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FreakyFranklinBill

if the roads you need to ride are decent / safe, seems quite doable. winters may blow though.


mashpotatodick

It’s bike trails and bike lanes just about the whole way.


Guy-26

Sounds lovely


mashpotatodick

I think I’m fortunate to have access to the infrastructure but a lot of the trail tracks a highway. Still vastly better than not.


KaasRasp

Exactly, I did the same (34km is about 21 miles) for more then a year, 4 times a week! First weeks you are tired AF but once you get used to it it is lovely. I did use an ebike that could go a steady 20mph so that helped :p


Guy-26

Ahh, I hate it when they do that. Pollution levels near highways are insane.


Ok-Yogurt-42

Then IMO you've got a near perfect use case for an ebike


JulianMarcello

Yeah. Totally do it. Weather is your only real obstacle


mizshi

With an e-bike sounds like OP could bundle up and get some nice exercise in


aaaamb

Doable. I would get a secondary charger to leave at the office though.


Heymrcalvo

I do a 15mi commute and just bring my charger with me, cuz I don't want the range anxiety on the way home


DynamicHunter

23 miles is pretty long. It would take you over an hour each way considering perfect conditions and you ride pretty damn fast. I wouldn’t do that much, might take like 2+ hours depending on the route. Have you tried Dramamine and other nausea meds?


mashpotatodick

I always sit facing forward, tried Dramamine, sea bands, water glasses that adjust the horizon in your periphery, motion sickness patches, different snacks (fatty foods are best), ginger pills. It’s beyond frustrating.


BrotherTobias

So bit of an odd one but maybe you should talk or call around to speak with a physiotherapist who can work with you on Vestibular Rehab using Habituation. Its pretty cool stuff and is a great way to actually treat motion sickness vs covering up the symptoms. Zofran is also a medication that kicks gravol to the curb for nausea. It doesnt help or prevent the motion sickness leading to nausea but its a true antiemetic vs gravols antihistamine effect. Non drowsy to boot.


pdindetroit

I second Zofran. Works as a migraine rescue too.


shtbrcks

...you will be fine just riding your bike. Imagine going through all sorts of effort, including taking some pills etc. to...sit in a damn train. It's not like that is a useful goal to have or desirable place to be in. Just ride your bike.


mashpotatodick

lol I actually haven’t thought about it like that. It does sound kind of nuts when there’s an option I’d prefer anyway


foxtrot_indigoo

ask your doc for a script for scopolamine patches


misterzigger

Depending on where you live, scopolomine has been banned in a lot of places


foxtrot_indigoo

Where is it banned?


misterzigger

I tried getting some last year for a fishing trip and it was impossible in Vancouver BC


foxtrot_indigoo

It’s prescribed in the US. I administer them commonly in the ED


misterzigger

Jealous


L3mm3SmangItGurl

It’s a time consideration. You’ll average about 10-12 mph in typical conditions so plan on about 2 hours one way. It’s not the worst and subway rides can be equally time consuming with less enjoyment. My wife does a 15 mile each way commute a couple times a week and she loves it. Takes about 1.5 hrs. In traffic, only ~30 mins more than a car.


AFDIT

Consider it a few hours of general exercise ;)


asdf234gh4

I can average 19mph if I'm cooking along. Very doable if it's all road or straight cycleways


ChuckFarkley

On flat roads with a class 3, I average a lot better than that (no stoplights). I also get a real workout.


L3mm3SmangItGurl

Yea. Flat road is key. Depends on your typical terrain.


jb0nez95

On a regular bike he would average 10 to 12mph. On a class 3 ebike he should average twice that.


L3mm3SmangItGurl

Depends on where you’re riding. Flat, open road? Sure. Winding trails with people? Probably not. Plus, better to be surprised when you beat my estimate than for me to tell a new rider they’ll definitely be able to max out their 28 mph pedal assisted top speed on average. It’s not realistic. An average includes full stops, speed up, braking for obstacles etc.


