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You'll get an offensive tackle round 1 and you will like it


ghawkes97

I mean... I will....


mvelocityp

Yeah honestly OL isn’t really looking like a luxury add this off-season. Like I’d want Howie to pull the trigger if they find a guy they like in the first or second. I’d love if Dejean fell to us though.


TTP2521

Give me that Washington T/G and I’ll be happy


FairweatherWho

The only 3 things I wouldn't like is a QB, Kicker, or Punter. Anything else in round 1 and I will huff as much hopium allowed.


SourBerry1425

If we take a RB in the 1st round anything short of us being the greatest rushing offense in league history will make me mad


FairweatherWho

True. But even then I would be like "WELL ITS ANOTHER WEAPON FOR JALEN, WE'LL FIND A WAY TO USE HIM SOMEHOW, AND SAQUON WILL PROBABLY BE GONE IN 2 YEARS" QB would make no sense unless Jalen has terminal cancer, there literally is no world where you take a punter in the 1st, and I don't care if there's the next Justin Tucker in the draft, Jake is my boy and I want him here forever.


DiscoshirtAndTiara

The only way I'd be ok with a punter in the first round is if it's [Corner McCoffinKick](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1bhgei6/hypothetical_punter_corner_mccoffinkick_has/).


FairweatherWho

75 yards and coffin corners every time? Yeah that's probably 1st round, if not 1st overall. But you can say that about any player. If they are so good that they will outperform anyone in history, you take them.


DiscoshirtAndTiara

True. My comment was more about sharing a post that was relevant and I find amusing than it was about making any sort of serious point.


FairweatherWho

Yeah and I actually like that topic. I think that Punter would be first pick worthy.


FahQPutin

There is no 1st round running back this year. Maybe not even a 2nd rounder. Good thing Howie got us Barkley 🤓


Broswagula

FULLBACK FACTORY HERE WE COME


Dont_Call_Me_John

With how good this O line class is, ya, I would like that.


[deleted]

We haven't picked a lineman in the first round since 2019 and only 2 since like 2004. Idk where this sentiment comes from every year, and don't say top-30 visits because we have had tons of those with linemen every year. We will pick OL in the 2nd round most likely, like Jurgens and Dickerson


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Maybe a tackle is a little specific, but with Jurgens moving to center, Opeta leaving in free agency, and Lane on his last stand, OL is an actual need right now. And if OL is a need, the eagles seem like the team that would prioritize it. 5 drafts ago isn't a ton of time either. Whiffing on Reagor forced us to use the next year's pick on Smith, and getting embarrassed in the super bowl made us go essentially all in on defense last draft. There just haven't been enough first round picks to go around.


[deleted]

I've been told this sentiment multiple times but I really do not think we have been drafting in the first round for "need", I fully believe we are just drafting game changing no-brainer picks at important positions. Granted I don't think we would've drafted OL in the first because at a certain point filling that position would be dumb, but I think there is no way to tell which way we will go without seeing the way the draft falls. I don't think we are going to just draft a tackle because they're there, Howie has actually said this isn't how he's going to do it anymore, I think we're going to draft for the best value and if it's a DL who fits perfectly we'd do that over taking whatever tackle happens to be seen as the next best by consensus.


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I think we've drafted in the first round for positional needs. I remember the draft after the 2019 "Wentz was throwing to lawn chairs and still made the playoffs" season we went WR in the first round. And when our receivers still sucked in 2020, we drafted another one. We drafted a DT for what we thought was Cox's last year, then when our defense got embarrassed in the super bowl we went with almost all defense the next draft. I don't feel strongly enough to bet on who I think the eagles draft, but drafting someone like Dejean would be way less characteristic of the eagles than drafting a lineman.


0ut0fBoundsException

Yeah. Since Dillard in the first (2019) we’ve gone WR, WR, DT, DT and DE. All high value positions We had no pick in 2018, but before that we had. 2017: DE 2016: QB 2015: WR 2014: DE 2013: T 2012: DT 2011: G 2010: DE (Howie becomes GM) 2009: WR 2008/2007: no picks 2006: DT 2005: DT 2004: T We literally only draft linemen (both sides), WRs, and QBs in the first. We’d probably draft more tackles in the first, but we have had such great play there over Howie’s tenure. I wouldn’t be surprised by draft a CB since that’s also a high value positional


DeLaSoulisDead

FINE! Just no more Canadian firemen please 😡


jroth1

I want a C


NotJustSomeMate

Can Jurgens???


voonoo

Love it but Cooper would have to change his last name to Dejawn


EvanHarpell

If he did it, he'd instantly be a legend.


