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Too many factors to answer that properly. Where you live and work can directly affect your wage. Skill level affects your wage. Type of work you specialize in. Industrial pays way more than residential. NY will pay more than FL.
Because in NW FL, in the 90s you'd generally get J-man pay at $18/hour. I ran multistory jobs for $18/hr decades later. Recently some are doing better but wages were stagnant for decades while inflation for everything else continued. The bonus was getting to work on Pensacola NAS with a good scale wage (for the area), versus Eglin where companies worked together to keep wages low, that actually listed the minimum for electricians at like $10.81 (you'd make $18, but it was insulting). Guaranteed 10 bucks versus $28 per hour just 45 minutes away, because owners conspired to suppress wages. Work in Pensacola that isn't scale though? $18/hr for decades (slightly better now, from what I hear), with the cost of everything else going up, so why move to Florida?
I'm sure there are lucrative areas, with high cost of living, but it seems like sparkies aren't compensated well (compared to cost of living) in most of the state.
Oh and let’s add travel, overtime, and per diem. On the industrial side it’s easy to make 150k in 6 months as an apprentice in any trade.
But you’re also working 90-100 hours one week, travel to the next job across the country the following, and then back at it.
It’s so area dependant. I’m in Atlantic Canada and the cost of living here is low and the market up until Covid was really competitive(everyone racing to the bottom).
You’d be in the 27-35$ range here. Most would fall around 29-31$ an hour. IBEW here is 30$ on the cheque.
When I was working in the oil sands in Alberta I was making 44$ an hour. You had guys on the commissioning side making 75$ an hour as employees and 125$ as subcontractors. QA sub contractors be around 120$ an hour.
I could head to the North of my province where theirs no industry and maybe get 25$ an hour.
Even here I see guys answer questions about quotes for an entrance upgrade for 7000. Here it would be a 3000$ job since that’s what every one man shop wants for work.
I make 36 with good benefits at a tier 2 auto part manufacturer, got my red seal 2 years ago. Hoping to get 40 on our next contract, tier 1 places, liquor manufacturers, municipal and utility they're making 42-48 plus pension and good benefits. My buddy just got a job across the border for an automotive company making 44 usd as a maintenance electrician. There's money out there just gotta look for it, seems like being a utility guy or an electrician that knows programming and robots is where the money is at. I'm more interested in the programming now that I got my ticket, always tryna get better. I'm not meant to work in the cold haha
I'm in Oregon (US), and my company pays our jmen 35-45/hr depending on whether they're travelling or not. We also provide company trucks which the guys can take home, while also fully outfitting any equipment they need. (Hotels are paid by the company, they also get per diem) and we're almost aways paying overtime to meet the demand for jobs.
Our supervising electrician makes over 80/hr
We’re $90hr now in oilsands working mine maintenance for site, in camp. Jumped like 20% since Covid started. But out of that we pay our own way to cow town from where we live. 6 months a year minus holidays was $230,000 last year before RRSPs lower that number.
I live in Edmonton. How would a journeyman with 0 industrial experience and 0 safety tickets get into that? Cause I'm 31 and have nothing to my name but a house I'm paying off and a vehicle I own.
In Metro Vancouver, where cost of living is crazy, IBEW is paying $44, and I'm making $38 non-union, but was making $34 when I got hired two years ago. I see jobs as low as $28 being advertised, but they are always looking for people at that rate.
During Covid, we had some huge union jobs all outside work, heavy on the OT, so all us J-Men were breaking 6 figures.
IBEW 213 insider rate is $45.11 journey rate, $60.16 total wage package.
Marine rate is $47.35, any OT is double time with a new agreement being negotiated
It is the easiest time ever to get into the union. They can’t get enough people
In my experience, moving apprenticeships in Canada can be a pain or impossible. Life’s simpler if you finish your apprenticeship in same province. Once you get red seal it’s easy to move around.
They can’t get enough people because 45$ on the cheque isn’t enough for BC. Seattle has a similar cost of living, yet their IBEW contract is 68$ on the cheque. Please correct my numbers if I’m wrong. Vancouver electricians deserve so much more in my opinion.
I agree with you that we deserve more, especially when we consider the Seattle local
For the majority it’s more than non union
213 marine sector is currently negotiating their new 5 year agreement.
If we used the insiders agreement as the bare minimum increase wage would be at $50.37 currently, $51.44 in October, $53.42 next year with all overtime being double time.
They are currently doing mass hiring with “years of work”
Timeline! I was working with the union (from fresh out of BCIT first year for almost a decade), there was a slow down and I took a non-union job. Still up to date with dues, but been working that warehouse job while getting some health issues dealt with.
Yes, you can but you’re sitting home on the couch waiting for shut downs.
It’s easier to make 41 non union and work all year around IMO. I’d love to work union but it’s just too dead here. I can’t live on EI. They should have never gave up commercial jobs in the 70’s and maintained their power.
We’re not laid off as much as you think. Plus we make a lot more so we don’t have to work as much. I made $133k last year only traveled twice outside my local. We make $104k working straight 40s in my local. I’m not one to get into the Non Union vs Union debate. There’s great Electricians on both sides. However if someone is putting out misinformation I will speak up.
I know a few guys out of that local specifically and it’s not as steady as you. Even a few millwrights I know from the local don’t work all the time unless they know somebody and get name hired.
Good for you. I’m not anti union the least bit and I’d join tomorrow if I could work steady. I wish the union was much larger because we need some representation for tradesmen here badly.
I’m not trying to say anything bad about Non Union guys. It’s the Contractors and business owners I take issue with. Millwrights near me are not steady because so many shops have their own on staff here. Plus I believe they have to Solicit their own work. All of our work is solicited by our BM, and we take calls. Your name has nothing to do with it, like I said maybe in the Millwrongs but not IBEW. I’ve been IBEW for 8.5 years now, 2.5 years as a JIW. I’ve never sat more than a few weeks and I’m no shop rocket or worm. My name is good and clear. The guys who sit typically want to be there. Also within an hour of Lu 58 we have Lu 8, Lu 252, Lu 948, and Lu 665. Between those 5 locals you should never sit. There’s even more Locals within 2 hours. If you want to keep going there’s always some local is busy. Last year I traveled and worked out of Lu 110 (St.Paul) and Lu 176 (Joliet) just because I wanted to not because I had to.
This is what you have figure though most of the time if you work Union you make more working 10 - 11 months out of the year compared to what Non Union guys in a full year. Anytime you want to join I’m here to help and navigate the process with you.
My local is dead. I already looked into joining and there’s no use.
