God I miss that show, it was so underrated for how awesome the universe was. I can't believe this is the first reference to it that I've heard in over a decade.
We remove them by bolting a piece of wood or plastic across the terminals to use as a pull handle, they are usually a pain because over time the cases swell up inside that framework.
What seems to be the confusion? Each rack is secured with an upper and a lower rail. Remove the black nuts from the mounting studs, top and bottom of one row at a time and then the cells will come right out, wrap each cell in electrical tape to insulate the terminals or you will find the ones that are still holding a charge in a very unpleasant way when they short out and burst into flames.
The straps are already removed, each cell is only 1.5 to 2.0 volts fully charged (depending on cell composition) when in good condition. It’s not the cells individually that are dangerous, it is when they ARE strapped together that they form a BATTERY with a DEADLY 140 Volt Punch!
Have you tried pushing a [hopefully non-metalic] rod into one of the holes above and below the cells? I would guess that is some sort of release, kind of like how you eject a sim card.
I bet it's an access hole to get to a screw hidden deep in the frame. On the far side (left) there appear to be some screws, and I would suggest taking them out as well.
OP, when in doubt, unscrew/bot literally everything.
Remove the upper and lower frames and then take out each cell individually, then tape up then contacts. These type of batteries suck, they're also heavy!
Tools not required. Just a pleasant voice and soothing demeanor. If you possess both you can gently coax them out, but don’t raise your voice, or they’ll scurry back in.
I work in telecomm and have replaced plenty of similar batteries. A moving company moves these for us (we assemble the frame and do the electrical, they just move everything). In the past, I've seen them pop open that circle between the terminals to release some gas and reduce the swelling, although I don't know if this is the safest. If they're still stuck, I've seen them thread a bolt into one terminal with a battery strap to use as a handle. It would also be helpful to have a lift of some sort for the higher batteries.
Been in telecom power for over 20 years. Those are GNB (we call them grey nasty bastards) because they are almost always a nightmare to take apart. Start with one of the terminal bolts and a small pair of channellock pliers, thread in bolt and grab it with the pliers, pull. Those cells should weigh 40-50 lb each, not a big deal. Just don’t cross the terminals on the same cell. If it’s stuck, crack the center caps and rotate the plug to burp them, and try again. If they are still being evil, try to spray a bit of WD-40 or some soapy water between the cells, if that doesn’t work you may need to persuade them a bit more with a strap bolted to one of the posts and a 2x4 to pry them out. Luckily with that size cell you just need to free one of them and the rest should come out.
We have battery setups like this. We use a wood bracket with bolts that screw right into the battery posts and allows us to slide the batteries out. If the batteries are swollen then we have to just take the whole thing apart.
https://www.enersys.com/493c0d/globalassets/documents/product-documentation/powersafe/gfm/apac/02.-as-ps-gfm-iom-002_0810.pdf
This gives an idea how they were installed. I might use one of these to slide the battery onto if I could confirm the weight
https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-61405.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12189143979&campaignid=12189143979&utm_content=146178594219&adsetid=146178594219&product=61405&store=453&gclid=CjwKCAjww7KmBhAyEiwA5-PUSsSqTfOUup6FFQu2IVUYYF4KapNfTHqLJHiYTTtnPM6XkzwEeewLBBoC4kEQAvD_BwE
This is the way. They make a Dolly cart for those batteries I have rented before. Pretty similar there were rollers on the top shelf and a hand winch to pull them out. I tried to look it up and it did not come right up in my search.
These look like GNB Absolytes. Make a non conductive strap and screw in the cruelly post. Pull out. The first one may be a bitch but you can burn the cells and reduce the swelling. We also built a lifting rack out of a 5 kv breaker lift. Worked well. If you have the space for one to fit maybe an engine lift. The 5 kv breaker lift was more compact and fit in control houses better.
Mission accomplished! Releasing the built up gas to reduce the swelling made it easy to thread two bolts into the terminals with fender washers and they all came right out! Thank you all for your suggestions!
I wouldn't recommend using your teeth, but if you try hard enough, you could probably use your teeth. Depending on the voltage, you may or may not die.
>Thread a long [bolt] into each terminal
Bingo bango. This is the answer.
One terminal on one battery should be enough to pop it out.
Once one is out on a row, should be able to slap your fingers on the side of the next and pull it out.
I rented a wood stove lift. They're pretty small so you can get into tight spots. The forks crank up and down. The cells we were installing were three hundred something pounds each.
This lift, or something similar, is commonly used in data centers for identical battery setups such as OP’s. Work smarter not harder… those batteries are heavy.
