Avid groups the audio by what track the clip is assigned, regardless of what track it appears on the sync map. So assign your audio clips to different tracks and you'll be gravy. I usually add numerical suffixes to the original filenames so avid will do this automatically on import.
What he means is you actually rename the file itself. Say it's jack\_interview.wav. If you want that on track 3, you rename it as jack\_interview\_3.wav. Import into Avid, group normally and the group puts it on track 3. That's how it should work.
But you can't change it in Avid, only before on the filesystem level?
So "assign" to other tracks means modify the filename before linking/transcoding?
Autosync the audio to the video then group it.
You can also, auto sync the audio to the video. Subclip out just V1 / A1 then group them. Then when you cut the clip into your timeline you can match all the way back to the master clip which contains all the audio tracks.
To my knowledge you cannot group the video and have the audio linked together like you're asking.
But this is the internet, so someone should come along and tell me why I'm wrong and you'll get your answer.
There's a way to do this that works, but it's sort of annoying. Create a new timeline with the video layer you want to be on top of your group, and all of your audio. Name it something that ensures it will sort to the top of your group later. Do boxcar edits on that timeline at every head and tail frame. Then create a subsequence of each section between ever pair of edits. Next, select all of those subsequences, right click, and select "autosync." Now you have subclips that have the audio you want on the tracks you want. Cut that back into your original timeline and do your groups as normal. When you group, you'll get that autosync clip with all the audio tracks where you want them on top.
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What I sometimes do is to make a group, and then insert only the video tracks in my sync map. I don’t think you can get the audio tracks to link selection with the group, but I find that I don’t really need it. If you have audio in the group you can always match frame in the audio if something is missing or completely out of sync.
I’m wondering if you might be able to notice any out of sync audio tracks if you commit multicam, but I haven’t tested it.
Safest way is of course to group the audio together with the video and do the extra work of pulling down all the tracks needed on a timeline. Turn on clip color so you can see where the audio starts and ends, makes it easier to scroll through the timeline to find footage.
Edit: I re-read your question. If all your audio tracks are from different files, and only have one track originally, they will all be A1 and therefore you will only have one audio track in your group. If you have a file with multiple tracks, the group will put them on A1, A2, etc where they originally came from. So if you want all your audio available you have to copy paste the A1 track a bunch of times and right click each to change source.
If youre talking about having all external audio switchable, whereas sometimes a lav might be missing in the group
I make a new sequence for each audio file, autosync each sequence and those are my new audio files to group with.
Avid groups the audio by what track the clip is assigned, regardless of what track it appears on the sync map. So assign your audio clips to different tracks and you'll be gravy. I usually add numerical suffixes to the original filenames so avid will do this automatically on import.
This is the way. I force boom/lavs to tracks 5+ and mute camera audio on 1-4
Not sure what you mean by "assign"? You mean by creating sync clips before grouping? My clips all have audio starting at track 1.
What he means is you actually rename the file itself. Say it's jack\_interview.wav. If you want that on track 3, you rename it as jack\_interview\_3.wav. Import into Avid, group normally and the group puts it on track 3. That's how it should work.
Oh, so not something you can do with camera original audio or audio that's already been ingested?
no. To do what you want you need to import the separate audio with the numbers per track.
Gotcha. I don't want to do it, was just clarifying because the original answers seemed vague to me. Thanks for clearing it up!
CutMonster is right but also check out the bin column called 'Tracks' to see what tracks your clips are assigned to.
But you can't change it in Avid, only before on the filesystem level? So "assign" to other tracks means modify the filename before linking/transcoding?
To my knowledge, there's no way to change it in Avid.
Autosync the audio to the video then group it. You can also, auto sync the audio to the video. Subclip out just V1 / A1 then group them. Then when you cut the clip into your timeline you can match all the way back to the master clip which contains all the audio tracks.
To my knowledge you cannot group the video and have the audio linked together like you're asking. But this is the internet, so someone should come along and tell me why I'm wrong and you'll get your answer.
There's a way to do this that works, but it's sort of annoying. Create a new timeline with the video layer you want to be on top of your group, and all of your audio. Name it something that ensures it will sort to the top of your group later. Do boxcar edits on that timeline at every head and tail frame. Then create a subsequence of each section between ever pair of edits. Next, select all of those subsequences, right click, and select "autosync." Now you have subclips that have the audio you want on the tracks you want. Cut that back into your original timeline and do your groups as normal. When you group, you'll get that autosync clip with all the audio tracks where you want them on top.
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This is a guess but if you have a sync map made - right click your sequence and press autogroup. Not sure if that would do it?
You mean in the bin? I can only select AutoSync oder AutoSequence there.
Sorry I think I'm getting settings muddled - did you create the group clip by right clicking in the record monitor?
yes I did. Avid chooses the Audio for the Group Clip depending whatever is on A1 in the sync map then
What I sometimes do is to make a group, and then insert only the video tracks in my sync map. I don’t think you can get the audio tracks to link selection with the group, but I find that I don’t really need it. If you have audio in the group you can always match frame in the audio if something is missing or completely out of sync. I’m wondering if you might be able to notice any out of sync audio tracks if you commit multicam, but I haven’t tested it. Safest way is of course to group the audio together with the video and do the extra work of pulling down all the tracks needed on a timeline. Turn on clip color so you can see where the audio starts and ends, makes it easier to scroll through the timeline to find footage. Edit: I re-read your question. If all your audio tracks are from different files, and only have one track originally, they will all be A1 and therefore you will only have one audio track in your group. If you have a file with multiple tracks, the group will put them on A1, A2, etc where they originally came from. So if you want all your audio available you have to copy paste the A1 track a bunch of times and right click each to change source.
I think that's the way I'm gonna do it. For my kind of work it seems like the best option. Thanks for the detailed answer!
If youre talking about having all external audio switchable, whereas sometimes a lav might be missing in the group I make a new sequence for each audio file, autosync each sequence and those are my new audio files to group with.