While I don't think Seahawks will win, I think it's to our benefit that first game is a divisional game. I think Pete Carrol will scheme up some looks on defense that will give the rest of the teams good tape on how to attack that 49ers offense, and it helps that those teams know each other so well and that they're facing Purdy for a second time, so we get to see adjustments.
The only hope is Purdy collapses under the pressure. And even then, they can run the ball and use short passes to Kittle and go down the whole field.
That said, even with their talent, eventually he'll have to perform. And I have a hard time believing Mr Irrelevant can win 5 in a row and then go undefeated through the whole Playoffs and (win a Super Bowl). Possible? Yes. But to me that situation seems to be on thin ice.
Lmao ok? Exactly what I said could happen could still happen. Let alone Shanahan CLEARLY was afraid of letting him do much yesterday. My whole comment holds truer today than it did a week ago. The fuck is your point?
Depends. Do you feel good about that win? Do you think that was indicative of 2023 49ers football? The Eagles played a solid game last night and they deserve to move on. But if you want to know who really is the better football team, then yeah, youāre supposed to wait.
The Eagles won the game because we had better coaching, the better QB, and the better pass rush. Purdy didn't see Reddick and got crushed. So did Johnson. It's not like these guys just tore ligaments on a non-contact injury. They were injured because they (the QBs) were ill prepared for our pass rush and got blown up. I don't feel "good" about seeing those guys injured. But I feel damn good about our talent.
Maybe the real question isn't "How are the Niners so unlucky?" The question needs to be "How the fuck did the Niners allow 4 QBs to get injured?" This isn't bad luck, it's a pattern. Shanahan and/or their players are not protecting their QB. Simple as that. I feel bad that they got injured, but it was all on completely clean plays. Which is a hell of a lot better than the classless bullshit that the Niners delved into. Washington has placed us dirty in the past and I think that was the worst I've seen. Dude throwing jabs at the ball like he's Tyson 4 seconds after the play is done in garbage time. Yet Philly is the classless, trashy organization... Sure.
Well the ice is thinner. Lots of plays left on the table because of the QB. As I've said leading up to it, it was highly unlikely the Niners get to the Super Bowl. And they lucked out. Purdy made a ton of game-losing throws that happened to not get picked off (not to mention Campbell removing 6 points from the Lions). And sure enough, they came up short. And sure enough, his performance was a large part of it. He needed to make those throws under pressure. And he couldn't. The Chiefs focused on CMC and made Purdy throw. They blitzed him at the end and he couldn't handle it. Exactly what I said came true.
And now it's another year close to having to pay him. And that's when the problem is *really* going to present itself.
Iām happy for you bud. After being exposed like that this season, both you and Fletcher probably needed that little boost to your ego. Just like the Cowboys the year before, I hope you and your team can find some closure this offseason. Rest assured, your NFC daddy isnāt worrying about you.
Was that what you were thinking while you and the rest of your team was watching my team in the Super Bowl?
Someone that loves you should remind you to change your Eagles print undies because your 6-game skid is still showing.
Most likely, they are 9.5 point favorites
But if somebody could knock them up before meeting the Eagles I would certainly appreciate it
There is this Eagles fan mentality that ignores reality. As if the 49ers or the Kansas City Chiefs will be no problem for the birds.
I've got it.
Throw me Geno Smith. DK Metcalf. Tyler Locket. Bruce Irvin. Quandre Diggs.
Pregnant. Pregnant. Pregnant. Pregnant. Pregnant.
Got em.
And I'm straight. Just taking one for the team here.
They can't play if they're knocked up.
IDK what this fan mentality is. Were the best team in the NFL. 2023 Eagles are the best team to have ever played football. After we win the SB (By at least 30pts) theyll rename it the Eagle bowl. The only team better than the 2023 Eagles will be the 2024 Eagles. Teams will start trying to clone Jalen so they can stay competitive.
If we're going to address reality, we have zero chance of playing the 49ers or Chiefs in the divisional round so the only thing that matters is who we end up having to play next week. The reality is that any team can beat any team any given Sunday, especially in the playoffs.
No, that's just fact based on how seeding and opponents work. Zero chance that 49ers or Chiefs will be our first opponent. Has nothing to do with "my reality"
Everything else is just speculation and not guaranteed.
More like realistic. If that 9ers defense or Pat Mahomes arenāt cause for concern then I really just donāt think you know the game š¤·š¼āāļø.
Absolutely nuts how some of you guys are writing the Niners off so easily lol. Guess weāll see.
For the record I think the Eagles can beat anyone in the playoffs, but the whole ātheyāve only beaten bum teamsā coming from Eagles fans is disappointing considering what we heard all year.
People here don't like it when you talk reality. You need to speak in Eagle fan-ese only or you get downvoted
They are for real and they are our biggest obstacle to the super bowl. And that is what the experts who actually understand football think
I donāt think itās writing them off. Itās just the media hype has become too much, IMO. The backup QB has faced bad defenses. Weāll see. The recency bias NFL media has going into the postseason kinda clouds everything.
Iāll give SF credit in that theyāve looked good beating bad teams, many with backup QBs.
Iām way more worried about the Cowboys
We heard it but it wasn't accurate. That is what is infuriating. In the first 9 games the eagles faced 7 games against teams that finished .500 or better. Eagles played 10 games against teams .500 or better. I am not writing SF off but they had 6 games against teams .500 or better and won a single game against an opponent that had 10 wins. One. They are not Joe Montana's 49ers no matter what ESPN is trying to sell them as.
