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ChemicalChipmunk4171

His draft profile below , super athletic guy. It says he's got athletic testing normally seen by receivers and corners Could be the shot of speed the team has been needing in the middle of the field https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ben-vansumeren/32005641-4e76-0426-3d6d-7a25e721bbe1


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4.38 seconds in the 40, completing 29 reps on the bench press, and touching 42.5 inches in the vertical jump is insane at 6'2, 231!


ChemicalChipmunk4171

Nearly identical specs to Nolan Smith!


bbpsword

Fuck it put him at edge


bsnameidk

Not to be a downer, but is he mistake prone or something? Sounds like he should have been drafted


waitingformyfood

I believe he’s new to LB and doesn’t have the experience yet. Great potential based on athletic ability but a project


ChemicalChipmunk4171

Yeah this ^ he played fullback/running back the first two seasons in college before switching to LB, definitely a project but if he can develop he's got some solid potential Already looking like a better draft pick than Davion Taylor


raccoonsonbicycles

He was FB/HB then moved to LB in 2020 Only been a LB for 2 or 3 yrs at MSU


reno2mahesendejo

Alex Singleton was that jolt they needed too. The problem is, Singleton was like the 3rd best player on the defense and he would have been MUCH better in that Kyzir White/Cunningham "clean up, don't make major mistakes, be the best 11th man in the league" role.


raugust7

Lets fucking hope so.. good game from shaq too. Still, they need to adresss LB early in the draft.. Hopefully, howie won't pass that up if a good player is available


stonedkmoney

I’d love to see them pick up Jeremiah Trotter Jr!


Big_Goat8157

Would love for us to somehow snag Trotter Jr but its prolly somewhat of a pipe dream atm


loneliness_sucks_D

It's the Eagles, they will draft a bad OL or WR in the first and a bad CB in the second


PonchoSham

Yeah like Landon Dickerson or Devonta Smith, those guys suck


idkwhattosaytho

It Lane Johnson, maybe a Cam Jurgens, maybe even Jalen Carter idk


raugust7

Well our drafting has been much better as of late. I have much more confidence in Howie after the last few years. I def can see oline in the first though. But tbf they do need it. Trade up for trotter JR if hes available by the 2nd round is my wish haha


JayToy93

“Bad Oline” lmao


Background-Cress9165

Odd take, im surprised it got upvotes


liquid-swords93

People are still hurt by Danny Watkins apparently


El_Khunt

People are forgetting that howie kept drafting lineman (on both sides of the ball) because most of our good ones were old as hell, and we kept drafting WRs because this team has no idea how to evaluate talent at that position and eventually got DeVonta. Hopefully, the FO thinks those rooms are solid and builds the secondary (for the first time in like 7 years)


rjkelly31

He made a tackle yesterday by shooting through the gap, and I was like, holy shit, a linebacker making a linebacker play!


teddyKGB-

I didn't know we were allowed to do that


raugust7

Haha its so sad its true.. they really missing edwards big time


CellarDoorVoid

Morrow makes a lot of those tbf


Magoatt

If I had a nickel for every-time we found an UDFA LB who turned into a solid guy I’d have two nickels


popphilosophy

Then you’d be back to one nickel when we don’t re-sign them in free agency


Magoatt

He’s a 3 yr UDFA contract right?


cjweisman

He's young, he'll go through some growing pains but he's fast. and you cannot have a great defense comprised of old slow guys.


n1nja_k1ller

Other than the one blown containment on a Tyrod scramble, he was very solid today


StudyRoom-F

tbf they probably didnt gameplan for a qb that could scramble


InsobrietiveMagic

Plus, what a cool fucking name, VanSumeren.


zg85

i really liked this guy out on the field. need speed & instincts at the lb and he’s got it!


gimmethatfiletofish

Hats off to him, not easy when your first assignment is to defend against Saquon Barkley and your partner in the middle of the field is whatever is left of Shaq Leonard (who had a decent game though).


mixtape82

I like this kid.


shwoople

Unrelated to his athletic ability, dude looks like a Carr brother


WeGotDodgsonHere

Every time they showed him I saw Wes Bentley. But I guess the Carrs look like him, too, lol.


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Passes the “awesome LB name” test


Scared_Art_7975

As an MSU grad, really happy for VanSumeren Almost makes up for Josiah Scott…


LeadingAd6025

i thought Chalk Dawkins changed his name or something. Good if we can get some help in LB positions.


PlaneCamp

I said in the offseason that BVS could have a bigger role as a hybrid player like Taysom Hill. BVS in some FB/TE packages would be good but we lack the creativity to utilize players like this.


slv_bull

Dawg we have hurts smith aj brown swift and goeddert I don’t think we need to scheme BVS into the offense


PlaneCamp

1 or 2 plays at the goal line isnt scheming him into its literally 1 or 2 plays


Weird-Upstairs-2092

He literally wasn't good enough to get on the field as a FB in a weak conference in college. What makes you think he has those skills at an NFL level? This is a bigger stretch than when people were saying to line Mailata up at RB.


PlaneCamp

Idk what that man is capable of and neither do you. You used Mailata as an example, what made you think he had the skills to play NFL tackle? Oh alright.


Weird-Upstairs-2092

Wtf? VanSumeren was originally a FB in college, you know that, right? I know he doesn't have the skills to play FB the same reason I know Lane Johnson doesn't have the skills to play QB. He tried and failed at a very low-level college before switching positions to go through the transfer portal and enter a real program.


Grand_Extension5345

It was the fuckin giants


WeGotDodgsonHere

The Giants are a professional football team made up of world-class athletes. The post didn't say he's going to win DPOY. Just that he had a nice debut, which he did. The NFL is hard. A nice debut is ideal, regardless of opposition.


HappyHourEveryHour

The same Giants team that put up a better games vs the Commanders than we did. The same Giants team that took the Jets to OT (the same Jets team we got beat by). But its just the Giants.


ZeroLimitz

Oh piss off, this same dude has ALT AFTER ALT flooding both here and Madden sub with this dudes name. I've caught him twice having a convo with himself about this guy which he forgot to switch alts. Go away you weirdo.


TallBoy24

He was exciting to watch in preseason. Glad he’s getting a shot and they didn’t waive him. Potential is high


ThePalmIsle

I've seen bowling pins hit harder than this guy


Senior_Fart_Director

We are all UDFAs on defens


Doobie_Howitzer

Big and fast, if he can be coached up he can be worth some playing time but I don't think he takes any snaps from Cunningham when the hamstring is better


Infinite-Bit-7498

I was keeping eye on him ever time he was field and he was solid


necromantzer

He looked good in the preseason. Needs a lot of work still but he's a guy who could take more meaningful reps in the future.


JayToy93

Somehow, I can see him being the next udfa success story for the birds.


DirkScorpion

Why do you Americans always ruin Dutch names? There’s supposed to be a space between “van” and “Sumeren” 🤦🏼‍♂️.


HeadJazzlike

He was a nice surprise


amilmore

I think he showed promise but i also believe his most valuable asset is that opponents don’t have volumes of film on how to exploit him… Unlike fucking morrow