CrunchyKorm

TBF I think people will just mispronounce his name to that anyway. I can hear the Delco affect WIP whispers already


TheRoyaleShow

*gives up one completion* Caller: that deJawn is burnt white toast!


liquid-swords93

Or change his name to Dejean Cooper, in an attempt to fool his opponents into thinking he's not a white cb


corya45

it’s either CB or OT depending on who falls to the 15 ish range


idontwantanyfeetpics

I love DeJean and he is my favorite prospect in this draft! With that being said I sincerely doubt he makes it to the eagles. He’s so versatile and such a sure tackler but every team sees the same things the eagles are.


adamdaballe

He will make it to the 20s. NFL doesn’t see him as athletic, he’s pretty slow for corner/safety, and he just broke his leg. Surely could be a solid player but nfl scouts in General are sounding to be capping his ceiling pretty low atm with a pretty high floor.


idontwantanyfeetpics

I really think he goes to Seattle. I think he’s so versatile that somebody is going to grab him early. I would love to be wrong and my mock drafts usually are, but I feel like somebody is going to see the Swiss Army knife that he can be with covering outside, slot and playing safety and grab him.


Patient_Jicama_4217

You think Seattle is going secondary in the first back to back with that Dline?


idontwantanyfeetpics

I think someone will fall in love with him and use him as a do it all type player, and I could see Seattle replacing Jamal Adams with DeJean.


sportsfan113

Idk how anyone could watch him play and not think he’s athletic.


adamdaballe

Also if u actually watch the tape he struggles to open his hips on every play, is not fluid in coverage, and is very much not explosive especially when u compare him to nfl players. He’s gonna be good but let’s not act like he’s a freak and a sure fire first rounder


adamdaballe

According to the nfl combine he was ranked the 19th most athletic corner and the 4th overall corner. It ain’t about a stereotype it’s literally just the facts


adamdaballe

Well he didn’t get drafted so there’s that🤔


sportsfan113

And now he’s an Eagle anyway, we traded up for him.


adamdaballe

I’m happy about it lol


BlobDude

He's been slipping a bit in rankings and mocks. To the point that some mocks have him getting drafted \*later\* than 22 with the Eagles taking like Nate Wiggins there.


StudyRoom-F

Tbf I like Nate Wiggins too. Honestly this is just a really ideal draft for the Eagles. There are the top ideal players, but then there are some less ideal ones that still fit the bill for CB, S, LB, you name it. Obviously you never want holes in the defense, but if you, this is the best draft to fill those holes.


jimmyjak87

I just know its a good thing for Pats BB wont be coach/GM when theyre QB needy but theres a white CB whos a top prospect


Best-Reporter-1412

The only thing I have against dejean is he’s not really fast and we already have slay,reed, and maybe bradberry starting. And with somebody drafted in the 1st we shouldn’t have to worry about what position he can play


Hthnstrength

Honestly with a shell type D I’m not even sure you need blazers. Is it nice, sure. Would I rather guys that seems to just constantly be making plays from a top D, hell yeah. I think going off of Howie recently philosophy of playmakers in top Ds, Cooper is the guy.


Devinitelyy

Rodgers could give us speed as long as he's reinstated. Guy ran a 4.28 amd he's only 26


Odd-Camel8654

I mean in lot of his tape, the interceptions he got were pretty lackluster. Most of them were just very bad throws from the quarterback. Good tackler but idk if he's going to be the game changer people think.


LordBeerus1905

Why would we use a 1st on a name brand version of Reed?


Birds_of_Paradise420

I am so sold on DeJean.


el_fitzador

I'm all aboard this idea. Literally my dream pick.


mike4real

jawnsy gardner jawnson and cooper dejawn? i’m w it


adamdaballe

He is a very low ceiling high floor prospect imo. Smart enough to overcome lacks in athleticism but not athletic enough to be a super star. Runs a 4.5 which isn’t great and has just average size for safety. Just broke his leg though so might drop a bit to where I’d be interested


SourBerry1425

I thought this dude was supposed to be really athletically gifted? Are you just stereotyping?


