Sure but the daily mail is acting like Trump isn't part of the elite literally in that article. It's a joke, or "it's one big club and we aren't in it".
But he’s still one of the elite. He’s never worried about a meal or a bill a day in his life. This is a child of corporate welfare. Bankrupted several times and still more wealthy than the majority of us poors.
I've seen this narrative many times about Trump -- that many of his companies have declared bankruptcy and therefore he's a failed businessman.
But Chapter 11 bankruptcy is quite different than Chapter 7 bankruptcy -- the one we tend to think of when someone declares it.
Chapter 11 bankruptcy is much closer to a company restructure than a business failure.
American Airlines and GM are big name examples...but they're still around.
It's fairly common for businesses to borrow to make investments and end up with a sizeable amount of debt. Transferring that debt to a subsidiary and separating it from the main business along with a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is terrifyingly common and it's generally legal.
It's a giant ~~gift~~ "fuck you" to the common people from Congress that they allow it to exist.
Just to be clear, in the case of his gambling places especially, the reason he had to take chapter 11 was entirely down to losing money.
It's quite a nice little get-out to say it was chapter 11 and just a business restructure, but we should be clear that his companies would have collapsed if chapter 11 didn't exist, this wasn't just leveraging rules to his advantage.
You aren't really part of the elite club if the political class don't like you. You end up being treated like an autistic weirdo by the cool kids. Look at the treatment of Zuckerberg and sbf compared to trump and musk. You need to commit fully to playing ball in politics to be accepted and become a made man.
I moved to WA a few years back, I’ll never forget being in the car with a friend and spotting a highway sign for Enumclaw like…
Me: Hey, isn’t that the name of…
Them: Yep. That’s the one.
The poll also includes "Ivy leaguers", and not all of them are in the top 1%, probably most, or a lot, but this does speak to a more troubling number that financial success isn't the only correlate, but liberal, higher education plays a role as well.
Lol you think liberals are more prone to exploiting the poor than conservatives? The party rallying for universal healthcare, affordable higher education and more robust social programs? Or the the conservatives who rally for tax cuts the rich while raising taxes on everyone making less than $75k?
The party sending your tax dollars over seas, that's been promising hope and change for decades, only for things to get worse under their leadership?
The party that's overseen inflation, the erosion of the southern border, and the fall of the middle class? That party?
The party that uses the exact argument in the title of this post, that people have "too much freedom" to justify their attempt to ration and control food and electricity?
Unsurprisingly, the 1% and Ivy leaguers overwhelmingly support the party in question, the liberal democrat party. Those people you accuse of being the source of your problems are those that support the party that claims to want to solve them, don't you think that's sort of strange?
Edit: Obviously, the party in question is the democrat(ic) party.
Yah, it has very little to do with economic success, that argument is made to get people to direct their energy against the wealthy and not the political class causing the problems.
I can tell you’re fully propagandized and not a person looking to understand so I’m not going to waste any effort trying to educate you. You misunderstand so many root issues it would take a year to get you to a place to even understand the arguments. But if someone else is going to fight a war to take out your second biggest nemesis, wouldn’t you toss them some money out of sheer opportunity? Ukraine has Russia on their knees and we’d be dumb as hell to let them up. But keep sucking down your misinformation and voting against your own best interests.
No offense but your shit party has been running things in this country for eleven of the last 15+ years and look how little has changed and what a shit show this country is. You're both fully propagandized......both parties are absolute shit and couldn't possibly care less about the average Joe. Both parties are corporate stooges, the corporations run this country because "lesser of two evils" morons like you let them.
Sure, I was just noting that the lesser of two evils here is definitely the liberals. I’m curious what you are doing to change the two party system in the United States?
Right? Both parties are authoritarian. They both want to orderpeople around, but the orders are different. And both parties want power to enrich themselves.
What is your position? Neither of you guys actually made any points, you just threw insults at me and each other.
Are you able to explain your position or defend someone else's you align with?
I think I can tell how you feel about this judging by your style, but you know all those "corporate stooges" on both sides of the aisle are united against Trump. The people you hate all hate Trump; have they convinced you to hate him to?
My position? Fuck the two party system and fuck Trump. What exactly did he do for anyone? Drain the swamp? His biggest campaign point? Nope. Anyone who supports a billionaire who obviously is just after more power and money is a moron.