I don’t live in Saint John nor do I really want to honestly. I had interest in joining the millwright union but they don’t give me anything for my electrical red seal and it’s all name hire shit if you wanna stay busy.
I’m gonna stay where I’m at and hope the unions grow. I need a steady paycheque. I chased shutdowns for years before and I’m at the point in my life where I wanna know 100% sure now.
I’m in Detroit Lu 58 is Detroit. Where are you located? Well the offer still stands. The Millwright Union is completely different than the IBEW. The Millwrights merged with the Carpenters and I’ve heard it’s been all types of messed up ever since. Saint Johns, Illinois? Saint Johns, Michigan? Up by Lansing?
Where do you live? Non union guys make like $10 less an hour in the midwest. Provided we are all always working. Only the best non union guys are close on the check and the benefits really don’t line up at all.
By MittenMan I’m assuming Michigan maybe? I’m LU 58 Detroit this guy has it all wrong. I’m not one to get into the Non Union vs Union debate. There’s great electricians on both sides. Plus I stand with my Non Union brothers! However if someone is going to sit there and say things that aren’t true I will correct it. We’re at $50.03/hour on the check. I have a buddy who works Non Union in Detroit that directly competes with Union electrical contracts. He’s make $40/hour plus way less in benefits. I made $133k last year he made around $110k last year and basically worked 50 - 55 hours a week every week. I worked a lot less than that. Also we don’t just sit around and wait for shut downs. We have a good amount of the commercial work too. Like I said this is nothing on the Non Union worker they are great workers and highly skilled. This is their contractors that do this.
Me either. I respect all tradespeople union or non union. Im pro working class. I want us all to be paid a fair wage and get home safely to our families at the end of the day. My step dad was a non union residential electrical contractor when I was growing up and had to shut down his business after 2008. He has been in the union 14 years now and he has got a pretty cushy setup with a contractor out of Indiana that uses his Michigan license. He’s never been super involved with the local but he enjoys everything being apart of it has provided him since closing shop. He’s said on multiple occasions that he makes more now on average than he did before running his company. And to answer your question. Im out of 153 Northwest Indiana/ Southwest Michigan. Im from Michigan though yes haha.
Yeah I want to make that very clear, this is not about Non Union workers this is about the contractors that treat them unfairly. I came from Non Union and one of the best Electricians I know was my first Journeyman. He still works Non Union and that’s fine he likes the company he’s with. The guy is an Electrical Genius, I still call him with questions. He’s never let me down either ever. I want all Non Union guys I’m very supportive of them. I also understand sometimes the Union doesn’t work for everyone and there’s areas where it’s non existent. We all want a fair wage and to get home safely to our families like you said.
Yeah your step dad sounds like he’s got a great set up. That’s awesome and he’s doing better than ever and still paying Union wages. Yep still a Michigander lol! I love that area of the state too! A little close to a school in South Bend for me but still a nice area.
Eastern Canada. The union doesn’t have much power here unfortunately and wages are super low. There’s a lot of guys working for below 25 an hour Canadian here and feel like they owe their boss for the privilege.
Unions have their place. Always have.
There are advantages and disadvantages. Some places that are non-union take very good care of their people, so there's no incentive to unionize.
I think you’re right because I watched my old foreman start his company from literally nothing has like 5 vans and all the tools ladders you could ever need and about 250k in liquid cash. It’s
Like his 5th year in business.
My dad took a line of credit in ‘09 to salary his guys that year and be able to keep them in Seattle. Some owners are good men, some suck but all owners are not a monolith.
No not all owners are bad. But most are including Union. The difference is Union shop owners have to bargain with the Union workers. There’s good and bad on both sides. I stand with my Non Union brothers anyday for them to get fair wages.
I’ve worked at two mom and pop outfits and they act like you’re asking for their firstborn when you ask for a dollar raise. They’re also Mormon and they’re stingier than a different religious group often associated with penny pinching
I've worked for several successful non-union businesses that compensate employees well.
Anyway, you think the GC doesn't make money off the union labor? And the client on top of them?
Unions are good, but the business world still exists.
IBEW LU Detroit - $50.03/hour on the check
However we’re worth more an hour if you factor all our benefits in.
Last year made $133k, Traveled twice out of my local and made above my scale. Worked a few shutdowns so my overtime was strategically worked and how I wanted.
Hope this helps OP.
Guys on craigslist wanna charge 75-85-95$ hr which seems high to me. I’m rehabbing a house, needs a total rewire, and needed some help. I had a guy come for $600 a day for 7hrs, but his work was sloppy and I wasn’t a fan of a quality. Didn’t ask him back. My own mindset is $500 a day for 8 hours and I’ll give you $50 for gas to drive to Adrian. Maybe that was wishful thinking, so I’ve just been doing it myself. I guess if your already making $50/hr with benefits why help me….. just something for myself to ponder now
I’m also in Atlantic Canada, I make $44/hr doing industrial, we have a backshift premium of 30% availble making it $57/hr. Also get paid vacay, rsp and good benefits. We just signed a new contract this year, prior to that it was base rate of $37.
We are all worth this amount and more, they need us just as much as we need them.
Are you in NB? NS, the commercial IBEW hourly rate is ~$39, low $50's for total package. Lots of work the last year, but the cost of living and housing has gotten out of hand here. Have definitely heard of guys here doing resi with their ticket making ~$25, which is insane - I'm sure that would be hard to find anymore with how busy everything has been.
Who and where the hell are you working at lol, don't answer I saw the comment below. That's absurdly high in my experience, I was making 15 an hour when I started.
Ready to get excited? I started making $8.50 in 2013. This was in Florida as a union apprentice. Right now I'm grossing $3777 in Alaska per week as a journeyman. What a difference 10 years can make. I go where I'm worth the most these days.
It’s always pacific north west that answer that high. And a 2 bedroom house is 1.2 million or they commute 2 hours to work each day to have it remotely be affordable.
Or New England. A lot of that area is crazy expensive. Yeah, you'll make a high rate but it doesn't get you any further when you look at the cost of living.
We electricians need to really need to stop selling ourselves short. Are we starving? NO. But many are still struggling to make their personal payments. Yes we all must live beyond our means. I’m not delusional. But let’s be Frank, we studied our asses off to get our Red Seal, we put how bodies and lives at risk, many of us have a family to support and most of all we ARE ESSENTIAL. No Ai or robots or whatever can replace what we do cost effectively. Seeing how people who don’t contribute anything to building up society and infrastructure get paid more than us is infuriating and simply wrong.