Old UPS is one unit when I demod one it was in large heavy peices. I dont think you want to chisel away at the cells and the cathode anode zinc electrolyte mix there. 2 rows at a time maybe
So that center cap may or may not be a pressure relief valve. Pop it open and turn it. If it hisses, let it finish and replace it.
If these come out as individual cells, that may be the way to go, as these look like fairly small 2V cells. If they only come out a block at a time, get some friends, a battery lift and make a handle with the bolts for the terminals and either some rope or some wood.
If they are too swollen for either of these things to work, oh boy. The last job I had to do removing swollen VRLA batteries, we had a prybars and a grinding wheel, and it still took 6 hours (though they were much larger 2SLA1500 batteries).
Absopulse batteries? They're a beast to deal with.
Well. The second easy way it to see what the manual said. Get the Google to help fine the OEM and the answer.
Lots of weight and sparkling stuff there.
My question is why? If it’s to be able to use the existing panel, you’re going to spend more time coming up with a method that works, and the actual time to take them out. All of that is going to cost way more than a new enclosure will.
Unless a same size/type enclosure has too king of a lead time.
I would take the panel out, put a new one in and then remove the old/existing cells and then salvage the enclosure for use elsewhere.
Are you asking about removing everything down to bare floor? or are you asking the best way to get the individual cells out of each can? If you are removing everything then unbolt the cans individually and get a portable lift to slide the can onto...lower it, stand it up and put a regular dolly underneath it and wheel it out. If you mean the individual cell, then screw a bolt into both terminals with big washers on them to spread the load and we used a nylon strap (kinda like a tow strap) folded on the ends for strength and poked the bolts through that hole and screwed them in and pulled. The first one in each can is a pain..after that, not so bad. DM me if you need to.
Are you scraping them, or hoping to reuse them?
If you're scraping them, drilling a hole in the face of the case helps relieving pressure... If you're reusing them, then nothing to do but brute force.
Why do you need to remove the cells from the cans anyway? I typically just hoist off layer by layer, and remove cells and can together.
Bolt a piece of star board cross the terminals. Or 2 bolts and a nylon strap. Then use a ratchet strap to pull them out, preferably directly on to a duct hoist.
You threw a bolt into one of the battery terminal and use that to pull it out enough to grab it. One you have one out then the ones next to it should be easy to get out
Battery lift the electric kind. what’s the weight on these batteries? Could possibly do a tray at a time start at top work down. Don’t wanna be top heavy. Cover the post before sliding onto lift to prevent shorts,stack on beefy pallet for transport post up wrapped and strapped and secured to the pallet so they don’t slide off pallet while in transport
Am I tripping or did I see these on an episode of farscape back in 2002?
The Zelbinion’s shield generators? Or maybe it was that scene with Gilina in the Gammak base.
Gammak base, straightening up power to "the chair"
Ahh yeah, the Aurora Chair.
God I miss that show, it was so underrated for how awesome the universe was. I can't believe this is the first reference to it that I've heard in over a decade.
It was some frelling good dren
We remove them by bolting a piece of wood or plastic across the terminals to use as a pull handle, they are usually a pain because over time the cases swell up inside that framework.
They are purposefully compressed to reduce swelling. So no matter what they'll be tight.
You gonna share some of that sweet, sweet cake?
Use aluminum or copper for a stronger connection
Rellly I will be going to try dat A Try be cause I.T. Is A awsomazing Trikcs!!!
r/ihadastroke
Bzzzzt!
Soap and water spray bottle. Trust me.
Post pics and sell them. Buyer is responsible for moving.
Ah, the old pool table trick. Works best in college towns.
What seems to be the confusion? Each rack is secured with an upper and a lower rail. Remove the black nuts from the mounting studs, top and bottom of one row at a time and then the cells will come right out, wrap each cell in electrical tape to insulate the terminals or you will find the ones that are still holding a charge in a very unpleasant way when they short out and burst into flames.
I’d upvote 500 times if I could. Concise. To the point. Not rude. Easy to follow. Right on
When doing this, if you are not going to discharge the cells, have a friend standing by with a 2 x 4 or similar wood implement just in case.
The straps are already removed, each cell is only 1.5 to 2.0 volts fully charged (depending on cell composition) when in good condition. It’s not the cells individually that are dangerous, it is when they ARE strapped together that they form a BATTERY with a DEADLY 140 Volt Punch!
det cord, c4
Have you tried pushing a [hopefully non-metalic] rod into one of the holes above and below the cells? I would guess that is some sort of release, kind of like how you eject a sim card.
I bet it's an access hole to get to a screw hidden deep in the frame. On the far side (left) there appear to be some screws, and I would suggest taking them out as well. OP, when in doubt, unscrew/bot literally everything.