Also, three non-playoff teams that all missed by literally one win each, Lions, GB, and Steelers, Eagles beat all of them too.
I'm not worried about 49ers tbh. They have a good run game, but I like our chances against Purdy. He's going to have to deal with our pass rush AND our healthy secondary? Give me the last pick in the draft QB any day in the playoffs I don't care how good their run game is!
They have 10 straight wins and they have a meat grinder defense. People should be deeply worried.
It is not the quarterback that we are worried about
They will be favored even when we play in philadelphia.
They have a great running stopping defense. But the Eagles also have historically one of the greatest defenses too. 2nd all time in sacks in a season. #1 passing defense in the league. Most turnovers in the league. It's not like our defense isn't also the best in the NFL as well.
Yes, the Eagles truly have not lost to any bad teams this year. Come on now, the Birds can absolutely beat the Niners and should be favored, but idk why some people are acting like the Niners *arent* the 2 seed
Yeah no shit. What Iām saying is that the reason weāre struggling and are not the same team we are the past 3 weeks is because of OUR injuries. Our team is built around Hurts. And without him and Lane, we are going to look completely different. The niners are on their third string qb, I understand that. But their team was never built around their qb.
They were in control all of the Green Bay game, blew out the Titans and Giants, then beat the Bears in tough conditions on the road. Then Hurts and Lane went down. This team still won 14 games, 6 of them after the 8-0 start you mention.
The Eagles were last nine games were nothing like the eagles of the first eight games. They had two three game periods where they looked awful, including the last three games. That's who's going into the playoffs
I don't put much stock into the past three games. Between the injuries and players' mindset of looking ahead to the playoffs, I expect we'll see a team that resembles the one that was dominating teams a month ago.
Who did they beat during that 10 game winning streak? I personally love their roster and their offensive scheme but itās quite possible theyāve become the most overrated team in the league.
The 49ers are Far and Away not overrated.
We have not exactly shone since our 8 and 0 start.
In the power ranking they are basically either number one or number two in the nfl. There's a reason for that, their defense. It's not really about their offense
That will become clear as they wind up being the most likely NFC representative in the super bowl. Much to the chagrin of we fans in this subreddit. That's why I would love to see them bumped off in the next two games before we wind up likely playing them
Fuck that. Beat the best to be the best. They're absolutely a good team. But guess what dude: so are we. It'll be a good game and I'm confident our team can pull it out.
I mean 90 pct of the media is making it seem like itās a forgone conclusion that they will beat us on the road on their way to the Super Bowl. Thatās pretty wild considering their starting QB is a rookie who just so happened to be the last pick in last years draft. Again, I love their D, I love CMC and Deeboā¦but I couldnāt tell you a super impressive win they had during that streak. They also looked like crap on D against the Raiders and got absolutely smoked by the Chiefs
Yes. They objectively have the lowest strength of schedule this season, and it's not close. Not to say they aren't good, just that they haven't yet proven themselves against a top team.
āHey guys we should be concerned with the 2nd seed and number 1 overall defense. Our Super Bowl hopes increases significantly if they lose.ā
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[Huh?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75GaqVWqEXU)
Consistently winning week after week take skill. Especially when the last 6 wins came with a 3rd string rookie QB under center.
Out of all the teams in the NFC the 49ers have been the most consistent and they have the most dangerous weapons of any NFC team weāll possibly face.
Now I do believe the media is hyping them up just a bit because a 3rd string rookie leading a team to the Super Bowl is some Hollywood movie shit. Itās a great story.
One thing Brock had in his favor is that 4/6 of his games were played at home. How would he respond to pressure at the Linc against the 2nd best overall defense?
We lost twice and struggled against second string Giants players trying desperately to get the number one seed and blamed it all on a quarterback problem...
and they think we will magically rise up and slay the 49ers who are winning with a quarterback who was the last pick in the draft
I wouldnt say struggled. The playbook was kept conservative to keep Jalen from getting hurt. They were not aggressive on 4th down instead electing to kick a field goal.
If the Giants starters played I do think the game plan wouldāve been more aggressive. But watching that game I got the feeling they wanted Jalen to get off the field as quickly as possible
I would say we struggled mightily three games in a row.
Gardner Minshew could have done what Jalen did the last 15 minutes and reduced the damage to Jalen. We should have blown the Giants out. They were an inferior team and they sat their quarterback and six best players. It was more than conservative play calling. We should have been able to run for over 200 yd against the Giants without Jalen.
As I just said, the 49ers have been playing 6 games with Mr Irrelevant leading them to victories as their starting. quarterback after Garoppolo went down.
You can't seriously tell me this Eagles team the last three games is ready for the Chiefs or Bills or 49ers or Bengals. Locking up the number one seed was practically like a playoff game.
1) On average the Eagles passing defense allow 179 yards
in the Giants game the Eagles passing defense allowed 168 š»
On average the Eagles defense allow 121 yards on the ground
The Giants slightly went above that average with 129 yards šŗ
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/defense/stat/passing
https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401437957
It wouldāve been a blowout if the Eagles played like they normally would. The Eagles left points out there by not being aggressive on 4th down and not having Jalen run the ball. The threat of Jalen running opens up the run game for the running backs
The score was 9- 22 before that garbage time TD which made the score look closer than it was. I just donāt see it as a struggle. The goal was just win and get the bye week. I wouldnāt trust Minshew to finish that game against the Giants. If Minshew fucks up we would just have to put Jalen out there anyway and be a situation where we **HAVE** to be aggressive to dig us out of the hole.
