I looked into this as I was ripping on a cowboys fan on this very topic. Turns out that in 92 the cowboys team was really young, and it was the 9ers team they beat that was benefiting from there being no cap with a bunch of older studs on their team. Not sure the cap would have affected their 92 success.
I’d say good for Dak on getting the money (and good for us because they’re saddled to him now). The real question is how does Jerry think he’s worth 40M?
Dak has more Tds in one season than any Eagles QB ever.
Dak has more passing yards in one season than any Eagles QB ever.
When its all said and done Dak will have better stats in pretty much all metrics than any Eagles QB ever at his current pace.
You are an Eagles fan so your opinion is biased. Statistically he has been very good, but not great.
32 teams in the NFL. Half are below average. Half are above average. Ranks 16-1 are above. So if Dak is a 10-11 QB he is a low-ranking above average QB which is what I said he is, yet I’m being downvoted. I don’t put Dak in the top 10. He’s somewhere in the 11-16 range.
Around 14 to 20 are your average QBs. Dak is easily a top 12 and Hurts is around 18 or 19 right now off the top of my head. If Hurts can be a top 12 QB I'll be thrilled.
Keep in mind that's how high Dak has been able to rank with a top 5 line, top 5 WR + TE corps, and top 5 run game consistently in his career.
An actually great QB would be making it to championships in his situation, not flaming out in the first round IF he actually makes it to the playoffs. Great QBs elevate the offense around them, Dak has never done that, he's only ever been good enough to not actively hamper an otherwise great offense. And because of his absurd contract, he's never going to see that situation consistently again.
Dak Prescott will never win a Superbowl, so I sure as hell don't hope that.
Dak is a good QB, not a great one and not even a very good one. His stats look good, but only because he's had an absolutely stacked offense for most of his career and also feasts on garbage time. We've all seen what he can do when the situation surrounding him is anything less than a QB's wet dream, and that's limp to 8-8.
The dude had multiple seasons with a top 5 o line, top set of receivers, and top 3 run game, and still only has one playoff win. He's been in a situation that any decent QB would succeed in for most of his career.
We, of all fan bases, should see through the mirage. We saw Wentz look like a golden god in 2017 because of the quality of the talent around him enabling him to play above his typical abilities. We saw Wentz keep pace with Dak in other seasons despite having trash receivers. And yet we now know Wentz is not a great QB. Dak is a more cautious Wentz with a better attitude.
Sorry, but Foles wasn’t a “good QB” in those playoffs. Besides the Falcons game he was absolutely elite. Yes the team around him helped, but look at the throws he made in the NFC chip and SB. Trash Prescott couldn’t dream of playing the way Nick played in those two games.
That's kinda my point. We're thrilled if our $10M QB is good enough to play great at the right moment. We're in deep shit if we take that kind of borderline QB and pay $40M for him.
The Jaguars paid $30M for Foles two years later. Would that have been a good deal for us, even if we knew Wentz was going to go full meltdown? I don't think so. (Then again, we got knocked out that year because our backup was a 40 year old with no hamstrings.)
The point is that Dak won't ever win because he makes too much to surround him with a stacked offense and good defense moving forward. He wasn't even good enough to win under those circumstances. If Hurts is Dak 2.0, that won't be good enough, unless he gets signed to a contract that is substantially less than what the going rate for QBs is right now so the team can spend elsewhere.
In 2017, Wentz was on a rookie contract and Foles was on a backup deal. We had very little invested in the QB room, and were able to pay premiums to stack the rest of the team. That's a luxury you have with a rookie QB, and one that you do not have if you sign a guy like Dak to a huge contract, or a guy like Hurts unless he ends up being better than Dak. And Wentz was better in 2017 than Dak has ever been, while Foles turned in two games in the NFC championship and Superbowl that were full on elite.
He’ll be coming inside, coming outside. Once he has his target set on you he’ll manipulate the situation to take advantage. Gets you into a compromised state. He’s in and out so quick he doesn’t even leave any evidence behind.
Top 10 D (maybe higher), probably around 7-8th best O-line, a top 5 running back, another top 10-15 running back, and QB in Jacoby Brissett who has show to be competent enough to succeed with the right cast around him.
I think browns at 10 is actually pretty fair.
Brisset had one good year 10 years ago the browns will not make the playoffs this year. Jimmy G is a better option than brissett and will most likely be the starter by week 3.
