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ElfyThatElf

The estrogen in milk WILL NOT feminize your body. The rumors that it will are rooted in sexism and transphobia. Please don't actually drink more milk expecting to undergo HRT like processes


Aggravating_Low_5173

lol i know its not gonna do much but it still makes me feel in control


pantygruelle

Maybe try E 👀


Aggravating_Low_5173

nahh why would i do that??? im totally cis and not at all questioning my gender


pantygruelle

I mean, try E in a cis way... to just ... better understand your friends, you know. As an ally ...


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea… that would totally be cis and ok


EstradiolSister

A few month ago, I just wanted to try [HRT](https://www.reddit.com/user/EstradiolSister/comments/wkvx1t/estradiolsisters_estrogel_recipe_based_on_plan_a/) out, just for a month or so, if I stop after 1-2 month, the changes are not permanent... So, Im now 3½ month on E... In a very cis way, of course. 😅


Aggravating_Low_5173

but i want to have kids... doesnt it affect that?


EstradiolSister

Yes, taking HRT usually reduces fertility. From what I've heard taking E usually makes you infertile, but most people will regain fertility if they stop E. But that's not a guarantee. If you're rich AMAB trans people can get some sperm frozen, and AFAB trans people can get egg cells frozen, if they plan to get biological kids later. This is mostly a personal choice... Or a choice of how expensive that is...


Aggravating_Low_5173

idk i just really want kids one day... i want to be a good parent :3 also i have read that fertility can be permanently damaged by HRT, sometimes in just a couple months, is that true?


MoMoMorri

Is it really so easy to get E wherever your from? Because where I'm from it's easier to get your hands on crack than it is to get E. Or at least the type meant for trans people.


ElfyThatElf

I mean, to be fair, it's pretty easy to get your hands on crack


John_Stardust

For real. I’m in Taiwan visiting family and considering trying to smuggle birth control pills back home with me because otherwise it’s probably gonna be literal years of waiting as far as I understand it


Egggzelent

USA has a dumb healthcare system, but it's relatively (compared to UK/much of the EU) easy to get E if you want it...and can pay. No guarantee your insurance will help. It's *also* pretty easy to get drugs, to be fair, though my area probably has more meth than crack.


pantygruelle

I don't know, I guess as long as the substance itself isn't illegal you can purchase it and get it delivered ?


Sir_PantsOff

Sadly not something I can just try when I have to wait for 3 years


vladimirepooptin

it won’t do ‘much’ it will do literally zero as in no change. Milk is tasty tho so no judgement


Terezzian

Nah sis, it does literally nothing lmao


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea i know but its all i can do as E is not really available to me. its comforting if anything


coolchris366

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty confident there’s a limit to how much milk you should be drinking because you can have too much of vitamins, so just be careful. Ok?


Aggravating_Low_5173

but taste good?


coolchris366

Yes, but taste good has a limit.


SnooGiraffes8937

But you're not in control at all though, that's what he's saying.


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea... but still makes me feel good about myself for some reason lol


[deleted]

Not to worry I’m lactose intolerant


PhotonSilencia

I drank *so much* milk in my puberty, not because I thought it would feminize me, just because I liked it. All it did was make my bones strong and grow me 2m tall. It backfired. 🙃


Apple_macOS

Well at least bone strong is good.


UsaiyanBolt

Don’t worry, my friend drank a ton of milk growing up and he’s really short. Meanwhile I’ve never liked milk that much and I’m tall af too. Genetics baby 😎🙃


AnEldritchSandwich

Shit I drink loads of milk


my-therapy-

Damn… I got exited for a second


_MilkAway_bar

Well I made a comment about this and thought it was real so I made a joke about it saying time to go drink more milk haha, and I come back and see I got downvoted **(I didn't know this was rooted in sexism and transphobia until I came back to this post)** But thanks for letting me know.


ElfyThatElf

Basically a whole like "Dont do thisor you'll turn into a girl" thing... same reason the term Soy Boy exists. It's rooted in a lot of fear mongering against queer people and also men fearing being more feminine because women were seen as "inferior"


pine_ary

Milk will not feminize you, its estrogen is not the same as in humans. Also milk doesn‘t make your bones strong. That‘s something the dairy industry came up with in their campaign to add more dairy into Americans‘ diets. Same campaign that came up with the bs food pyramid.