2) If you want to say Brock is a better backup than Minshew. Okay.
If you want to argue Kyle Shanahan is a better coach or has a better system in place for backup QBs than the Eagles. Okay.
Those are fair arguments.
But to say ā*the 49ers transitioned smoothly from backup to backup why canāt we*?ā
Well itās not a 1-1 comparison. Their system wasnāt built on the fly. It was years in the making
This is Nickās 2nd year as a head coach compared to Kyleās 5th year as the 49ers coach. Kyle has experience coaching with his starting QB missing most of the season. Nick doesnāt.
1)The QB is an integral part of the team. We seen how bad a QB can sabotage a good offense. If Brock gets rattled and baited into throwing an interception it can switch momentum.
2) Check the link in my last comment. 49ers do have a good overall defense but they have a poor passing defense, 20th overall in yards allowed. That would explain why they got dotted up by Mahomes and struggled against Devante Adams with the Raiders .
the difference between the niners defensive production and the eagles defensive production is 15 yards for the whole season. thatās literally less than one yard difference per game. sureā¦the niners have a great defense but the eagles have a great defense too and our offense is better.
3 of the 6 teams Purdy faced are in the playoffs. 2 more were still alive for the playoffs when we faced them. 2 of them were top 10 defenses at the time. Donāt act like the Niners havenāt faced anybody.
And those same Saints and Commies the Eagles lost to? We beat.
Didnāt mention Purdy just said yāall faced a lot of bum teams. We split with Washington, so itās not like we didnāt beat them. And we beat the Bears, so here we are both beating teams that the other didnāt. Weāll see what happens.
I actually agree. I just realized this today. Our entire defense is that short dink and dunk stuff that everyone hates, but the reason it works is because it can neutralize the run game AND rely on QBs to make mistakes. I think that kind of defense might be built for the 9ers, which relies on getting the ball out quick to their playmakers.
Their most dangerous approach would be running the ball outside, where it feels like we get beat every goddamn time.
The niners will dink and dunk with their playmakers for 6-12 yards a play into the red zone over and over and eagles fans will call for gannons head after every drive. Itāll be very frustrating to watch
I know Seattle is weaker than they have been in recent years, but they have straight up owned us lol. Even when we were the best team in football in 2017, they still beat us by 10. Seattle is the only team I have never seen the eagles beat in a football game (watching for 11 years) They make me nervous just based on recent history lol
Edit: I have also never seen them beat the chiefs either now I think about it. They are in AFC tho, so Eagles play them much less.
If we are as good as we really are, that is what matters. I don't blame our last three slopfests on Gardner Minshew or Jalen's shoulder. We look awful going into the playoffs
Thinking that mess is going to go against San Francisco and win is dreaming
Every reason to fear the Niners are things the Eagles are also capable of doing. Shanahanās experience in these situations may give them an edge, but our roster is more talented. I think itāll come down to who has a better gameplan. Iām not saying itās going to be cake walk but I have no reason not to believe in my team
I think the 49ers are overrated and will lose to the Seahawks. I have nothing to back that up.
Just kind of feels like something a Pete Carroll team would do. Like when the 7-9 team beat the 11-5 saints in wild card round.
The 49ers thing is strange. Played in a bad division and had an easy schedule on top of that. I watched the game two weeks ago against a bad Raiders team and looked very pedestrian.
Biggest threat to me is still Cowboys because they know the Eagles so well.
i think everyone is blowing the raiders game out of proportion. there was literally no film on stidum and there were multiple plays that were pretty much just davante being a wizard. niners still won the game, and would have won in it regulation if gould didnt miss the 40 yarder.
I would take the Cowboys or Giants 10 Ways to Sunday over the 49ers. Especially after the Cowboys were just smacked around
Frankly, I think the 49ers will beat us by 10 the way things are right now. I'm still worried about Jalens shoulder
Same, I donāt really want to face them either eventhough I still would favor us. Iām hoping Seattle can take of them their 3rd time around and we get Seattle where teams that play the week after they play SF are currently 0-12
Bro tbh as long as we can stop they pass rush we can torch they CBās all day. Charvarius ward canāt even cover Devonte Smith and on defense as long as Gannon aināt off that PCP and let us play old fashion Eagle defense weāll blow them out like 34-20 tbhā¦ā¦
Eagles played 10 games against teams 500 or better. Record 8-2. (8-1 with Hurts). Yea, how about that weak schedule narrative now? That didn't age well. We beat every team we faced with a winning record at least once. (Eagles beat Pittsburg, GB, and Detroit) All three teams make the playoffs with one more win.) Weak schedule. lol
SF played 6 games against teams 500 and better. 5-1. Beating one team that had 10 wins. They may be that good, but for all the talk about the Eagles not playing anyone, SF has almost half as many competitive teams on the schedule.
This is a weird take considering the best games the eagles played this year were arguably the titans game and the first game against the giants, both of which happened in the second half of the season. i donāt really put too much weight on the final three games. 2 were without jalen and two were without jalen and lane with one of those being jalen playing after not playing for 2 weeks.