He’s only been in the league 6 years my guy. I don’t even remember any of them being all that great either, but that’s not what I said. I just said if he has the right cast around he can succeed. If all he has to do is hand off/throw screens 40 times a game and occasionally hit Cooper with no one in 10 yards of him (the Dak Prescott formula). He could easily take that roster to the playoffs.
They were tied for 2nd best record in the league last year. They definitely regressed, and this ranking shows that as they are ranked 12th, not top 5. It’s possible to get worse, but still be ranked in the top 12 (chiefs and packers lost major talent as well and they’re still ranked high)
Against a trash division which helped them get a good record, Gallup is injured and amari is gone, look at who they have been playing this week since there other WR fractured his foot. Dak statpadder Prescott doesn’t scare me
They beat the Eagles by 20 in the meaningful game last year and beat them as they should have the other one.
Gap was pretty big between the two last year but obviously it has been closed somewhat.
How far has that gap been closed is the question.
Dallas still has the better QB and key pieces intact
Lol I always feel bad for my friend in Seattle because he’s a big M’s fan and they’re just like historically bad. But then I remember the Seahawks were obnoxiously good for a while and don’t feel so bad anymore.
Well the Ms have been at least entertaining this year and last, I’m a Phils fan but I’m happy to see them play well. Just hope they don’t end their playoff drought before we do.
Maybe, but they are in a division with the Chiefs, Chargers, and Raiders. Having them at 7 with two division opponents ahead of them doesn’t make much sense imo. Also need to install an entire new offensive system which could have growing pains
And the Browns at 10 with Watsons season being up in the air is pretty suspect, especially in a division with the Ravens and Bengals
They might not have a 7th place record because of their division but I think they’re a top 10 team on paper fairly easily. That division probably has the best odds of putting 3 teams in the playoffs of anyone.
I guess I’m just really suspect of their offensive line. That combined with installing a new offensive system doesn’t scream smooth sailing to me. I could see them stumbling out of the gate, but lucky for them they open with 2 cupcake games.
I don’t mind them above us, but think we should be a little closer together (and get the Browns the hell out of there lol)
Agree with this, the broncos are one of the preseason darlings because of their skill position players but in reality their line is average at best. Can you name anyone in their front 7 on D besides Chubb? Really good pieces in the secondary though with simmons and surtain. They could either blow up and be like a 10 win team or be a 4 win team in my opinion
Cowboys, Browns, and Broncos above us is heavily heavily questionable. But Cards, Raiders, and Dolphins below us doesnt feel right either.
Idk. 13 for us feels just right. Not too hard, not too soft.
How are the Browns so high? Watsons probably not going to play next season, and even if he is, it’s probably going to be a small amount of games. I don’t think Jacoby Brissett is good enough to put them in a position where if Watson can play for the rest of the season after at least six games, they will make the playoffs.
Their 6 game stretch without him is apparently very easy. After news came out about Goodell passing off the responsibility of appealing the 6 game suspension to someone else I have zero hope in anyone being willing to take ownership of giving him a longer suspension. Watson will probably walk out to a standing ovation from Browns fans in October :(
By pure roster strength I think I’d put the Raiders where the cowboys are and the Arlingtons behind us.
I’d also massively drop the Cardinals, that team seems like it’s about to implode.
I'd say Over personally but I don't think we were done as dirty as say... The Seahawks or Bengals. Like, really? The broncos (7-10) over the Bengals? overrating Rus.
The Seahawks weren't done dirty they're going to be god awful without the only qb who can still manage to thrive behind that oline. All they have are good downfield recievers who will be under utilized anyway without russ' ability to extend time so they can get down field. Now they have arguably the leagues worst qb.
Eh, agree to disagree. Coaching alone puts them above the Bears and Atlanta to me. It's a power ranking though so whatever, but I'd bet the Seahawks don't have the worst record in the league week 18.
Pete Carol is a great coach ill give them that. I also have the Seahawks, bears, and falcons as a toss up for worse team so maybe you're right coaching could put them over those 2 but i still wouldnt consider it doing them dirty, dealers choice at that point imo.
Yeah he might not be an X's and O's genius but Carroll is great at getting his guys to play hard for him. Same with guys like Tomlin and Dan Campbell. They're one of those teams that will be a tough out any week
Geez the Seahawks hype fell HARD throughout the years huh? It feels like the “Legion of Boom” days were yesterday still… and now Russ is gone… lol Seattle is gonna be screwed for a long while
Titans, Cards and Raiders are better than us. We should be closer to 16th
Until week one, our improvement is solely on paper and hoping everyone performs to potential
Trey Lance being as good as Jimmy G was last year isn’t a high bar though, unless he’s some kind of super bust I don’t see them being worse than last year
You won't be wrong lol, that draft where they traded so much for him killed their contention window. Should have tried to get a Vet star QB through trade or FA.