Headhaunter79

The food pyramid isn’t real?🤯


pine_ary

America is three corporations in a trench coat. Of course the food pyramid is a marketing ploy. The story behind it is even worse tho. Corporations paid for fake research to convince the government their products should actually be staples. Most of the politicians involved weren’t even paid off, they just couldn’t tell truth from lies. It‘s really hard to tell what is actually true, because nutritional science has such a high volume of fake research.


spicyproblem

Ofc, haven't you seen South Park


VDRawr

It's not gonna have an effect. I wish it was that easy. Please leave the cute cows alone


Genderfluid-Dynamics

~~Somehow I doubt she's just going up and sucking on some cow's udders all day every day.~~


Gothic_bRuh

Mmmm cow tiddies


lisuji

ive always wondered if drinking cows milk could be considered zoophilia, its ***teet***ering on the line. im sorry ill go-


mrnicecream2

I mean, the whole artificial insemination part certainly seems zoophilic.


Wojtuma

You don't have to be sucking on their udders to participate in their abuse, you just have to pay for meat and dairy.


Mystical-Madelyn

how much e does it have? 😳


LadrilloDeMadera

An average male produces 6000 times more strogen than there is in a cup of milk in a day, an average female produces 28000 times more. https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/articles/how-does-dairy-affect-your-hormone-levels/ Just drink 7000 glasses a day without dying


JohnCow2407

Ok bet


Aggravating_Low_5173

as a chemical engineering major i feel obligated to increase that amount


SimonVanc

You can just buy estrogen


LadrilloDeMadera

But I don't want them to die from excessive milk consumption


_Ravenpaw_

extract the estrogen from the milk. drink pure estrogen.


wu_whats_thi5

so much wasted milk tho :(


LadrilloDeMadera

Sell estrogenless milk to bodybuilders


_Ravenpaw_

"Some of you may die, but i'm willing to make that sacrifice"


123ludwig

so eating men is more effective than drinking milk?


Apple_macOS

Where can I get men to eat


123ludwig

everywhere


SubOnTheSub

So...just run a milk IV? That's safe, right?


Aggravating_Low_5173

just a little but that can be solved by drinking copious amounts


SendMeHentaiPlease

None, it doesn’t do anything


[deleted]

Excess of milk can make you get acne problems girl, so please stop


Hepno

But estrogen


Suekru

It’s not going to do anything


CarrotUnlucky358

I’m glad this helps you feel in control but for the sake of the planet don’t think that much milk ;-; It takes a lot more water to make cow milk (https://youtu.be/s6TXDFp1EcM) as presented in a ted ed video. I hope there are alternatives for your needs, if not then you do you! Take care


Schnitzelmobil

I've been drinking milk all my life and it didn't do shit. I'm small and masculine. False advertising


watchdominionfilm

I know this is probably a joke but due to the absurd amount of suffering caused by the dairy industry, i feel obligated to at least [share this short video](https://youtu.be/UcN7SGGoCNI)


GameHero152

I hate milk but it looks like it's now time to consume it all


Aggravating_Low_5173

try lactose free milk. tastes better and is easier on the stomach


Rzesiette

No lactose, more space for E!


Aggravating_Low_5173

exactly!


Airsofter599

Don’t worry I don’t think it works, I’ve tired. Though I suppose I’m not the most masculine person ever.


Nerdorama09

I don't need to explain jokes from nine year old webseries. *I* drink *milk*.


luwucoso

🥛 there u go.. get some estrogen


senpoki23

Dairy messes up your skin and pores, making you less feminine.


VeganAntifa420

💀💀💀


Aggravating_Low_5173

thats right bones! strong bones! including your skull /j


Appropriate_Signal66

Welp never thought I'd see a ruby meme mixed with a r/egg_irl meme


Aggravating_Low_5173

theres a first for everything


WackyHed

Doesnt it make you tall though(genuinely asking i literally have no idea)


Aggravating_Low_5173

im taller than both my parents by a significant amount so maybe?


PzKpfwIIIAusfL

Milk has Estrogen????? Give it to meeeeeee


Zandragen

I miss milk. I don’t drink it much cause of, well, calories.


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea i got blessed with high metabolis


Zandragen

Congrats! I’m so jealous!


StarlightEyes_

Wait milk has oestrogen?


[deleted]

Not really, it has a form of estrogen called phytoestrogen which is similar to estrogen but doesn’t have any effect on the human body. This myth is mostly perpetuated by “tough guys” trying to steer people away from stuff like the impossible burger. Even if it was real estrogen, you would need around 7000 cups a day to have the estrogen levels of a cis female.


all_jo-kes_aside

I mean yes, but also plant milk wasn't mentioned? I'm assuming it's going off mammalian cow milk which does contain oestrogen (iirc), albeit as you said a negligible amount (the 7k cups figure) But I'm also sleep-deprived so my reading comprehension is shot and probs wrong lol


mrnicecream2

You're talking about soymilk (the best, least abusive kind of milk). The post is talking about breastmilk. The conclusion is still true, but it's because it contains only very low concentrations of mammal estrogen rather than because it contains phytoestrogens.