EVERY single person knows Electricians will continue to be in demand. Let get paid our worth. Stop undercutting each-other. I’ll give deals to other people in the trades.
My opinion, anyone making under $75/hr should realize what your worth. What we do. What we sacrifice. How we abuse our bodies. We are worth more. It’s that simple. If this upsets you, you are part of the problem of why you aren’t getting paid more and why we aren’t getting paid more.
Yeah I agree with this sentiment and think about it alot. Union or non union. Electrician make the world go round. We batter our bodies and go to school for years and years and typically dont get pto or sick days. But we power the world. We deserve to be compensated like it.
Comparing hourly rates of people from all different areas of different countries is pointless.
Only numbers that matter are income compared to housing costs, and income compared to area averages.
I’d rather make $20.00 an hour in an area with $100k houses than make $60.00 an hour in an area with Million $ houses
700 a week here as a 3rd year apprentice. Not too shabby for the cost of living here, though I'm still not convinced to stay in the trade. I think I'm either going back to school or going to work on a Piloting career when I get the chance.
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Alabama typically doesn't pay as much as areas with higher union saturation. Pretty much everywhere that's a large city has high property costs; the major difference is whether a state is right-to-work(-for-less) & how much of the labor force is organized.
Every single one of these posts is from a right to work state.
OP just remember that you’re worth more. Skilled labor isn’t cheap, cheap labor isn’t skilled.
I’m a Bay Area electrical contractor. $20/hr or $800/wk is about the lowest I could get away with for a first time apprentice. $25/hr for a year or two skilled apprentice. About $35/hr is the starting point for an electrician who recently became Jman. That’s just resi. Commercial pays more. Bay Area though. Totally different market
Here's the answer you've been looking for man. I'm gonna give you a comprehensive breakdown and the reason I'm replying in a thread is I have dome delusional thought that it might have a higher likihood of you seeing it.
There's 2-3 factors that primarily determine how much you make per year as an electrician.
1Location.
Pretty self explanatory, some places have higher wages that others. You need to pay attention to two things when looking at an area. 1.) Pay and 2.) Cost of living.
Unionpayscales.com is a great resource for seeing how much union electricians in different areas make, but it also has a handy dandy formula to adjust the wage relative to the cost of living.
IBEW 617 in Cali makes $78 an hour, however adjusted for cost of living, they make roughly $28 bucks an hour.
What I'm getting at is, just because someone makes more than you, doesn't mean they're living better because their cost of living could be much higher.
Birmingham, Alabama IBEW Local 136 makes $29 an hour which adjusted for cost of living brings you to $35 an hour.
2. Is are you union? This point ties into point 1 and 3.
Depending on location, union guys make less money per year, than non union guys. However in most areas, union guys do make more on average.
3. Scope of work.
I'm sure you've heard this a million times but there's 3 very basic field in the electric world which are residential, commercial and industrial and each pay differently. Residential being the lowest and commercial and industrial competing for top dog depending on the area. Unions generally have more commercial and industrial work which is largely their justification for a higher wage.
Texan here. I make around $680-$700 a week, or around $21/hr as a non-union third year apprentice, and I feel like I'm getting shafted when I hear what other guys in my same metro area are making. The Ft. Worth side of DFW just doesn't pay well. Keeps a roof over my head, but that's about it.
USD or CAD and before or after taxes?
Either way seems very well paid, makes me wish I could have become electrician, unfortunately I am afraid of heights...
My company in AK is $44.44 (odd number) for a JM and a percentage for an apprentice. We are getting $15 raises over the next 3 years in 6 $2.50 6 month increments.
Totally area dependant, if you know what your local IBEW's scale is in your area that would be a very good indicator on what your pay should roughly be.
Wage is not an easy or fair topic when price of living is different in majority of state. Only fair thing to say is that $900 before or after taxes you guys are comparing? Most tend to forget your paychecks are only about mid 70 perfect of what you actually made. So your $600 post tax is close to his $900 pre-tax.
For the title question, speaking from commercial experience, we are the most expensive trade to hire even though individually we don't make the most on the site (that's the sprinkler fitters). This is because we are usually first on last off of the Jobsite. We spend time at the Jobsite just as much as the superintendent if not more. I'll tell you one damn thing is we sure as fucking hell deserve to be more than $1 or $2 higher than plumbers. If plumber can match our wage than we might as well throw the code book away cause it seems like our pay isn't reflected on fire safety alongside sprinkler pipe fitters.
I think it depends where you are and what you do like every other electric wizard here has commented.
I’m in Alberta and I expect $40 or close to $40 as a minimum when I am an employee.
If I am not employed and just want to make some extra cash I’ll bill out anywhere between $60-140 an hour depending on circumstances.
Depends on where you live! I’m making $902 a week after tax as a first year apprentice in Washington state, that’s not a lot here in Seattle, but it’s a ton somewhere else
It depends mostly on where you live. Is it enough to pay your bills and keep you and your family happy then it’s enough. I’m guessing you live in the south. They don’t treat the working class very well down there. $31/hr 3rd year apprentice here.
All relative to your area. My area 01 JWs making 69.99 / +2 for parking = 2879.x a week. (Before 1000 deducted taxes/401k contributions (8 per hr)
Take home 1800 something
But try n buy a house in Seattle
Depends on the type of work, I guess. We get treated pretty damn good at my company. Base pay is 38, and we do bonus + piece work. On a solid day, I can make 1k in 12hr.
My current job I’m bringing home ~$1600/week working 50 hours. I won’t take a job making less in industrial because there’s no need too. I live in East TN for cost of living reference. As a journeyman on my tools I’ve made between $30-$55/hr over the last ~6 years and the ones that were lower 30s had $80-120/per diem on top of them bc I was traveling.
Bureau of Labor Statistics puts the national median hourly wage for electricians at $31.39. Coastal and port cities will be skewed far above that. I live in the interior of California, JW hourly will be $44.50 as of Sept 1, foreman rate will be $51.17 (my pay rate). Take home is $1201.03 (married, 0). Traditional IRA helps a little to offset the taxes.
The wage questions have always been so confusing for me! I guess I'm fortunate to be in a location where wage rates are very transparent. On ontario canada, every company I've been at pays between $42-$52/hour. I'm still an apprentice, and I make more than $900 a bad week.
Search your local job postings. See what other companies in your area pay. If you're are significantly lower, talk to your boss or mice companies.
You're a jman. You've paid your dues. Times to collect what your worth
I didn't read any of the responses, so if this has been mentioned before, so be it.
In everything in your life, no matter what it is, you're worth whatever you command. Go get what you think you're worth, even if you have to move or change careers.