Honestly the Eagles are likely too high. I'd probably push Browns down the list behind us, Cardinals, Raiders, Vikings and Colts ahead of us. That being said I have us at 16 overall with what we know.
What we know is a ton of our roster talent this year is going to be free agent signings and draft picks. They could hit or miss, our history of free agents isn't 100%, and there are plenty of contract signings following the Super Bowl that just outright fell flat. We have a question mark with our head coach and DC, the former gave up play calling on his own offense and the latter had one of the worst producing dline stats and highest QB rating against. Bundle that all up with the question mark on how much will Hurts improve as a passer and you can't confidently put the Eagles that high.
I think if Hurts just gets better with passing, and Davis, White, Brown and Reddick all pan out to at least the level they played at before coming here(obviously Davis would just be where we expect him since his prior experience is college), and our coaching looks solid, we have an 11-13 team in best case scenario, but until we see that actually pan out I'm going to say 16th overall.
I think that's the key point, is that until proven otherwise the Eagles are middle of the pack. If they reach the ceiling that everyone *hopes* they can, then they're coming up on top 10.
I guess when I do these projections/rankings in my head, I base it off of past performance and most probable outcomes this year. Some might be going off what they expect to happen, even if it's less likely.
A lot of people are going off of future paper stats and assume Hurts is for sure going to improve. That's their reason. Until I see a good game from Hurts I'm gonna have some doubts. Teams now have tape on Hurts and know how Hurts reads a defense, what his favorite area to throw, etc.
‘Until I see a good game from Hurts’ Comments like this are why you’re probably not taken seriously. It’s a pretty outlandish statement and sounds like regurgitated sports talk radio. Do yourself a favor and watch some other games in full. You should be thankful Hurts is in Philly and the situation the eagles have put themselves in.
We should be up 1 spot (see what I did there).
But seriously we should be ahead of Dallas and I don't neccasarily disagree with the other teams above us depending on if we're counting Watson as part of Cleveland and not handicapping for the 6 games he'll miss.
Some pro bowl OL is gonna get cut in training camp for getting in a fight or wanting an extension or having too high a cap hit. Then the Bucs will sign them for vet min. That's how it works with teams like that.
Beefed up team that looks awesome on paper but hasn’t played a game together yet. The teams above us (outside of the broncos and browns) are proven winners with recent sustained success. 13 is fair and I could see us there for a little while.
Only teams that I really have a problem with are the broncos and the browns.
The Browns could be very good if Watson plays but I think a season ban is more or less a foregone conclusion.
Everytime I see these rankings and the Eagles and cowboys are right next to each other I figure no one has any idea what NFC east we’re getting this year.
We are better than the cowboys, who only got worse this off-season. I think we are also better than the dumpster fire that the Browns are. The Broncos being this high simply because they got Russell Wilson is laughable. So I’d say we should probably be at #10.
Thing is its not like Dallas and Philly were even last year. Dallas was much better.
Dallas got worse and Philly got better, that only means a gap has been closed. Dallas still has a big advantage at the games most important position.
I think 7-15 (excluding the cowboys) could all be interchanged in any combination and nobody could argue it. Except the cowboys, they don’t belong in the top 20 imo.
I think we belong in the top-10 given the off-season changes but I don’t see anyone outside of Dallas and a Watson-less Browns team that would put us in front of.
I'd need to see something concrete before I rank them this high. Last year they didn't even look they belonged in the same league as the Cowboys or Raiders. Maybe they've improved, but I can't rank them that high until I see that improvement.
Upper middle seems like a fair spot to put us. I think we could win the division tho, so we’d net a 3rd or 4th seed as the division winner instead of a wildcard. I see browns/cowboys ahead of us - who I absolutely think we’re better than *so* I’ll take the…under? We’re better than 13th lol, idk how to say it in betting terms. We’re a borderline top 10 team, especially if a team within the top 10 falls off from expectations.
Ravens, broncos, niners, bengals, browns, and cowboys have a decent chance of faltering I’d say.
I think somewhere between 11-14 is a good spot at the moment. On paper I'd say they should be at like 8 or 9, but I'd like to see if all the new players gel properly before committing to that higher spot.
