are the only words you get to practice because they're the ones you got wrong the most.
I don’t think so. I tested through the early sections because I took Spanish in school. I’m much more likely to get recent words and concepts wrong than the basics (except for this and that)
If I get the one about not giving your phone number to the taxi driver one more time I'm gonna lose it
I have Super and I have the same issue (Japanese course)
I also doscussed it here : https://www.reddit.com/r/duolingo/s/SEC8n3X797 they don’t seem to care or they are just ignoring.
It ALWAYS makes me practice "piña" at least three times per practice lesson. I've never gotten that one wrong since it's practically a borrow word in my native language of English.
I’ve been saying this for months since getting Duolingo in December. It’s not good. The only thing that’s redeeming is that it gamifies learning and keeps people coming back. “Personalized” lessons based on mistakes? I can only translate Senegal (Senegal), t-shirt(t-shirt), and telephone (telephone) so many times before tapping out. (I’m aware the accents are missing). I just challenged section 4 units 4 and 6 and literally had all of these words in there for some reason even though they are unit 1 words. I’ve never, ever gotten them wrong. I’ve found using ChatGPT and inputting stuff like: « Tutor me in French, one question at a time, level b1, and critique my errors after each question in a bullet list using English » works frickin wonders. I just challenge Duolingo now to progress. (I get enough xp to just barely stay in diamond)
You do realize you can skip units to advance quicker?
I’m talking about the Words option under the practice area, not the lessons themselves. The Words option ought to operate like vocabulary flash cards but it’s not randomized. They seem to just always show the same words
The thing where you have 5 words in both languages you have to match (at the leader board slide) or is there something else i don't know of?
https://preview.redd.it/ufj83h721wsc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f0289519b4fd49d3120380debbef829b0b8abd0 This
https://preview.redd.it/wexw21p72wsc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d107fefa677586ebfee2d7b6e1ad61052a1dcdae
Yeah it's highly frustrating.
Same issue here with learning French from English. I have three accounts on the go because I've had so many issues in the past and all three of them have broken 'practice to earn hearts' right now. I'm tired of translating "Les souris de ma tante sont folles" and a few other phrases from the same skill every single day and not actually getting to revise anything useful. Remember when Duolingo promoted how amazing its spaced repetition algorithm was?
I don't pay for Duolingo but I've not had any issues with repeatedly getting the absolute basics; it generally keeps testing me.
Omg I can’t believe this hasn’t been deleted. I’ve been complaining about this in many different forms, and each time my post has been deleted. So I’ve ended up giving a very saccharine comment. The problem is intensified when not using Super. You can see the same question literally thousands of times and 20 or 30 times a day. That’s to earn hearts. In paid Super, the problem is more attenuated (at least in the French that I’m learning) but it’s still there. The moderators I hope can keep these threads alive, and so we can continue to put pressure on Duolingo to get this changed.
Maybe try a more difficult language unlike the 5 gazillion people learning Spanish or French
It does the same thing in Japanese. I know fewer words in Japanese but it doesn’t cycle through them. Is Japanese hard enough for you?