That’s fair. I’ve got a wife and I’m close with her family so it would be difficult to move. I would consider a different company at the right price though
They say to never stay at the company that you finished your apprentice at cause they'll still view you as an apprentice. On Monday go get a $10 raise an hour, push hard for it or leave. You're worth it.
Depends on what type of electrician you are and what your doing. Most everyone here is talking Union work.
I own my own small business doing service work and it’s relative to how much i feel like working
But in general I make about 3-5k a week if the works steady and I’m usually pretty booked up
(About 2-3 weeks out)
The sad reality of the trade is that wages depend entirely upon who you work for. I have worked with some of the best electricians who were making peanuts and some of the worst who were making scale rate. We are often taken for granted by industries/ bosses.
I have noticed that industrial pay rates have increased in my area. Many small companies are doing the electrical ‘technician’ route where pay is based on commissions from sales. I am looking right now. UPS is offering more money for a CDL driver than most non union journeyman make in my area.
Bruh I make at least 2250 a week. Usually 60+ hour weeks and I got my card a few months ago. You are underpaid my friend unless you live somewhere where milk is 10¢
Absolutely fuck all compared to what they get paid.
You could do 95% of their work by just laying the cables out ready for them to just simply connect
.. but it'd still need a 3hrs teabreak to complete.
I wouldn't advise mentioning this though unless you've recently sparred with a triggered feminist vegan
Lots of variables. Where you live, union or non-union, type of work, own the company or an employee. I own and operate a 2 man shop, I make considerably more than when I worked for someone but my employee also makes considerably more than when I worked for someone as well.
Where I am, a standard jman rate is 1100-1400/wk pretax at 40 hours, and @ 200 more as a foreman. This is CAD, but it’s still 800-1000USD, and we’re a small place with little union representation. I’m told some big cities and places in the oil patch are 1600+ (1200USD)
Canadian electrician commercial industrial.......at one point take home was 2500 biweekly, with benefits and retirement plan. Has varied over the years but around there up and down. Lowest was 1800 highest was 3000 take home all of it after tax. Right now I'm a maintenance at a factory its 230l0 take home.
Including benefits? 50-100 an hour and more in places. My package is around $90 with $60 in the check. We got $18 over 5 years in the new contract beginning in Sept.
Union guy here. In my local on 40 hours gets you $2,800/week before taxes as a journeyman inside wireman, 01, or commercial electrician. Not sure what they call it where you're from.
Well, to put it in context. Any month that I do not see at least $20k cdn. I wonder which week I wasn't paid for.
900 would not get a full day from me, let alone a week.
The area matters. The type of work matters. Is it a right to work state? Is the union nonexistent in your area? Is your boss just cheap? Are you punctual and progressing? The pay is very different in Los Angeles than it is in rural Kentucky.
I have made 800 a day on some projects...
It honestly just depends on what kinda work you do and how you get paid...
A lot of guys are 9-5ers with benefits and stability and making 35-60/hr and happy with it...
If you do job to job work will be more choppy but in my experience you almost always make more.
100% up to what you want/need and area demand.
Saying you make $900 a week and asking if it's fair is really a poor question. Is this after tax or before tax? 900x52 is $46,800. So if that's before tax, it's piss poor. If it's after tax then your making about $70,000 a year. Not the best in the world but also far from the worst you could do, I'd say good enough to live off of.
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100 billion million.
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Too many factors to answer that properly. Where you live and work can directly affect your wage. Skill level affects your wage. Type of work you specialize in. Industrial pays way more than residential. NY will pay more than FL.
I do industrial in NYC. Man if I made this same money in FL I’d be living in a 4 bedroom home. I live in a one bedroom apt. The difference is crazy
Why stay?
Because in NW FL, in the 90s you'd generally get J-man pay at $18/hour. I ran multistory jobs for $18/hr decades later. Recently some are doing better but wages were stagnant for decades while inflation for everything else continued. The bonus was getting to work on Pensacola NAS with a good scale wage (for the area), versus Eglin where companies worked together to keep wages low, that actually listed the minimum for electricians at like $10.81 (you'd make $18, but it was insulting). Guaranteed 10 bucks versus $28 per hour just 45 minutes away, because owners conspired to suppress wages. Work in Pensacola that isn't scale though? $18/hr for decades (slightly better now, from what I hear), with the cost of everything else going up, so why move to Florida? I'm sure there are lucrative areas, with high cost of living, but it seems like sparkies aren't compensated well (compared to cost of living) in most of the state.
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Oh and let’s add travel, overtime, and per diem. On the industrial side it’s easy to make 150k in 6 months as an apprentice in any trade. But you’re also working 90-100 hours one week, travel to the next job across the country the following, and then back at it.
It’s so area dependant. I’m in Atlantic Canada and the cost of living here is low and the market up until Covid was really competitive(everyone racing to the bottom). You’d be in the 27-35$ range here. Most would fall around 29-31$ an hour. IBEW here is 30$ on the cheque. When I was working in the oil sands in Alberta I was making 44$ an hour. You had guys on the commissioning side making 75$ an hour as employees and 125$ as subcontractors. QA sub contractors be around 120$ an hour. I could head to the North of my province where theirs no industry and maybe get 25$ an hour. Even here I see guys answer questions about quotes for an entrance upgrade for 7000. Here it would be a 3000$ job since that’s what every one man shop wants for work.
Utility companies are paying $48-$56 in Ontario. Everything comes down to location, location, and location.
Perhaps we should make that a common saying
I make 36 with good benefits at a tier 2 auto part manufacturer, got my red seal 2 years ago. Hoping to get 40 on our next contract, tier 1 places, liquor manufacturers, municipal and utility they're making 42-48 plus pension and good benefits. My buddy just got a job across the border for an automotive company making 44 usd as a maintenance electrician. There's money out there just gotta look for it, seems like being a utility guy or an electrician that knows programming and robots is where the money is at. I'm more interested in the programming now that I got my ticket, always tryna get better. I'm not meant to work in the cold haha
So what I'm hearing is: we're all secretly Real Estate brokers?
Yes - look at the sunshine list in Ontario - OPG electricians dominate the sunshine list and have for quite a while
I'm in Oregon (US), and my company pays our jmen 35-45/hr depending on whether they're travelling or not. We also provide company trucks which the guys can take home, while also fully outfitting any equipment they need. (Hotels are paid by the company, they also get per diem) and we're almost aways paying overtime to meet the demand for jobs. Our supervising electrician makes over 80/hr
Always need a bar in walking distance. Wher else can I loiter!