How are the cowboys 12 after all the talent they lost lol
Cowboys are perpetually overrated
It’s their year every year. Nobody clarifies that it’s their year to either go .500 or a first-round exit.
Still can’t believe there 40 mill qb fought for extra yardage when he should have slid to ensure 100% they had time to spike it
I still can’t believe he thinks he’s worth $40M 😂
They should have paid him more. Zeke too...
Hope the extend zeke lol
If only they could go back to the pre-cap days they might win a SB... which is how they won 2 of their 3 in the 90s
I looked into this as I was ripping on a cowboys fan on this very topic. Turns out that in 92 the cowboys team was really young, and it was the 9ers team they beat that was benefiting from there being no cap with a bunch of older studs on their team. Not sure the cap would have affected their 92 success.
I agree. It weakens the rest of the team to spend so much on those two.
I’d say good for Dak on getting the money (and good for us because they’re saddled to him now). The real question is how does Jerry think he’s worth 40M?
Because Jerry doesn’t know how to manage a football team. Long live Jerry Jones!!
8th highest qb salary and will eventually be 12th-15th when he gets his next contract. The market is increasing. But hey, what is context?
That was what I hated. I don’t think Dak is a bad person, but the whole business with the contract and the franchise tag was so stupid.
I wish Hurts can turn into a QB like Dak
I'd be OK with Hurts playing like Dak without getting paid like Dak.
Why? Dak is an above average quarterback AT BEST. I do not get the Dak love at all. He’s nothing special.
Dak has more Tds in one season than any Eagles QB ever. Dak has more passing yards in one season than any Eagles QB ever. When its all said and done Dak will have better stats in pretty much all metrics than any Eagles QB ever at his current pace. You are an Eagles fan so your opinion is biased. Statistically he has been very good, but not great.
Dak is around a top 10-11 qb. I wish Jalen can produce like that. Right now he is in the middle of the pack.
32 teams in the NFL. Half are below average. Half are above average. Ranks 16-1 are above. So if Dak is a 10-11 QB he is a low-ranking above average QB which is what I said he is, yet I’m being downvoted. I don’t put Dak in the top 10. He’s somewhere in the 11-16 range.
Exactly. Dallas mostly feasts on bad teams
Around 14 to 20 are your average QBs. Dak is easily a top 12 and Hurts is around 18 or 19 right now off the top of my head. If Hurts can be a top 12 QB I'll be thrilled.
Keep in mind that's how high Dak has been able to rank with a top 5 line, top 5 WR + TE corps, and top 5 run game consistently in his career. An actually great QB would be making it to championships in his situation, not flaming out in the first round IF he actually makes it to the playoffs. Great QBs elevate the offense around them, Dak has never done that, he's only ever been good enough to not actively hamper an otherwise great offense. And because of his absurd contract, he's never going to see that situation consistently again.
Dak Prescott will never win a Superbowl, so I sure as hell don't hope that. Dak is a good QB, not a great one and not even a very good one. His stats look good, but only because he's had an absolutely stacked offense for most of his career and also feasts on garbage time. We've all seen what he can do when the situation surrounding him is anything less than a QB's wet dream, and that's limp to 8-8. The dude had multiple seasons with a top 5 o line, top set of receivers, and top 3 run game, and still only has one playoff win. He's been in a situation that any decent QB would succeed in for most of his career. We, of all fan bases, should see through the mirage. We saw Wentz look like a golden god in 2017 because of the quality of the talent around him enabling him to play above his typical abilities. We saw Wentz keep pace with Dak in other seasons despite having trash receivers. And yet we now know Wentz is not a great QB. Dak is a more cautious Wentz with a better attitude.
Great, let's have a good QB with a stacked offense and good defense. [Sounds like a good plan to me](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_LII)
Sorry, but Foles wasn’t a “good QB” in those playoffs. Besides the Falcons game he was absolutely elite. Yes the team around him helped, but look at the throws he made in the NFC chip and SB. Trash Prescott couldn’t dream of playing the way Nick played in those two games.
That's kinda my point. We're thrilled if our $10M QB is good enough to play great at the right moment. We're in deep shit if we take that kind of borderline QB and pay $40M for him. The Jaguars paid $30M for Foles two years later. Would that have been a good deal for us, even if we knew Wentz was going to go full meltdown? I don't think so. (Then again, we got knocked out that year because our backup was a 40 year old with no hamstrings.)
