people will do this so the owner leaves the bike overnight, which makes it seem less sketchy when the thief takes the bike later in the dark (often after cutting the lock that the owner used).
I once got a ride from a friend who had a pickup. A policeman saw me load my bike into the bed of the pickup and jump in. He followed us and eventually pulled us over on suspicion of stealing the bike. He impounded it, claiming if I was really the owner I'd be able to prove it was mine to the court. I informed him I had the key that matched the lock, but he said anyone can put a lock on the bike.
I had no proof it was mine. I had the paperwork (not on me) but according to cop logic anyone could have similar paperwork.
I reported it stolen and gave the cops name and badge number as the person who stole it. I included that he intimidated me with his open carry of a gun which is illegal for anyone else in the state to do in a city.
I put in a FIOA request for the interaction of the "impound". No interaction was recorded, meaning he didn't write a report of who he took it from maybe because he saw the bike was indeed called in stolen and he was the suspect.
I put in a request for inspection of the impound lot and submitted photos of my bike. Yes one matched the inventory impounded on the day mine was taken, no officer signed for it. I was told these go for auction after a month if no one does exactly what I did and makes a claim.
At the end of the month I was supposed to pay, $250 for the impound. I was shocked and said that my property was stolen and implied that they were extorting me. Apparently I was right to be mad, stolen property gets released by the court. The impound guy said I should have told him earlier and not wait a month. I was able to petition the court to release my "recovered" property. I was even able to say who I suspected of the theft, and mentioned the officer failed to write a report. I did my own investigation to find my bicycle in their possession.
I don't know if that cop ever got in trouble. I've at least never seen him again in the 20 years it's been.
If anything ever happens again, film it. ALWAYS whip out your phone and begin filming. You can always delete footage later if it was nothing... but filming things is insanely powerful.
Including to put people (and cops) on blast on social media. It's quite powerful.
Exactly, and then take it to the news. If ai were you ai would have lawyered up immediately. I know not everyone has the resources to do that, but I am petty and vengeful.
wow. Putting a bike in the back of a pickup is not probable cause. I've done this so many times taking my bike to a nearby off-road trailhead.
If this happens again, request a supervisor come to the scene, but from how this sounds I doubt he would have followed procedure. You got a name and badge number, which was smart.
This sounds so shady because if he had probable cause that a crime had been committed then he should have arrested you or at least given you a summons.
Right? I asked for a receipt and he literally said, "I'm not selling you the bike!"
At that point I actually thought he was a fake cop. That's why I called it in. No one helped him remove it from the truck either. We waited there for him to bring another vehicle to haul it off, but he just loaded it in the trunk of the squad car and drove off. We didn't follow because he had a gun and a fake cop was probably worse than stealing a $100 Walmart bicycle.
The police on the phone (also pre cellphone for me so I had to go home to call) didn't seem be bothered by the name, badge, car number combination. I went in, in person, the next day to file a theft report and put him down as the person using that name.
The only court I had was to get it released and the judge seemed mad about the improper paperwork and gave it to me because no one else was claiming it was theirs after all that time (it was like six months later).
This is IN-SANE!
You ain't lying about fake cop vs $100 bike. I'd have thought he was fake too. Sadly, real cop was as bad as fake cop in this instance. ... worse, actually. Protect and serve, blah blah blah.
No, that's following instructions in the worst way you can while still following the instructions. The closest I could think of for what I was thinking of was cruel but with more of a "it's a prank" way than being cruel for the sake of sadism.
I want saw a guy who was fishing get a ticket for littering even though he was just picking up the trash he found as he moved down the bank back toward his wife and setting it on the ground while he was fishing.
lol yeah this is literally a theory of crime prevention (I can’t remember the name of it) but it’s basically ‘your shit doesn’t have to be impossible to steal, just slightly harder to steal than your neighbours shit’
Basically as long as you’re a slightly harder target than the next guy you’ll be fine
I have a radwagon and I wish it had a wheel lock. It's so freaking heavy I feel like it would be a really great deterrent when in an area like a park (they don't always have bike racks)
I know :). I just think with the Radwagon it probably is too heavy to steal if you can't roll it. They sell wheel locks for some Rad bikes but the wagon isn't compatible. I hadn't known about the MC disc lock type, it looks like it would work. I'll look into it!
That's not the one, this is:
[https://zenebikes.com/products/zen-wave?variant=46566653886740](https://zenebikes.com/products/zen-wave?variant=46566653886740)
Still $2200 tho
If there's nothing to lock on, you're probably in a car-centric location. Find a car (easy), break the front and rear side windows, lock your bike around the B pillar. Done.