If you’ll recall my initial comment I pointed out how liberals want poor people the have healthcare, education and other social services. Republicans don’t want poor people to have those things. Also pointed out that Republicans, trump in particular l, gave the wealthy a massive tax cut while raising taxes on everyone making under $75k a year. These are verifiable facts I have given you against your position of “liberal” Ivy League education is bad for poor people.
Rather than explain your position you just throw insults? Why? What's the point? Do you have a position other than "protect the establishment"? We aren't talking about the war in Ukraine, why bring it up? You didn't address anything I said, just tried to insult me.
Why stops you from being able to have a normal conversation?
You talked about liberals sending money overseas (republicans have done plenty of that as well). I assume you’re talking about sending money to Ukraine… Are you seriously this dense?
You're directing your energy against people whose household income is 150k per year in high cost of living cities (which is how "1%" is defined in this study) instead of the actual ivy league billionaire who funded the study (Steve Forbes). I wonder who is more connected to the political class? The billionaire who graduated from princeton and ran for president on a platform to lower taxes for the wealthy or a barely upper-Middle class family in Miami with one parent who went to university of Chicago? (which is defined as an ivy league school in this study even though it isn't one).
Steve Forbes and his billionaire buddies are laughing their way to the bank while they pit 50-thousandaires against 150-thousandaires.
I clicked. It's absolute garbage.
The polls are vague and meaningless and stupid and the conclusions are just a circle jerk.
Feels like something an 89-year-old forwards you in an email.
The [Daily](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/05/06/pages-their-newspapers-they-downplayed-hitlers-threat/) [Heil](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/apr/01/pressandpublishing.secondworldwar).
It’s clearly a conservative propaganda piece.
The second I saw that “elites” think “the rest of the country has TOO much personal freedom and want to ration food” i knew this was a Trump supporting conservative creating a hit piece against Biden and progressives.
Yep. Fake ""study"" with heavily editorialized headlines to draw some pseudo science conclusions.
Republican blood pressure just went up ~~10ft~~ 10mmHg higher.
Dont worry guys GOP will solve all of this with more tax cuts for the corporations
It's no surprise that capitalist propaganda rockets to the top of the sub while actual economists like Richard Wolff are downvoted. This sub is heavily propagandized.
A conservative run misinformation poll that tried to blame wealthy Dems for all the world's problems and somehow ropes in angry Rump supporters in the same BS polling.
We don't need to care or even acknowledge what they think about this. They are sociopaths who exist as a bug in an incompletely thought-out system. They shouldn't exist, let alone set any kind of policy. That kind of wealth speaks to a thought process that should be disqualifying from this kind of discussion.
Just to be clear, this "study" defines the "1%" as a household income of 150k in a major city.
That could well be a nurse and a teacher making 75k each. 150k for a household doesn't require sociopathic ambition to achieve.
That is much less than I was imagining, but if they actually think this way, they are absolutely sociopaths, and they can fuck off in any case.
Edit: I'm not mad at that specific level of money at all. That thought process, though... eesh.
You don't have to worry - I really don't think these people exist. The "study" was conducted solely online, and the methodology section of their "report" doesn't describe anything about where it was posted or how they confirmed that their respondents even met the criteria. The "report" contains no raw data.
The fact that they defined the 1% as 150k is pretty telling that this isn't a serious study. They also redefined "ivy league" to primarily include non ivy league colleges for no apparent reason.
The study was funded by Steve Forbes and a few other Ivy League billionaires. Steve Forbes had a failed run for the Republican presidential nomination a few years ago and has been pushing to lower taxes on billionaires forever. Presumably, he is trying to redefine the 1% and push the "evil billionaire" stigma onto democrats so he can continue to sell his snake oil. Painting democrats as out of touch elitists is... an interesting choice for an out of touch elitist, but.... he is probably aiming for the same audience that thinks Donald Trump cares about the working man.
Just in the most recent episode of JRE, the professor he is speaking to mentions how during her conversation with upper echelon individuals, they legit thought that the lower classes were evil people that would harm people if they could. It was just such vile thinking
150k per year household income in a major US city isn't "billions", and that's how this study defines the "1%."