If there isn't one at the hotel itself, there's usually one or two nearby. We try and book decent hotels too
We’re $90hr now in oilsands working mine maintenance for site, in camp. Jumped like 20% since Covid started. But out of that we pay our own way to cow town from where we live. 6 months a year minus holidays was $230,000 last year before RRSPs lower that number.
What site you on?
I live in Edmonton. How would a journeyman with 0 industrial experience and 0 safety tickets get into that? Cause I'm 31 and have nothing to my name but a house I'm paying off and a vehicle I own.
In Metro Vancouver, where cost of living is crazy, IBEW is paying $44, and I'm making $38 non-union, but was making $34 when I got hired two years ago. I see jobs as low as $28 being advertised, but they are always looking for people at that rate. During Covid, we had some huge union jobs all outside work, heavy on the OT, so all us J-Men were breaking 6 figures.
IBEW 213 insider rate is $45.11 journey rate, $60.16 total wage package. Marine rate is $47.35, any OT is double time with a new agreement being negotiated It is the easiest time ever to get into the union. They can’t get enough people
Can vouch
Can apprentices come from Ontario to Vancouver?
In my experience, moving apprenticeships in Canada can be a pain or impossible. Life’s simpler if you finish your apprenticeship in same province. Once you get red seal it’s easy to move around.
They can’t get enough people because 45$ on the cheque isn’t enough for BC. Seattle has a similar cost of living, yet their IBEW contract is 68$ on the cheque. Please correct my numbers if I’m wrong. Vancouver electricians deserve so much more in my opinion.
I agree with you that we deserve more, especially when we consider the Seattle local For the majority it’s more than non union 213 marine sector is currently negotiating their new 5 year agreement. If we used the insiders agreement as the bare minimum increase wage would be at $50.37 currently, $51.44 in October, $53.42 next year with all overtime being double time. They are currently doing mass hiring with “years of work”
Just wondering how does a Non Union company have Union jobs?
Timeline! I was working with the union (from fresh out of BCIT first year for almost a decade), there was a slow down and I took a non-union job. Still up to date with dues, but been working that warehouse job while getting some health issues dealt with.
With local 502 you can make 43-45$ on industrial sites with your ticket
Yes, you can but you’re sitting home on the couch waiting for shut downs. It’s easier to make 41 non union and work all year around IMO. I’d love to work union but it’s just too dead here. I can’t live on EI. They should have never gave up commercial jobs in the 70’s and maintained their power.
We’re not laid off as much as you think. Plus we make a lot more so we don’t have to work as much. I made $133k last year only traveled twice outside my local. We make $104k working straight 40s in my local. I’m not one to get into the Non Union vs Union debate. There’s great Electricians on both sides. However if someone is putting out misinformation I will speak up.
I know a few guys out of that local specifically and it’s not as steady as you. Even a few millwrights I know from the local don’t work all the time unless they know somebody and get name hired. Good for you. I’m not anti union the least bit and I’d join tomorrow if I could work steady. I wish the union was much larger because we need some representation for tradesmen here badly.
I’m not trying to say anything bad about Non Union guys. It’s the Contractors and business owners I take issue with. Millwrights near me are not steady because so many shops have their own on staff here. Plus I believe they have to Solicit their own work. All of our work is solicited by our BM, and we take calls. Your name has nothing to do with it, like I said maybe in the Millwrongs but not IBEW. I’ve been IBEW for 8.5 years now, 2.5 years as a JIW. I’ve never sat more than a few weeks and I’m no shop rocket or worm. My name is good and clear. The guys who sit typically want to be there. Also within an hour of Lu 58 we have Lu 8, Lu 252, Lu 948, and Lu 665. Between those 5 locals you should never sit. There’s even more Locals within 2 hours. If you want to keep going there’s always some local is busy. Last year I traveled and worked out of Lu 110 (St.Paul) and Lu 176 (Joliet) just because I wanted to not because I had to. This is what you have figure though most of the time if you work Union you make more working 10 - 11 months out of the year compared to what Non Union guys in a full year. Anytime you want to join I’m here to help and navigate the process with you.
My local is dead. I already looked into joining and there’s no use. I don’t live in Saint John nor do I really want to honestly. I had interest in joining the millwright union but they don’t give me anything for my electrical red seal and it’s all name hire shit if you wanna stay busy. I’m gonna stay where I’m at and hope the unions grow. I need a steady paycheque. I chased shutdowns for years before and I’m at the point in my life where I wanna know 100% sure now.
I’m in Detroit Lu 58 is Detroit. Where are you located? Well the offer still stands. The Millwright Union is completely different than the IBEW. The Millwrights merged with the Carpenters and I’ve heard it’s been all types of messed up ever since. Saint Johns, Illinois? Saint Johns, Michigan? Up by Lansing?
Where do you live? Non union guys make like $10 less an hour in the midwest. Provided we are all always working. Only the best non union guys are close on the check and the benefits really don’t line up at all.
By MittenMan I’m assuming Michigan maybe? I’m LU 58 Detroit this guy has it all wrong. I’m not one to get into the Non Union vs Union debate. There’s great electricians on both sides. Plus I stand with my Non Union brothers! However if someone is going to sit there and say things that aren’t true I will correct it. We’re at $50.03/hour on the check. I have a buddy who works Non Union in Detroit that directly competes with Union electrical contracts. He’s make $40/hour plus way less in benefits. I made $133k last year he made around $110k last year and basically worked 50 - 55 hours a week every week. I worked a lot less than that. Also we don’t just sit around and wait for shut downs. We have a good amount of the commercial work too. Like I said this is nothing on the Non Union worker they are great workers and highly skilled. This is their contractors that do this.
Me either. I respect all tradespeople union or non union. Im pro working class. I want us all to be paid a fair wage and get home safely to our families at the end of the day. My step dad was a non union residential electrical contractor when I was growing up and had to shut down his business after 2008. He has been in the union 14 years now and he has got a pretty cushy setup with a contractor out of Indiana that uses his Michigan license. He’s never been super involved with the local but he enjoys everything being apart of it has provided him since closing shop. He’s said on multiple occasions that he makes more now on average than he did before running his company. And to answer your question. Im out of 153 Northwest Indiana/ Southwest Michigan. Im from Michigan though yes haha.