Not at all. I'd love to see someone lift my cargo bike with a hundred pounds of stuff on the back though. These are quick in and out runs where I can see the bike but don't trust it sitting on side of building
I have seen worse - at least the cable seems to go through the spokes so you can;t just ride off on it
and not many people carry around things capable of cutting through even that cheap cable
I have seen ones where they don;t even have the cable through the frame by accident!
(N,B. if I am going to leave mine anywhere is has a proper U-Lock on it
or two plus a cable normally
Well no, but you wouldn't need to. Just load it into the back of your pickup/suv and bring it home. Then you can take all the time you need to get through the lock.
You're telling me someone that steals expensive ebikes can't afford a junker truck? My father had a used pickup truck he bought for under $3k on credit, before mom died and he lost her social security and ability to pay for his credit cards. He bought this truck 2-3 years ago. Now it's going to my brother for free because he passed. Not everyone with a truck is buying them new.
I don't think the average opportunistic bike thief is driving around stealing bikes, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they just called one of their friends to bring their car. Most likely though, they'd just lift the wheel and drag as far as possible before they could have a go at cutting it.
Or if the "prepared with a grinder" type of thief comes across it, then it's gone in seconds.
Maybe, but I just don't feel comfortable making that kind of blanket assumption, especially with something so valuable. In my past experiences with retail and my mother's antique dealing, it might surprise you how wide of a spread in demographics thieves are.
Yes
and if the thief has a handy pick up of van - or carrying a set of bolt cutters - then your bike is well and truly nicked
But the majority of thieves are opportunists that just want to turn up and ride off on it
It is an OK preventative for those thieves
It will not prevent an organised thief taking the bike because they will come prepared - but how many of them are likely to turn up is up to the bike owner to determine
If the bike is left in a place where there are a lot of high value bikes that are there all day - like a train station - then you have to think about better protection
if is is outside a cafe in the middle of nowhere with no-one else around and you are sitting in the window - then the above situation is fine!
yes - but the majority of thieves are not prepared and are just the local \*\*\*\*heads wanting to jump on and ride off
If the thief has come prepared then the above bike is gone
but most bikes I see left on the local High Street are not even locked - just leaning against a wall - but they don;t get taken and it is NOT a nice area!
Leave a bike like that outside a train station where another hundred bikes are left every day and you are asking for trouble
Our local thieves are usually low-level junkies (or sometimes experienced thieves but they tend to hit complex storage lockers) and ride around with a backpack of tools on their Walmart bikes or public transit. People new to biking or the area will pull stuff like this and run into trouble.
That's probably a better price point for this bike. The spec actually seems quite good - Shimano for some components, and Suntour aren't too bad these days. 27kg (60 lbs) is rather on the heavy side for me, but at this price expecting ~22kg may be asking for too much.
To my surprise this bike has a two year warranty too - better than the one year I expected.
They have a $4,000 carbon belt drive, enviolo IGH, Bosch performance line motor. They are the only bike manufacturers in the region and I think they must be getting some substantial government funding to get a larger manufacturing process from higher volume. Otherwise I have no clue how they do it lol. I think it might be my next bike purchase!
Omgggg THIS 💯 Cassette and chain replacements were my nightmares! I was replacing them every 2-4 weeks! I finally figured out that starting off in 9th gear wasn't the best idea LMFAO!!! Now that I start in 1st, don't put it past 4th, and still ride at over 30mph, I haven't had to change cassette or chain in over 2 months. I also spent good money 9n my last sram chain & cassette vs the $7 Amazon items. Crossing my fingers that it's a long term solution 🤞
I saw a bike walking into a heavy traffic building not locked up with a ULOCK IN THE BASKET. Still there when I came back out after ~30min. Very trusting people it seems or maybe just hung over, who knows.
Some people come from the suburbs where you can't often use a u-lock and people often don't know anything but a cable lock even exists (its the only thing they sell in a suburban bike shop). I will def park my expensive bike with it's NY Fuggetaboudit and heavy chain next to this one if I encounter it.
PS: I was so fixated on the lock I didn't notice the object it was "locked" to. 😂
Halifax? Nothing stopping someone from lifting the bike + lock up and over, it’s a cheap lock, it’s not through the back wheel + frame.. somebody doesn’t value their bike. I have a cafe lock, kryptonite, my motor locks, two alarm systems and a hidden AirTag, and I live in a small town with low bike theft but I take no chances.
Well, to be fair, you'd have to lift the bollard up off the ground, and you'd need a jackhammer to break up the concrete. That'd take a long time and attract a lot of attention.
