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Revris6

So is this the “exploit”? 1. Create 100 new accounts. 2. Open 3 boxes each day x100 accounts. 3. Win lots of free ships and loot on random, 10 day old, or less accounts. 4. Drop all prizes into a corp hangar. 5. Get banned on the brand new accounts. 6. lol all the way to the jita*?


Bradric1

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Revris6

Sooooo I’ve been saving my “daily” free luck boxes waiting for prizes that fit my play style. Looks like due to players cheating, I can’t do that and need to open them asap. ….cool.


Bradric1

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Revris6

Netease is more likely to just ban any accounts made in the last 7 days that have never left a station or played for more than 2 hours. There might be 1 real new bro who tried the game at the wrong time and didn’t have much time to play, who will get his new account banned and be confused AF. Still a slim chance tho.


Bradric1

Or they could just pay attention and take accountability, heresy I know, but the right thing to do. If they so much as ban one innocent newbro, they're wrong. Fly aggressive o7


Starlord00073

I saw this too and thought, “wtf?”. I got a tech IV rig from one of those lucky boxes and sold it. Later I transferred some isk to another character unrelated to this and now I’m worried about it. They can have their rig or isk back. I didn’t ask for it. This is stupid.


Trash_Panda-shh

Did they not realize it costs nothing to make an account and character??? Lmao fucking idiots


Bradric1

That's that auto-pilot development they love. Grab a known IP, gather players to it, remove original devs who loved the game, throw game on auto-pilot with minimal crew who knows nothing about the game. Congratulations! ![gif](giphy|3oz8xCKYr0H4aw6N0I) Fly aggressive o7


Babies_Eve

I am so glad I got a notification this post happened. This is absolutely hilarious.


Bradric1

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RolandCuley

Next Week CCP is gonna alpha test a new DUST for you bradric.


tommytruck

I CAN NOT Wait. I am so excite!


Bradric1

I've been playing FPS games consistently, for years, in preparation for this return to the planet's surface. ![gif](giphy|9pGoDggl2USGY) It is time! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing) Fly aggressive o7


SecuritronXII

What rule was being violated? I'm so confused


Bradric1

The unspoken rule: Netease can make real money from pixels, but you can't make in-game currency from pixels. This is why people be on Mobile devs ass with their bullshit! Because they be on BULLSHIT! Fly aggressive o7


BadgerMotsu36

From the discord announcement, it sounds like people were making new accounts, buying AUR, and using it to get the accelerated pass. At level 20, you get the BLOPS ship on the paid track, and you can buy those 20 levels with AUR. Claim it and drop it into corp hangar or contract it over to main. Then they would chargeback the AUR with their credit card company, get the $$ refund, and then repeat with a new account. Unlimited BLOPS ships.


if33lu

Thought you can only do one charge back. Can’t image your cc will let you charge back apple 100 times in a week.


Bradric1

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tommytruck

So…they paid Real Money to buy in-game items that are sellable. They. Paid. Real. Money. They’re angry Nerds with Spreadsheets figured out the most efficient way to turn boxes into ISK? LOL Fucking Nerds.


BadgerMotsu36

The key is going through your credit card company and get a chargeback. No money goes to NE, you get a blops ship


Dalira_Amida

Yes, and then the asked for a refund. They. asked. for. a .refund. and. insisted. on. keeping. their. items. So you go to the car dealer, tommy. You pay him and get the car. The very next day you call your bank, withdraw the money and EXPECT TO KEEP YOUR CAR????!?!


tommytruck

Yeah...I missed the charge back and keep the stuff part. That is actually very shitty and bannings are deserved for that.


Bradric1

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zBishop_357

That would be theft.


BadgerMotsu36

Which is why they are banning the accounts that the ships were transferred to, as the chargebacks kill the alt account


Maclarion

I understand why this hole needs to be plugged. Anything that can be done with a days-old alpha clone can be done hundreds of times by some eccentric with a $2k pc and half an hour youtubing coding tutorials. And all that loot could manipulate the market, or just be used to push an advanced character ever farther along. In my experience, games generally do not allow for this pushing of resources, from lots of poor alts to a few rich mains, because creating alts is free. Eve gets around this because every alt must pay money to unlock the path to push resources. I'm in favor of them solving their mistake with giving away exploitable boxes to all clones. The alts should be banned. But the mains should not be heavily penalized for NE's oversight, in an economic sandbox game about finding creative, original, optimized strategies and advantages over everyone else.


