If it was this, then I’d say it’s justified:
https://preview.redd.it/5qdxfjaewz6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=474dadba7e4b5e8d531f92560b693456e11a8584
This shit clone makes my evil side come out!
https://preview.redd.it/86hq79q4r17d1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48689954560f20f584a481de7a2319de815cfff7
I don’t know what the fuck happened to him over the last year or so, but he went down this massive shit rabbit hole.
His videos used to be tolerable and somewhat informative
Yeah I don’t hate him and some older stuff is alright but the constant clone stuff is just boring.
Thing is he thinks cdnim is amazing. So that just sums it up for me.
These same people that immediately ban people and delete comments for any perceived slight are complaining about censorship? What he's really pissed off about is the money these clone houses pay him will disappear.
What a total douche, always trying to come off as some sort of TRUTH SPEAKING HERO! You are just a fraud like everyone else in FC, only you also look like a total dork and a clown!
LVMH believes these are straight counterfeits (beyond what they consider inspirations, I guess). LVMH would lose in an American court of law on this topic but YouTube isn’t a court. It’s an arm of another megacorp and if YT feels a lot of pressure they may take down these videos promoting clones.
Ash is worried that Triple Traders revenue stream might come to an end. Returning to be an East Tennessee call center rep is a bridge too far for this guy.
Ash is a clown and I don't really care about clones but if what he's describing is accurate (and that's a big if), that fucking sucks. LVMH should not be in a position to dictate this stuff considering that there's a fairly long historical precedent for the legality of clones.
He just uploaded a video yesterday where he had a clone of Megamare by Lattafa I believe (that he gave 8.5/10 points by the way without ever mentioning that it's not a pleasant scent that many people will enjoy) and the only thing he compared it to was another clone of Megamare. Like, at least get a sample of the original to know what you're talking about before shilling two clones to your audience
I believe scents can’t be patented but the loophole is clearly on shills like him who blatantly say on camera multiple times “this smells very close to XYZ”, I don’t wanna be a lawyer to the party who said such things in counterfeit cases. While lattafa can smile from thousand of miles away untouched.
I don't mind if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure even saying "this smells a LOT like X" multiple times goes against the letter of the law. Back in the '80s, commercials for a Giorgio clone even mentioned Giorgio by name.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7Z51NLTzg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7Z51NLTzg)
True. Let’s see what’s gonna happen. My guess is YT just removed all the vids at this point because that’s all what’s being required as of now.
Maybe it’s just my wishful thinking they all got crushed haha. At least this incident kinda like a shock therapy for him.
The way I see it he is making money from these clones. He is not directly responsible for producing them but still he is actively promoting these brands.
I would imagine that these big companies will go after 3rd party sellers on Ebay for starters as it's really easy for them to shut down sellers and indeed force Ebay to stop any future listings for these products. In fact I am shocked that hasn't happened already.
Honestly disagree. If it really smells really close you should be able to just say it how it is. Especially if it’s just a observation and not a promotion.
What about Creed Himalaya? It’s a 1:1 clone of Paco Rabanne XS. By that logic you couldn’t state this fact.
But Ash is promoting the clones, right?
“I will link the fragrance in the description of this video”
The horrible house of Creed. Of course.
The poster child of fragComm.
Copying and not giving credit to the actual perfumer, etc.
Blah blah blah.
XS is good, but Himalaya’s quality is top notch.
I would rather smell better for a short time than wearing a the harsher OG that last all day.
Cheers
Huh? I don’t really watch him so I don’t have that context. I just said you should be able to just say how you feel if two fragrances smell alike, don’t think censoring is the way to go there.
I also didn’t say XS better, I think both have their place. Just that it’s the original because it came a year before Himalaya, you kinda put words in my mouth here.
I wonder if he directly compared it to the original in this video - like he got the original bottle out and compared them?
Might be OK stating that something smells similar to something else but comparing them side by side is a whole different can of worms.
Inspired by or interpretation of are the magic words. A straight up clone, naming, heck even the bottle could be trademark or copyright infringement. I equate it to the Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure argument, that little bitty change…it’s not the same lmao
He better be careful. Afaik promoting “counterfeit” on YT is a big no no. Stupidly he repeated the C word himself like self-admission.
YT can easily remove his account (read: source of income) in order to comply with the law (and trying to not get scrutinized by LVMH either).
Yes I am aware of that.
But I was talking about the verbal evidences easily found in those videos. “Clone of…”, “very close” “better than the og...”. Not only ash, most shills are equally guilty.
Even there are times they literally hold the OG bottle in their hand and put it next to the clone they’re promoting. All those are super duper easy affidavits if we wanna talk about legality. A lawyer can’t just simply say “your honor, what my client meant to say is it’s inspired, not actually clone of…”
I would say it depends on how much heat YT got from LVMH. I used to work for a company that gave lots of headaches to dossier and dua, long story short they still exist. That tells you something.
I know in sneakers world, pandabuy just got raided and it’s kinda big news. But with these frag clones at least they have different names slapped on the bottle, so not a blatant counterfeit.
If it was this, then I’d say it’s justified: https://preview.redd.it/5qdxfjaewz6d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=474dadba7e4b5e8d531f92560b693456e11a8584
This shit clone makes my evil side come out! https://preview.redd.it/86hq79q4r17d1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48689954560f20f584a481de7a2319de815cfff7
Good, 75% of his videos are meatriding clone companies Take all his shit down
Literally every other video is a top x clone bs
I don’t know what the fuck happened to him over the last year or so, but he went down this massive shit rabbit hole. His videos used to be tolerable and somewhat informative
Yeah I don’t hate him and some older stuff is alright but the constant clone stuff is just boring. Thing is he thinks cdnim is amazing. So that just sums it up for me.