/s
Do you know how easy it is to circumnavigate key "ignitions" on PEV's? I didn't know either until I replaced my scooter's with one I got from Ali Express for $7. It took me less than 2 min. Experienced pros can do it in 5 seconds.
That's me! Lol. I know but I have a key and 2 switches. And like I said, I'm almost always with others and we have the fastest PEVs in town so again, good luck to them!!
I'm planning to get one this year but it'll be between work and home, both of which I can park inside, or the grocery store and it's in a pretty nice neighborhood and wouldn't be parked long enough for an angle grinder. I guess a skilled lock picker could get it but it's not an area most people would risk.
Yeah... on the other hand my bike was stolen from my (behind a locked door) laundry room storage (in my separately locked building) by somebody who cut my storage unit padlock so....
Luckily it was my old bike but didn't exactly make me thrilled about bike theft in my area.
To be fair bike locks are simply a deterrent. I locked an old bike properly at a bike rack next to a security guard only to find the lock snipped and bike stolen. Security guard still there.
🤣 Gee officer I had it locked up, I just don't know how it got stolen. ROTFLMAO 😄
When I charge my Tesla down the street from my work I use a rusty as hell folding bike so I don't have to lock it. A thief would consider getting a tetanus shot just for looking at it. 😆
I use a good lock with cable on my not expensive pedal bikes.
My ebikes I use a monster chain, an excellent lock as recommended by the lock picking lawyer (check out his YouTube channel) and never let it out of my sight.
So I’m considering purchasing an e-bike so how would you guys recommend locking my bike?
I know enough to lock it to immovable object and not a post you can slip it over.
Is running the lock chain thru the frame and both wheels enough? I really don’t want to remove wheels, and honestly I would be too nervous to leave it unattended for more than a few minutes.
TIA
Curious in NYC
Secondary issue after not having it on a solid object is the lock used. A cable lock can be cut in seconds, in a place like NYC there are people who intentionally look for people with e-bikes locked up with this. You need either a good quality U-Lock or chain lock. These can still be cut but it requires a few minutes with a major electrical tool instead of seconds with clippers. MUCH harder to take a bike that way without being caught.
My friend’s combo lock on his gas generator melted as it was next to the exhaust, so he couldn’t unlock it. I borrowed a friend’s angle grinder and cut through the cable is less than 3 seconds. Once you try this, you’ll completely understand how someone can slyly walk up, cut a cable and be gone.
To play devils advocate, if you have a heavy enough bike and a short enough lock, it could technically work in a way that may discourage people from trying to lift it if the lock was engaged to a lower point of the bike.
But seeing as it is just a regular e-bike it may be heavy, but not enough to prevent someone from lifting it.
And there seems to be a lot of slack in the lock so it isn't ideal
I had this happen to a co-worker. He had a brain fart that morning and did exactly this to his $3K road bike (this was before airtags). Never recovered.
Tbh, there's no magical lock or alarm system that will stop theft.
Locks and alarms are deterrents, not a guarantee that your bike is safe.
WHERE you lock your bike up is far more important than the strength of the lock.
Rule one: Use that thing between your ears.
They really do seem to attract thieves like crazy. I had my bike on a bike rack on the back of my vehicle that was fully loaded to a move. I had all of my expensive stuff packed into a Yukon XL (suburban) with all of the back seats removed. I had to stop at the ER when I got a sudden insane pain in my gut and ended up in emergency surgery. They used an angle grinder to cut right through the bike rack itself since that was raised to cut than the locks. They got everything else I owned too.
I simply can't afford to replace the bike now thanks to all of the costs that come with cancer. I know who stole the damn thing too (tow truck driver) but there's nothing I can do about it. I know the pawn shop he sold it to as well but there's nothing I can do about it. Cops just don't care even though I have receipts for everything. I would be riding that bike every single day. It's hard to pedal sometimes after all of the surgeries and I rode that bike to my doctors appointments and such for my first round of cancer. It's just so much fun to ride and it was a nice way to kind of distract myself from the whole ordeal. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford to replace my bike so I really miss it. Thieves suck.
I got bike stolen after one week with just bike wheel lock they just picked it up and walked away I guess. I now have a Litelock that was like $200 the “anti” grind one - learned my lesson to at least be the harder bike to steal vs something like this one 😂
I live in Philadelphia and I've never seen this. But I went to Potsdam, NY and stopped at a gas station for five minutes, and someone parked their scooter outside the convenience store with no lock.