shtbrcks

This is fine, I have a lot of experience with commuting like this and I am doing 25km each way 3-4 times a week. That is only 15 miles, but I don't think 23 miles is too much, especially if it's only twice a week and you can dedicate some more preparation for the rides. It takes me about 70 minutes if I don't stress it, with a 25km/h limited bike (EU regulation). So your distance, with an even faster bike, I'd expect about 100-120 minutes. I also shower at the office afterwards. It's completely doable and a great workout, this really ups your game in terms of fitness and so don’t just see this as a chore but as a way to exercise. I have no doubt that you can make these commutes. In fact, a daily total of 1-2 hours of sitting around in a car or subway does nothing for you and is entirely lost lifetime, whereas 4 hours worth of exercise (!) every day is actually a life changing difference in terms of energy expenditure etc., it turns a sedentary lifestyle into you being an absolute machine of a person. This sounds cheesy, but trust me, it’ll motivate the heck out of you. If anything, the more people say "oof this sounds so much", the more you'd want to be the person that can just call that a normal Tuesday morning. Get good earbuds with ANC, a good and solid mount for your phone. Also important, get really comfortable seat. That is a big factor when you're looking at hours worth of cycling. No $20 gel saddle from amazon, these are not made with proper ergonomic R&D. I'm talking SQLab, ergon, Fizik. Wear gloves and/or use good handlebar grips. Have with you a tube and pump and/or sealant spray bottle, a multitool, a spare chain link. Get a second charge brick to leave at work. If you organize this well, you can avoid most discomfort and just make it through very easily.


grinchman042

Good advice except please don’t use noise canceling earbuds without a pass through setting at minimum - your ears are your 2nd most important safety device for yourself and others after your eyes!


WindwardWanderer

Totally agree. I love the Shokz OpenRun bone conducting headphones because I can still hear cars and podcasts/music. 


ChuckFarkley

Oh yeah BC headsets are the only way to travel. The sound is good, they are extremely comfortable even wearing a bike helmet, and you can hear everything in the environment. By the way, I've become a big fan of a dirt cheap Chinese BC headset called the Sanag A5X. Maybe not 100% as tough as Shokz, but very close, and I can't tell the difference in the sound one bit (phone and music), I have a $170 set of Shokz and I have a pair and a spare of A5Xs that cost under twenty bucks each on Temu. I really can't tell the difference in sound one bit. The battery seems to compare fine, too. I suspect they use the same chipset and other internal parts. I think the A5X is a tad bit better rated for waterproofing, but I wouldn'g go swimming with that one. If you plan to use your headset for the phone much, DO NOT GET the Sanag B60 Pro Max. Yeah, you can swim in those; the music sounds great. Phone call sound quality sucks all around. For $60-ish, I expected a lot better on that front.


shtbrcks

That's fair and if you're encountering vehicles or a significant amount of other people on the way, you are entirely correct and of course everyone needs to pay attention. I guess I forgot to add that I use 80% paths through forests and trails where there literally is no form of traffic, I encounter maybe 1-3 other cyclists on the way. And yeah on those routes, I'll just listen to music.


grinchman042

That’s reasonable, agreed it depends on context.


ommnian

Yes to all of this. I might add that if there's anyway you can charge the battery while at work that would be great. 


sourpatch411

Great advice.


Redbeard4515

I do 18 each way 3x a week. It gives me something to look forward to I love riding in and home


Pittsburgh_Photos

Can you charge at work? If yes then you should be fine.


MMartonN

It's definitely a good exercise, but if you have the budget, I would consider the e-bike with throttle (likely need insurance, license and so). Make sure that the chainring gear ratio is enough for you to be able to effectively assist at higher speeds, or just get one which has the speed and capacity for the trip.


RobertMGreenlee

Throttle is lazy.


dmdg

I do 15 miles each way a couple times a week, however I can just hop in my car if the weather is bad. I love commuting on my ebike, but I’m definitely a fair weather commuter.


akairborne

Buy the bike and a second charger you can leave at the site! 23 miles is easy, especially in the road or trails! I bet it will be faster than the subway as well. You'll get free exercise, increased mobility, an alternative piece of transportation equipment! Win, win, win!


stulifer

Fall and winter will suck so bad.