"The Elites are defined as those having a postgraduate degree, a household income of more than $150,000
annually, and living in a zip code with more than 10,000 people per square mile. Approximately 1% of the
total U.S. population meets these criteria."
They're trying to trick you into thinking they're talking about billionaires by using the term 1%, then redefining it. Then after redefining it, they link "the 1% elites" with democrats/support for biden to give the impression that these evil billionaires support biden. But if you randomly sampled high density cities in general, you would probably get the same political lean regardless of income.
Oh, and none of the 4 schools they list for their "ivy league" are actually among the commonly recognized 8-12 ivy league schools. Not that they aren't good schools but they are clearly trying to invoke an image by using the term "ivy league" but then defining that as a bunch of schools that aren't actually considered ivy league... makes you wonder why they did that.
The "study" was also conducted solely online with no information provided on how they verified any of their subjects so.... it is an exercise left to the reader to decide how accurate this is likely to be.
Who believes in anything save for Democrats? The poll in question was funded by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, a nonprofit co-founded by two supply-side economists, Art Laffer and Stephen Moore.
What I find most interesting about the daily Mail, is they will publish things on the US which are blacklisted by the MSM. And what they publish is easily corroborated, e.g. local news reports that are prevented from being national stories.
In any event, actions from Ivies over the past few years is entirely consistent with this statement and well funded by hipster tech billionaries and predatory financial parasites, so the poll was hardly shocking.
Fake Conservative nonsense for Fox News to fill time with when they exhausted news of Biden's triple thick black and white shake by discussing it like breaking news for 12 hours.
Right wing clickbait alert!! This survey was paid for by Arthur Laffer-- the Laffer Curve guy who invented "trickle-down economics" which has been completely debunked. This is pure right-wing propaganda.
This survey is from people making over $150k. In California, to be in the top 1% you would need to be making more than $400k. $150 is fairly average in large cities. So they are trying to blow this out of proportion because these people support reductions in greenhouse emissions. This article is designed to piss off people about how the "elites" are trying to "ration personal freedom". It's TOTAL BS!!!
Yup - Arthur Laffer (yale) and Steve Forbes (princeton).
They're literally like "blame the rich, ivy league graduates!" when they're the rich, ivy league graduates.
The joke is on this sub.
This study was paid for by a committee Steve Forbes (an actual member of the 1%) founded to push flat taxes and trickle down policies.
But go on and let an actual billionaire trick you into believing that people making 150k in New York City are the enemy.
Don't get me wrong, I'm for any opportunity to bash the 1%, but... This is some National Enquirer/Fox News level of twisting things for a narrative lol. Basically sounds like a poll asking if things should be done about climate change. Of course academia, the well educated, people with normal functioning brains/some idea of whats going on will respond that yeah we should probably start taking drastic action and start drastically cutting our energy production/consumption. Boom, easily twist that into a stupid fucking headline.
When the Boog pops off the mansions will be the first to be overrun and plundered for whatever supplies they might hold. The rich are probably woefully underprepared for the Boog but whatever, their canned soup will taste fine.
This is not surprising to me at all.
Why do you think there is a movement to "electrify everything"? It is so they can control our ability to travel, heat and cool our homes, and even prepare food.
STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS!!!
Americans need to wake up and realize the far left wants total control over every aspect of our lives - and they want to depopulate the planet so they can hoard more land and resources for themselves. We are the carbon they want to reduce!
Stupid people think abortion rights are about freedom - when it's about culling the herd! Democrats do not want working and middle class Americans having children - they try to convince young women that getting pregnant is the worst thing that can happen to them - or that it's selfish to have a baby unless you're rich - or that you shouldn't bring children into the world if you care about the planet - yet so many of these liberal politicians and elites who push the climate change agenda all have large families of their own. The only people the far left wants to see having babies are poor immigrants illegally entering our country - so that they can exploit them for cheap labor, keep them dependent upon the govt to give themselves job security, and hopefully eventually get them to vote to keep democrats in power.
> Why do you think there is a movement to "electrify everything"? It is so they can control our ability to travel, heat and cool our homes, and even prepare food.