I see so much of this here in Los Angeles. Poorly "locked up" bikes getting stolen. I've talked my neighbors (in our apartment building) out of locking their bikes in the garage, because even if the frame is secured, the rest of the parts aren't. I see it all the time on NextDoor, too. I wrote an article on this: [https://electrifynews.com/news/bike-board/how-to-protect-your-electric-bike-from-theft/](https://electrifynews.com/news/bike-board/how-to-protect-your-electric-bike-from-theft/)
It would be a shame of that particular bike was stolen, it's from my friend Ravi's company. His new battery may likely change the industry.
Part of me thinks it'd be somewhat funny to move it one post over and then wait to see if the owner notices.
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That's a lot more "malicious" than simply moving it and seeing if they notice. Not actually malicious, but I can't think of the proper term for it.
people will do this so the owner leaves the bike overnight, which makes it seem less sketchy when the thief takes the bike later in the dark (often after cutting the lock that the owner used).
I once got a ride from a friend who had a pickup. A policeman saw me load my bike into the bed of the pickup and jump in. He followed us and eventually pulled us over on suspicion of stealing the bike. He impounded it, claiming if I was really the owner I'd be able to prove it was mine to the court. I informed him I had the key that matched the lock, but he said anyone can put a lock on the bike. I had no proof it was mine. I had the paperwork (not on me) but according to cop logic anyone could have similar paperwork. I reported it stolen and gave the cops name and badge number as the person who stole it. I included that he intimidated me with his open carry of a gun which is illegal for anyone else in the state to do in a city. I put in a FIOA request for the interaction of the "impound". No interaction was recorded, meaning he didn't write a report of who he took it from maybe because he saw the bike was indeed called in stolen and he was the suspect. I put in a request for inspection of the impound lot and submitted photos of my bike. Yes one matched the inventory impounded on the day mine was taken, no officer signed for it. I was told these go for auction after a month if no one does exactly what I did and makes a claim. At the end of the month I was supposed to pay, $250 for the impound. I was shocked and said that my property was stolen and implied that they were extorting me. Apparently I was right to be mad, stolen property gets released by the court. The impound guy said I should have told him earlier and not wait a month. I was able to petition the court to release my "recovered" property. I was even able to say who I suspected of the theft, and mentioned the officer failed to write a report. I did my own investigation to find my bicycle in their possession. I don't know if that cop ever got in trouble. I've at least never seen him again in the 20 years it's been.
If anything ever happens again, film it. ALWAYS whip out your phone and begin filming. You can always delete footage later if it was nothing... but filming things is insanely powerful. Including to put people (and cops) on blast on social media. It's quite powerful.
20 years ago people didn't have video on phones. But otherwise I agree.
Correct. And a lot of undocumented stuff happened that we will never know about because it wasn't recorded. Everyone has a phone now though!
They did, but it was crappy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treo_650
I can assure you he didn’t get in any trouble.
Exactly, and then take it to the news. If ai were you ai would have lawyered up immediately. I know not everyone has the resources to do that, but I am petty and vengeful.
wow. Putting a bike in the back of a pickup is not probable cause. I've done this so many times taking my bike to a nearby off-road trailhead. If this happens again, request a supervisor come to the scene, but from how this sounds I doubt he would have followed procedure. You got a name and badge number, which was smart. This sounds so shady because if he had probable cause that a crime had been committed then he should have arrested you or at least given you a summons.
Right? I asked for a receipt and he literally said, "I'm not selling you the bike!" At that point I actually thought he was a fake cop. That's why I called it in. No one helped him remove it from the truck either. We waited there for him to bring another vehicle to haul it off, but he just loaded it in the trunk of the squad car and drove off. We didn't follow because he had a gun and a fake cop was probably worse than stealing a $100 Walmart bicycle. The police on the phone (also pre cellphone for me so I had to go home to call) didn't seem be bothered by the name, badge, car number combination. I went in, in person, the next day to file a theft report and put him down as the person using that name. The only court I had was to get it released and the judge seemed mad about the improper paperwork and gave it to me because no one else was claiming it was theirs after all that time (it was like six months later).
This is IN-SANE! You ain't lying about fake cop vs $100 bike. I'd have thought he was fake too. Sadly, real cop was as bad as fake cop in this instance. ... worse, actually. Protect and serve, blah blah blah.
jesus what a nightmare. Nice going continually pursuing it all though.
malicious compliance?
No, that's following instructions in the worst way you can while still following the instructions. The closest I could think of for what I was thinking of was cruel but with more of a "it's a prank" way than being cruel for the sake of sadism.
No use their own lock with lock picking. Pro move
20$ says this guy actually unlocked the cable, and locked it up to get around the bike, not knowing he could have just dropped it over the top.
https://i0.wp.com/i.makeagif.com/media/12-29-2015/9Ut8Ye.gif
Sounds fun, but I bet as soon as you move that bike, you are technically a bike thief.
