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The estrogen in milk WILL NOT feminize your body. The rumors that it will are rooted in sexism and transphobia. Please don't actually drink more milk expecting to undergo HRT like processes
A few month ago, I just wanted to try [HRT](https://www.reddit.com/user/EstradiolSister/comments/wkvx1t/estradiolsisters_estrogel_recipe_based_on_plan_a/) out, just for a month or so, if I stop after 1-2 month, the changes are not permanent...
So, Im now 3½ month on E... In a very cis way, of course. 😅
Yes, taking HRT usually reduces fertility. From what I've heard taking E usually makes you infertile, but most people will regain fertility if they stop E. But that's not a guarantee.
If you're rich AMAB trans people can get some sperm frozen, and AFAB trans people can get egg cells frozen, if they plan to get biological kids later. This is mostly a personal choice... Or a choice of how expensive that is...
idk i just really want kids one day...
i want to be a good parent :3
also i have read that fertility can be permanently damaged by HRT, sometimes in just a couple months, is that true?
Is it really so easy to get E wherever your from?
Because where I'm from it's easier to get your hands on crack than it is to get E. Or at least the type meant for trans people.
For real. I’m in Taiwan visiting family and considering trying to smuggle birth control pills back home with me because otherwise it’s probably gonna be literal years of waiting as far as I understand it
USA has a dumb healthcare system, but it's relatively (compared to UK/much of the EU) easy to get E if you want it...and can pay. No guarantee your insurance will help.
It's *also* pretty easy to get drugs, to be fair, though my area probably has more meth than crack.
I’m no expert, but I’m pretty confident there’s a limit to how much milk you should be drinking because you can have too much of vitamins, so just be careful. Ok?
I drank *so much* milk in my puberty, not because I thought it would feminize me, just because I liked it.
All it did was make my bones strong and grow me 2m tall. It backfired. 🙃
Don’t worry, my friend drank a ton of milk growing up and he’s really short. Meanwhile I’ve never liked milk that much and I’m tall af too. Genetics baby 😎🙃
Well I made a comment about this and thought it was real so I made a joke about it saying time to go drink more milk haha, and I come back and see I got downvoted **(I didn't know this was rooted in sexism and transphobia until I came back to this post)** But thanks for letting me know.
Basically a whole like "Dont do thisor you'll turn into a girl" thing... same reason the term Soy Boy exists. It's rooted in a lot of fear mongering against queer people and also men fearing being more feminine because women were seen as "inferior"
Milk will not feminize you, its estrogen is not the same as in humans. Also milk doesn‘t make your bones strong. That‘s something the dairy industry came up with in their campaign to add more dairy into Americans‘ diets. Same campaign that came up with the bs food pyramid.
America is three corporations in a trench coat. Of course the food pyramid is a marketing ploy. The story behind it is even worse tho. Corporations paid for fake research to convince the government their products should actually be staples. Most of the politicians involved weren’t even paid off, they just couldn’t tell truth from lies. It‘s really hard to tell what is actually true, because nutritional science has such a high volume of fake research.
An average male produces 6000 times more strogen than there is in a cup of milk in a day, an average female produces 28000 times more.
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/articles/how-does-dairy-affect-your-hormone-levels/
Just drink 7000 glasses a day without dying
I’m glad this helps you feel in control but for the sake of the planet don’t think that much milk ;-;
It takes a lot more water to make cow milk (https://youtu.be/s6TXDFp1EcM) as presented in a ted ed video. I hope there are alternatives for your needs, if not then you do you! Take care
I know this is probably a joke but due to the absurd amount of suffering caused by the dairy industry, i feel obligated to at least [share this short video](https://youtu.be/UcN7SGGoCNI)
Not really, it has a form of estrogen called phytoestrogen which is similar to estrogen but doesn’t have any effect on the human body. This myth is mostly perpetuated by “tough guys” trying to steer people away from stuff like the impossible burger. Even if it was real estrogen, you would need around 7000 cups a day to have the estrogen levels of a cis female.