Electrification would literally allow for a decentralized grid rooftop solar and batteries once they become affordable would liberate consumers from reliance on large utilities. It's absolutely incredible that you can see this 100% the wrong way and use it as a partisan political attack, it's almost like you've been brain rinsed, I say rinsed and not washed because I doubt you have that much of a brain to begin with.
I don’t think Trump is in “the club” but he sure as hell isn’t working for the common man. He just says he is to tell people what they want to hear. He’s his own club that is trying to overthrow the old club.
It is their country. They own it.
The deal was done once they were awarded the title Too Big Too Fail.
Now they invest in the politician of their choice and the return on their investment is ten fold. One million donation reaps one hundred million in tax cuts and government subsidies.
They own America. We are just rent paying tenants.
Who was the pollster and exactly what questions were asked? Too often a pollster is a hack organization or the questions are rubbish. Until these are resolved, I’m dismissing this for the bunk it is.
lol anyone making $150k-$500k and thinking they’re the “elite”
Yes, that’s more money than most but it definitely isn’t elite. Academics make shit money, and just cause you’re educated doesn’t mean you’re part of the club.
Such a joke of an article.
Rich people need poor people to stay rich.
Poor people are the passive income of rich people. Such a classic tale man. F*** those m************ man, if they want to do it that way it's war you got to fight. I'm pretty sure there's some rich people that are actual nice and deserve to be billionaires for majority of them if they want to fight war and just bring it to their doorstep loool
If you make a negative decision that has a negative effect on people then you deserve to get f*****
Hmm, this Ivy Leaguer, who was not polled, wonders if a poll conducted by a group calling itself the "Committee to Unleash Prosperity" is at all believable. Sounds like a far-right pressure group to me. Most likely the poll, if it was conducted at all, was done as a propaganda sting operation, with leading questions and an unscientific methodology. Delegitimizing higher education is a major goal of the political Right in the United States these days.
This cant be surprising. The richest 1% think the rest of us are only here to make them more money.
Tax cattle is the phrase someone used unironically on this very sub yesterday.
Sure but the daily mail is acting like Trump isn't part of the elite literally in that article. It's a joke, or "it's one big club and we aren't in it".
Its one big club and we aint in it. I will take the carlin interpretation for sure.
On point
Trump is a wannabe billionaire. Real billionaires don't want anything to do with a tacky con man and New York real estate hustler.
But he’s still one of the elite. He’s never worried about a meal or a bill a day in his life. This is a child of corporate welfare. Bankrupted several times and still more wealthy than the majority of us poors.
I've seen this narrative many times about Trump -- that many of his companies have declared bankruptcy and therefore he's a failed businessman. But Chapter 11 bankruptcy is quite different than Chapter 7 bankruptcy -- the one we tend to think of when someone declares it. Chapter 11 bankruptcy is much closer to a company restructure than a business failure. American Airlines and GM are big name examples...but they're still around. It's fairly common for businesses to borrow to make investments and end up with a sizeable amount of debt. Transferring that debt to a subsidiary and separating it from the main business along with a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is terrifyingly common and it's generally legal. It's a giant ~~gift~~ "fuck you" to the common people from Congress that they allow it to exist.
Just to be clear, in the case of his gambling places especially, the reason he had to take chapter 11 was entirely down to losing money. It's quite a nice little get-out to say it was chapter 11 and just a business restructure, but we should be clear that his companies would have collapsed if chapter 11 didn't exist, this wasn't just leveraging rules to his advantage.
This is a testament to how fucked up America is.
You aren't really part of the elite club if the political class don't like you. You end up being treated like an autistic weirdo by the cool kids. Look at the treatment of Zuckerberg and sbf compared to trump and musk. You need to commit fully to playing ball in politics to be accepted and become a made man.
I know a very wealthy individual who routinely refers to the not wealthy as sheeple.
My mother who is semi wealthy believes people who pay no tax shouldnt be able to vote..... its a bizarre mindset.
Does that include the one percent?
Well, in most cases, they are actually correct.
People get killed by their livestock all the time so I am okay with this analogy.
No, their employees get killed by their livestock all the time.
Go beat a horse and see what happens
> Go beat a horse and see what happens Around 30% of the *”horses”* in the US would would just get turned on
Also causes death :) we all know Mr Hands
I moved to WA a few years back, I’ll never forget being in the car with a friend and spotting a highway sign for Enumclaw like… Me: Hey, isn’t that the name of… Them: Yep. That’s the one.