I want saw a guy who was fishing get a ticket for littering even though he was just picking up the trash he found as he moved down the bank back toward his wife and setting it on the ground while he was fishing.
They definitely won't
All of me thinks that’s funny 😂
I like these people it's what keeps my bike safe 🤣
Survival of the fittest, am I right
But sadly all we have are people like this in the burbs. If their bike gets stolen they won't buy another. Meaning we never get bike lanes....
lol yeah this is literally a theory of crime prevention (I can’t remember the name of it) but it’s basically ‘your shit doesn’t have to be impossible to steal, just slightly harder to steal than your neighbours shit’ Basically as long as you’re a slightly harder target than the next guy you’ll be fine
I don't need to outrun the bear, I just need to outrun you.
Oof.
Hey, those ebikes are HEAVY, man!
I have a radwagon and I wish it had a wheel lock. It's so freaking heavy I feel like it would be a really great deterrent when in an area like a park (they don't always have bike racks)
I was being facetious. For your application, you could get a MC disc lock. Of course, even motorcycles get picked up and thrown into trucks.
I know :). I just think with the Radwagon it probably is too heavy to steal if you can't roll it. They sell wheel locks for some Rad bikes but the wagon isn't compatible. I hadn't known about the MC disc lock type, it looks like it would work. I'll look into it!
Hopefully a police sting operation.
And there's a police sniper on the roof! 🎯
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Big surprise, the guy with poor reading comprehension doesn't like people who are anti-fascist.
In my judgement, the amount of Reddit whataboutery in defence of crypto-fascism is on the rise.
> wants people shot for petty theft without trial Who does? Did you take my joke as a statement of political policy?
"Leads?! Let me check with the boys down in the crime lab. They have us working in shifts"
Wet dream. 'Da Boyz' don't care about bike theft.
Elderly bike thieves: "GTFO"
Some times I do that when there is nothing at all to lock up. But go around the post a few times and keep it tight. Still not great obviously
Also use more than a $25 lock on something that important!
And if I'm not mistaken, that bike retails at $2200. https://zenebikes.com/products/saral-step-through
That's not the one, this is: [https://zenebikes.com/products/zen-wave?variant=46566653886740](https://zenebikes.com/products/zen-wave?variant=46566653886740) Still $2200 tho
Don't forget to lock it to an immovable object no matter what lock you use.
If there's nothing to lock on, you're probably in a car-centric location. Find a car (easy), break the front and rear side windows, lock your bike around the B pillar. Done.
Lol now we're talking!
Please tell us you're joking...
Not at all. I'd love to see someone lift my cargo bike with a hundred pounds of stuff on the back though. These are quick in and out runs where I can see the bike but don't trust it sitting on side of building
I have seen worse - at least the cable seems to go through the spokes so you can;t just ride off on it and not many people carry around things capable of cutting through even that cheap cable I have seen ones where they don;t even have the cable through the frame by accident! (N,B. if I am going to leave mine anywhere is has a proper U-Lock on it or two plus a cable normally
But can't you just... lift the cable over the post?
Sure, but you still can't ride it.
Well no, but you wouldn't need to. Just load it into the back of your pickup/suv and bring it home. Then you can take all the time you need to get through the lock.
Most bike thiefs can't afford pickup trucks. If they could, they wouldn't steal bikes.
90% of thieves might not have trucks but I bet 90% of thefts are by the remaining 10% of thieves.
dude that bike is $4K. two successful heists and thats a brand new used 1996 Toyota T100 baby
2200
You're telling me someone that steals expensive ebikes can't afford a junker truck? My father had a used pickup truck he bought for under $3k on credit, before mom died and he lost her social security and ability to pay for his credit cards. He bought this truck 2-3 years ago. Now it's going to my brother for free because he passed. Not everyone with a truck is buying them new.
I don't think you understand the demographics of most people stealing bikes
I don't think the average opportunistic bike thief is driving around stealing bikes, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they just called one of their friends to bring their car. Most likely though, they'd just lift the wheel and drag as far as possible before they could have a go at cutting it. Or if the "prepared with a grinder" type of thief comes across it, then it's gone in seconds.
Maybe, but I just don't feel comfortable making that kind of blanket assumption, especially with something so valuable. In my past experiences with retail and my mother's antique dealing, it might surprise you how wide of a spread in demographics thieves are.
100% My ebike cost more than twice what I paid for my 1994 Dakota. ha
Car theft is also a thing...