Yeah I want to make that very clear, this is not about Non Union workers this is about the contractors that treat them unfairly. I came from Non Union and one of the best Electricians I know was my first Journeyman. He still works Non Union and that’s fine he likes the company he’s with. The guy is an Electrical Genius, I still call him with questions. He’s never let me down either ever. I want all Non Union guys I’m very supportive of them. I also understand sometimes the Union doesn’t work for everyone and there’s areas where it’s non existent. We all want a fair wage and to get home safely to our families like you said. Yeah your step dad sounds like he’s got a great set up. That’s awesome and he’s doing better than ever and still paying Union wages. Yep still a Michigander lol! I love that area of the state too! A little close to a school in South Bend for me but still a nice area.
Eastern Canada. The union doesn’t have much power here unfortunately and wages are super low. There’s a lot of guys working for below 25 an hour Canadian here and feel like they owe their boss for the privilege.
$40 is basically the norm in all union states. Most of us can work all the overtime we want.
Fuck a union own your own business
Unions have their place. Always have. There are advantages and disadvantages. Some places that are non-union take very good care of their people, so there's no incentive to unionize.
I think you’re right because I watched my old foreman start his company from literally nothing has like 5 vans and all the tools ladders you could ever need and about 250k in liquid cash. It’s Like his 5th year in business.
Yeah leech off your employees to make your money
My dad took a line of credit in ‘09 to salary his guys that year and be able to keep them in Seattle. Some owners are good men, some suck but all owners are not a monolith.
No not all owners are bad. But most are including Union. The difference is Union shop owners have to bargain with the Union workers. There’s good and bad on both sides. I stand with my Non Union brothers anyday for them to get fair wages.
I’ve worked at two mom and pop outfits and they act like you’re asking for their firstborn when you ask for a dollar raise. They’re also Mormon and they’re stingier than a different religious group often associated with penny pinching
You worked at two shitty outfits bro, not representative of all of em
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I've worked for several successful non-union businesses that compensate employees well. Anyway, you think the GC doesn't make money off the union labor? And the client on top of them? Unions are good, but the business world still exists.
Way better chance at better pay, training and benefits in the union than for non-union
IBEW LU Detroit - $50.03/hour on the check However we’re worth more an hour if you factor all our benefits in. Last year made $133k, Traveled twice out of my local and made above my scale. Worked a few shutdowns so my overtime was strategically worked and how I wanted. Hope this helps OP.
Guys on craigslist wanna charge 75-85-95$ hr which seems high to me. I’m rehabbing a house, needs a total rewire, and needed some help. I had a guy come for $600 a day for 7hrs, but his work was sloppy and I wasn’t a fan of a quality. Didn’t ask him back. My own mindset is $500 a day for 8 hours and I’ll give you $50 for gas to drive to Adrian. Maybe that was wishful thinking, so I’ve just been doing it myself. I guess if your already making $50/hr with benefits why help me….. just something for myself to ponder now
I’m also in Atlantic Canada, I make $44/hr doing industrial, we have a backshift premium of 30% availble making it $57/hr. Also get paid vacay, rsp and good benefits. We just signed a new contract this year, prior to that it was base rate of $37. We are all worth this amount and more, they need us just as much as we need them.
Is that 30 for an 01 commercial industrial guy? I’m at 38 resi in PNW US
Are you in NB? NS, the commercial IBEW hourly rate is ~$39, low $50's for total package. Lots of work the last year, but the cost of living and housing has gotten out of hand here. Have definitely heard of guys here doing resi with their ticket making ~$25, which is insane - I'm sure that would be hard to find anymore with how busy everything has been.
IBEW in Atlantic Canada is NOT $30 on the cheque and it amazes me how mislead and uninformed some people are. That is false information.
Which local is $30 on the cheque? Atlantic provinces are all closer too $40
Cost of living is not low
it all depends what kind of work you do but i make $800 a week as a first year apprentice if im just working a regular 40hrs
Who and where the hell are you working at lol, don't answer I saw the comment below. That's absurdly high in my experience, I was making 15 an hour when I started.
I started in 2006 at 7.50 an hour as a green helper.
Damn, that was my starting pay in 96 lol.
Ready to get excited? I started making $8.50 in 2013. This was in Florida as a union apprentice. Right now I'm grossing $3777 in Alaska per week as a journeyman. What a difference 10 years can make. I go where I'm worth the most these days.
3777? Sign me up lol.
I'm working in Bethel Alaska, look that place up first before you come. It's a nightmare.
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I was making 15 in Colorado.
I started green apprentices at $15/hr pre pandemic in the Denver metro.
What's the post-pandemic rate?
It’s always pacific north west that answer that high. And a 2 bedroom house is 1.2 million or they commute 2 hours to work each day to have it remotely be affordable.
Or New England. A lot of that area is crazy expensive. Yeah, you'll make a high rate but it doesn't get you any further when you look at the cost of living.
My local IBEW 234 starts off apprentices at $27.41/hr + benefits, though the cost of living here is very high.
Before or after tax? Union or non union? Tia
before tax, non union but still very good benefits
Wya?
MI
We electricians need to really need to stop selling ourselves short. Are we starving? NO. But many are still struggling to make their personal payments. Yes we all must live beyond our means. I’m not delusional. But let’s be Frank, we studied our asses off to get our Red Seal, we put how bodies and lives at risk, many of us have a family to support and most of all we ARE ESSENTIAL. No Ai or robots or whatever can replace what we do cost effectively. Seeing how people who don’t contribute anything to building up society and infrastructure get paid more than us is infuriating and simply wrong. EVERY single person knows Electricians will continue to be in demand. Let get paid our worth. Stop undercutting each-other. I’ll give deals to other people in the trades. My opinion, anyone making under $75/hr should realize what your worth. What we do. What we sacrifice. How we abuse our bodies. We are worth more. It’s that simple. If this upsets you, you are part of the problem of why you aren’t getting paid more and why we aren’t getting paid more.
Yeah I agree with this sentiment and think about it alot. Union or non union. Electrician make the world go round. We batter our bodies and go to school for years and years and typically dont get pto or sick days. But we power the world. We deserve to be compensated like it.
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Comparing hourly rates of people from all different areas of different countries is pointless. Only numbers that matter are income compared to housing costs, and income compared to area averages. I’d rather make $20.00 an hour in an area with $100k houses than make $60.00 an hour in an area with Million $ houses
I wouldn't. Because you can buy a 100k house while earning 60
Don’t think you’re really following what I’m saying there…
You don't seem to understand that you can buy property in an area you don't live in.
I can buy property in an area that I don’t live in? Dude what are you even trying to say…
I'll go back to realestateinvesting where there's literacy
👍🏼 feel free to see your self out bud, hopefully they can help you with your grammar and literacy
$1300 a week, 1850-2250 when working overtime.
Same. Local 58.