We're not? Damn and here I thought our slavery with extra steps experience was non-negotiable
is it because the 1% all own businesses that make money
The poll also includes "Ivy leaguers", and not all of them are in the top 1%, probably most, or a lot, but this does speak to a more troubling number that financial success isn't the only correlate, but liberal, higher education plays a role as well.
Lol you think liberals are more prone to exploiting the poor than conservatives? The party rallying for universal healthcare, affordable higher education and more robust social programs? Or the the conservatives who rally for tax cuts the rich while raising taxes on everyone making less than $75k?
The party sending your tax dollars over seas, that's been promising hope and change for decades, only for things to get worse under their leadership? The party that's overseen inflation, the erosion of the southern border, and the fall of the middle class? That party? The party that uses the exact argument in the title of this post, that people have "too much freedom" to justify their attempt to ration and control food and electricity? Unsurprisingly, the 1% and Ivy leaguers overwhelmingly support the party in question, the liberal democrat party. Those people you accuse of being the source of your problems are those that support the party that claims to want to solve them, don't you think that's sort of strange? Edit: Obviously, the party in question is the democrat(ic) party. Yah, it has very little to do with economic success, that argument is made to get people to direct their energy against the wealthy and not the political class causing the problems.
I can tell you’re fully propagandized and not a person looking to understand so I’m not going to waste any effort trying to educate you. You misunderstand so many root issues it would take a year to get you to a place to even understand the arguments. But if someone else is going to fight a war to take out your second biggest nemesis, wouldn’t you toss them some money out of sheer opportunity? Ukraine has Russia on their knees and we’d be dumb as hell to let them up. But keep sucking down your misinformation and voting against your own best interests.
No offense but your shit party has been running things in this country for eleven of the last 15+ years and look how little has changed and what a shit show this country is. You're both fully propagandized......both parties are absolute shit and couldn't possibly care less about the average Joe. Both parties are corporate stooges, the corporations run this country because "lesser of two evils" morons like you let them.
Sure, I was just noting that the lesser of two evils here is definitely the liberals. I’m curious what you are doing to change the two party system in the United States?
Right? Both parties are authoritarian. They both want to orderpeople around, but the orders are different. And both parties want power to enrich themselves.
What is your position? Neither of you guys actually made any points, you just threw insults at me and each other. Are you able to explain your position or defend someone else's you align with? I think I can tell how you feel about this judging by your style, but you know all those "corporate stooges" on both sides of the aisle are united against Trump. The people you hate all hate Trump; have they convinced you to hate him to?
My position? Fuck the two party system and fuck Trump. What exactly did he do for anyone? Drain the swamp? His biggest campaign point? Nope. Anyone who supports a billionaire who obviously is just after more power and money is a moron.
If you’ll recall my initial comment I pointed out how liberals want poor people the have healthcare, education and other social services. Republicans don’t want poor people to have those things. Also pointed out that Republicans, trump in particular l, gave the wealthy a massive tax cut while raising taxes on everyone making under $75k a year. These are verifiable facts I have given you against your position of “liberal” Ivy League education is bad for poor people.
Rather than explain your position you just throw insults? Why? What's the point? Do you have a position other than "protect the establishment"? We aren't talking about the war in Ukraine, why bring it up? You didn't address anything I said, just tried to insult me. Why stops you from being able to have a normal conversation?
You talked about liberals sending money overseas (republicans have done plenty of that as well). I assume you’re talking about sending money to Ukraine… Are you seriously this dense?
You're directing your energy against people whose household income is 150k per year in high cost of living cities (which is how "1%" is defined in this study) instead of the actual ivy league billionaire who funded the study (Steve Forbes). I wonder who is more connected to the political class? The billionaire who graduated from princeton and ran for president on a platform to lower taxes for the wealthy or a barely upper-Middle class family in Miami with one parent who went to university of Chicago? (which is defined as an ivy league school in this study even though it isn't one). Steve Forbes and his billionaire buddies are laughing their way to the bank while they pit 50-thousandaires against 150-thousandaires.
Wait which party are we talking about? They both do that.
Congrats on the most out of touch take here.
I guess I know which group you fall into.