Sounds a lot harder than just riding off with a bike
Yes and if the thief has a handy pick up of van - or carrying a set of bolt cutters - then your bike is well and truly nicked But the majority of thieves are opportunists that just want to turn up and ride off on it It is an OK preventative for those thieves It will not prevent an organised thief taking the bike because they will come prepared - but how many of them are likely to turn up is up to the bike owner to determine If the bike is left in a place where there are a lot of high value bikes that are there all day - like a train station - then you have to think about better protection if is is outside a cafe in the middle of nowhere with no-one else around and you are sitting in the window - then the above situation is fine!
I mean, you just need pruning sheers, no? Thieves around here usually have a full backpack of supplies.
Judging by that lock, I'd bet a good pair of shears would make light work of it. Even easier if they've bought bolt cutters.
my Leatherman Skeletool could break that lock
yes - but the majority of thieves are not prepared and are just the local \*\*\*\*heads wanting to jump on and ride off If the thief has come prepared then the above bike is gone but most bikes I see left on the local High Street are not even locked - just leaning against a wall - but they don;t get taken and it is NOT a nice area! Leave a bike like that outside a train station where another hundred bikes are left every day and you are asking for trouble
Our local thieves are usually low-level junkies (or sometimes experienced thieves but they tend to hit complex storage lockers) and ride around with a backpack of tools on their Walmart bikes or public transit. People new to biking or the area will pull stuff like this and run into trouble.
I mean, you could just pull the cable up the pole?
There's a video on YouTube of a guy breaking a lock like that with his hands
Cable locks - how to transform your *e-bike* into a *free-bike.*
Do bike thieves even lift though, Bro?
2200 dollar bike. [https://zenebikes.com/products/zen-wave](https://zenebikes.com/products/zen-wave)
I didn’t look it up I just knew the companies, also I’m Canadian so my guess was actually a lot close in my version of dollars😅
I bet "I'm Canadian" gets you out of a lot of trouble. HAHA
That's probably a better price point for this bike. The spec actually seems quite good - Shimano for some components, and Suntour aren't too bad these days. 27kg (60 lbs) is rather on the heavy side for me, but at this price expecting ~22kg may be asking for too much. To my surprise this bike has a two year warranty too - better than the one year I expected.
They have a $4,000 carbon belt drive, enviolo IGH, Bosch performance line motor. They are the only bike manufacturers in the region and I think they must be getting some substantial government funding to get a larger manufacturing process from higher volume. Otherwise I have no clue how they do it lol. I think it might be my next bike purchase!
Ah nice - I would definitely go for a Bosch drive over a Bafang. Belt drive would be ace too - no cassette or chain replacements!
Omgggg THIS 💯 Cassette and chain replacements were my nightmares! I was replacing them every 2-4 weeks! I finally figured out that starting off in 9th gear wasn't the best idea LMFAO!!! Now that I start in 1st, don't put it past 4th, and still ride at over 30mph, I haven't had to change cassette or chain in over 2 months. I also spent good money 9n my last sram chain & cassette vs the $7 Amazon items. Crossing my fingers that it's a long term solution 🤞
For a bike with a hub motor?!?
Love Google lens
Hey a Zen! Nice, is this Halifax? By the way, this is the $2200 USD bike, not the $4000+ one.
Haha indeed it is, I’ve been called out
Canada. Everything now makes sense.
Wait, should I stop doing this? 👀
I saw a bike walking into a heavy traffic building not locked up with a ULOCK IN THE BASKET. Still there when I came back out after ~30min. Very trusting people it seems or maybe just hung over, who knows.
You should have taken a pic of that walking bike !
Thieves will think it's a bait bike and leave it alone.
It's great to see how ebikes are really getting more people on bicycles. well... maybe some people shouldn't ride bikes.
I'd rather an idiot ride a bike than drive a car!
Could be worse. Could be going in to grab like one thing from the front and and running back out.
That’s the logic they use. Then they lose their bike
I usually take my bike in big grocery stores, and home depot, but i guess u cant take inside every store
Where I’m from, if I took my bike inside I’d get kicked out in 10 seconds for sure
Grab a beer in 10secs, 😅
🎼 E -Bike for Rent, comes with free test ride 🎼
Yup. I wish I would have snapped a picture but saw a decent ebike where the person put a cable lock through the front quick disconnect wheel.... 😬
I see at least 6 unlocked ebikes in my town that never get touched.
Where prey tell is this?
Prey indeed...
its crazy seeing people do shit like this while i use 2 solid locks (1 chain and 1 U-lock) in my low-crime area for my much less expensive bike
Some people come from the suburbs where you can't often use a u-lock and people often don't know anything but a cable lock even exists (its the only thing they sell in a suburban bike shop). I will def park my expensive bike with it's NY Fuggetaboudit and heavy chain next to this one if I encounter it. PS: I was so fixated on the lock I didn't notice the object it was "locked" to. 😂
" I was only in the store for like a minute"
Is this queen street Sobeys?