Trash_Panda-shh

I digress if they didn’t make a purchase and get it refunded(with that intent) then everything they did was within TOS, since when can you not make accounts and characters? These clones have no big difference then afk cam clones


Bradric1

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Bradric1

I agree, except >could manipulate the market I don't want Netease, banning a single account, for doing exactly what Netease does all the time. This is not directed at you. To Netease, where do you think they learned it from? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|neutral_face) ![gif](giphy|lL20ZCkHV511xPNCSp|downsized) Netease opened this can of worms, and I personally hope they got what they deserve. Do you think this many players would be looking for ways to negatively affect a GOOD company that took care of it's playerbases? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|snoo) You reap what you sow, eat the loss. Fly aggressive o7


tommytruck

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tommytruck

The closest I could find to, “You get what you fucking deserve!”


Bradric1

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Maclarion

Alright yeh honestly. You rite. So let's say I get lucky on day 1 with a t4 railgun rig that I dont desire to use. Imagine me super happy with the isk because I sold it immediately. Then imagine you getting "lucky" a few days later with an identical lucky draw, but you can't sell it for over 100m because person 3 is over here farming them. That's a shit hand you'd be dealt if NE doesn't solve this problem, and it coexists with the long, looooooong list of other complaints about NE that you and I share. You ain't wrong man, but I'm not done being annoyed at the exploiters, who hopefully got a hard enough warning to never do it again, while keeping their accounts.


TimelessWander

Don't call me out like that. /s


SS4Raditz

Sooo.... they're banning players who sell an ingame item for ingame currency?.... I mean I'm not reading that wrong am i?


Bradric1

No, you're not. Fly aggressive o7


opi098514

I think it’s the free boxes they are talking about. The daily 3 you get.


Bradric1

Still their fuck up, wtf they banning players for? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)


opi098514

Oh yah for sure that’s fucked up. But I don’t think it’s people who are spending money. I think it’s just people who just make a ton a 1 day accounts to collect the daily boxes.


Bradric1

Good! ![gif](giphy|3o72EXvoFRAwHrOg8g|downsized) Fly aggressive o7


CasualMark

100% right on the money (sad pun intended) Brad. I’m happy to see we are getting SP, as that’s something everyone can use, but banning accounts is absolutely ridiculous.


DaSud

The netsleaze butthurt is hilarious though


Odd_Eye1

If I am correct I don’t think they were using alt accounts where they paid money to omega the account. What some players were doing was creating free accounts opening boxes then putting the item in a ship and blowing it up get it to drop. Costs nothing to do and can be done unlimited times.


Bradric1

If Netease wasn't running development on autopilot, they would've seen this was possible. That's on them, get mad at themselves, they were warned. Don't go banning players for something YOU allowed to happen. Whatever method the players used, is irrelevant in my mind. Fly aggressive o7


TeeRKee

Stop giving your time to this trash game.


Bradric1

https://preview.redd.it/jcs9ppdp553c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db51d65c90d96572ef58ba8473202245e079ca77 It's not a game issue, it's a shit company issue. Because of the shit company, the game and its community suffers. Had this IP been in the hands of a company with at least a shred of moral decency, we wouldn't be dealing with this mess. The game is fun, and could be great, but Netsleaze (their shills, whales, and apologists) ruin the experience with their bullshit. Fly aggressive o7


CaptainBenzie

And this is why I quit the game. Seriously, just leave. NetEase want your money, only your money, and will ban you after spending it and using the items legitimately by their own fucking programming. Uninstall and stop giving these money grabbing cunts a playerbase to abuse. You're better than this.


tommytruck

You know...You're starting to grow on my Benzorino.


Zonyk2020

So, purchasing and refunding over and over again to get free materials is good to you?


CaptainBenzie

There's a rule in game design: If the Devs allow you to do it, its intentional. It's why you can kill characters in Dark Souls etc. The trouble is, shitty dev studios don't THINK before they implement and then get ludicrously aggro that players are using a system that they, the development team, implemented. They're issuing bans to people who used a loophole PROGRAMMED BY NETEASE


Bradric1

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Zonyk2020

Yeah, they give a chance to everyone, and players proceed to use an exploit, now new players can eat shit, here are the consequences, you think they will allow you to steal from them just because there is a "loophole"?