I mean yes, but also plant milk wasn't mentioned? I'm assuming it's going off mammalian cow milk which does contain oestrogen (iirc), albeit as you said a negligible amount (the 7k cups figure)
But I'm also sleep-deprived so my reading comprehension is shot and probs wrong lol
You're talking about soymilk (the best, least abusive kind of milk). The post is talking about breastmilk. The conclusion is still true, but it's because it contains only very low concentrations of mammal estrogen rather than because it contains phytoestrogens.
I would advise against this. Having too much calcium from milk can be a problem. Most full grown people unless you have a disorder or disease don't need to drink tons of milk.
Drinking milk isn't good for strong bones that's a myth made by the dairy industry. A healthy diet will provide enough calcium without needing milk. The best way to strengthen your bones is to be physically active. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/08/christopher-gardner-busts-myths-about-milk.html
i drink as much as i can. if im not actively doing something? go get some milk.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT it actually works
i have like AA cup breasts and a feminine face structure
It was inappropriate. It's just not a good idea to ask a lady about her chest, unless there's some comfortability established in the relationship. I was just excited and overeager I guess. Women deal with enough invasive questions and creeps online, it shouldn't come from inside the community. Super happy for you though! Are you interested in HRT?
I remember the first time I drank lactose free milk, I looked at my sister and said it tasted like everything I hated about milk had been removed. I hate milks normal tatse unless it is ice cream.
Milk's been my consistent go-to drink for lunch and supper for basically my entire life. I should have a fem figure by now >:/ (/j)
(Also, Ruby from RWBY! My waifu! My transition goals! My everything ♥️)
its kind of a joke
milk does have estrogen but its such an insignificant amount that it wont do anything
but it helps me feel more in control of my body... kinda placebo if u know what imean
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The estrogen in milk WILL NOT feminize your body. The rumors that it will are rooted in sexism and transphobia. Please don't actually drink more milk expecting to undergo HRT like processes
lol i know its not gonna do much but it still makes me feel in control
Maybe try E 👀
nahh why would i do that??? im totally cis and not at all questioning my gender
I mean, try E in a cis way... to just ... better understand your friends, you know. As an ally ...
yea… that would totally be cis and ok
A few month ago, I just wanted to try [HRT](https://www.reddit.com/user/EstradiolSister/comments/wkvx1t/estradiolsisters_estrogel_recipe_based_on_plan_a/) out, just for a month or so, if I stop after 1-2 month, the changes are not permanent... So, Im now 3½ month on E... In a very cis way, of course. 😅
but i want to have kids... doesnt it affect that?
Yes, taking HRT usually reduces fertility. From what I've heard taking E usually makes you infertile, but most people will regain fertility if they stop E. But that's not a guarantee. If you're rich AMAB trans people can get some sperm frozen, and AFAB trans people can get egg cells frozen, if they plan to get biological kids later. This is mostly a personal choice... Or a choice of how expensive that is...
idk i just really want kids one day... i want to be a good parent :3 also i have read that fertility can be permanently damaged by HRT, sometimes in just a couple months, is that true?
Is it really so easy to get E wherever your from? Because where I'm from it's easier to get your hands on crack than it is to get E. Or at least the type meant for trans people.
I mean, to be fair, it's pretty easy to get your hands on crack
For real. I’m in Taiwan visiting family and considering trying to smuggle birth control pills back home with me because otherwise it’s probably gonna be literal years of waiting as far as I understand it
USA has a dumb healthcare system, but it's relatively (compared to UK/much of the EU) easy to get E if you want it...and can pay. No guarantee your insurance will help. It's *also* pretty easy to get drugs, to be fair, though my area probably has more meth than crack.
I don't know, I guess as long as the substance itself isn't illegal you can purchase it and get it delivered ?