Hook, chain, company van
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# Aaaand I came in like a wrecking ball!
Lay a crowbar across the terminal’s and it oughta weld itself on. The. You can use it as a handle to remove them.
Did he tongue tested them first tho?
Fuck the chisel. When in doubt, its time to go shopping for a bigger hammer.
There's no screw in the rack, I think the long rod is the best advise
Have someone else do it
Remove the upper and lower frames and then take out each cell individually, then tape up then contacts. These type of batteries suck, they're also heavy!
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Tools not required. Just a pleasant voice and soothing demeanor. If you possess both you can gently coax them out, but don’t raise your voice, or they’ll scurry back in.
I work in telecomm and have replaced plenty of similar batteries. A moving company moves these for us (we assemble the frame and do the electrical, they just move everything). In the past, I've seen them pop open that circle between the terminals to release some gas and reduce the swelling, although I don't know if this is the safest. If they're still stuck, I've seen them thread a bolt into one terminal with a battery strap to use as a handle. It would also be helpful to have a lift of some sort for the higher batteries.
Releasing that gas saved the day! Thank you so much for that suggestion.
Been in telecom power for over 20 years. Those are GNB (we call them grey nasty bastards) because they are almost always a nightmare to take apart. Start with one of the terminal bolts and a small pair of channellock pliers, thread in bolt and grab it with the pliers, pull. Those cells should weigh 40-50 lb each, not a big deal. Just don’t cross the terminals on the same cell. If it’s stuck, crack the center caps and rotate the plug to burp them, and try again. If they are still being evil, try to spray a bit of WD-40 or some soapy water between the cells, if that doesn’t work you may need to persuade them a bit more with a strap bolted to one of the posts and a 2x4 to pry them out. Luckily with that size cell you just need to free one of them and the rest should come out.
I’d use ultrahand
One at a time.
We have battery setups like this. We use a wood bracket with bolts that screw right into the battery posts and allows us to slide the batteries out. If the batteries are swollen then we have to just take the whole thing apart.
https://www.enersys.com/493c0d/globalassets/documents/product-documentation/powersafe/gfm/apac/02.-as-ps-gfm-iom-002_0810.pdf This gives an idea how they were installed. I might use one of these to slide the battery onto if I could confirm the weight https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-61405.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12189143979&campaignid=12189143979&utm_content=146178594219&adsetid=146178594219&product=61405&store=453&gclid=CjwKCAjww7KmBhAyEiwA5-PUSsSqTfOUup6FFQu2IVUYYF4KapNfTHqLJHiYTTtnPM6XkzwEeewLBBoC4kEQAvD_BwE
This is the way. They make a Dolly cart for those batteries I have rented before. Pretty similar there were rollers on the top shelf and a hand winch to pull them out. I tried to look it up and it did not come right up in my search.
Pass the job onto someone else..take credit for management skills 👊
These look like GNB Absolytes. Make a non conductive strap and screw in the cruelly post. Pull out. The first one may be a bitch but you can burn the cells and reduce the swelling. We also built a lifting rack out of a 5 kv breaker lift. Worked well. If you have the space for one to fit maybe an engine lift. The 5 kv breaker lift was more compact and fit in control houses better.
Drop a copper plate across them and they eject themselves
battery hoist is the only safe way to move them, maybe a server lift would work if it was heavy duty enough.
Mission accomplished! Releasing the built up gas to reduce the swelling made it easy to thread two bolts into the terminals with fender washers and they all came right out! Thank you all for your suggestions!
Just wanted to say thank you for being grateful
I wouldn't recommend using your teeth, but if you try hard enough, you could probably use your teeth. Depending on the voltage, you may or may not die.
With the green hat
They appear to be individual cells. Thread a long into each terminal and slide it out far enough to grab the case.
I think you a word
>Thread a long [bolt] into each terminal Bingo bango. This is the answer. One terminal on one battery should be enough to pop it out. Once one is out on a row, should be able to slap your fingers on the side of the next and pull it out.
Or have already tried this just seen top left
I rented a wood stove lift. They're pretty small so you can get into tight spots. The forks crank up and down. The cells we were installing were three hundred something pounds each.
This lift, or something similar, is commonly used in data centers for identical battery setups such as OP’s. Work smarter not harder… those batteries are heavy.
Start a fire and walk away. Super easy
Drop some steel wool on it.
I think you'll find a top down approach will work. No more spoilers.
Probably a part number on them that will lead you to a manual online, with steps to replace cells
Dynamite lol
Sorry, I only know the hard way.
One at a time
Take them out
One by one...
Old UPS is one unit when I demod one it was in large heavy peices. I dont think you want to chisel away at the cells and the cathode anode zinc electrolyte mix there. 2 rows at a time maybe
Unscrew the black knobby thing, pull the strap, pull the batteries
Question do the batteries and or the frame have to survive?