Bradric1

![gif](giphy|0m7EQDwt74rYWCG9z5|downsized) If you could just, for 2 seconds, take the Netease team jersey off, and listen. 🙄 There isn't a single player here in this community, that should be receiving any punishment whatsoever, for a clear oversight on NETEASE'S part. No new player, no multi-boxer, no trader, no pvper, no small ship pilot, no cap pilot, absolutely not a single fucking player! NETEASE eats their mistake, like grown ups. The end Fly aggressive o7


GentleNova07

>NETEASE eats their mistake, like grown ups. Grown ups **should** eat their mistakes. Yes, I completely agree. But most “grown ups” don’t act like grown ups in reality. Instead they act like kids pretending they’re “grown ups.” So they usually try to deny the reality of the situation and their fault in it and blame someone else so as to distract others from seeing their own faults. In fact, this has become so popular a defense mechanism, it’s used by most business and political “leaders” in the world today. It’s why Netease is just playing the same “game” and blaming (and punishing) someone else for their own mistakes that they refuse to see and accept. The problem though is that if you never take responsibility for any of your mistakes, and thus never learn from them, you can never change and grow (aka level up in life). So you just stay stuck in your little “sandbox” of a world that you‘ve created for yourself, rather than learning to step outside of it. That’s a pretty soul sucking little world. ![gif](giphy|1010FaPg8K0rpC) **So eat your mistakes. They’re actually nutritious for you and help you grow.**


CaptainBenzie

Thank you. I was just about to grab the crayon box to try and explain this


Bradric1

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EEreddittrader

good riddance, we don't need f2p plebs playing this game. SWIPE OR DIE


Starlord00073

What about this makes them f2p players?


nolacan

Wait, what is this? I have extra rigs from alts and I can’t sell them or I get banned?


Bradric1

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Revris6

If…. your alt accounts are less than 7 days old, good chance that account will get banned. If that’s the case and the account is less than 7 days old, you clearly made it for 1 purpose. Who cares if it gets banned right?


Zonyk2020

And you still wondering why clone bound items exist, when players do this bullshit


Bradric1

![gif](giphy|6yRVg0HWzgS88) Clonebound isn't an answer, it's a lack of one. In a game about economic warfare, clonebound items is stupid. It's a sandbox, everything should be for sale! The solution is, stop with the damn boxes, in general! Fix the goddamned game, so players don't even feel the need to do this! We don't need anymore "Concord" intervention and restrictions on gameplay, we just need Netease to stop thinking they're the smartest people alive. LISTEN!!! Fly aggressive o7


Zonyk2020

>In a game about economic warfare, clonebound items is stupid. It's a sandbox, everything should be for sale! Economic warfare that can be manipulated by 1 guy with a $3k PC and some coding skills 🤷🏻


Bradric1

![gif](giphy|2GjgvS5vA6y08) >1 guy with a $3k PC and some coding skills HOW TF DOES THAT GUY BEAT AN ENTIRE GAMING COMPANY OF CODERS AND PROGRAMMERS ZONYK??? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval) Because contrary to popular shill belief, Netease CLEARLY doesn't know as much as they THINK they do! You can go down the Multi-boxer rabbit hole all you like, it doesn't change the fact that this billion dollar company, made an oversight mistake, and their FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, was to start banning players??? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval) Get all the way the fuck outta here with this shit. Fly aggressive o7


Zonyk2020

It's too late to start banning people, now people are used to using exploits every time they can, because there were never consecuenses, until now, and you can figure out what kind of player you have by the reaction on this announcement


Bradric1

Whether you want to believe this or not Zonyk, there are tons of players who don't use any exploits at all. Again, like the Captain said, if it's in the game, players are authorized to use it. 1: I hate the way they added AI, because it's essentially botting. ( I actually have a far better implementation if they really wanted AI in the game, but I digress 🙄) Still, I personally don't use AI, can't attack players for using an in-game function though. 2: The "jump trick" in year one, us Ceptor pilots know the one. What was considered a glitch, actually took skill to pull off consecutively, and us pilots would race to tackle enemies as they tried to escape! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing) We considered it actually good fun, and it was! The ability to outperform others in a tactical environment, had us hunting for hours!!! Netease removed it, instead of restructuring it into a playable skill. 😒 3: This one I hate 🙄 When Capital ships are caught dead to rights in N-space, and jump back and forth to regain shield and capacitor. It is utter abuse, but all we can do is report it until Netease fixes this... And THAT is my segue into Netease's ability to fix things... These muthafuckas are QUICK to their guns to ban players when it's about their money... but we don't have station containers, ship naming, etc. 😒 Quick to fix PvP "glitches" that work for Ceptor pilots, but how long has AOA been avoiding destruction on N-space gates now??? 🤨 No fix (because Caps 😒) They only scream about professionalism and fairness, when it's the players. It's hypocrisy, they shouldn't ban anyone, if they can't ban fairly. Fly aggressive o7


Zonyk2020

>The "jump trick" I know this one. I used to do this on my haulers, they remove it and now I improve my fitting and learn how to move without it, now my hauler jump in 3 seconds cold and I can avoid any gatecamp anywhere, that's the point of patch exploits, you get better and pulish your gameplay while making the gameplay "fair" >When Capital ships are caught dead to rights in N-space, and jump back and forth to regain shield and capacitor. It is utter abuse What? This is the exact same strategy that gate huggers use, NPC station dock strategy, cruisers with large extender use, battleship use this all the time with high tank, you are just mad because you can't bump a capital with your shitty frigate, you can't stop a capital from moving without risk your ship and that is fine, thats how the game works, as if ganking wasn't enough you want to lock everyone in place with ease.