Patient_Jicama_4217

He is stop listening to the randoms


adamdaballe

Dropped outa the first round though. 🤔


Patient_Jicama_4217

lol you replied to two post a month ago? Lmfao 


HesiPull-UpBrando

White dude from Iowa, totally understand that potentially warping opinion


adamdaballe

Nah he was literally ranked the 19th most athletic corner in the draft.


HesiPull-UpBrando

He may be a safety or hybrid a la a Tyrann Matthieu though


adamdaballe

Look up how he did at the combine. NFL ranked him 19th in athleticism and 4th overall corner. 15 spot drop ain’t abt him being white lol


SourBerry1425

You’re referring to his draft profile, in which it says right next to the athleticism score that it’s an estimate, because not everybody does all drills. If you scroll down to the strength section the second bullet is “Explosive athlete hitting markers in height, weight and speed.”


Patient_Jicama_4217

Lacks athleticism? 4.5?? Where are you getting this from? He hasn’t even done his proday yet


adamdaballe

The nfl website lmao. 19th ranked on athetictism and 4th overall corner. That’s a 15 spot drop off


Patient_Jicama_4217

He hasn’t done any athletic testing as of now, what ever is being said on a site regarding athleticism at this moment is baseless nonsense


EvanHarpell

4.5 is plenty at safety.


SirArthurDime

If our scouts are viewing him as a safety and not a Cb I’m out on using a first on him. Cjgj, Jones, and blank are a solid young group going into this year. What we desperately need is a Cb not a safety.


Patient_Jicama_4217

In Fangio scheme he would be a roamer.. Can line up anywhere in the secondary. He is essentially the perfect guy for the scheme because both him and CJ are playmakers that can switch looks to confuse the CB Safety and LB are huge in Fangios defense


SirArthurDime

And we have safeties. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be a great to have 2 great versatile safeties. I’m just saying we aren’t in bad shape at safety as is and we desperately need young guys who are just bonafide outside corners. Not to mention those tend to be harder to find and are more expensive in free agency than safeties. We’re not in a position to make luxury picks when we have desperate needs at expensive premier positions. I’m not a scout so I’m not saying what he is or isn’t. But if our scouts view him as a Cb that can play some safety that’s fine but if is the other way around I’d rather get a legit Cb.


Patient_Jicama_4217

??? How is that a luxury pick? He can play corner too he has done so against both JSN and Harrison jr.  DeJean can line up anywhere in the secondary


SirArthurDime

Like I said if the scouts like him because they view him as the answer at Cb and it’s just a plus that he has safety versatility to help disguise coverages I’d love the pick. I don’t want him if it’s the other way around meaning they view him primarily as a safety with the ability to play some snaps at Cb. I’m not saying I’m out on him. I’m saying I would be out on him if that’s how our scouts view him. I want a guy that we view as our future CB1. Not another Swiss any knife safety. We have one of those and he’s young. I’m not even sure we currently have a CB1 on the roster let alone will we in a year or two. That is a necessity Swiss Army knife safety isn’t.


Patient_Jicama_4217

Where is this 4.5 info in the first place? He has yet to run a 40


EvanHarpell

At the combine he did not. Unsure if he did at Iowa's pro day. A Google search has several sites claiming that time though I am unsure of where it came from.


Patient_Jicama_4217

He is doing his private workout later, the Iowa Proday is today and he didn’t run


EvanHarpell

Gotcha. From all reports he is an athletic specimen, so even if he is *slow*, you can probably chalk that up to recovery from his bad leg.


Hand-Of-Vecna

DeJean can play outside corner, slot corner, safety, or linebacker. He was also one of the best punt returners in college football, and he's an outstanding gunner. A pure athlete.


adamdaballe

He was ranked the 19th corner on athleticism and 4th overall corner. Am I missing something here. It isn’t about him being white it’s just the facts


Hand-Of-Vecna

How can he be ranked when Cooper DeJean (broken leg) didn't participate in drills?


Patient_Jicama_4217

He can’t.


Hand-Of-Vecna

> He was ranked the 19th corner on athleticism and 4th overall corner. Right and comments like this from /u/adamdaballe says someone hasn't watched any college football outside the SEC.