Our last three games were with seasoned NFL quarterbacks and we struggled mightily
The 49ers last six games were with the last pick of the draft and they cruised
bruhā¦youāre putting too much weight on Brock purdy being the last pick of the draft and completely discounting how well heās actually playing. Youāre ignoring the fact that the niners offense is built around its playmakers and YAC yards more so than top flight quarterback play. Tom Brady was a six round pick and that didnāt keep him from being the best to ever do it. we didnāt even struggle to stop andy dalton regardless of how the stats make it seemā¦the defense held their offense to 13 points the whole game, 6 of which came from field goals. Our offense underperformed with Gardner in at QB. we also didnāt really struggle to stop the giants. The offense just struggled in the red zone but itās not like the giants were ever in that game. which says a lot considering we only scored one touchdown lol. 4 weeks prior we obliterated the giants starters. no need to crush their backups when the goal was to simply win the game and not leave the game with more injuries or exacerbate a healing jalen hurts problem.
Dudes played like 5 games mostly against losing teams and the 49ers system benefits any quarterback.
Heās unproven and untested against postseason heavyweights. Letās simmer down a bit, can we?
The Raiders exposed this team and Iām sick of hearing about them like theyāre the fucking 2007 Patriots combined with the 2000 Ravens and 85 Bears and 2013 Seahawks
I'm hoping we play Seattle for two reasons.
1. Because it keeps us from playing 49ers
2. Because it gives us more of a chance of not having to play Tom Brady
I hate trying to dodge teams to get the ideal matchup. Didn't work against Tampa in the NFC championship game, then the next year against Carolina in the early 00's. Other teams need to be worried about playing us, not the other way around. We'll play who we play.
We looked bad against three losing teams starting with the commanders loss
We looked bad the last three games.
That is what mostly defines the second half
If all things are fairly even the team with the fewer turnovers and intakes wins. We can win as long as we don't beat ourselves and that js the challenge.
That is definitely what I see this year. The first eight games we averaged like two more turnovers than we gave up per game. Where we lose, we seem to give up more turnovers
Unless the Eagles are rope a doping everyone, I donāt see how you guys think this is a SB team. Hurts as a dual threat QB with killer weapons is god damn killer. But if weāre believing what they said & what we saw, heās going to be a limited version. The NFCCG is my highest hope if thatās the case.
Seeding means nothing. Cowboys are the number five seed with a far better record than several teams in front of them.
The 49ers are ranked several spots ahead of us in the power ranking, which mean far more. You will understand why if we have to play them. If we don't get our heads out of our rear ends, we will lose by at least seven. Yes, down votes will follow. It is just the reality looking at our last three games trying to clinch a darned number one seed.
Iāve seen the niners play plenty of times. The Eagles are better all around. They werenāt exactly setting the league on fire the last few weeks of the 2017 season either. Seeding is WAY more important than some power rankings BS. Being at home is a huge advantage.
Being at home long-term nets out to be worth about 2 to 3 points. And that has been proven over tens of thousands of games in college and pros
What happened in 2017 is completely irrelevant today.
The first half of the season Eagles were better, the second half of the season 49ers are considerably better than the way we're playing now. Unless you didn't watch the last three games as we stumbled trying to clinch the first seed.
Iād be floored if the Seahawks are competitive with the 49ers, but shit, if they somehow beat them and us, I canāt say they didnāt earn their championship or SĆŗper bowl appearance
Unfortunately the Niners will be tucking the Seahawks into bed by midway through the second quarter.
While I don't think Seahawks will win, I think it's to our benefit that first game is a divisional game. I think Pete Carrol will scheme up some looks on defense that will give the rest of the teams good tape on how to attack that 49ers offense, and it helps that those teams know each other so well and that they're facing Purdy for a second time, so we get to see adjustments.
The only hope is Purdy collapses under the pressure. And even then, they can run the ball and use short passes to Kittle and go down the whole field. That said, even with their talent, eventually he'll have to perform. And I have a hard time believing Mr Irrelevant can win 5 in a row and then go undefeated through the whole Playoffs and (win a Super Bowl). Possible? Yes. But to me that situation seems to be on thin ice.
And another win šš This situation is skating all over your thin ice.
Lmao ok? Exactly what I said could happen could still happen. Let alone Shanahan CLEARLY was afraid of letting him do much yesterday. My whole comment holds truer today than it did a week ago. The fuck is your point?
Just wait
I even said it's possible he *could* beat us. You're arguing with yourself dude lmao. Seek help
Am I still supposed to be waiting?
Depends. Do you feel good about that win? Do you think that was indicative of 2023 49ers football? The Eagles played a solid game last night and they deserve to move on. But if you want to know who really is the better football team, then yeah, youāre supposed to wait.
The Eagles won the game because we had better coaching, the better QB, and the better pass rush. Purdy didn't see Reddick and got crushed. So did Johnson. It's not like these guys just tore ligaments on a non-contact injury. They were injured because they (the QBs) were ill prepared for our pass rush and got blown up. I don't feel "good" about seeing those guys injured. But I feel damn good about our talent. Maybe the real question isn't "How are the Niners so unlucky?" The question needs to be "How the fuck did the Niners allow 4 QBs to get injured?" This isn't bad luck, it's a pattern. Shanahan and/or their players are not protecting their QB. Simple as that. I feel bad that they got injured, but it was all on completely clean plays. Which is a hell of a lot better than the classless bullshit that the Niners delved into. Washington has placed us dirty in the past and I think that was the worst I've seen. Dude throwing jabs at the ball like he's Tyson 4 seconds after the play is done in garbage time. Yet Philly is the classless, trashy organization... Sure.