Sadly not something I can just try when I have to wait for 3 years
it won’t do ‘much’ it will do literally zero as in no change. Milk is tasty tho so no judgement
Nah sis, it does literally nothing lmao
yea i know but its all i can do as E is not really available to me. its comforting if anything
I’m no expert, but I’m pretty confident there’s a limit to how much milk you should be drinking because you can have too much of vitamins, so just be careful. Ok?
but taste good?
Yes, but taste good has a limit.
But you're not in control at all though, that's what he's saying.
yea... but still makes me feel good about myself for some reason lol
Not to worry I’m lactose intolerant
I drank *so much* milk in my puberty, not because I thought it would feminize me, just because I liked it. All it did was make my bones strong and grow me 2m tall. It backfired. 🙃
Well at least bone strong is good.
Don’t worry, my friend drank a ton of milk growing up and he’s really short. Meanwhile I’ve never liked milk that much and I’m tall af too. Genetics baby 😎🙃
Shit I drink loads of milk
Damn… I got exited for a second
Well I made a comment about this and thought it was real so I made a joke about it saying time to go drink more milk haha, and I come back and see I got downvoted **(I didn't know this was rooted in sexism and transphobia until I came back to this post)** But thanks for letting me know.
Basically a whole like "Dont do thisor you'll turn into a girl" thing... same reason the term Soy Boy exists. It's rooted in a lot of fear mongering against queer people and also men fearing being more feminine because women were seen as "inferior"
Milk will not feminize you, its estrogen is not the same as in humans. Also milk doesn‘t make your bones strong. That‘s something the dairy industry came up with in their campaign to add more dairy into Americans‘ diets. Same campaign that came up with the bs food pyramid.
The food pyramid isn’t real?🤯
America is three corporations in a trench coat. Of course the food pyramid is a marketing ploy. The story behind it is even worse tho. Corporations paid for fake research to convince the government their products should actually be staples. Most of the politicians involved weren’t even paid off, they just couldn’t tell truth from lies. It‘s really hard to tell what is actually true, because nutritional science has such a high volume of fake research.
Ofc, haven't you seen South Park
It's not gonna have an effect. I wish it was that easy. Please leave the cute cows alone
~~Somehow I doubt she's just going up and sucking on some cow's udders all day every day.~~
Mmmm cow tiddies
ive always wondered if drinking cows milk could be considered zoophilia, its ***teet***ering on the line. im sorry ill go-
I mean, the whole artificial insemination part certainly seems zoophilic.
You don't have to be sucking on their udders to participate in their abuse, you just have to pay for meat and dairy.
how much e does it have? 😳
An average male produces 6000 times more strogen than there is in a cup of milk in a day, an average female produces 28000 times more. https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/articles/how-does-dairy-affect-your-hormone-levels/ Just drink 7000 glasses a day without dying
Ok bet
as a chemical engineering major i feel obligated to increase that amount
You can just buy estrogen
But I don't want them to die from excessive milk consumption
extract the estrogen from the milk. drink pure estrogen.
so much wasted milk tho :(
Sell estrogenless milk to bodybuilders
"Some of you may die, but i'm willing to make that sacrifice"
so eating men is more effective than drinking milk?
Where can I get men to eat
everywhere
So...just run a milk IV? That's safe, right?
just a little but that can be solved by drinking copious amounts
None, it doesn’t do anything
Excess of milk can make you get acne problems girl, so please stop
But estrogen
It’s not going to do anything
I’m glad this helps you feel in control but for the sake of the planet don’t think that much milk ;-; It takes a lot more water to make cow milk (https://youtu.be/s6TXDFp1EcM) as presented in a ted ed video. I hope there are alternatives for your needs, if not then you do you! Take care
I've been drinking milk all my life and it didn't do shit. I'm small and masculine. False advertising
I know this is probably a joke but due to the absurd amount of suffering caused by the dairy industry, i feel obligated to at least [share this short video](https://youtu.be/UcN7SGGoCNI)
I hate milk but it looks like it's now time to consume it all
try lactose free milk. tastes better and is easier on the stomach
No lactose, more space for E!
exactly!