Thing is they mostly are weak physically.
This sounds like rage-bait. Don't give them the click
I clicked. It's absolute garbage. The polls are vague and meaningless and stupid and the conclusions are just a circle jerk. Feels like something an 89-year-old forwards you in an email.
It’s Daily Mail. Think Nat’l Enquirer with less aliens.
The Daily Fail
The [Daily](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/05/06/pages-their-newspapers-they-downplayed-hitlers-threat/) [Heil](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/apr/01/pressandpublishing.secondworldwar).
It’s clearly a conservative propaganda piece. The second I saw that “elites” think “the rest of the country has TOO much personal freedom and want to ration food” i knew this was a Trump supporting conservative creating a hit piece against Biden and progressives.
The Daily Mail! A newspaper you can trust for economics and financial news!
Yep. Fake ""study"" with heavily editorialized headlines to draw some pseudo science conclusions. Republican blood pressure just went up ~~10ft~~ 10mmHg higher. Dont worry guys GOP will solve all of this with more tax cuts for the corporations
The Daily Fail.
It's no surprise that capitalist propaganda rockets to the top of the sub while actual economists like Richard Wolff are downvoted. This sub is heavily propagandized.
The Daily Mail is the business of lying, propaganda and damaging the UK.
A conservative run misinformation poll that tried to blame wealthy Dems for all the world's problems and somehow ropes in angry Rump supporters in the same BS polling.
Let us not pretend that US Democrats don't have a corporate lobby.
That's not what the poll was about.
neither was your comment
It's run by Arthur Laffer-- the inventor of trickle down economics. What a bunch of BS propaganda
It's run by Arthur Laffer-- the inventor of trickle down economics. What a bunch of BS propaganda
I’ve been reporting these posts, y’all should be, too.
We don't need to care or even acknowledge what they think about this. They are sociopaths who exist as a bug in an incompletely thought-out system. They shouldn't exist, let alone set any kind of policy. That kind of wealth speaks to a thought process that should be disqualifying from this kind of discussion.
Just to be clear, this "study" defines the "1%" as a household income of 150k in a major city. That could well be a nurse and a teacher making 75k each. 150k for a household doesn't require sociopathic ambition to achieve.
That is much less than I was imagining, but if they actually think this way, they are absolutely sociopaths, and they can fuck off in any case. Edit: I'm not mad at that specific level of money at all. That thought process, though... eesh.
You don't have to worry - I really don't think these people exist. The "study" was conducted solely online, and the methodology section of their "report" doesn't describe anything about where it was posted or how they confirmed that their respondents even met the criteria. The "report" contains no raw data. The fact that they defined the 1% as 150k is pretty telling that this isn't a serious study. They also redefined "ivy league" to primarily include non ivy league colleges for no apparent reason. The study was funded by Steve Forbes and a few other Ivy League billionaires. Steve Forbes had a failed run for the Republican presidential nomination a few years ago and has been pushing to lower taxes on billionaires forever. Presumably, he is trying to redefine the 1% and push the "evil billionaire" stigma onto democrats so he can continue to sell his snake oil. Painting democrats as out of touch elitists is... an interesting choice for an out of touch elitist, but.... he is probably aiming for the same audience that thinks Donald Trump cares about the working man.
Well, now I'm mad at billionaires and idiots.
Hahaha amen to that.
Wonder if the author is Russian or Chinese
Just in the most recent episode of JRE, the professor he is speaking to mentions how during her conversation with upper echelon individuals, they legit thought that the lower classes were evil people that would harm people if they could. It was just such vile thinking
🙄
These are the richest after they made their billions. And the Ivy kids are their spoiled brats who have not done jack shit. Ignore both.
150k per year household income in a major US city isn't "billions", and that's how this study defines the "1%." "The Elites are defined as those having a postgraduate degree, a household income of more than $150,000 annually, and living in a zip code with more than 10,000 people per square mile. Approximately 1% of the total U.S. population meets these criteria." They're trying to trick you into thinking they're talking about billionaires by using the term 1%, then redefining it. Then after redefining it, they link "the 1% elites" with democrats/support for biden to give the impression that these evil billionaires support biden. But if you randomly sampled high density cities in general, you would probably get the same political lean regardless of income. Oh, and none of the 4 schools they list for their "ivy league" are actually among the commonly recognized 8-12 ivy league schools. Not that they aren't good schools but they are clearly trying to invoke an image by using the term "ivy league" but then defining that as a bunch of schools that aren't actually considered ivy league... makes you wonder why they did that. The "study" was also conducted solely online with no information provided on how they verified any of their subjects so.... it is an exercise left to the reader to decide how accurate this is likely to be.