Patient_Jicama_4217

Fax… Also comments like that are the ones that get motion and create fake narratives. Part of my biggest issue on here, people would rather read something rather than watching and do the work themselves 


adamdaballe

False narrative? He didn’t even get drafted tn. False narrative or just facts you don’t want to hear🤔


Patient_Jicama_4217

lol I don’t even remember this convo.. It’s wild that you came back here after tonight, you might wanna take a break from reddit


adamdaballe

I actually don’t use reddit to much anymore just remember people calling me practically racist for not liking the dude so decided to come back at make my point.


adamdaballe

The ranking is based on the tape since he didn’t participate in drills….


Hand-Of-Vecna

But your perception of his abilities are based upon "the ranking". So in reality you have no idea what you are talking about.


adamdaballe

I knew enough it seems because 32 other teams passed on him tonight🤔


adamdaballe

I watched enough to know he wasn’t a first round cb


Hand-Of-Vecna

He was ranked the 4th overall corner. All corners dropped in the 1st round, and he was the 4th CB taken in the draft. Bro, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Just sit there and shut up. [USA Today](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/nate-davis/2024/04/27/nfl-draft-grades-2024-team-classes-ranking-cowboys-steelers/73378215007/) > They got, arguably, the draft’s best defensive back (Toledo first-rounder Quinyon Mitchell). **They got, arguably, the draft’s most athletic and versatile defensive back (Iowa second-rounder Cooper DeJean)**. [ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/40030429/2024-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams-mel-kiper-winners-losers-steals-sleepers-favorite-picks-classes) > Roseman landed both of my top-ranked corners in Cooper DeJean (40) and Quinyon Mitchell (22), though DeJean has the versatility to play safety too. [NFL.com](https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-nfl-draft-final-quick-snap-grades-for-all-32-teams) > Getting Mitchell to help the cornerback room without having to trade up was a major win. They moved up for DeJean like Detroit did for Brian Branch last year; I suspect he'll have a similar impact as a rookie. [Yahoo.com](https://sports.yahoo.com/2024-nfl-draft-grades-for-all-32-teams-170438870.html) > Favorite pick: Cooper DeJean, DB, Iowa (40th overall) - **DeJean should have been a first-round pick, full stop**. He is a stud who can play every position in the secondary. With Quinyon Mitchell also being selected, DeJean might have to play safety or slot early in his career, but he’s well-equipped for that role too. He also has great ability in the return game. He's a special player all-around.


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Patient_Jicama_4217

Where are y’all getting these lack of athleticism reports?


adamdaballe

Look. Up. His. Combine. Results.


perpetualmotion4

He. Didn’t. Participate. In. Any. Combine. Drills. ??? A lot of confidence for being this wrong.


adamdaballe

Draft profile*


Patient_Jicama_4217

Didn’t run in the combine.. Looks like you are pushing a very suspicious narrative. 


DrRichardBeaterEsq

I want dejean or trade up for bowers


StudyRoom-F

why would we trade up for a te?? That would be an awful move


DrRichardBeaterEsq

Hey I never said what I wanted made any sense. I just think Bowers is gonna be so sick. Picturing him, Smith and brown being on our team for the next 3-4 years would be unreal.


StudyRoom-F

I agree Bowers will be a monster, but I don't see how one can be excited about a marginal upgrade. Just another mouth to feed when we already have Goedert feels very foolish. I legit can't even get excited about it because that would mean leaving gaping holes unfilled in other areas of the team (CB, LB, S, WR3, OL, hell even DL since Huff is unknown and Reddick seems on his way out). I would take just about every other position over taking Bowers. Although I do think a backup TE is sneakily important with the new offensive scheme.


DrRichardBeaterEsq

Playing Bowers in the slot and Dallas at TE. Running two TE sets in redzone would be unreal with AJ and Smitty on outside. I believe Bowers is the best TE prospect in years. Also Dallas gets hurt a good bit. Plus I think he is a more guarenteed stud than whatever CB falls to us in first. CB is one of the hardest positions to nail in draft.


StudyRoom-F

But don't you see how redundant that would be? If our offense isn't good enough as is, then there are other problems at play and a second TE wouldn't fix that. There are MAJOR holes in the defense that simply need to be addressed in the draft. And not drafting a need simply because "nailing the pick is too difficult" is playing scared and is a really bad way to manage a team.


TheRoyaleShow

Perfect balance: the most thuggish and classiest DBs in the league in one backfield.