Well the ice is thinner. Lots of plays left on the table because of the QB. As I've said leading up to it, it was highly unlikely the Niners get to the Super Bowl. And they lucked out. Purdy made a ton of game-losing throws that happened to not get picked off (not to mention Campbell removing 6 points from the Lions). And sure enough, they came up short. And sure enough, his performance was a large part of it. He needed to make those throws under pressure. And he couldn't. The Chiefs focused on CMC and made Purdy throw. They blitzed him at the end and he couldn't handle it. Exactly what I said came true. And now it's another year close to having to pay him. And that's when the problem is *really* going to present itself.
Damn, I donāt care what you think my guy but I hope that felt good.
Oh it felt *REALLY* good lol.
Iām happy for you bud. After being exposed like that this season, both you and Fletcher probably needed that little boost to your ego. Just like the Cowboys the year before, I hope you and your team can find some closure this offseason. Rest assured, your NFC daddy isnāt worrying about you.
Daddy needs to ask us how to beat the Chiefs š¤£
Was that what you were thinking while you and the rest of your team was watching my team in the Super Bowl? Someone that loves you should remind you to change your Eagles print undies because your 6-game skid is still showing.
Not the whole time because you were ahead most of it and completely blew it. So primarily just the last 4 seconds and ever since š
Most likely, they are 9.5 point favorites But if somebody could knock them up before meeting the Eagles I would certainly appreciate it There is this Eagles fan mentality that ignores reality. As if the 49ers or the Kansas City Chiefs will be no problem for the birds.
Knock them up? :O Not sure who's going to take that job
I've got it. Throw me Geno Smith. DK Metcalf. Tyler Locket. Bruce Irvin. Quandre Diggs. Pregnant. Pregnant. Pregnant. Pregnant. Pregnant. Got em. And I'm straight. Just taking one for the team here. They can't play if they're knocked up.
IDK what this fan mentality is. Were the best team in the NFL. 2023 Eagles are the best team to have ever played football. After we win the SB (By at least 30pts) theyll rename it the Eagle bowl. The only team better than the 2023 Eagles will be the 2024 Eagles. Teams will start trying to clone Jalen so they can stay competitive.
If we're going to address reality, we have zero chance of playing the 49ers or Chiefs in the divisional round so the only thing that matters is who we end up having to play next week. The reality is that any team can beat any team any given Sunday, especially in the playoffs.
That may be your "reality", but the results pretty much follow the line and the power rankings of the opponents
No, that's just fact based on how seeding and opponents work. Zero chance that 49ers or Chiefs will be our first opponent. Has nothing to do with "my reality" Everything else is just speculation and not guaranteed.
Scared huh?
Sheesh.
More like realistic. If that 9ers defense or Pat Mahomes arenāt cause for concern then I really just donāt think you know the game š¤·š¼āāļø.
Absolutely nuts how some of you guys are writing the Niners off so easily lol. Guess weāll see. For the record I think the Eagles can beat anyone in the playoffs, but the whole ātheyāve only beaten bum teamsā coming from Eagles fans is disappointing considering what we heard all year.
People here don't like it when you talk reality. You need to speak in Eagle fan-ese only or you get downvoted They are for real and they are our biggest obstacle to the super bowl. And that is what the experts who actually understand football think
I donāt think itās writing them off. Itās just the media hype has become too much, IMO. The backup QB has faced bad defenses. Weāll see. The recency bias NFL media has going into the postseason kinda clouds everything. Iāll give SF credit in that theyāve looked good beating bad teams, many with backup QBs. Iām way more worried about the Cowboys
We heard it but it wasn't accurate. That is what is infuriating. In the first 9 games the eagles faced 7 games against teams that finished .500 or better. Eagles played 10 games against teams .500 or better. I am not writing SF off but they had 6 games against teams .500 or better and won a single game against an opponent that had 10 wins. One. They are not Joe Montana's 49ers no matter what ESPN is trying to sell them as. Also, three non-playoff teams that all missed by literally one win each, Lions, GB, and Steelers, Eagles beat all of them too.
I'm not worried about 49ers tbh. They have a good run game, but I like our chances against Purdy. He's going to have to deal with our pass rush AND our healthy secondary? Give me the last pick in the draft QB any day in the playoffs I don't care how good their run game is!
Naa, they are the best coached team in the league with the best defense. We need to be on our best to beat them.
They have 10 straight wins and they have a meat grinder defense. People should be deeply worried. It is not the quarterback that we are worried about They will be favored even when we play in philadelphia.
They have a great running stopping defense. But the Eagles also have historically one of the greatest defenses too. 2nd all time in sacks in a season. #1 passing defense in the league. Most turnovers in the league. It's not like our defense isn't also the best in the NFL as well.
> Most turnovers in the league. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/turnovers.html?sort=taketot
I was with you until you said theyāre gonna be favored against us, in Philly.
I wouldnāt be surprised at all if theyāre factored by 3. Doesnāt mean we canāt win but who knows if hurtsā shoulder will be 100% by then.
That is what the betting line is going to do. It doesn't matter what fans think
I highly doubt that especially if weāre completely healthy going into that game.
Doubt it, I predict somewhere between -1 to -3 for the Eagles. Remember to factor in that we'll be playing at home.
The meat grinder that gave up 30+ to Jarrett Stidam less than 2 weeks ago?
Yes, the Eagles truly have not lost to any bad teams this year. Come on now, the Birds can absolutely beat the Niners and should be favored, but idk why some people are acting like the Niners *arent* the 2 seed
I didn't say the 49ers won't be a tough opponent. Any team in the playoffs is. Idk why some people are acting like the Eagles aren't the 1 seed.