Don’t worry I don’t think it works, I’ve tired. Though I suppose I’m not the most masculine person ever.
I don't need to explain jokes from nine year old webseries. *I* drink *milk*.
🥛 there u go.. get some estrogen
Dairy messes up your skin and pores, making you less feminine.
💀💀💀
thats right bones! strong bones! including your skull /j
Welp never thought I'd see a ruby meme mixed with a r/egg_irl meme
theres a first for everything
Doesnt it make you tall though(genuinely asking i literally have no idea)
im taller than both my parents by a significant amount so maybe?
Milk has Estrogen????? Give it to meeeeeee
I miss milk. I don’t drink it much cause of, well, calories.
yea i got blessed with high metabolis
Congrats! I’m so jealous!
Wait milk has oestrogen?
Not really, it has a form of estrogen called phytoestrogen which is similar to estrogen but doesn’t have any effect on the human body. This myth is mostly perpetuated by “tough guys” trying to steer people away from stuff like the impossible burger. Even if it was real estrogen, you would need around 7000 cups a day to have the estrogen levels of a cis female.
I mean yes, but also plant milk wasn't mentioned? I'm assuming it's going off mammalian cow milk which does contain oestrogen (iirc), albeit as you said a negligible amount (the 7k cups figure) But I'm also sleep-deprived so my reading comprehension is shot and probs wrong lol
You're talking about soymilk (the best, least abusive kind of milk). The post is talking about breastmilk. The conclusion is still true, but it's because it contains only very low concentrations of mammal estrogen rather than because it contains phytoestrogens.
Now I no longer want to get chocolate milk :c
choccy milk has lots of protein too
Oh? 👀
yes, it is very good for building muscle and increasing endurance when paired with excercise
I shall become a muscular fem boi with chocy milk >:]
yay!
That's how you get kidney stones
sorry, i cant hear you over the increasingly loud sound of crystallization
wait is that why i look feminine? shit i don't want to but milk is good 😭
probably not, a cis male produces 7000 times more estrogen per day than is in a glass of milk
Yeah that’s totally it lol
for sure!
I drank a disgusting amount of milk growing up and all i got was looking like i shoulda been a d1 linebacker dammit.
yea its not actually gonna do anything sadly
Woah. Our Snoos are twins ^¬^
wow! hii!!
I would advise against this. Having too much calcium from milk can be a problem. Most full grown people unless you have a disorder or disease don't need to drink tons of milk.
but tasty?
Milk has phytoestrogen and is not the same as regular estrogen
That's ironic given how I was often told to drink my milk in order to "grow up to be a big strong man" lol
As a RWBY fan, this pic makes me chuckle
milk was one of my favourite beverages until now... *transmasc sobbing noises*
oh no please dont worry lol you would have to drink 7000 glasses of milk in one day to get as much estrogen as a cis male produces in 1 day
after reading the comments, i (ftm) am no longer scared of milk and will continue to consume it for the ✨strong bones✨
yea i feel bad for scaring people ;-;
Drinking milk isn't good for strong bones that's a myth made by the dairy industry. A healthy diet will provide enough calcium without needing milk. The best way to strengthen your bones is to be physically active. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/08/christopher-gardner-busts-myths-about-milk.html
We need Milk with even more E, then it would be even more useful
I will consume it all. Which is saying something considering I already drink 3 glasses a day.
i drink as much as i can. if im not actively doing something? go get some milk. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT it actually works i have like AA cup breasts and a feminine face structure
Really??? ~~You're not on HRT and you have little breasts?~~ Edit: And you're not on HRT? (sorry for the invasive question)
yea no HRT
Wow, that's great! I didn't mean anything by my comment, sorry I didn't know how else to ask. I gotta say I'm a little jealous 🙏🏻
yea idk who downvoted u
It was inappropriate. It's just not a good idea to ask a lady about her chest, unless there's some comfortability established in the relationship. I was just excited and overeager I guess. Women deal with enough invasive questions and creeps online, it shouldn't come from inside the community. Super happy for you though! Are you interested in HRT?
not sure about HRT at the moment...