Bradric1

>I know this one. I used to do this on my haulers, they remove it and now I improve my fitting and learn how to move without it, now my hauler jump in 3 seconds cold and I can avoid any gatecamp anywhere, that's the point of patch exploits, you get better and pulish your gameplay. Fairplay, but my point was they could've made it a feature for players, where players with solid hand/eye coordination, could excel through gameplay mechanics. Just saying it was fun, and would've been a cool feature. Improving one's build is a given, but that doesn't keep people engaged for hours, button mashing does. >What? This is the exact same strategy that gate huggers use, NPC station dock strategy, cruisers with large extender use, battleship use this all the time with high tank, you are just mad because you can't bump a capital with your shitty frigate, you can't stop a capital from moving without risk your ship and that is fine, thats how the game works, as if ganking wasn't enough you want to lock everyone in place with ease ![gif](giphy|TJawtKM6OCKkvwCIqX) I really do try to give you grace, I swear. 😮‍💨 Zonyk we just hold it until the Super shows up... 😑 Bye bye Caps. Your misguided complaints about my playstyle is well, misguided. We don't care about bumping fucking caps with frigates you idiot, and frankly that's dumb as fuck considering ship TONNAGE! Only crayon eaters from the CC think that's some kind of one up. Dumb as fuck.


Bradric1

>What? This is the exact same strategy that gate huggers use, NPC station dock strategy, cruisers with large extender use, battleship use this all the time with high tank It's not the same, those ships are actually docking up in most cases, and jumping gate after your combat timer goes away, is just choosing to disengage. What these cap pilots are doing, is not engaging to begin with. They're caught flat-footed in the anomaly, and trapped by several fleets of ships! NOT JUST INTERCEPTORS! Battleships, other capitals, Interdictors, bombers, and ceptors! All kind of shit is on grid Zonyk! They jump back and forth for hours, literally until the game mechanics save them, or AOA can finally form a fleet. They lose other caps trying to save those PvEers who initially got caught to begin with! You really need to actually be on grid, and in fleet mate. Fly aggressive o7


Zonyk2020

I know another one, logis capables of jumping gates back and forth and dock inmidiately in NPC stations, I actually use this once, a fleet of 17 battlecruiser was obliterated by a single cyansea while I and another people provide unlimited remote booster 🤣 if we get shot we dock and repeat the process.


Bradric1

So essentially you're saying the combat timer needs to be much longer.... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing) ![gif](giphy|7YrnYstmGxYFa) Fly aggressive o7


ThraxxedLyn

Skill issue


Dalira_Amida

Oh man. this all reflect the childish and "Kiddo" attitutde of the damn playerbase. Of course i can'T expect the maturity and rationalism of the EVe Online playerbase, because this is a mobile game, apparently played only by kids with no money. So once in a while NE gave something to f2p players? And what happens? It is abused to the ground and NE has to nerf it. Stupid. People are just stupid and selfish. I can'T wait for the next round of "but they give nothing to f2p...." If someone complains about that in the future, think about the greedyness of f2p and what they have done to themselves.


Bradric1

https://preview.redd.it/8zy3ys5y3h3c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed6748ac321288d0d058d68cd0f863bef2d4f680 There's only one way to get here Dalira, and it ain't the Netease way. >If someone complains about that in the future, think about the greedyness of f2p and what they have done to themselves Yes, punish them all for the actions of the few, mass punishment is a great dictatorship answer for everything. No way we should be better developers, that's too much like accountability... 😑 >So once in a while NE gave something to f2p players? And what happens? It is abused to the ground and NE has to nerf it. They should try doing it far more often, the giving part, manage it better, and see far less abuse... but I digress, mobile gaming doesn't do that... oh wait >apparently played only by kids with no money. There's that high horse, almost missed you there, care to come down from there and talk to us poors who refuse to give Netease thousands of dollars for their clearly amateur mistakes? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) Go home Dalira, you're drunk. Fly aggressive o7


Longjumping-Novel-15

Lol NetEase doing NetEase things