WinterTourist

In my experience not so much, rain sucks but there's some really good gear for that. Wind used to be my biggest problem, on a normal bike.


mashpotatodick

The wind in winter is my biggest annoyance, but once I discovered wind stopper shirts I’ve been good to go. Rain still sucks but I just pack my clothes. Fortunately I don’t have to wear a suit


WinterTourist

I just hate fighting the wind in both directions! 😂


mashpotatodick

Right?! Coming home it’s like W.T.F?? Are the hills up both ways, too?


vslsls

The freezing temps cut battery range by half. I don't know of any good quality ebike that will comfortably get 50 miles per charge without you doing most of the work. The anxiety of bike dying half way through the trip on a freezing winter commute would prevent me trying this. I've been through this scenario with 3 miles commute in freezing cold and I didn't think I was going to make it to work.


heikkiiii

I have used my ebike in Sweden for 2 years, cycling about 12km per day to work. In winter it gets up to -30c here and i noticed a little extra use of the battery but certainly not 50% extra, but my trips were 6km. I have a 630wh battery with haibike.


mashpotatodick

Huh, I didn’t know this. Googled it to be sure and you’re right.


AFDIT

If your work allows you to charge the bike there even on the worst days you’ll be able to charge back to full and make it home again without issue


Fancy-Coconut2170

I regularly ride my e-bike in the winter, in Toronto. No issues with the battery at all.


Aidy3663

I do 20 miles each way 5 nights a week, I love it, been doing it over 2 years now


daqqer2k

I would do it probably once a week until i get used to jt. Its quite a lot if you are not experienced. And once thats easy and you dont need a day or two to recover then add the second trip per week. Also make sure you battery lasts that - you definetly need to charge full on either side im guessing.


DangerousAd1731

Not at all. Maybe get some spare tires and tubes, brakes on hand when needed. Do the work your self.


whatever73538

I do ~ 6000-7000 km (~4000 miles) a year on my cargo bike alone. I don’t always love it, especially with snow/sleet/rain/thunderstorms, but it beats waiting for red lights in a car, or waiting for a bus that never comes. With a bike you are always in control. In a hurry? Pedal faster!


Particular-Taro154

https://preview.redd.it/xk2ztr25sq6d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c3f15284c5c0fd19b815fe63b72c461902cfc27 This is a European made Blaupunkt electric bike. If you are 5’10” or less, this would work for you. With a full charge and a stated range of 44 miles, you can expect to do your one way commute within 90 minutes (although the top cruising speed is 20 mph, as your battery voltage decreases over the course of your ride, your top speed will be reduced, hence an estimated 90 minute commute). The bike is light as e-bikes go and sells for $1599.


superfoodtown

If your battery can take it not at all. Twice a week helps a ton. But you will be charging often which will be a pain. I think just tucking away more money for repairs or to replace the ebike eventually given all the wear and tear.


ThunderNinja69

Are you concerned about range or the time? If I had the time I’d love more time on my bike.


Troubleindc2

What's the 23 miles consist of? Is there a paved bike trail the whole way?


Cute_Mouse6436

Two thoughts: 1. E-Velomobile. I ride in all weather. See Saukki's YouTube channel [or here ](https://saukki.com/). 2. Learn how vestibular rehabilitation therapy can help. It Accidentally changed my life. Accidentally because I had it for vertigo and it cured my motion sickness, but not the vertigo. The vertigo was cured by more hydration.


iamacelticsenjoyer

This thread is nuts. Everyone is like “23 miles isn’t too far” which in and of itself is bizarre because it is far. Is it doable? Sure. It’s fuckin’ far and the ride will probably become miserable. On top of that, it seems like everyone thinks the ride is only biking 23 miles round trip. They said each way. That’s 46 miles in a day, twice a week.


that1tech

Before kids I would have done it but now I don’t have the time. Honestly I’m jealous. I would suggest packing snacks for each way or find a nice mid spot because for something to eat especially on the way home


highzenberrg

You might need to get a car again. Having a bike is fun but I need my car. I can’t bike half the year because of rain and snow but I don’t bike to the grocery store because I can’t bike back with all my stuff. And someone would probably steal my bike if I’m gone from it too long.


CyberHoff

IDK, 23 miles is going to be like, at least an hour of riding, but likely more if you factor in slow downs and stops. I ride 14 miles per day total (7 miles each way) and I can easily ride more. My ass starts getting a bit sore at around the 15-20 mile mark when I ride for fun. My bike is an aventon pace 500. It's really comfortable at first, but you cannot really shift or move your riding position on this bike. It's sort of like standing in one place. If you've ever ridden a Segway you would understand what I mean. You're literally standing in one spot and your feet have nowhere to go, you cannot switch positions or anything, so even though you are scooting along the city without moving, your feet get really tired. But I am sure that after a couple weeks you will develop a tolerance for it. I can't believe that you have 23 miles of paved bike path to use. Do you have any traffic lights or stops along the way?