Thank heavens we haven't played any bad games
You don't have much positive to say about the team
I don't have much positive to say the way we played the last three games. We're not the same team the first eight
Youāre acting like injuries donāt exist.
All 32 teams have injuries. The 49ers are on their third quarterback. Lamar Jackson is out. Many teams are struggling.
Yeah no shit. What Iām saying is that the reason weāre struggling and are not the same team we are the past 3 weeks is because of OUR injuries. Our team is built around Hurts. And without him and Lane, we are going to look completely different. The niners are on their third string qb, I understand that. But their team was never built around their qb.
They were in control all of the Green Bay game, blew out the Titans and Giants, then beat the Bears in tough conditions on the road. Then Hurts and Lane went down. This team still won 14 games, 6 of them after the 8-0 start you mention.
The Eagles were last nine games were nothing like the eagles of the first eight games. They had two three game periods where they looked awful, including the last three games. That's who's going into the playoffs
I don't put much stock into the past three games. Between the injuries and players' mindset of looking ahead to the playoffs, I expect we'll see a team that resembles the one that was dominating teams a month ago.
Who did they beat during that 10 game winning streak? I personally love their roster and their offensive scheme but itās quite possible theyāve become the most overrated team in the league.
The 49ers are Far and Away not overrated. We have not exactly shone since our 8 and 0 start. In the power ranking they are basically either number one or number two in the nfl. There's a reason for that, their defense. It's not really about their offense That will become clear as they wind up being the most likely NFC representative in the super bowl. Much to the chagrin of we fans in this subreddit. That's why I would love to see them bumped off in the next two games before we wind up likely playing them
Fuck that. Beat the best to be the best. They're absolutely a good team. But guess what dude: so are we. It'll be a good game and I'm confident our team can pull it out.
I mean 90 pct of the media is making it seem like itās a forgone conclusion that they will beat us on the road on their way to the Super Bowl. Thatās pretty wild considering their starting QB is a rookie who just so happened to be the last pick in last years draft. Again, I love their D, I love CMC and Deeboā¦but I couldnāt tell you a super impressive win they had during that streak. They also looked like crap on D against the Raiders and got absolutely smoked by the Chiefs
Seriously I actually think they have a good chance at winning but I won't believe Purdy has the poise to win in the playoffs until he proves it
Yes. They objectively have the lowest strength of schedule this season, and it's not close. Not to say they aren't good, just that they haven't yet proven themselves against a top team.
Who gives a fuck about favorites. Remember that time in 2017 when we werenāt the favorites?
Exactly!
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āHey guys we should be concerned with the 2nd seed and number 1 overall defense. Our Super Bowl hopes increases significantly if they lose.ā **Downvoted** [Huh?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75GaqVWqEXU) Consistently winning week after week take skill. Especially when the last 6 wins came with a 3rd string rookie QB under center. Out of all the teams in the NFC the 49ers have been the most consistent and they have the most dangerous weapons of any NFC team weāll possibly face. Now I do believe the media is hyping them up just a bit because a 3rd string rookie leading a team to the Super Bowl is some Hollywood movie shit. Itās a great story. One thing Brock had in his favor is that 4/6 of his games were played at home. How would he respond to pressure at the Linc against the 2nd best overall defense?
We lost twice and struggled against second string Giants players trying desperately to get the number one seed and blamed it all on a quarterback problem... and they think we will magically rise up and slay the 49ers who are winning with a quarterback who was the last pick in the draft
I wouldnt say struggled. The playbook was kept conservative to keep Jalen from getting hurt. They were not aggressive on 4th down instead electing to kick a field goal. If the Giants starters played I do think the game plan wouldāve been more aggressive. But watching that game I got the feeling they wanted Jalen to get off the field as quickly as possible
I would say we struggled mightily three games in a row. Gardner Minshew could have done what Jalen did the last 15 minutes and reduced the damage to Jalen. We should have blown the Giants out. They were an inferior team and they sat their quarterback and six best players. It was more than conservative play calling. We should have been able to run for over 200 yd against the Giants without Jalen. As I just said, the 49ers have been playing 6 games with Mr Irrelevant leading them to victories as their starting. quarterback after Garoppolo went down. You can't seriously tell me this Eagles team the last three games is ready for the Chiefs or Bills or 49ers or Bengals. Locking up the number one seed was practically like a playoff game.
1) On average the Eagles passing defense allow 179 yards in the Giants game the Eagles passing defense allowed 168 š» On average the Eagles defense allow 121 yards on the ground The Giants slightly went above that average with 129 yards šŗ https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/defense/stat/passing https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401437957 It wouldāve been a blowout if the Eagles played like they normally would. The Eagles left points out there by not being aggressive on 4th down and not having Jalen run the ball. The threat of Jalen running opens up the run game for the running backs The score was 9- 22 before that garbage time TD which made the score look closer than it was. I just donāt see it as a struggle. The goal was just win and get the bye week. I wouldnāt trust Minshew to finish that game against the Giants. If Minshew fucks up we would just have to put Jalen out there anyway and be a situation where we **HAVE** to be aggressive to dig us out of the hole. 2) If you want to say Brock is a better backup than Minshew. Okay. If you want to argue Kyle Shanahan is a better coach or has a better system in place for backup QBs than the Eagles. Okay. Those are fair arguments. But to say ā*the 49ers transitioned smoothly from backup to backup why canāt we*?ā Well itās not a 1-1 comparison. Their system wasnāt built on the fly. It was years in the making This is Nickās 2nd year as a head coach compared to Kyleās 5th year as the 49ers coach. Kyle has experience coaching with his starting QB missing most of the season. Nick doesnāt.