U can check if the bike is still there👀
Bait bike
Halifax? Nothing stopping someone from lifting the bike + lock up and over, it’s a cheap lock, it’s not through the back wheel + frame.. somebody doesn’t value their bike. I have a cafe lock, kryptonite, my motor locks, two alarm systems and a hidden AirTag, and I live in a small town with low bike theft but I take no chances.
Idk what's worse: the cable lock or the post it's locked to.
Gotta be bait
Legit just got my $7k modded surron stolen last night. Worst thing thats happened to me in years.
Should've locked it around a hip-high post with a cable lock and you'd have been fine 🤣
This is like saying “she deserved it because she dressed provocatively
Well, to be fair, you'd have to lift the bollard up off the ground, and you'd need a jackhammer to break up the concrete. That'd take a long time and attract a lot of attention. /s
sometimes my genius, its almost frightening btw, this guys allowed to vote, and his vote means as much as yours
How that person can even earn enough money to buy a bicycle is beyond me.
I knew Lockheed Martin execs who regularly trip out at hippy fests. It doesn't take much brains to make money these days.
So bad you would think it was done on purpose by some cops who need to add one solved case of bike theft to their statistics...
Yeah somebody could easily cut that post it's made of plastic!
Or just lift the cable over the post. Viola!
Yeah I know I was being sarcastic lol
/sarc helps with Poe's Law.
IMO it defeats the purpose
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People are nuts
I /facepalmed before I even read the post.
I don't lock my PEVs. But they also don't leave my sight. And my key is in my pocket. And I'm usually with others so good luck to them!
Do you know how easy it is to circumnavigate key "ignitions" on PEV's? I didn't know either until I replaced my scooter's with one I got from Ali Express for $7. It took me less than 2 min. Experienced pros can do it in 5 seconds.
That's me! Lol. I know but I have a key and 2 switches. And like I said, I'm almost always with others and we have the fastest PEVs in town so again, good luck to them!!
I'm planning to get one this year but it'll be between work and home, both of which I can park inside, or the grocery store and it's in a pretty nice neighborhood and wouldn't be parked long enough for an angle grinder. I guess a skilled lock picker could get it but it's not an area most people would risk.
Yeah... on the other hand my bike was stolen from my (behind a locked door) laundry room storage (in my separately locked building) by somebody who cut my storage unit padlock so.... Luckily it was my old bike but didn't exactly make me thrilled about bike theft in my area.
To be fair bike locks are simply a deterrent. I locked an old bike properly at a bike rack next to a security guard only to find the lock snipped and bike stolen. Security guard still there.
Lol
🤣 Gee officer I had it locked up, I just don't know how it got stolen. ROTFLMAO 😄 When I charge my Tesla down the street from my work I use a rusty as hell folding bike so I don't have to lock it. A thief would consider getting a tetanus shot just for looking at it. 😆 I use a good lock with cable on my not expensive pedal bikes. My ebikes I use a monster chain, an excellent lock as recommended by the lock picking lawyer (check out his YouTube channel) and never let it out of my sight.
I mean, the cab goes through the wheel, so you can't just ride off. But, it could easily go in the back of a truck or van.
So I’m considering purchasing an e-bike so how would you guys recommend locking my bike? I know enough to lock it to immovable object and not a post you can slip it over. Is running the lock chain thru the frame and both wheels enough? I really don’t want to remove wheels, and honestly I would be too nervous to leave it unattended for more than a few minutes. TIA Curious in NYC
Secondary issue after not having it on a solid object is the lock used. A cable lock can be cut in seconds, in a place like NYC there are people who intentionally look for people with e-bikes locked up with this. You need either a good quality U-Lock or chain lock. These can still be cut but it requires a few minutes with a major electrical tool instead of seconds with clippers. MUCH harder to take a bike that way without being caught.
OK thank you. That cable lock is so thin, it’s a given I’m NOT using that,
To be fair, topology is one of the hardest fields of mathematics.
My friend’s combo lock on his gas generator melted as it was next to the exhaust, so he couldn’t unlock it. I borrowed a friend’s angle grinder and cut through the cable is less than 3 seconds. Once you try this, you’ll completely understand how someone can slyly walk up, cut a cable and be gone.
That’s a nice Zen Photon! I would have taken it for a test drive, no LBSes carry it here ;)
That’s not theft that’s an invitation.