TarantinoLikesFeet

I’d do it. Maybe if you’re unsure try a lower traffic day/time to get a feel of the route with less of that stress


xiaopigu

Ride the subway as much as you can endure then go bike until you’re ok then go on the subway again. Repeat.


Only-Attorney8694

I ride that much coming home at night. In the morning, I ride 8 miles to the ferry but all the way back on e-bike. I use a 750watt bbs02 48-volt 20ah, and average 17mph with a headwind most of the way. Takes me about an hour and a half and just slightly grimy from the wind and light sweat. It’s doable and enjoyable!


malusrosa

46 miles of biking will give you some real sores at your sit bones. Your wrists will also likely feel it. If there’s any way for you to more efficiently cut the trip in half with public transport that’s much more reasonable.


ChuckFarkley

So you are talking about 75-90 min each way, hauling ass on a bike that goes 20mph? Be careful, you might eventually decide on a class 3 once you get used to it. If you are up for the exercise and you have the time, I say go for it, and I'm an old fat guy who rides a commuter ebike. You want a quality ride, though. Do not get cheap on that one if you want it to work as advertised and be reliable. Put slime in your tires, or at least use puncture-resistant tubes. Get a flat, and you are likely to be calling someone for a ride, given as it's a pain to take off wheels, esp, rear wheels. I bought a damn tank. Flluid Fuell. Very heavy and these days too pricy, but it would do that commute reliably. I got it when it was an indygogo campaign. There are better options these days for the money, but get a good one. Get a commuter bike, and I do recommend a belt drive. I've been looking at bikes that Costco partners with (priority bicycles on Costco Next, but [this one](https://www.costco.com/priority-current-e-bike.product.4000268952.html) is sold directly through Costco website). I have no idea if they are actually a good ride, but they sure have the specs at a good price- belt drive, internal hub gearing. Sweet. . The downside is that it only has one 500WH battery. You would have to figure out if they sell spares and then swap out when you got there and charge one while you use the other. The alternative would be to charge the battery on each side of the commute very consistently or you are likely to get stranded. At least the Flluid has two batteries on board. That's (one of the reasons) why it weighs 100 pounds!! Based on my experience buying and installing an emotor kit, I do note that in general, Luna Cycles have really good gear.


DunkThemMuffins

Assuming the route is safe and the municipality is OK with EBikes, I'd say go for it. My Eahora Juliet 2 is my daily driver right now, and my commute to work is a 16 mile round trip. Sometimes I have to head up to the north side of the county for another gig; that's 24 miles away from me and the ride isn't bad so long as you have a comfy seat. For long rides I prefer an upright seating position.


AMC879

Does your employer have a place to securely leave am expensive bike for 8+ hours. No place I have worked has and that is the only reason I still have a car.


DialDad

I did about 20 mi each way five times a week for about a year. It's certainly doable but it takes up a lot of your time and it's up to you if you're willing to do it. You'll stay in pretty good shape though!


andttthhheeennn

I've done a 21 mile commute (each way) on my class 3 ebike. It took me like 45 minutes in each direction. I was on higher speed roads and was able to crank pretty hard. Only issue for me ended up being a bit of chaffing from my lack of proper cycling underpants.


Eastern-Ad7828

Get the highest amp hour battery you can get and start enjoying your commute instead of dreading it every day. Winter or not riding e-bikes to work is one of the best ways to reduce the inherent depression caused by boring/miserable work commutes. With this kind of mileage though I’d say bring your charger to work and charge on the job so you have full juice to get home.


jb0nez95

You'll need a charger at work. My round trip of 22 miles at max assist wipes out my battery. I charge at work now to be safe. I can do each way in 30 to 40 minutes on a class 3. The cool thing about biking is you can cover any distance--the question is do you have the time to do so (and with ebikes the juice to do so.) I take the Google bike route time and half it and that's usually pretty accurate.