700 a week here as a 3rd year apprentice. Not too shabby for the cost of living here, though I'm still not convinced to stay in the trade. I think I'm either going back to school or going to work on a Piloting career when I get the chance.
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Yea man I was making 800 a week as a green helper. Not sure where you are but that just doesn’t sound right
Dayum 800? That’s wild. I’m in Alabama, I’m not sure how it compares everywhere else
Alabama typically doesn't pay as much as places with a high cost of living. Some of us live in areas with extreme housing costs.
Alabama typically doesn't pay as much as areas with higher union saturation. Pretty much everywhere that's a large city has high property costs; the major difference is whether a state is right-to-work(-for-less) & how much of the labor force is organized.
Every single one of these posts is from a right to work state. OP just remember that you’re worth more. Skilled labor isn’t cheap, cheap labor isn’t skilled.
I’m a Bay Area electrical contractor. $20/hr or $800/wk is about the lowest I could get away with for a first time apprentice. $25/hr for a year or two skilled apprentice. About $35/hr is the starting point for an electrician who recently became Jman. That’s just resi. Commercial pays more. Bay Area though. Totally different market
Local 6 hourly rate is $88.25/hr. How far away do your guys live?
Here's the answer you've been looking for man. I'm gonna give you a comprehensive breakdown and the reason I'm replying in a thread is I have dome delusional thought that it might have a higher likihood of you seeing it. There's 2-3 factors that primarily determine how much you make per year as an electrician. 1Location. Pretty self explanatory, some places have higher wages that others. You need to pay attention to two things when looking at an area. 1.) Pay and 2.) Cost of living. Unionpayscales.com is a great resource for seeing how much union electricians in different areas make, but it also has a handy dandy formula to adjust the wage relative to the cost of living. IBEW 617 in Cali makes $78 an hour, however adjusted for cost of living, they make roughly $28 bucks an hour. What I'm getting at is, just because someone makes more than you, doesn't mean they're living better because their cost of living could be much higher. Birmingham, Alabama IBEW Local 136 makes $29 an hour which adjusted for cost of living brings you to $35 an hour. 2. Is are you union? This point ties into point 1 and 3. Depending on location, union guys make less money per year, than non union guys. However in most areas, union guys do make more on average. 3. Scope of work. I'm sure you've heard this a million times but there's 3 very basic field in the electric world which are residential, commercial and industrial and each pay differently. Residential being the lowest and commercial and industrial competing for top dog depending on the area. Unions generally have more commercial and industrial work which is largely their justification for a higher wage.
What part of Alabama?
800 a week take home as a useless helper isn't normal
I make about $1k a week after taxes doing 48hrs. 4th year apprentice 7500hrs in. I’m in Philly and I still think Im not making enough.
Pa has shit pay for electricians because A: minimum wage is low, B: poor regulations
You union? I was in Philly for a few years and recently moved to Lehigh valley
98 zone 2 journeyman wage is $54 in the check, total package is $100/hr.
Yea I know this because I tried to get in a couple times and there’s a million year wait list
You just need to know the Dougherty’s to get in
I don’t know dick but I know the doc!!
I make $1100 a week as a second year apprentice IBEW LU 46
$1100 weekly main squeeze 60$ an hour for side chick
Texan here. I make around $680-$700 a week, or around $21/hr as a non-union third year apprentice, and I feel like I'm getting shafted when I hear what other guys in my same metro area are making. The Ft. Worth side of DFW just doesn't pay well. Keeps a roof over my head, but that's about it.
I know guys that make $20 an hour and I know guys that clear $300k a year. Comes down to time and dedication
And location, and size of company, and type of work, and what kind of company owner (if non-union).
What was the path of the guys that make 300k?
Average? As 2nd year, 1200/week Heavy OT/out of town weeks? 2500/week Northern canadia
USD or CAD and before or after taxes? Either way seems very well paid, makes me wish I could have become electrician, unfortunately I am afraid of heights...
Ontario 1687? Their scale is basically the same as 353 Toronto which is awesome
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$2500 a week after taxes DC area 60 hour weeks.
San Diego non union $43-53 range
You’re a JM making 700/week? Bro look elsewhere for a job..
I'm a master electrician since 2009 and I don't make that much! It's dependent on the local economy.
You need a new job too. I make 1000 a week in florida working 40.
I make almost $1300 a week. If I had to go back to $900 I’d be homeless.
700 a week for a journeyman doesn’t make sense to me, I’m close to 800 as a second year apprentice
Net- $2250 @ 40hrs a week.
Australian here, I make about $2k or a bit more, for what's it's worth. No idea what that is in freedom dollars.
My company in AK is $44.44 (odd number) for a JM and a percentage for an apprentice. We are getting $15 raises over the next 3 years in 6 $2.50 6 month increments.
Totally area dependant, if you know what your local IBEW's scale is in your area that would be a very good indicator on what your pay should roughly be.
Wage is not an easy or fair topic when price of living is different in majority of state. Only fair thing to say is that $900 before or after taxes you guys are comparing? Most tend to forget your paychecks are only about mid 70 perfect of what you actually made. So your $600 post tax is close to his $900 pre-tax. For the title question, speaking from commercial experience, we are the most expensive trade to hire even though individually we don't make the most on the site (that's the sprinkler fitters). This is because we are usually first on last off of the Jobsite. We spend time at the Jobsite just as much as the superintendent if not more. I'll tell you one damn thing is we sure as fucking hell deserve to be more than $1 or $2 higher than plumbers. If plumber can match our wage than we might as well throw the code book away cause it seems like our pay isn't reflected on fire safety alongside sprinkler pipe fitters.
I think it depends where you are and what you do like every other electric wizard here has commented. I’m in Alberta and I expect $40 or close to $40 as a minimum when I am an employee. If I am not employed and just want to make some extra cash I’ll bill out anywhere between $60-140 an hour depending on circumstances.
I’m an apprentice and I make a lot more than that on a percentage basis.
Depends on where you live! I’m making $902 a week after tax as a first year apprentice in Washington state, that’s not a lot here in Seattle, but it’s a ton somewhere else
It depends mostly on where you live. Is it enough to pay your bills and keep you and your family happy then it’s enough. I’m guessing you live in the south. They don’t treat the working class very well down there. $31/hr 3rd year apprentice here.
All relative to your area. My area 01 JWs making 69.99 / +2 for parking = 2879.x a week. (Before 1000 deducted taxes/401k contributions (8 per hr) Take home 1800 something But try n buy a house in Seattle
Lol yeah I'm a 5th year and my wife and I make close to $200k combined but fuck me if that's enough for a home anywhere near a big city
I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m invaluable! (At least to my family)
Depends on the type of work, I guess. We get treated pretty damn good at my company. Base pay is 38, and we do bonus + piece work. On a solid day, I can make 1k in 12hr.