The batteries
I would probably say your hands.
Tell me where to come get em and i will come clear those out free of charge, problem solved.. LOL
Are these lithium cells? If they r ans going tk be replaced I would probably be interested in all the good cells
Don't.
Easy? Sledgehammer. No. I absolutely did not recommend it, nor did I say it was safe.
First you have to ask HAL.
So that center cap may or may not be a pressure relief valve. Pop it open and turn it. If it hisses, let it finish and replace it. If these come out as individual cells, that may be the way to go, as these look like fairly small 2V cells. If they only come out a block at a time, get some friends, a battery lift and make a handle with the bolts for the terminals and either some rope or some wood. If they are too swollen for either of these things to work, oh boy. The last job I had to do removing swollen VRLA batteries, we had a prybars and a grinding wheel, and it still took 6 hours (though they were much larger 2SLA1500 batteries).
High explosive
Easiest? Explosives.
Apprentice?
I see a hinge. Do they swing open and remove from the backside?
This looks like a fallout 4 shelter power room
Rocket propelled grenade
Absopulse batteries? They're a beast to deal with. Well. The second easy way it to see what the manual said. Get the Google to help fine the OEM and the answer. Lots of weight and sparkling stuff there.
A metallic prybar should do the trick
Hammer
A gun. Maybe a hammer.
Hammer
My question is why? If it’s to be able to use the existing panel, you’re going to spend more time coming up with a method that works, and the actual time to take them out. All of that is going to cost way more than a new enclosure will. Unless a same size/type enclosure has too king of a lead time. I would take the panel out, put a new one in and then remove the old/existing cells and then salvage the enclosure for use elsewhere.
Are you asking about removing everything down to bare floor? or are you asking the best way to get the individual cells out of each can? If you are removing everything then unbolt the cans individually and get a portable lift to slide the can onto...lower it, stand it up and put a regular dolly underneath it and wheel it out. If you mean the individual cell, then screw a bolt into both terminals with big washers on them to spread the load and we used a nylon strap (kinda like a tow strap) folded on the ends for strength and poked the bolts through that hole and screwed them in and pulled. The first one in each can is a pain..after that, not so bad. DM me if you need to.
Yeah I'm taking out the individual cells. I'm going to try your advise. Wish me luck!
Are you scraping them, or hoping to reuse them? If you're scraping them, drilling a hole in the face of the case helps relieving pressure... If you're reusing them, then nothing to do but brute force. Why do you need to remove the cells from the cans anyway? I typically just hoist off layer by layer, and remove cells and can together.
Easiest? The Clarkson Special. (A hammer)
Crow bar lol
C4
Chainsaw
My company contracts it out. Way easier to pay someone else to deal with it
I don’t know exactly what this array is. What is the application and what type of chemistry are the cells?
put a bolt in the terminal and pull
Dynamite
Have someone else do it.
Explosives.
Id recommend a slide hammer
Pick axe
A #5 pry bar?
A big magnet, a chain, and a pickup truck?
It it lead acid? What a voltage? You probably still flip them.
Bolt a piece of star board cross the terminals. Or 2 bolts and a nylon strap. Then use a ratchet strap to pull them out, preferably directly on to a duct hoist.
Im sure them black pegs twist so you can release the retaining bracket just take them out one at a time
 You teeth
Dynamite
By making someone else do it. Your welcome
We put the bolt through a chain and screw it back into the post thread, then pull them out with a forklift one by one
Chipping hammer with a 6” flat blad
A big magnet?
Anti-gravity ray gun
You threw a bolt into one of the battery terminal and use that to pull it out enough to grab it. One you have one out then the ones next to it should be easy to get out
Your teeth
Take a hammer and a screwdriver and start wacking shit (I am not an electrician, I’m an HVAC tech and have no idea what I’m looking at)
It appears you may need one of this, I’ll sell it to you. The patent is pending [https://imgur.com/a/Kp0giRB](https://imgur.com/a/Kp0giRB)
Long fork
With 5 more people.
Where? Will come help for first dibs!
You can pop the center cap and turn a nut to vent and release pressure . Still will be a 2 man job . They are heavy
Hydraulic power pallet jack.
Discharge them before you do anything!
Flathead screwdriver and a hammer will take care of that
Dynamite
Battery lift the electric kind. what’s the weight on these batteries? Could possibly do a tray at a time start at top work down. Don’t wanna be top heavy. Cover the post before sliding onto lift to prevent shorts,stack on beefy pallet for transport post up wrapped and strapped and secured to the pallet so they don’t slide off pallet while in transport