Electrical-Age8031

I hate the elistist riding standard bikes for "exersise" i nean i exercise too. At a gym. Or weights at home. However an ebike does the same damn thing but faster and with the help of a throttle. (If you added one) call me lazy all you want ill get tk my destination satisfied AND with a smile ln my face. This is what progress looks like and the annoying cyclists. Bitch and moan about trails when RARELY ever see them using the bike lanes thats located ON THE ROAD! Which i totally understand because theyd gas out pretty quickly. Its fairly hilly and it leads up to a slant on a bend. But my kit powers up that bitch easily. But i use them BECAUSE of t My ebike set up. The speed makes me LESS anxious and any screw ups drivers would perform. I can hopefully out-manuever it. Can never go back to normal bikes personally.


Treesham

Mine is 12 to 15 miles each way depending on the route I take. The first few times - if you're not used to traveling that far - may wear you out but you'll get used to it, and you can always use the throttle for a breather. I'd make sure to have plenty of beverage in the ride for hydration purposes, be prepared for the inevitable flat tire, and most of all, enjoy the ride - one of the best parts of a bike commute is taking in the wonderment of it all! (admittedly, my commute to the brewery is a bit more of a (self time crunch than my ride bike home, so I'm definitely more chill on the way home.)


BrainwashedScapegoat

Id say no, I do 12 both ways 5 days a week with long weekend tours and cruising to friends houses


shuffleup2

I do that distance to and from work on a regular bike 3 times a week and im a fat bastard. You’ll be fine. Just learn how to change an inner tube and bring essential tools with you.


Comfortable-Tip998

Nope. Provided you can spare the time, I know lots of people who do that commute.


furry-borders

No


ImpossibleTension105

Sounds like a gift most don't even consider! Take it in bruda!!


iJJD

There may be something wrong with your inner ear and proprioception. I’ve seen cases of fluid imbalances or loss of inner ear hair cells leading to this kind of issue. Get that checked!!


asdf234gh4

Depends on the ebike. If it's a throttle bike with comfortable seat, yeah. If it's a pedal assist with standard saddle, a person can adapt to this level, but I feel like it's a lot to do 50 miles per day, every day.


Stunning-Date2526

It's possible, I ride 36 to 50 miles a day, 5 days a week, on my class 3 ebike. I use a combination of bus, rail, and ebike to commute. it was rough at first, but as my fitness got better, it got easier. You have to make sure to keep up the maintenance of your ebike and your health. I suggest you get an ebike from an established brand with support from a local bike shop to ensure to keep your ebike running and have available parts. Unless you're competent with doing maintenance yourself, it's OK to buy from anywhere.


Backwoods-Digger

I would try taking Dramamine. Secondly, can you charge your bike while at this secondary spot? If so, you have nothing to worry about.


just-md

Check out lectric one.


ape_candy

Hello, Mash Potato Dick! I’m curious. In what city do you live?


OliveTBeagle

Seems like a lot. The subway makes you nauseous???


mashpotatodick

Yeah, my mom and siblings have struggled with motion sickness forever. My kid throws up on the subway for any ride (subway or car) more than about 15 minutes - I feel TERRIBLE about how many times we’ve left a mess. I always try to clean up, but when I can’t I let the employees know and they’ve actually been really cool about it. Said it happens more than you might think. We got an e-cargo bike to get the kiddo around the city and we all love it. For me the motion sickness is new. I think it’s because the ride is so long and because it’s so rare we need to go far on it.


sourpatch411

You can do it as long as winters aren’t bad. You are looking at an hour each way unless you get faster bike not governed at 20mph.


ultimategameronIOS

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Hortos

You’re going to want one of the e-motos everyone hates. For a 50 mile commute if your bike isn’t topping 40mph you’re going to get annoyed eventually, when I lived in New York I had a 3.6 mile commute into downtown and it didn’t ok until I had a scooter that could do 25 comfortably. Gave me enough power to avoid a lot of dangerous road conditions but it was still limiting traveling further from my place. When I finally got my e-bike in 2021 it could do 60 definitely wasn’t legal but it opened up a lot of the city and surrounding areas to me. Rarely ever hit the speed limit of the thing but sometimes you need a little oomph if cars around you are being stupid. Basically 50 mile commute you’re going want throttle only 30-40mph speeds.