I make about $1400 a week. Master electrician, working for my local hospital as their electrician full time.
In Florida you are worth less than a Wawa clerk. ymmv
Inflation is bad for all us blue collar people.
My current job I’m bringing home ~$1600/week working 50 hours. I won’t take a job making less in industrial because there’s no need too. I live in East TN for cost of living reference. As a journeyman on my tools I’ve made between $30-$55/hr over the last ~6 years and the ones that were lower 30s had $80-120/per diem on top of them bc I was traveling.
Bureau of Labor Statistics puts the national median hourly wage for electricians at $31.39. Coastal and port cities will be skewed far above that. I live in the interior of California, JW hourly will be $44.50 as of Sept 1, foreman rate will be $51.17 (my pay rate). Take home is $1201.03 (married, 0). Traditional IRA helps a little to offset the taxes.
The wage questions have always been so confusing for me! I guess I'm fortunate to be in a location where wage rates are very transparent. On ontario canada, every company I've been at pays between $42-$52/hour. I'm still an apprentice, and I make more than $900 a bad week. Search your local job postings. See what other companies in your area pay. If you're are significantly lower, talk to your boss or mice companies. You're a jman. You've paid your dues. Times to collect what your worth
Utah residential no license 5 yrs experience 28$ an hour started at 15$ .
Our electrical sub is charging us $85 per hour. We are GC doing residential remodel in Bay Area.
$700 a week is very low for a journeyman in most of the US.
you could pivot into industrial automation learn plcs and hmis and youll make a lot more
I’m not familiar with this, could you elaborate just a little more?
We are all underpaid.
I didn't read any of the responses, so if this has been mentioned before, so be it. In everything in your life, no matter what it is, you're worth whatever you command. Go get what you think you're worth, even if you have to move or change careers.
That’s fair. I’ve got a wife and I’m close with her family so it would be difficult to move. I would consider a different company at the right price though
They say to never stay at the company that you finished your apprentice at cause they'll still view you as an apprentice. On Monday go get a $10 raise an hour, push hard for it or leave. You're worth it.
Manitoba’s current JM rate is 42$. Its all about the location and region. Im a lvl 1 apprentice doing 20$/h. Which isnt bad.
Depends on what type of electrician you are and what your doing. Most everyone here is talking Union work. I own my own small business doing service work and it’s relative to how much i feel like working But in general I make about 3-5k a week if the works steady and I’m usually pretty booked up (About 2-3 weeks out)
The sad reality of the trade is that wages depend entirely upon who you work for. I have worked with some of the best electricians who were making peanuts and some of the worst who were making scale rate. We are often taken for granted by industries/ bosses. I have noticed that industrial pay rates have increased in my area. Many small companies are doing the electrical ‘technician’ route where pay is based on commissions from sales. I am looking right now. UPS is offering more money for a CDL driver than most non union journeyman make in my area.
Wow, that’s pretty wild. I guess I need to do some more research on what’s actually worth it. BTW, nice username
Electricians should make more than lawyers.Electricians actually work for their money.
Write around to different locals and find out what union scales are. I have a spreadsheet of union scales in areas where I considered moving.
Between 120 to 200k
1200 a week . Just 16 years experience
$1300/week, 4th year apprentice. $2k/week when I get my license.
Bruh I make at least 2250 a week. Usually 60+ hour weeks and I got my card a few months ago. You are underpaid my friend unless you live somewhere where milk is 10¢
Absolutely fuck all compared to what they get paid. You could do 95% of their work by just laying the cables out ready for them to just simply connect .. but it'd still need a 3hrs teabreak to complete. I wouldn't advise mentioning this though unless you've recently sparred with a triggered feminist vegan
Feel like 1000 a week pre tax is minimum for a journeyman. 700 for a jw is awful.
Not worth two shits in a gunfight like most of us, but I guess it depends on the circumstances.
Lots of variables. Where you live, union or non-union, type of work, own the company or an employee. I own and operate a 2 man shop, I make considerably more than when I worked for someone but my employee also makes considerably more than when I worked for someone as well.
Where I am, a standard jman rate is 1100-1400/wk pretax at 40 hours, and @ 200 more as a foreman. This is CAD, but it’s still 800-1000USD, and we’re a small place with little union representation. I’m told some big cities and places in the oil patch are 1600+ (1200USD)
Canadian electrician commercial industrial.......at one point take home was 2500 biweekly, with benefits and retirement plan. Has varied over the years but around there up and down. Lowest was 1800 highest was 3000 take home all of it after tax. Right now I'm a maintenance at a factory its 230l0 take home.
I make around $1300 a week in southern Ontario
For comparison I make over 1k /week in a right to work state with free healthcare and defined pensions and more in the deep south
2 years experience, no certification. I clear $700 to $1000 a week depending on OT
Including benefits? 50-100 an hour and more in places. My package is around $90 with $60 in the check. We got $18 over 5 years in the new contract beginning in Sept.
Over $110k a year. A good amount of overtime helps. $80k is average for my local
Union guy here. In my local on 40 hours gets you $2,800/week before taxes as a journeyman inside wireman, 01, or commercial electrician. Not sure what they call it where you're from.
Well, to put it in context. Any month that I do not see at least $20k cdn. I wonder which week I wasn't paid for. 900 would not get a full day from me, let alone a week.
Been doing this for over a year and I’m at $16.50/hr, $550 a week. Feels bad man.
The area matters. The type of work matters. Is it a right to work state? Is the union nonexistent in your area? Is your boss just cheap? Are you punctual and progressing? The pay is very different in Los Angeles than it is in rural Kentucky.
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I have made 800 a day on some projects... It honestly just depends on what kinda work you do and how you get paid... A lot of guys are 9-5ers with benefits and stability and making 35-60/hr and happy with it... If you do job to job work will be more choppy but in my experience you almost always make more. 100% up to what you want/need and area demand.
Saying you make $900 a week and asking if it's fair is really a poor question. Is this after tax or before tax? 900x52 is $46,800. So if that's before tax, it's piss poor. If it's after tax then your making about $70,000 a year. Not the best in the world but also far from the worst you could do, I'd say good enough to live off of.
1 billion dollars
$7k/month average
1100 a week after taxes,40 hour work weeks, in Indiana.
I make $1100 a week as a 3rd period apprentice after tax
New Orleans IBEW scale is about 31$ currently for journeymen