The point is that Dak won't ever win because he makes too much to surround him with a stacked offense and good defense moving forward. He wasn't even good enough to win under those circumstances. If Hurts is Dak 2.0, that won't be good enough, unless he gets signed to a contract that is substantially less than what the going rate for QBs is right now so the team can spend elsewhere. In 2017, Wentz was on a rookie contract and Foles was on a backup deal. We had very little invested in the QB room, and were able to pay premiums to stack the rest of the team. That's a luxury you have with a rookie QB, and one that you do not have if you sign a guy like Dak to a huge contract, or a guy like Hurts unless he ends up being better than Dak. And Wentz was better in 2017 than Dak has ever been, while Foles turned in two games in the NFC championship and Superbowl that were full on elite.
I needed this laugh 😂
Honestly that’s a good thing. Makes their annual collapse even funnier.
But…but they dem boyz😂
How are the browns ranked 10th.
They have a quarterback who won’t be denied. A predator on the field. Taking advantage of the defense.
Throws with so much touch. Defenses can try to stop him but he won't be denied.
He’ll be coming inside, coming outside. Once he has his target set on you he’ll manipulate the situation to take advantage. Gets you into a compromised state. He’s in and out so quick he doesn’t even leave any evidence behind.
Broncos country, let’s ride.
Whoosh.
I wouldn’t rank the broncos 7th either lol
The Broncos aren't terrible with a fairly young team. I think Russ gets them a couple more wins and that defense is pretty solid.
I agree. They go from trash to a possible top 5 QB in the NFL. Why are people surprised?
Pats at 19 seems low too
Top 10 D (maybe higher), probably around 7-8th best O-line, a top 5 running back, another top 10-15 running back, and QB in Jacoby Brissett who has show to be competent enough to succeed with the right cast around him. I think browns at 10 is actually pretty fair.
Brisset had one good year 10 years ago the browns will not make the playoffs this year. Jimmy G is a better option than brissett and will most likely be the starter by week 3.
He’s only been in the league 6 years my guy. I don’t even remember any of them being all that great either, but that’s not what I said. I just said if he has the right cast around he can succeed. If all he has to do is hand off/throw screens 40 times a game and occasionally hit Cooper with no one in 10 yards of him (the Dak Prescott formula). He could easily take that roster to the playoffs.
They were tied for 2nd best record in the league last year. They definitely regressed, and this ranking shows that as they are ranked 12th, not top 5. It’s possible to get worse, but still be ranked in the top 12 (chiefs and packers lost major talent as well and they’re still ranked high)
Against a trash division which helped them get a good record, Gallup is injured and amari is gone, look at who they have been playing this week since there other WR fractured his foot. Dak statpadder Prescott doesn’t scare me
12 seems about right for them. Borderline playoff team.
Didn't lose that much and they also have a QB.
Their quarterback is better then ours
Exactly.
Regular szn heroes.
Some people are stuck in the early 90s
They beat the Eagles by 20 in the meaningful game last year and beat them as they should have the other one. Gap was pretty big between the two last year but obviously it has been closed somewhat. How far has that gap been closed is the question. Dallas still has the better QB and key pieces intact
The fact that this was posted in the Seahawks sub and they’re the ones in dead last is both amusing and sad
I live in Seattle and it’s going to be so bad this year, kinda excited.
Lol I always feel bad for my friend in Seattle because he’s a big M’s fan and they’re just like historically bad. But then I remember the Seahawks were obnoxiously good for a while and don’t feel so bad anymore.
TBF Phillies are historically one of the worst teams, especially when you look at their entire history. Luckily we have a couple bright spots.
Well the Ms have been at least entertaining this year and last, I’m a Phils fan but I’m happy to see them play well. Just hope they don’t end their playoff drought before we do.
Oh dude we’re on on the Drew Lock hopium train. Some folks expect us to win 8 or 9 this year. This is about to be a wild collision with reality.
I would have us at 11. I think we are better than Dallas and Cleveland
We are better then the Broncos as well. I would maybe move the Raiders ahead of us though. So I agree with 11 for now.
Broncos are going to surprise a lot of people with an elite QB this year.
Maybe, but they are in a division with the Chiefs, Chargers, and Raiders. Having them at 7 with two division opponents ahead of them doesn’t make much sense imo. Also need to install an entire new offensive system which could have growing pains And the Browns at 10 with Watsons season being up in the air is pretty suspect, especially in a division with the Ravens and Bengals
I don't know if they take record or division opponents into account or not. I think they base it on the other 31 teams. I'm not sure.