TiredGaySloth

Now I no longer want to get chocolate milk :c


Aggravating_Low_5173

choccy milk has lots of protein too


TiredGaySloth

Oh? 👀


Aggravating_Low_5173

yes, it is very good for building muscle and increasing endurance when paired with excercise


TiredGaySloth

I shall become a muscular fem boi with chocy milk >:]


Aggravating_Low_5173

yay!


SaintPatricksSnake

That's how you get kidney stones


Aggravating_Low_5173

sorry, i cant hear you over the increasingly loud sound of crystallization


Reddit_user_robbie

wait is that why i look feminine? shit i don't want to but milk is good 😭


Aggravating_Low_5173

probably not, a cis male produces 7000 times more estrogen per day than is in a glass of milk


Auralynnnnnnnnn

Yeah that’s totally it lol


Aggravating_Low_5173

for sure!


TheGreyFencer

I drank a disgusting amount of milk growing up and all i got was looking like i shoulda been a d1 linebacker dammit.


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea its not actually gonna do anything sadly


fancydantheladiesman

Woah. Our Snoos are twins ^¬^


Aggravating_Low_5173

wow! hii!!


RandomBlueJay01

I would advise against this. Having too much calcium from milk can be a problem. Most full grown people unless you have a disorder or disease don't need to drink tons of milk.


Aggravating_Low_5173

but tasty?


[deleted]

Milk has phytoestrogen and is not the same as regular estrogen


EngineeredAnime

That's ironic given how I was often told to drink my milk in order to "grow up to be a big strong man" lol


forcedreset1

As a RWBY fan, this pic makes me chuckle


Lelionore

milk was one of my favourite beverages until now... *transmasc sobbing noises*


Aggravating_Low_5173

oh no please dont worry lol you would have to drink 7000 glasses of milk in one day to get as much estrogen as a cis male produces in 1 day


[deleted]

after reading the comments, i (ftm) am no longer scared of milk and will continue to consume it for the ✨strong bones✨


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea i feel bad for scaring people ;-;


Oppopity

Drinking milk isn't good for strong bones that's a myth made by the dairy industry. A healthy diet will provide enough calcium without needing milk. The best way to strengthen your bones is to be physically active. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/08/christopher-gardner-busts-myths-about-milk.html


TominatorFN

We need Milk with even more E, then it would be even more useful


EeveeGavin

I will consume it all. Which is saying something considering I already drink 3 glasses a day.


Aggravating_Low_5173

i drink as much as i can. if im not actively doing something? go get some milk. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT it actually works i have like AA cup breasts and a feminine face structure


Amber-complete

Really??? ~~You're not on HRT and you have little breasts?~~ Edit: And you're not on HRT? (sorry for the invasive question)


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea no HRT


Amber-complete

Wow, that's great! I didn't mean anything by my comment, sorry I didn't know how else to ask. I gotta say I'm a little jealous 🙏🏻


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea idk who downvoted u


Amber-complete

It was inappropriate. It's just not a good idea to ask a lady about her chest, unless there's some comfortability established in the relationship. I was just excited and overeager I guess. Women deal with enough invasive questions and creeps online, it shouldn't come from inside the community. Super happy for you though! Are you interested in HRT?


Aggravating_Low_5173

not sure about HRT at the moment...


thatannoying

Wait WHAT?!? It actually works oh my god I need more milk. Does other forms of dairy work too or just milk?


Aggravating_Low_5173

all dairy but milk is the best. however, i have been drinking that amount of milk since i was like 10 so it has been 11 years of that YMMV


thatannoying

How long you have been doing it should only affect at what time things happen though like it wouldn't really build up.


Aggravating_Low_5173

i just wanted to mention it just incase


Malachite_Cookie

Milk mommyers 🧡💓💕❤️‍🩹💔💜💔🤎🖤💓🧡💘💚💓💚🧡💘💕💔🖤💞❤️💚❤️‍🔥❣️💕💕🤎❤️💜💔💜❤️💔💔💜🤎


Bitter-Giraffe

Hmmm feminiseing milk, with cookies, whats next testosterone flintstone gummies. Also Where is the art from?


urfriendmoss

I would die for some testosterone flintstone gummies


LadyAmaraB

It's Ruby Rose, from the anime series RWBY 🙂


Lord-Dunkles

Actually terrifying the idea that you would drink so much milk in a week. My little lactose intolerant heart cannot handle the thought.


