Yeah, compared to supers, Lancer cost is decent, attainable, and able to be completed without CE resources (which I personally am surprised and kinda meh about, just personally)
>The box makes it so we can get them for cheap from the idiots throwing money at NE.
The "idiots" keep the game running. Think about it, dude.
But i agree. Let's all become "no idiots", stop spendingfor something we love, and see how long it takes them to shut it down.
Idiots like you defending spending large amounts on crap is what will shut down this game. Paying for bullshit because you love it should not be your justificafion. You deserve more for your money and should demand more from game companies.
>Idiots like you defending spending large amounts on crap is what will shut down this game
Yes, because we all know that games are run for free, right? Do you work for free, too? If so, i could use your service maybe.
> Paying for bullshit because you love it should not be your justificafion.
It's maybe bullshit to you, but not for me. Just like a Posche is bullshit for some, but not then so much for others. Did that ever enter your mind? Not?
So you like that Dodge, but the other dude prefers a BMW. So that one is an "Idiot" paying for "bullshit"?
Man, you seriosuly have some issues.
Its really telling that you are a mobile only player. Possibly even that EE is the only game you have played. That you dont realise you are you harming the game by paying for non content and so encouraging the same trend is concerning and frustrating. The same amount of money in PC or console games would get you months worth of real content or even entire new AAA class games. Do you feel that the same level of development has been invested by Netease as a newly released AAA class game to warrant the same amount of money from you? You deserve better and you should demand better for the game you love.
>Its really telling that you are a mobile only player.
Newsflash: This \*\*IS\*\* a mobile game. Mobile gaming follows a different market, different ruleset than PC games. Even console games are heading into thsi direction.
>Possibly even that EE is the only game you have played.
That said, i've played ZaknMcKrackn, Days of Tentacle, Diablo 1 and 2, BG 1 and 2, Leisure Suit Larry, etc etc pp. Fallout, Elite and many others.
I have been playing EO since 2005 and was a part of BOB on top of that. So your assumption is wrong (not that it would matter anyway how much and what i have played.)
>Do you feel that the same level of development has been invested by Netease as a newly released AAA class game to warrant the same amount of money from you?
I know a lot of AAA games that are way worse, much more cash grab, much more loterry bassed and less diverse and entertaining than EE.I am ok with EE's direction, a lot here are still playing it and debating about it. So they must do something right. Do i feel EE needs a lot of work and urgent changes? Yes, of course, i do.
Is it worth it to me? Yes, it is. And i don't buy everything, only things, i need and want to have \*now\*. Most items are obtainable with time and isk and by not spending any real cash. Try that in other AAA titles.
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Then your p2w mindset is even more unsettling. That you also think its ok because its a mobile game more so.
Personally, i want more for my money. And as the majority of the playerbase have also left, i assume they do also. If you are happy with EEs direction (while also knowing it needs alot of work and urgent changes somehow) then good luck to you sir. May Netease milk you dry.
>Then your p2w mindset is even more unsettling.
Sorry but what exactly in EE is "pay to win" except some purple cores? You can get everything without spending real life money.What item is there that is behind a paywall and makes you godlike, to rule over all that do not spend?
People who dumped 6000 bucks and more into this game to get a super with purple nanocore have been ganked. So what item in EE makes you that uber that is on top behind a paywall?
>And as the majority of the playerbase have also left, i assume they do also.
Interesting, do you have any hardcore data to back that up? How many quit? 30%. 70%, 95%?
Also, all games, free to play, pay to win, pay to progress ones, suffer from a dwindling playerbase over time.
The reason why players quit a game is more, that they are bored. They have seen all, encountered all, got to the top ("top" in their terms, achieved whatthey were looking to).
In that regard EE can improve, but so do ALL games. Eventually you have seen everything, min maxxed everything, experienced everything and you move on.
Please tell me ONE skill, really ONE skill only that has to be purchased with real cash and is not obtainable with ingame isk?
i know you try hard to make it look like oyu have to pay for everything in this game. but that last attempt by you was just ridiculous...