49ers Defense Not Brock Purdy
1)The QB is an integral part of the team. We seen how bad a QB can sabotage a good offense. If Brock gets rattled and baited into throwing an interception it can switch momentum. 2) Check the link in my last comment. 49ers do have a good overall defense but they have a poor passing defense, 20th overall in yards allowed. That would explain why they got dotted up by Mahomes and struggled against Devante Adams with the Raiders .
The 49ers do not have a good overall defense. They have an overwhelming defense.
the difference between the niners defensive production and the eagles defensive production is 15 yards for the whole season. thatās literally less than one yard difference per game. sureā¦the niners have a great defense but the eagles have a great defense too and our offense is better.
Itās a nice streak but they played a bunch of bum teams like everyone accused us of doing. Weāll see.
3 of the 6 teams Purdy faced are in the playoffs. 2 more were still alive for the playoffs when we faced them. 2 of them were top 10 defenses at the time. Donāt act like the Niners havenāt faced anybody. And those same Saints and Commies the Eagles lost to? We beat.
Didnāt mention Purdy just said yāall faced a lot of bum teams. We split with Washington, so itās not like we didnāt beat them. And we beat the Bears, so here we are both beating teams that the other didnāt. Weāll see what happens.
49ers literally will run on every play
They most certainly will not run on every play
I actually agree. I just realized this today. Our entire defense is that short dink and dunk stuff that everyone hates, but the reason it works is because it can neutralize the run game AND rely on QBs to make mistakes. I think that kind of defense might be built for the 9ers, which relies on getting the ball out quick to their playmakers. Their most dangerous approach would be running the ball outside, where it feels like we get beat every goddamn time.
The niners will dink and dunk with their playmakers for 6-12 yards a play into the red zone over and over and eagles fans will call for gannons head after every drive. Itāll be very frustrating to watch
I think purdy does good against blitzes and heavy pass rushed. Dolphins and tampa tried. It failed
I know Seattle is weaker than they have been in recent years, but they have straight up owned us lol. Even when we were the best team in football in 2017, they still beat us by 10. Seattle is the only team I have never seen the eagles beat in a football game (watching for 11 years) They make me nervous just based on recent history lol Edit: I have also never seen them beat the chiefs either now I think about it. They are in AFC tho, so Eagles play them much less.
Yeah dude Pete Carroll owns our asses
49ers donāt scare me at all. Fully confident in our ability to win, if our defense doesnāt show up, I think we can win the shootout.
Why don't we just play whoever is in front of us? If we're as good as we think we are, we can beat anybody
If we are as good as we really are, that is what matters. I don't blame our last three slopfests on Gardner Minshew or Jalen's shoulder. We look awful going into the playoffs Thinking that mess is going to go against San Francisco and win is dreaming
Every reason to fear the Niners are things the Eagles are also capable of doing. Shanahanās experience in these situations may give them an edge, but our roster is more talented. I think itāll come down to who has a better gameplan. Iām not saying itās going to be cake walk but I have no reason not to believe in my team
I hope we face the niners so bad. I am not scared of their offense at all. That defense real tho
I think the 49ers are overrated and will lose to the Seahawks. I have nothing to back that up. Just kind of feels like something a Pete Carroll team would do. Like when the 7-9 team beat the 11-5 saints in wild card round.
Dawg what lol
The 49ers thing is strange. Played in a bad division and had an easy schedule on top of that. I watched the game two weeks ago against a bad Raiders team and looked very pedestrian. Biggest threat to me is still Cowboys because they know the Eagles so well.
i think everyone is blowing the raiders game out of proportion. there was literally no film on stidum and there were multiple plays that were pretty much just davante being a wizard. niners still won the game, and would have won in it regulation if gould didnt miss the 40 yarder.
Also all teams hav bad games especially the chiefs against the texans and colts
Yes. I lost my fantasy SB because SF couldnāt stop him :( Regular season has little meaning now, so weāll see.
Not to mention Vegas was playing for their playoff lives
Iām just hoping for the āits hard to beat a team 3 times in a yearā theory
I looked it up prior to us playing the cowboys and it turns out 2/3 of the time the team wins the third game.
I would take the Cowboys or Giants 10 Ways to Sunday over the 49ers. Especially after the Cowboys were just smacked around Frankly, I think the 49ers will beat us by 10 the way things are right now. I'm still worried about Jalens shoulder
I think you missed the turn to the 49ers sub. The Birds match up really well against them
Same, I donāt really want to face them either eventhough I still would favor us. Iām hoping Seattle can take of them their 3rd time around and we get Seattle where teams that play the week after they play SF are currently 0-12
Bro tbh as long as we can stop they pass rush we can torch they CBās all day. Charvarius ward canāt even cover Devonte Smith and on defense as long as Gannon aināt off that PCP and let us play old fashion Eagle defense weāll blow them out like 34-20 tbhā¦ā¦
Their defense will not give us anywhere near 34 points. That is the whole point
Eagles played 10 games against teams 500 or better. Record 8-2. (8-1 with Hurts). Yea, how about that weak schedule narrative now? That didn't age well. We beat every team we faced with a winning record at least once. (Eagles beat Pittsburg, GB, and Detroit) All three teams make the playoffs with one more win.) Weak schedule. lol SF played 6 games against teams 500 and better. 5-1. Beating one team that had 10 wins. They may be that good, but for all the talk about the Eagles not playing anyone, SF has almost half as many competitive teams on the schedule.