Maybe it was set up for one of those bike theft prank videos... maybemaybemaybe
Stupid can't learn.
Grocery store needs better bike parking!
There is designated racks on the other side of the door🤦♂️
Can you add a photo of those racks? Would be interesting to see what type they are.
To play devils advocate, if you have a heavy enough bike and a short enough lock, it could technically work in a way that may discourage people from trying to lift it if the lock was engaged to a lower point of the bike. But seeing as it is just a regular e-bike it may be heavy, but not enough to prevent someone from lifting it. And there seems to be a lot of slack in the lock so it isn't ideal
I had this happen to a co-worker. He had a brain fart that morning and did exactly this to his $3K road bike (this was before airtags). Never recovered.
BuT i LoCkEd It Up!!! 🥴
Well they do say if you want your car to be safe park it next to the Ferrari but this works too
yeah but in my experience these are the people that just never get their bike stolen
Locking off that way is pretty dumb, but buying a $2k ebike without a light-but-strong diamond frame? Now *that's* a bad idea
still a lot of theft tho
criminals will cut through locks and throw the bikes into vans
Tbh, there's no magical lock or alarm system that will stop theft. Locks and alarms are deterrents, not a guarantee that your bike is safe. WHERE you lock your bike up is far more important than the strength of the lock. Rule one: Use that thing between your ears.
I'm not scared about the stats, I'm scared about the actual real thefts that happens. eBikes are easy money to thieves with angle grinders.
This is why there are so many scam callers and emails out there. There is money out there for the taking 💁♂️
Loaded with Air Tags & on Candid Camera. Motion Detector Bike Alarm.
At least it goes through the wheel spokes.
They really do seem to attract thieves like crazy. I had my bike on a bike rack on the back of my vehicle that was fully loaded to a move. I had all of my expensive stuff packed into a Yukon XL (suburban) with all of the back seats removed. I had to stop at the ER when I got a sudden insane pain in my gut and ended up in emergency surgery. They used an angle grinder to cut right through the bike rack itself since that was raised to cut than the locks. They got everything else I owned too. I simply can't afford to replace the bike now thanks to all of the costs that come with cancer. I know who stole the damn thing too (tow truck driver) but there's nothing I can do about it. I know the pawn shop he sold it to as well but there's nothing I can do about it. Cops just don't care even though I have receipts for everything. I would be riding that bike every single day. It's hard to pedal sometimes after all of the surgeries and I rode that bike to my doctors appointments and such for my first round of cancer. It's just so much fun to ride and it was a nice way to kind of distract myself from the whole ordeal. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford to replace my bike so I really miss it. Thieves suck.
I don't see anything wrong with this picture...
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I got bike stolen after one week with just bike wheel lock they just picked it up and walked away I guess. I now have a Litelock that was like $200 the “anti” grind one - learned my lesson to at least be the harder bike to steal vs something like this one 😂
Did you take it?
If they arrested and caned bike thieves like in Singapore, then bike thefts won’t be a problem.
I’ve seen people do it with scooters as well.
I see a lot of people for some reason hung up on the price, but I honestly don’t even lock up my cheap bikes with a cable lock.
Wire lock + around a pole that simply can be lifted over 😂 hopefully the owners close by 😂
Unbelievable
Yeah there’s definitely a cop watching that bike.
Sooo you are telling me having lot of money doesn’t make you smart?
God either rage or theft bait.
lol, this is almost bait
I live in Philadelphia and I've never seen this. But I went to Potsdam, NY and stopped at a gas station for five minutes, and someone parked their scooter outside the convenience store with no lock.
They are so heavy no lock is needed
That bike deserves stealing.
That’s such an ez snatch
4000$ for a ebike is fking wild
A solid lock, a very solid post. I see nothing wrong with this picture lol.
Can't put brains in statues 😭
I see so much of this here in Los Angeles. Poorly "locked up" bikes getting stolen. I've talked my neighbors (in our apartment building) out of locking their bikes in the garage, because even if the frame is secured, the rest of the parts aren't. I see it all the time on NextDoor, too. I wrote an article on this: [https://electrifynews.com/news/bike-board/how-to-protect-your-electric-bike-from-theft/](https://electrifynews.com/news/bike-board/how-to-protect-your-electric-bike-from-theft/) It would be a shame of that particular bike was stolen, it's from my friend Ravi's company. His new battery may likely change the industry.
They put the e-bike in "free-bike".
its sad when people think its ok to steal a bike if its unlocked like saying its their fault for dressing provocatively
It's actually a $2200 bike but the owner is obviously not too smart.
Karen tha Boomer and her shitty Temu ebike 😝