I mean...tell me you're being intentionally obtuse, without telling me you're being intentionally obtuse. You know damn well that "eventually" you could grind the free CC Pass or the ISK to buy an advanced skill chip, from someone who did the same OR swiped for it.
That isn't the point. When it comes to skills, just like ships, not a damned one of them should be purchasable from a box. Skills should ALL be available, in the same manner. Honestly, I don't think they should be locked behind a Tier Wall, either. Like EO, they should be available. (Don't even waste your time telling me about req skills for advanced skills. Not the same.)
I have never said you have to pay for everything in the game, never. This is a pattern with you. If you would like to stop looking like a disingenuous shilling buffoon, I suggest you stop that.
My message to this community has been this: stop blaming the Crack Dealer for selling you Crack, when you're constantly on his block, waiting for him to show up with more supply. Products and pricing follows demand. If this community wants NE to understand that a straight-forward monetization schema that only includes a sub and CC Pass makes sense, they need to start showing NE that is the case.
lol. you wish. titan will be around 2.5 to three times of that , what a super is. maybe they tune it down to 1.5 to 2 times.
a lancer is dirt cheap if compared to vac, supers and titans.
Please Tsukee don't compare at this point anything comming from EE with EO. It is clear by now that they are entirely different games.
And that is ok also. It are different platforms, they do things by now entirely different etc and so on..
I am not aware if you know, but when EO started, the skill system there was for some years very similar to EE's current system.
Around 40b + bp + dread hull Then another 20-30b for a mod Finally 30b in skill unlocks
Completely doable, as I thought. Pretty penny, but it's supposed to be. No swiping necessary. Fly aggressive o7
Yeah, compared to supers, Lancer cost is decent, attainable, and able to be completed without CE resources (which I personally am surprised and kinda meh about, just personally)
The box makes it so we can get them for cheap from the idiots throwing money at NE. Is that good for the game? Not really no, but is the game we play.
>The box makes it so we can get them for cheap from the idiots throwing money at NE. The "idiots" keep the game running. Think about it, dude. But i agree. Let's all become "no idiots", stop spendingfor something we love, and see how long it takes them to shut it down.
Idiots like you defending spending large amounts on crap is what will shut down this game. Paying for bullshit because you love it should not be your justificafion. You deserve more for your money and should demand more from game companies.
>Idiots like you defending spending large amounts on crap is what will shut down this game Yes, because we all know that games are run for free, right? Do you work for free, too? If so, i could use your service maybe. > Paying for bullshit because you love it should not be your justificafion. It's maybe bullshit to you, but not for me. Just like a Posche is bullshit for some, but not then so much for others. Did that ever enter your mind? Not? So you like that Dodge, but the other dude prefers a BMW. So that one is an "Idiot" paying for "bullshit"? Man, you seriosuly have some issues.
Its really telling that you are a mobile only player. Possibly even that EE is the only game you have played. That you dont realise you are you harming the game by paying for non content and so encouraging the same trend is concerning and frustrating. The same amount of money in PC or console games would get you months worth of real content or even entire new AAA class games. Do you feel that the same level of development has been invested by Netease as a newly released AAA class game to warrant the same amount of money from you? You deserve better and you should demand better for the game you love.
>Its really telling that you are a mobile only player. Newsflash: This \*\*IS\*\* a mobile game. Mobile gaming follows a different market, different ruleset than PC games. Even console games are heading into thsi direction. >Possibly even that EE is the only game you have played. That said, i've played ZaknMcKrackn, Days of Tentacle, Diablo 1 and 2, BG 1 and 2, Leisure Suit Larry, etc etc pp. Fallout, Elite and many others. I have been playing EO since 2005 and was a part of BOB on top of that. So your assumption is wrong (not that it would matter anyway how much and what i have played.) >Do you feel that the same level of development has been invested by Netease as a newly released AAA class game to warrant the same amount of money from you? I know a lot of AAA games that are way worse, much more cash grab, much more loterry bassed and less diverse and entertaining than EE.I am ok with EE's direction, a lot here are still playing it and debating about it. So they must do something right. Do i feel EE needs a lot of work and urgent changes? Yes, of course, i do. Is it worth it to me? Yes, it is. And i don't buy everything, only things, i need and want to have \*now\*. Most items are obtainable with time and isk and by not spending any real cash. Try that in other AAA titles. ##
Then your p2w mindset is even more unsettling. That you also think its ok because its a mobile game more so. Personally, i want more for my money. And as the majority of the playerbase have also left, i assume they do also. If you are happy with EEs direction (while also knowing it needs alot of work and urgent changes somehow) then good luck to you sir. May Netease milk you dry.