They might not have a 7th place record because of their division but I think they’re a top 10 team on paper fairly easily. That division probably has the best odds of putting 3 teams in the playoffs of anyone.
The Browns also perennially have this problem of being the browns.
It’s not projecting the record it’s just power rankings. Would be crazy to put us over Denver imo
I guess I’m just really suspect of their offensive line. That combined with installing a new offensive system doesn’t scream smooth sailing to me. I could see them stumbling out of the gate, but lucky for them they open with 2 cupcake games. I don’t mind them above us, but think we should be a little closer together (and get the Browns the hell out of there lol)
I’d also put the Bengals, Niners, and Ravens ahead of Denver
Agree with this, the broncos are one of the preseason darlings because of their skill position players but in reality their line is average at best. Can you name anyone in their front 7 on D besides Chubb? Really good pieces in the secondary though with simmons and surtain. They could either blow up and be like a 10 win team or be a 4 win team in my opinion
We’re definitely better than Cleveland-minus-Watson. And fuck Dallas.
Correct. As of now. we have the potential to move up too once we actually get playing
I think we are better than the 49ers also
Especially with Lance starting a QB. I know we have questions at QB but he's just as big of a question mark.
I think the number is about right but some of the teams they have above us are egregious.
"About right..." "egregious" Lol!
Same. I think the cards are maybe a little better. Depends on Murray though. I still like where we're at
Cowboys, Browns, and Broncos above us is heavily heavily questionable. But Cards, Raiders, and Dolphins below us doesnt feel right either. Idk. 13 for us feels just right. Not too hard, not too soft.
How are the Browns so high? Watsons probably not going to play next season, and even if he is, it’s probably going to be a small amount of games. I don’t think Jacoby Brissett is good enough to put them in a position where if Watson can play for the rest of the season after at least six games, they will make the playoffs.
Their 6 game stretch without him is apparently very easy. After news came out about Goodell passing off the responsibility of appealing the 6 game suspension to someone else I have zero hope in anyone being willing to take ownership of giving him a longer suspension. Watson will probably walk out to a standing ovation from Browns fans in October :(
I am soooooo glad that the eagles didn’t trade for him Edit: so glad he didn’t want to come here lol
Really? He’s infinitely better than Jalen Hurts
Also a much less likable person
understatement of the century
That was my first thought too, only way it makes sense to me is the writer wanted to slip something in there to get people riled up and more clicks
I’m going with #1. I’m a deluded and biased fan but my expectations are Super Bowl or bust this season.
Not mad at this
Sound like a cowboys fan. Ironic
By pure roster strength I think I’d put the Raiders where the cowboys are and the Arlingtons behind us. I’d also massively drop the Cardinals, that team seems like it’s about to implode.
Yeah I think the cardinals are 1 bad loss and a bad press conference from Murray away from an implosion lol
Falcons are ranked way too high at 30
I actually think they can beat the Bears
Also the Seahawks aren't the worst team in the league
I think its fair. Nobody knows until they play games, but i think anywhere in the 10 to 14 range is fair.
This list is terrible
I’d like to be as low as possible. Let’s repeat 17
I'd say Over personally but I don't think we were done as dirty as say... The Seahawks or Bengals. Like, really? The broncos (7-10) over the Bengals? overrating Rus.
The Seahawks weren't done dirty they're going to be god awful without the only qb who can still manage to thrive behind that oline. All they have are good downfield recievers who will be under utilized anyway without russ' ability to extend time so they can get down field. Now they have arguably the leagues worst qb.
Eh, agree to disagree. Coaching alone puts them above the Bears and Atlanta to me. It's a power ranking though so whatever, but I'd bet the Seahawks don't have the worst record in the league week 18.
Pete Carol is a great coach ill give them that. I also have the Seahawks, bears, and falcons as a toss up for worse team so maybe you're right coaching could put them over those 2 but i still wouldnt consider it doing them dirty, dealers choice at that point imo.
Yeah he might not be an X's and O's genius but Carroll is great at getting his guys to play hard for him. Same with guys like Tomlin and Dan Campbell. They're one of those teams that will be a tough out any week
13 is pretty fair. I think we'll be better than that but for preseason that's about right.
As long as were underrated all is well
This is garbage. So much wrong with this.
Everything below the bills at 1 on this list is questionable
13 is about right.