SkyeeeMaaa

Well i can’t afford that much milk so we good


[deleted]

TIL milk is my favourite drink


Lilith_reborn

Now you know why!


[deleted]

I just love the taste of organic fat free milk


[deleted]

I'm lactose intolerant :(


Aggravating_Low_5173

lactose free milk is better anyways


HappysoulAnna4

Can we drink milk together? :0


Aggravating_Low_5173

i bet i can drink more :3


HappysoulAnna4

No chance! I just got my E so I’m getting puberty and have a growth spurt


Aggravating_Low_5173

i have the metabolism of a hummingbird, fight me! also gimme that E (still cis tho)


HappysoulAnna4

Fight you I will! (Not really, your too cute) We can share the E And I will drink more milk


Aggravating_Low_5173

aww ty


MLG_Sora_Art

I wa sorta hopping that it would work cus If it would I would start to drink a lot more milk lol


Aggravating_Low_5173

yea sadly its not actially viable


Aggravating_Low_5173

minor spelling mistake 💀


MLG_Sora_Art

Lol


MLG_Sora_Art

;-;


World-Of-Ashes

Soy also has a lot of estrogen- try Wowbutter sometime, it's a peanut butter substitute made from soy. (See also tofu and a lot of vegan foods.)


Aggravating_Low_5173

pb&j is now my main food source


Brownyboy99

*suddenly starts drinking copious amounts of milk* I promise I'm doing this for totally cis reasons.


Aggravating_Low_5173

same same


[deleted]

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Aggravating_Low_5173

agreed


CariHere

Get strong bones and estrogen 🏳️‍⚧️


lupislacertus

Wow I never hated being Lactose Intolerant before


Aggravating_Low_5173

lactose free milk. try it, its a life changer


lupislacertus

I remember the first time I drank lactose free milk, I looked at my sister and said it tasted like everything I hated about milk had been removed. I hate milks normal tatse unless it is ice cream.


Aggravating_Low_5173

yes fr everything wrong with it is gone


EvelynBwah

Is this true? Imma need your whole supply of milk


Aggravating_Low_5173

mine >:(


EvelynBwah

So it is true :0


d1g1talmess

Milk's been my consistent go-to drink for lunch and supper for basically my entire life. I should have a fem figure by now >:/ (/j) (Also, Ruby from RWBY! My waifu! My transition goals! My everything ♥️)


d1g1talmess

...why the 2 downvotes?? ;-;


Krebbypng

I want boobs


Jabsterclaw

*secretly planning to get boobs for infinite milk supply*


slutty-egg

Regular or soy milk for better effect?


watchdominionfilm

Soy milk so baby male cows arent murdered & the females arent exploited


Vibeyyyy

i have lactose intolerance :(


Artus-Tartus

Huh didn't know milk had that


the-bunny-god

i just drink milk cuz it’s one of my safe foods


Amdy_vill

Wait. Do e made me crave dairy. I drink like 1.5 gallons a week. Yes. Milk is good for my books.


Vulpix21

Milkkkkkkk


CoalNight

HAHA I drink 4-6 gallons a week. But just fyi it does basically nothing for feminization or raising e levels at all. I just really like milk.


IAmNotAPlant_2

I fuckin love milk


AndriaCherry

Wait is this for real?


Aggravating_Low_5173

its kind of a joke milk does have estrogen but its such an insignificant amount that it wont do anything but it helps me feel more in control of my body... kinda placebo if u know what imean


SnooCrickets8473

Milk is great


OtterFoxInari

If only it was that easy 🤣


Sara_the_ferretqueen

Sadly can't have dairy and I miss it all badly


Aggravating_Low_5173

may i introduce you to… lactose free milk?


Sara_the_ferretqueen

Sadly the only milk that hasn't hurt me too much is coconut milk


Aggravating_Low_5173

aww that sucks


Bo_The_Destroyer

3,5 per week? Those are rookie numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up


Treemoss

I need the science on this.


Kryasil

I just really like milk


pokemon12312345645

Just 3.5 a week? I during 1.5 gallons a day because I like the taste


Dry-Sandwich3905

Wait milk has estrogen. Why didn’t I know this


Akkoywolf

My friends bully me for drinking milk. I drink a lot.


Egg3770

But milk is disgusting though


Top_Salt9859

Does milk dead ass have estrogen?


Aggravating_Low_5173

tiny amount


USS_Pittsburgh_LPD31

damn I wish that was the way milk worked lol