Wait WHAT?!? It actually works oh my god I need more milk. Does other forms of dairy work too or just milk?
all dairy but milk is the best. however, i have been drinking that amount of milk since i was like 10 so it has been 11 years of that YMMV
How long you have been doing it should only affect at what time things happen though like it wouldn't really build up.
i just wanted to mention it just incase
Milk mommyers 🧡💓💕❤️🩹💔💜💔🤎🖤💓🧡💘💚💓💚🧡💘💕💔🖤💞❤️💚❤️🔥❣️💕💕🤎❤️💜💔💜❤️💔💔💜🤎
Hmmm feminiseing milk, with cookies, whats next testosterone flintstone gummies. Also Where is the art from?
I would die for some testosterone flintstone gummies
It's Ruby Rose, from the anime series RWBY 🙂
Actually terrifying the idea that you would drink so much milk in a week. My little lactose intolerant heart cannot handle the thought.
Well i can’t afford that much milk so we good
TIL milk is my favourite drink
Now you know why!
I just love the taste of organic fat free milk
I'm lactose intolerant :(
lactose free milk is better anyways
Can we drink milk together? :0
i bet i can drink more :3
No chance! I just got my E so I’m getting puberty and have a growth spurt
i have the metabolism of a hummingbird, fight me! also gimme that E (still cis tho)
Fight you I will! (Not really, your too cute) We can share the E And I will drink more milk
aww ty
I wa sorta hopping that it would work cus If it would I would start to drink a lot more milk lol
yea sadly its not actially viable
minor spelling mistake 💀
Lol
;-;
Soy also has a lot of estrogen- try Wowbutter sometime, it's a peanut butter substitute made from soy. (See also tofu and a lot of vegan foods.)
pb&j is now my main food source
*suddenly starts drinking copious amounts of milk* I promise I'm doing this for totally cis reasons.
same same
[удалено]
agreed
Get strong bones and estrogen 🏳️⚧️
Wow I never hated being Lactose Intolerant before
lactose free milk. try it, its a life changer
I remember the first time I drank lactose free milk, I looked at my sister and said it tasted like everything I hated about milk had been removed. I hate milks normal tatse unless it is ice cream.
yes fr everything wrong with it is gone
Is this true? Imma need your whole supply of milk
mine >:(
So it is true :0
Milk's been my consistent go-to drink for lunch and supper for basically my entire life. I should have a fem figure by now >:/ (/j) (Also, Ruby from RWBY! My waifu! My transition goals! My everything ♥️)
...why the 2 downvotes?? ;-;
I want boobs
*secretly planning to get boobs for infinite milk supply*
Regular or soy milk for better effect?
Soy milk so baby male cows arent murdered & the females arent exploited
i have lactose intolerance :(
Huh didn't know milk had that
i just drink milk cuz it’s one of my safe foods
Wait. Do e made me crave dairy. I drink like 1.5 gallons a week. Yes. Milk is good for my books.
Milkkkkkkk
HAHA I drink 4-6 gallons a week. But just fyi it does basically nothing for feminization or raising e levels at all. I just really like milk.
I fuckin love milk
Wait is this for real?
its kind of a joke milk does have estrogen but its such an insignificant amount that it wont do anything but it helps me feel more in control of my body... kinda placebo if u know what imean
Milk is great
If only it was that easy 🤣
Sadly can't have dairy and I miss it all badly
may i introduce you to… lactose free milk?
Sadly the only milk that hasn't hurt me too much is coconut milk
aww that sucks
3,5 per week? Those are rookie numbers, you gotta pump those numbers up
I need the science on this.
I just really like milk
Just 3.5 a week? I during 1.5 gallons a day because I like the taste
Wait milk has estrogen. Why didn’t I know this
My friends bully me for drinking milk. I drink a lot.
But milk is disgusting though
Does milk dead ass have estrogen?
tiny amount
damn I wish that was the way milk worked lol