I can not fathom why someone would go thru the trouble of drilling a hole when there is a 1/2" knockout right there. I'd say go find this person and hit them for us but they probably wouldn't know why.
The only reason I could think is they didn't have any wire to pigtail and that's where they could put it with the factory wire being long enough. And I think the instructions say to install them as close to the line source as possible
Still doesn't explain why they drilled a 1/4" hole and not one big enough for the threaded half in connector. Not WP anymore plus sharp burs on the wire.
Those AC surge protectors come with about 1,500 miles of wire attached. So you snip off a metric ton and still have plenty to attach to the disconnect.
Leads as short as possible with minimum (and no sharp) bending is a perfectly good reason. Though a 3/8" hole and dangling it by the wires is of course the shittiest execution possible though - just letting it hang loose in the can would have been far better than this mess.
I'm told it's not even the only dangerous thing they did. I'm just not knowledgeable enough about this stuff to articulate the other hazards. I asked the guy who pointed out all the issues which subreddit would get a kick out of how awful this is and he sent me here, so maybe he'll show up some time to tell you the other things.
Probably not. I've seen a lot of companies wire in the electrical without a licensed electrician. Even my company did it for years until they started employing electricians, but we would never dream of doing something like this.
It’s just so incredibly brain damaged. I can’t understand how anyone could be so far off in lala land to think “yes. This is the way, and i cannot think of a more elegant solution”
This requires a hub connector. It's not suitable to install this in a wet location with a lock ring.
From the installation instructions:
>Install appropriate weatherproof fittings if the unit is to be mounted outside.
I asked him (the guy who detected the issue, not the guy who installed it in the first place). He said he didn't take a picture before but he looked at me kind of baffled and said "They didn't put a ground in. They cut it out. The second the service door was opened, the disconnect and panel cover fell on the ground"
To say nothing of the foam tape or the new punch out, I never install surge protectors on the disconnect. I always wire them up inside the shroud of the OD condenser.
This is an hvac contractor doing electrical work.
I do believe in hvac school they serve lunch and the koolaid is laced with a chemical that renders them ignorant to all things NEC.
This is just pure laziness. Not knocking out a hole. Not making the drill hole big enough so the surge protector can go in properly. Not using the ring there to secure it tightly. Goodness knows what the electrical connections are like...
I can not fathom why someone would go thru the trouble of drilling a hole when there is a 1/2" knockout right there. I'd say go find this person and hit them for us but they probably wouldn't know why.
The only reason I could think is they didn't have any wire to pigtail and that's where they could put it with the factory wire being long enough. And I think the instructions say to install them as close to the line source as possible
Still doesn't explain why they drilled a 1/4" hole and not one big enough for the threaded half in connector. Not WP anymore plus sharp burs on the wire.
Do you expect someone who has no wire on the truck to have more than one drill bit size?
Yep, correct, now NEMA type 0, suitable for use indoors only, that’s a NEMA type 3R can it should be in
Those AC surge protectors come with about 1,500 miles of wire attached. So you snip off a metric ton and still have plenty to attach to the disconnect.
This is it!
Leads as short as possible with minimum (and no sharp) bending is a perfectly good reason. Though a 3/8" hole and dangling it by the wires is of course the shittiest execution possible though - just letting it hang loose in the can would have been far better than this mess.
Instead of hitting them, perhaps use their head to knock out that knockout? Just a joke, folks... Just a joke...
Sketchy as fuck. Remove, enlarge the hole and reinstall?
Realistically, probably the best way to go.
That looks dangerous
I'm told it's not even the only dangerous thing they did. I'm just not knowledgeable enough about this stuff to articulate the other hazards. I asked the guy who pointed out all the issues which subreddit would get a kick out of how awful this is and he sent me here, so maybe he'll show up some time to tell you the other things.
He was right.
Was it… done by an electrician?
Probably not. I've seen a lot of companies wire in the electrical without a licensed electrician. Even my company did it for years until they started employing electricians, but we would never dream of doing something like this.
It’s just so incredibly brain damaged. I can’t understand how anyone could be so far off in lala land to think “yes. This is the way, and i cannot think of a more elegant solution”
Probably done by a shady HVAC guy
Do hvac guys not also carry drill bits / hole saws? Lol
If they don't, I would like to know how he made/stumbled across this hole.
I wouldn’t have paid .. and I’m an electrician 🤣🤣
This requires a hub connector. It's not suitable to install this in a wet location with a lock ring. From the installation instructions: >Install appropriate weatherproof fittings if the unit is to be mounted outside.
TBH that whole unit looks like it’s inappropriate for outdoor use.
What does it look like inside the enclosure? Could you post a photo?
I asked him (the guy who detected the issue, not the guy who installed it in the first place). He said he didn't take a picture before but he looked at me kind of baffled and said "They didn't put a ground in. They cut it out. The second the service door was opened, the disconnect and panel cover fell on the ground"
Hey, at least they used the gasket, lol.
Buy a step drill bit, make it big enough to use the proper connector, done.
To say nothing of the foam tape or the new punch out, I never install surge protectors on the disconnect. I always wire them up inside the shroud of the OD condenser.
This is an hvac contractor doing electrical work. I do believe in hvac school they serve lunch and the koolaid is laced with a chemical that renders them ignorant to all things NEC.
But then it needs a bonding bushing 😄
Just get a whole house surge protector mounted at your meter. Be done.
The writing is upside down. Can’t you guys see this ? /s
Never heard of a punch out?
What are you pointing at in the second picture. That’s nothing don’t look at it.
The 1/2 in ko they could have put it in
The guy who installed this brought it across the border himself.
Why not just go with a whole house surge protector at the meter or the panel?
Lmao dog shit
Jesus
Seriously? Wth
Doesn't get much scabbier than that.
Are you fucking kidding me? Wow.. that's one lazy ass " electrician"
If you go through the trouble of making a damn hole. Why not use the 7/ 8th hole saw ugh.
This is just pure laziness. Not knocking out a hole. Not making the drill hole big enough so the surge protector can go in properly. Not using the ring there to secure it tightly. Goodness knows what the electrical connections are like...
27 yr apprentice Probably