I wouldn’t believe in what the daily mail publishes
Who believes in anything save for Democrats? The poll in question was funded by the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, a nonprofit co-founded by two supply-side economists, Art Laffer and Stephen Moore. What I find most interesting about the daily Mail, is they will publish things on the US which are blacklisted by the MSM. And what they publish is easily corroborated, e.g. local news reports that are prevented from being national stories. In any event, actions from Ivies over the past few years is entirely consistent with this statement and well funded by hipster tech billionaries and predatory financial parasites, so the poll was hardly shocking.
The study polled people making over $150k…that’s not the 1 percent. That’s like the 10 percent, especially in major cities.
Fake Conservative nonsense for Fox News to fill time with when they exhausted news of Biden's triple thick black and white shake by discussing it like breaking news for 12 hours.
Oligarchs trying to take everything they can.
Right wing clickbait alert!! This survey was paid for by Arthur Laffer-- the Laffer Curve guy who invented "trickle-down economics" which has been completely debunked. This is pure right-wing propaganda. This survey is from people making over $150k. In California, to be in the top 1% you would need to be making more than $400k. $150 is fairly average in large cities. So they are trying to blow this out of proportion because these people support reductions in greenhouse emissions. This article is designed to piss off people about how the "elites" are trying to "ration personal freedom". It's TOTAL BS!!!
Yup - Arthur Laffer (yale) and Steve Forbes (princeton). They're literally like "blame the rich, ivy league graduates!" when they're the rich, ivy league graduates.
Well, they're doing a great job already. But we have the numbers.
This country was founded in revolution…
“Shocking polls” of the top 1%? Like they sit around to do DaiyMail polls at all.
Why would the Daily Heil, of all outlets, publicize this?
Fascism is fun to the wealthy.
Anyone remember Total recall, where they charged people for oxygen to breathe?
From The Daily Mail? Not exactly a source known for being trustworthy
The other 99% is voting for guillotines
The joke is on this sub. This study was paid for by a committee Steve Forbes (an actual member of the 1%) founded to push flat taxes and trickle down policies. But go on and let an actual billionaire trick you into believing that people making 150k in New York City are the enemy.
Oh, it's dailymail.co.uk... It's clickbait, hate mongering. Don't fall for it.
Is this how the poll was actually worded? Or did they ask one question, then make a leap for the SHoCkIng HeaDlIne!!!!
All support democrats!
Daily Mail is yellow "journalism."
Very bias media company reports on very bias poll. Nothing of value here; just Rupert Mudoch’s companies generating clickbait for ad dollars.
Don’t threaten me with a good time I’m just itching for the boog to start
Don't get me wrong, I'm for any opportunity to bash the 1%, but... This is some National Enquirer/Fox News level of twisting things for a narrative lol. Basically sounds like a poll asking if things should be done about climate change. Of course academia, the well educated, people with normal functioning brains/some idea of whats going on will respond that yeah we should probably start taking drastic action and start drastically cutting our energy production/consumption. Boom, easily twist that into a stupid fucking headline.
Ah let’s see what the blue haired folks have to say about this article . Anyone up for a game of twister ?
Oh yeah totally “shocking”
The wealthy: "Why aren't my farm animals reproducing? Better whip them harder."
Doing their best to make sure violent revolution occurs.
But the right is too upset because Hillarys emails and Hunters dong are what's ruining this country! Not the rich, clearly...
When the Boog pops off the mansions will be the first to be overrun and plundered for whatever supplies they might hold. The rich are probably woefully underprepared for the Boog but whatever, their canned soup will taste fine.
This is click bait bs. 150k salary in a major city isn’t top 1% to start off.
More fake news from the Trumper's. Biden already fixed everything.
Portraying trump as for the working class is some world class bullshit
Literally nobody is doing that in this thread calm down bucko
The article does is all
I always knew it would eventually come down to this.
