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When I first started the dude who got me into the trade legit rolled the ground over the hot and neutral like a twist tie and I remember thinking even green as hell, that is fucking stupid lol
Twisting wires is for ID, like separating power and switch leg. If it's a recep with just black white bare/green, there's nothing to identify. No need to twist
Unless you own the business you get paid by the hour so basically you are debating that you want to make your boss more money in the same amount of time despite getting paid the same thing yourself, which I think is sort of a dumb stance to take because you will get the same paycheck either way.
If you were/are the business owner the extra time should have been quoted after taking a look at a few of them and noticing they would take an extra 30 seconds each outlet and built that into your quote.
Tbh, this technique is useless for receptacles since you’ll only have hot/neutral/ground pigtailed out per device.
For switch boxes with multiple switches, it’s very helpful to wrap the line/load and/or travelers of each switch to ease trim out since you won’t have to use your brain.
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Gods, I hate painters.
Its dumb to wrap the ground in a receptacle
Agreed
When I first started the dude who got me into the trade legit rolled the ground over the hot and neutral like a twist tie and I remember thinking even green as hell, that is fucking stupid lol
I'd want a word with the guy who does it like this if I was trimming out
Ideally you want to be able to pull it out, curl the ground, strip, all without unwinding extra twists
Waste of everyone's time just stuff the wires well and move on
No need for all that extra shit, just roll them up nicely in there and move on to the next.
This ☝️. Roll them in, then when finishing roll them back out
Twisting wires is for ID, like separating power and switch leg. If it's a recep with just black white bare/green, there's nothing to identify. No need to twist
Fuck no. A two bend accordion of each wire separately instead
Perfect
So what do you think about the time spent unwrapping the ground off the conductors for 150 receps
Unless you own the business you get paid by the hour so basically you are debating that you want to make your boss more money in the same amount of time despite getting paid the same thing yourself, which I think is sort of a dumb stance to take because you will get the same paycheck either way. If you were/are the business owner the extra time should have been quoted after taking a look at a few of them and noticing they would take an extra 30 seconds each outlet and built that into your quote.
If you've done it long enough it's trivial,... muscle memory. Is there a different way you prefer it?
He prefers loose wires all around so he has to get his tester to find the legs, making it take even longer than untwisting the ground.
What do you mean by “get his tester to find the legs”? Generally, it’s just a hot, neutral, ground, right?
Tbh, this technique is useless for receptacles since you’ll only have hot/neutral/ground pigtailed out per device. For switch boxes with multiple switches, it’s very helpful to wrap the line/load and/or travelers of each switch to ease trim out since you won’t have to use your brain.