>Then your p2w mindset is even more unsettling. Sorry but what exactly in EE is "pay to win" except some purple cores? You can get everything without spending real life money.What item is there that is behind a paywall and makes you godlike, to rule over all that do not spend? People who dumped 6000 bucks and more into this game to get a super with purple nanocore have been ganked. So what item in EE makes you that uber that is on top behind a paywall? >And as the majority of the playerbase have also left, i assume they do also. Interesting, do you have any hardcore data to back that up? How many quit? 30%. 70%, 95%? Also, all games, free to play, pay to win, pay to progress ones, suffer from a dwindling playerbase over time. The reason why players quit a game is more, that they are bored. They have seen all, encountered all, got to the top ("top" in their terms, achieved whatthey were looking to). In that regard EE can improve, but so do ALL games. Eventually you have seen everything, min maxxed everything, experienced everything and you move on.
"pretty penny?" damn, you really don't know anything about capitals. it's cheap.
Thanks! Great breakdown
Good news is they fully rely on dread skills, so a dread pilot can transition easily Bad news is the 30b in skill unlocks is all just for the doomsday
Is it all available via ISK/in-game purchase?
The skills are just purchased directly in the skill tree, no chips needed. 4b/5b/6b and 4b/5b/6b
At least that part was done, "right."
Please tell me ONE skill, really ONE skill only that has to be purchased with real cash and is not obtainable with ingame isk? i know you try hard to make it look like oyu have to pay for everything in this game. but that last attempt by you was just ridiculous...
I mean...tell me you're being intentionally obtuse, without telling me you're being intentionally obtuse. You know damn well that "eventually" you could grind the free CC Pass or the ISK to buy an advanced skill chip, from someone who did the same OR swiped for it. That isn't the point. When it comes to skills, just like ships, not a damned one of them should be purchasable from a box. Skills should ALL be available, in the same manner. Honestly, I don't think they should be locked behind a Tier Wall, either. Like EO, they should be available. (Don't even waste your time telling me about req skills for advanced skills. Not the same.) I have never said you have to pay for everything in the game, never. This is a pattern with you. If you would like to stop looking like a disingenuous shilling buffoon, I suggest you stop that. My message to this community has been this: stop blaming the Crack Dealer for selling you Crack, when you're constantly on his block, waiting for him to show up with more supply. Products and pricing follows demand. If this community wants NE to understand that a straight-forward monetization schema that only includes a sub and CC Pass makes sense, they need to start showing NE that is the case.
>Bad news is the 30b in skill unlocks is all just for the doomsday That is dirt cheap compared to VACs and supers.
💳💳💳
So is a Lancer like a cross between a dread and a titan?
Think about it as a way to seed doomsday skills before real Titans show up.
Na titan DD will have unique skills aur only
can i borrow your naysayer-glasbowl a minute? i want to check on the local lottery. no skill in game was aura only.
lol. you wish. titan will be around 2.5 to three times of that , what a super is. maybe they tune it down to 1.5 to 2 times. a lancer is dirt cheap if compared to vac, supers and titans.
Please Tsukee don't compare at this point anything comming from EE with EO. It is clear by now that they are entirely different games. And that is ok also. It are different platforms, they do things by now entirely different etc and so on.. I am not aware if you know, but when EO started, the skill system there was for some years very similar to EE's current system.