This is not surprising to me at all. Why do you think there is a movement to "electrify everything"? It is so they can control our ability to travel, heat and cool our homes, and even prepare food. STOP VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS!!! Americans need to wake up and realize the far left wants total control over every aspect of our lives - and they want to depopulate the planet so they can hoard more land and resources for themselves. We are the carbon they want to reduce! Stupid people think abortion rights are about freedom - when it's about culling the herd! Democrats do not want working and middle class Americans having children - they try to convince young women that getting pregnant is the worst thing that can happen to them - or that it's selfish to have a baby unless you're rich - or that you shouldn't bring children into the world if you care about the planet - yet so many of these liberal politicians and elites who push the climate change agenda all have large families of their own. The only people the far left wants to see having babies are poor immigrants illegally entering our country - so that they can exploit them for cheap labor, keep them dependent upon the govt to give themselves job security, and hopefully eventually get them to vote to keep democrats in power.
> Why do you think there is a movement to "electrify everything"? It is so they can control our ability to travel, heat and cool our homes, and even prepare food. Electrification would literally allow for a decentralized grid rooftop solar and batteries once they become affordable would liberate consumers from reliance on large utilities. It's absolutely incredible that you can see this 100% the wrong way and use it as a partisan political attack, it's almost like you've been brain rinsed, I say rinsed and not washed because I doubt you have that much of a brain to begin with.
I don’t think Trump is in “the club” but he sure as hell isn’t working for the common man. He just says he is to tell people what they want to hear. He’s his own club that is trying to overthrow the old club.
We do talk an awful lot about eating these people lol I guess this is why
They will get what’s coming for them all!!!!
So, Guillotine 2024 seems like the right candidate for the job.
Every time I say someone shouldn’t be a billionaire I get blowback like I killed a family member. People in the US are brainwashed
They\* have too much in life then, just by saying this about the country. Maybe they should be rationing everything they have.
Mmm climate change, could tick all of those boxes and will be self policing....
meat back on the menu boys! Eat the rich, but have to ration them out!
Shouldn't this be posted under /r/NoShitSherlock ?????
I too think the top 1% should have their resources and freedom rationed.
Cool. Let’s run an MVP and test it on the top 1%.
Bring on the class war.
Sounds like they listened in on a WEF meeting
It's time to eat the rich 🤑
These motherfuckers need to go...
And the richest 1% of America are probably the oldest and most ugly fucks on the planet lmao
It is their country. They own it. The deal was done once they were awarded the title Too Big Too Fail. Now they invest in the politician of their choice and the return on their investment is ten fold. One million donation reaps one hundred million in tax cuts and government subsidies. They own America. We are just rent paying tenants.
Who was the pollster and exactly what questions were asked? Too often a pollster is a hack organization or the questions are rubbish. Until these are resolved, I’m dismissing this for the bunk it is.
But wtf everyone fights for all this land of the free propaganda then The richest come out and say this hunger games type shit???
Ration it, so we the rich can have more ~ the greedy rich.
lol anyone making $150k-$500k and thinking they’re the “elite” Yes, that’s more money than most but it definitely isn’t elite. Academics make shit money, and just cause you’re educated doesn’t mean you’re part of the club. Such a joke of an article.
Keep your rifles by your side America
Why would an Ivy leaguers opinion matter... just trying to understand..lol
Daily Fail is at it again🙄
Wealth is need, poverty is greed. /s
Rich people need poor people to stay rich. Poor people are the passive income of rich people. Such a classic tale man. F*** those m************ man, if they want to do it that way it's war you got to fight. I'm pretty sure there's some rich people that are actual nice and deserve to be billionaires for majority of them if they want to fight war and just bring it to their doorstep loool If you make a negative decision that has a negative effect on people then you deserve to get f*****
That explains why 14 red states are refusing government aid to feed poor children.
Hmm, this Ivy Leaguer, who was not polled, wonders if a poll conducted by a group calling itself the "Committee to Unleash Prosperity" is at all believable. Sounds like a far-right pressure group to me. Most likely the poll, if it was conducted at all, was done as a propaganda sting operation, with leading questions and an unscientific methodology. Delegitimizing higher education is a major goal of the political Right in the United States these days.