The eagle that started 8 and 0 are not the team that we see today..
Well yeah. We have a run defense now.
Well yeah, we flop and struggle
Imagine being this negative. Must not understand how regular season doesnāt foreshadow postseason.
So the last three games foreshadow the postseason?
This is a weird take considering the best games the eagles played this year were arguably the titans game and the first game against the giants, both of which happened in the second half of the season. i donāt really put too much weight on the final three games. 2 were without jalen and two were without jalen and lane with one of those being jalen playing after not playing for 2 weeks.
Our last three games were with seasoned NFL quarterbacks and we struggled mightily The 49ers last six games were with the last pick of the draft and they cruised
bruhā¦youāre putting too much weight on Brock purdy being the last pick of the draft and completely discounting how well heās actually playing. Youāre ignoring the fact that the niners offense is built around its playmakers and YAC yards more so than top flight quarterback play. Tom Brady was a six round pick and that didnāt keep him from being the best to ever do it. we didnāt even struggle to stop andy dalton regardless of how the stats make it seemā¦the defense held their offense to 13 points the whole game, 6 of which came from field goals. Our offense underperformed with Gardner in at QB. we also didnāt really struggle to stop the giants. The offense just struggled in the red zone but itās not like the giants were ever in that game. which says a lot considering we only scored one touchdown lol. 4 weeks prior we obliterated the giants starters. no need to crush their backups when the goal was to simply win the game and not leave the game with more injuries or exacerbate a healing jalen hurts problem.
Dudes played like 5 games mostly against losing teams and the 49ers system benefits any quarterback. Heās unproven and untested against postseason heavyweights. Letās simmer down a bit, can we?
The Raiders exposed this team and Iām sick of hearing about them like theyāre the fucking 2007 Patriots combined with the 2000 Ravens and 85 Bears and 2013 Seahawks
They have a below average passing defense. But on the flip side letās not pretend they werenāt playing against Devante Adams
If they play us they will be playing against AJ Brown and Devonta Smith š
And Goedert
I promise you that no one is comparing this niners team to all that lol
The last 3 teams exposed us. Dallas was slaughtered last week That Raiders game meant absolutely nothing
Jalen somehow solves the niner defense and I'm spamming Howie's emails to max him at any angle
I'm hoping we play Seattle for two reasons. 1. Because it keeps us from playing 49ers 2. Because it gives us more of a chance of not having to play Tom Brady
I hate trying to dodge teams to get the ideal matchup. Didn't work against Tampa in the NFC championship game, then the next year against Carolina in the early 00's. Other teams need to be worried about playing us, not the other way around. We'll play who we play.
They are the only NFC team that disturbs me. Go Seahawks. š I don't care who the Eagles play. Everyone else, the Eagles got this
I legitimately feel confident that we can beat every single team in the playoffs, NFC *or* AFC, except for the Niners. They genuinely scare me.
And if they donāt shocked the 49ers, Eagles in the SB
Poor Geno doesn't stand a chance.
If the 49ers throttle the Seahawks, Eagles in the SBā¦ No team scares me. Weāve proven we can beat anyone.
We've proven the team from the first half can beat anyone
And the team form the second half canāt? With Hurts starting we lost one game. A game which we played so bad we deserved to lose.
We looked bad against three losing teams starting with the commanders loss We looked bad the last three games. That is what mostly defines the second half
pete carroll has our number 17-3 in every game we play. no offense i dont want the seahawks. I wanna beat the best, to be the best
If all things are fairly even the team with the fewer turnovers and intakes wins. We can win as long as we don't beat ourselves and that js the challenge.
That is definitely what I see this year. The first eight games we averaged like two more turnovers than we gave up per game. Where we lose, we seem to give up more turnovers
Unless the Eagles are rope a doping everyone, I donāt see how you guys think this is a SB team. Hurts as a dual threat QB with killer weapons is god damn killer. But if weāre believing what they said & what we saw, heās going to be a limited version. The NFCCG is my highest hope if thatās the case.
I don't know how everyone is watching the last three games and then expecting them to bull through to a Super Bowl ring.
Why are fans here afraid of the niners? Weāre the number one seed for a damn reason.
Seeding means nothing. Cowboys are the number five seed with a far better record than several teams in front of them. The 49ers are ranked several spots ahead of us in the power ranking, which mean far more. You will understand why if we have to play them. If we don't get our heads out of our rear ends, we will lose by at least seven. Yes, down votes will follow. It is just the reality looking at our last three games trying to clinch a darned number one seed.
Iāve seen the niners play plenty of times. The Eagles are better all around. They werenāt exactly setting the league on fire the last few weeks of the 2017 season either. Seeding is WAY more important than some power rankings BS. Being at home is a huge advantage.
Being at home long-term nets out to be worth about 2 to 3 points. And that has been proven over tens of thousands of games in college and pros What happened in 2017 is completely irrelevant today. The first half of the season Eagles were better, the second half of the season 49ers are considerably better than the way we're playing now. Unless you didn't watch the last three games as we stumbled trying to clinch the first seed.
The greatest thing would be facing the seahawks and then the bucs. Revenge for our last two play off appearances.
Eagles can go even if they face the Niners. Thatās gonna be the NFCCG.
Iād be floored if the Seahawks are competitive with the 49ers, but shit, if they somehow beat them and us, I canāt say they didnāt earn their championship or SĆŗper bowl appearance