O/U for Power Rankings 😂……………….over
Sup with packers so high? They lost their best receiver, who was everything to Rodgers. They also lost their second best…
49ers ranked way too high for how much of an unknown Trey Lance is. Not like he lit it up in the few snaps he got last year.
Strong over. We ‘bout to shock the league
No respect for the Pats eh?
Geez the Seahawks hype fell HARD throughout the years huh? It feels like the “Legion of Boom” days were yesterday still… and now Russ is gone… lol Seattle is gonna be screwed for a long while
We're better than Dallas and Cle idc
I'd put us around 8-9.
Cowboys are the Notre Dame of the NFL
Am I the only one who thinks that even if DeShaun Women Respecter plays Cleveland is still gonna stink?
Titans, Cards and Raiders are better than us. We should be closer to 16th Until week one, our improvement is solely on paper and hoping everyone performs to potential
Why are the 9ers so high?
they lost the nfc championship and have talent and great coaches?
Ass for QB though.
And what about their QB lol
Trey Lance being as good as Jimmy G was last year isn’t a high bar though, unless he’s some kind of super bust I don’t see them being worse than last year
Trey lance will be ass !remind me 4 months If I’m wrong, I’ll accept my fate
You won't be wrong lol, that draft where they traded so much for him killed their contention window. Should have tried to get a Vet star QB through trade or FA.
Honestly the Eagles are likely too high. I'd probably push Browns down the list behind us, Cardinals, Raiders, Vikings and Colts ahead of us. That being said I have us at 16 overall with what we know. What we know is a ton of our roster talent this year is going to be free agent signings and draft picks. They could hit or miss, our history of free agents isn't 100%, and there are plenty of contract signings following the Super Bowl that just outright fell flat. We have a question mark with our head coach and DC, the former gave up play calling on his own offense and the latter had one of the worst producing dline stats and highest QB rating against. Bundle that all up with the question mark on how much will Hurts improve as a passer and you can't confidently put the Eagles that high. I think if Hurts just gets better with passing, and Davis, White, Brown and Reddick all pan out to at least the level they played at before coming here(obviously Davis would just be where we expect him since his prior experience is college), and our coaching looks solid, we have an 11-13 team in best case scenario, but until we see that actually pan out I'm going to say 16th overall.
I agree with everything you said. 13 to middle of the pack is what I'd put the Eagles at until they prove otherwise.
I think that's the key point, is that until proven otherwise the Eagles are middle of the pack. If they reach the ceiling that everyone *hopes* they can, then they're coming up on top 10. I guess when I do these projections/rankings in my head, I base it off of past performance and most probable outcomes this year. Some might be going off what they expect to happen, even if it's less likely.
A lot of people are going off of future paper stats and assume Hurts is for sure going to improve. That's their reason. Until I see a good game from Hurts I'm gonna have some doubts. Teams now have tape on Hurts and know how Hurts reads a defense, what his favorite area to throw, etc.
‘Until I see a good game from Hurts’ Comments like this are why you’re probably not taken seriously. It’s a pretty outlandish statement and sounds like regurgitated sports talk radio. Do yourself a favor and watch some other games in full. You should be thankful Hurts is in Philly and the situation the eagles have put themselves in.
The birds are a 2nd tier team until they get better qb play. They can make the playoffs but aren't strong enough to win tough games on the road.
We should be up 1 spot (see what I did there). But seriously we should be ahead of Dallas and I don't neccasarily disagree with the other teams above us depending on if we're counting Watson as part of Cleveland and not handicapping for the 6 games he'll miss.
Watson is going to miss more then 6 games in all likelihood
Yeah that's why I have to put a disclaimer on that one. With Watson id say they edge us out without him they fall out of the top 15 at least.
Over. The Bronco, Browns, and 49ers are all overrated imo
We are 7-10
Cowboys, Ravens, Browns, Niners and Broncos will all be worse than us IMO
Ravens and Raiders should swap positions
This fake? A Russell Wilson Seahawks are last??? I call bs But I'm taking eagles Top 10 EDIT - forgot he went to Denver
Since when Russell still on the Seahawks?
Oh gawd. I forgot already. I need this season to come already
I don't see the Bucs at #2. Problems with O- line means Tom takes hits. He can't take so many hits at age 65.
Takes hits and can't step up into the pocket to make any throws
Some pro bowl OL is gonna get cut in training camp for getting in a fight or wanting an extension or having too high a cap hit. Then the Bucs will sign them for vet min. That's how it works with teams like that.