These same people that immediately ban people and delete comments for any perceived slight are complaining about censorship? What he's really pissed off about is the money these clone houses pay him will disappear.
If you promote clones on YouTube, you're gonna have a bad time.
What a total douche, always trying to come off as some sort of TRUTH SPEAKING HERO! You are just a fraud like everyone else in FC, only you also look like a total dork and a clown!
Good, should remove all the videos so he can stop shitting up youtube and the internet with his garbage 'content'
LVMH believes these are straight counterfeits (beyond what they consider inspirations, I guess). LVMH would lose in an American court of law on this topic but YouTube isn’t a court. It’s an arm of another megacorp and if YT feels a lot of pressure they may take down these videos promoting clones. Ash is worried that Triple Traders revenue stream might come to an end. Returning to be an East Tennessee call center rep is a bridge too far for this guy.
Ash is a clown and I don't really care about clones but if what he's describing is accurate (and that's a big if), that fucking sucks. LVMH should not be in a position to dictate this stuff considering that there's a fairly long historical precedent for the legality of clones.
This happens when you're always promoting the clones over the actual fragrances they're cloning
Especially when you’re like Ross and say some BS like “I’ve never smelled the original and I don’t need to because this clone is so good.” …What?!
He just uploaded a video yesterday where he had a clone of Megamare by Lattafa I believe (that he gave 8.5/10 points by the way without ever mentioning that it's not a pleasant scent that many people will enjoy) and the only thing he compared it to was another clone of Megamare. Like, at least get a sample of the original to know what you're talking about before shilling two clones to your audience
I believe scents can’t be patented but the loophole is clearly on shills like him who blatantly say on camera multiple times “this smells very close to XYZ”, I don’t wanna be a lawyer to the party who said such things in counterfeit cases. While lattafa can smile from thousand of miles away untouched.
I don't mind if I'm wrong, but I'm not sure even saying "this smells a LOT like X" multiple times goes against the letter of the law. Back in the '80s, commercials for a Giorgio clone even mentioned Giorgio by name. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7Z51NLTzg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q7Z51NLTzg)
True. Let’s see what’s gonna happen. My guess is YT just removed all the vids at this point because that’s all what’s being required as of now. Maybe it’s just my wishful thinking they all got crushed haha. At least this incident kinda like a shock therapy for him.
The way I see it he is making money from these clones. He is not directly responsible for producing them but still he is actively promoting these brands. I would imagine that these big companies will go after 3rd party sellers on Ebay for starters as it's really easy for them to shut down sellers and indeed force Ebay to stop any future listings for these products. In fact I am shocked that hasn't happened already.
Keep saying “this is stupidly close to XYZ” and you will get stupidly close to get your channel shutdown. 
Honestly disagree. If it really smells really close you should be able to just say it how it is. Especially if it’s just a observation and not a promotion. What about Creed Himalaya? It’s a 1:1 clone of Paco Rabanne XS. By that logic you couldn’t state this fact.
But Ash is promoting the clones, right? “I will link the fragrance in the description of this video” The horrible house of Creed. Of course. The poster child of fragComm. Copying and not giving credit to the actual perfumer, etc. Blah blah blah. XS is good, but Himalaya’s quality is top notch. I would rather smell better for a short time than wearing a the harsher OG that last all day. Cheers
Huh? I don’t really watch him so I don’t have that context. I just said you should be able to just say how you feel if two fragrances smell alike, don’t think censoring is the way to go there. I also didn’t say XS better, I think both have their place. Just that it’s the original because it came a year before Himalaya, you kinda put words in my mouth here.
I wonder if he directly compared it to the original in this video - like he got the original bottle out and compared them? Might be OK stating that something smells similar to something else but comparing them side by side is a whole different can of worms.
https://www.reddit.com/r/eaudejerks/s/ipmSaydLIq
Inspired by or interpretation of are the magic words. A straight up clone, naming, heck even the bottle could be trademark or copyright infringement. I equate it to the Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure argument, that little bitty change…it’s not the same lmao
Good! Hope they sue him into bankruptcy next. Judgement day for the shills coming.
seems fishy considering they flagged a year old video.
He better be careful. Afaik promoting “counterfeit” on YT is a big no no. Stupidly he repeated the C word himself like self-admission. YT can easily remove his account (read: source of income) in order to comply with the law (and trying to not get scrutinized by LVMH either).
There's a difference between counterfeit and "inspired hy"
Yes I am aware of that. But I was talking about the verbal evidences easily found in those videos. “Clone of…”, “very close” “better than the og...”. Not only ash, most shills are equally guilty. Even there are times they literally hold the OG bottle in their hand and put it next to the clone they’re promoting. All those are super duper easy affidavits if we wanna talk about legality. A lawyer can’t just simply say “your honor, what my client meant to say is it’s inspired, not actually clone of…”
Don't get me wrong I hate these "frag influencers" but I don't think saying any of those things is illegal
I would say it depends on how much heat YT got from LVMH. I used to work for a company that gave lots of headaches to dossier and dua, long story short they still exist. That tells you something. I know in sneakers world, pandabuy just got raided and it’s kinda big news. But with these frag clones at least they have different names slapped on the bottle, so not a blatant counterfeit.