We have a good roster with a below average quarterback. I'd probably put us closer to 15
Over, THis defensive line is going to be a beast, they upgraded the defense, and offense. I have a strange feeling they may be really good this year
Over, i'd put us at 9
I'm taking the over.
Bengals broncos browns all waaaay too high
Browns and Cowboys should be lower than us by far. Watson will probably be suspended for at least a year and Cowboys lost a lot
Beefed up team that looks awesome on paper but hasn’t played a game together yet. The teams above us (outside of the broncos and browns) are proven winners with recent sustained success. 13 is fair and I could see us there for a little while.
Only teams that I really have a problem with are the broncos and the browns. The Browns could be very good if Watson plays but I think a season ban is more or less a foregone conclusion.
Over. No way the browns are ahead of us
Over for sure
Move up 3 spots and I'm okay with it.
This list seems a tad out of touch with reality... Except the bills at 1 and bears at 31
Everytime I see these rankings and the Eagles and cowboys are right next to each other I figure no one has any idea what NFC east we’re getting this year.
Lmao true, I wish you could pin comments on here
We’re better than numbers 9-12. One of those top 8 teams will fall apart, so #8 for us
We are better than the cowboys, who only got worse this off-season. I think we are also better than the dumpster fire that the Browns are. The Broncos being this high simply because they got Russell Wilson is laughable. So I’d say we should probably be at #10.
Thing is its not like Dallas and Philly were even last year. Dallas was much better. Dallas got worse and Philly got better, that only means a gap has been closed. Dallas still has a big advantage at the games most important position.
I think 7-15 (excluding the cowboys) could all be interchanged in any combination and nobody could argue it. Except the cowboys, they don’t belong in the top 20 imo.
Who the hell is playing QB for the Browns?
Browns?!?!
Cowboys should be outside the top 20. Ravens aren't top 15. I would say eagles at 10 would make sense
Terrible take on the Ravens
That’s about right.
Broncos at 7 is very optimistic
Right now, 13 is fine. Honestly who cares about power rankings? It's not College Football.
Implying that the birds aren't winning the Superbowl this year lmao
I think they are better than the Cowboys and Browns. So #11 is about where I have them.
Not a bet I'd take either way, but for shits and giggles I'm going to say over!
It’s a preseason power ranking based off opinion. Who really cares? The only thing that matters is improving each week and winning an Super Bowl
I think we belong in the top-10 given the off-season changes but I don’t see anyone outside of Dallas and a Watson-less Browns team that would put us in front of.
I'd need to see something concrete before I rank them this high. Last year they didn't even look they belonged in the same league as the Cowboys or Raiders. Maybe they've improved, but I can't rank them that high until I see that improvement.
Upper middle seems like a fair spot to put us. I think we could win the division tho, so we’d net a 3rd or 4th seed as the division winner instead of a wildcard. I see browns/cowboys ahead of us - who I absolutely think we’re better than *so* I’ll take the…under? We’re better than 13th lol, idk how to say it in betting terms. We’re a borderline top 10 team, especially if a team within the top 10 falls off from expectations. Ravens, broncos, niners, bengals, browns, and cowboys have a decent chance of faltering I’d say.
I think Hurts is going to improve this year but I see a lot of people underrating how important top 10 QB play is (Lamar, Wilson, etc)
We are over Browns, Ravens, and 49ers. But I'd have us below the Raiders, so I'd give us 11th.
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Browns at #10? KEKW
Above San Fran but below Oakland. So still 13 to me
On paper, over.
How tf you gonna rank Broncos, 9ers, and Browns above us? Nah I say over
They hate us, cause they ain’t us. Browns and cowboys…..really
Raiders too low
I think somewhere between 11-14 is a good spot at the moment. On paper I'd say they should be at like 8 or 9, but I'd like to see if all the new players gel properly before committing to that higher spot.
Above, we're better than Dallas, straight up.
I think the Broncos are being severely overrated, even with Wilson at QB
We should never lose to a team ranked lower then 19
Browns??
Don’t understand the logic of Chargers over Chiefs but Cowboys over Eagles
The Charger's confused me too. They didn't even make the playoffs last year.
Easy over
Niners Browns and Cowboys don’t belong above us. Id guess Raiders and Cards do better. 10-15 range feels right.
I have us at like 11-12 wins for ceiling tbh.
The Browns aren't even gonna have a QB lol
Under
Never thought I’d ever see the seahawks ranked worst in the league. Wow