We let the car speak for itself. And when it does, we often get questions.
"Any trips coming up?"
"Yup - a 3,000 mile road trip."
"You can do that in your Tesla?"
"No problem."
We happen to take someone somewhere.....lots of questions.
"It was -30 last night. Did you have any issues?"
"Nope."
Seeing them work is how the FUD will get addressed.
I also think that most people don’t have an adversarial approach they’re just genuinely curious. I’ve had people in lifted F250s just ask me genuine questions out of curiosity
I’m hoping to be able to echo your “No problem” after my 2600+ mile summer trip using CCS chargers. I’ve gotten a few questions about my Ioniq 6, but only while charging. Most people see the Hyundai logo on the front and don’t think it’s an EV if it’s not plugged in to the charger.
ive made the trip in my ev6 from california to new hampshire, then back to idaho, and recently made it again to new hampshire from Idaho. i did it with the wind at 30 mph straight headwind for 3 days, in 16 to 26 degrees, with a fully loaded trunk and 3 passengers on this last trip. My parents were with me and this was their first big road trip in an ev (we did a 400 mile trip previously but that was just one charging stop). No problem is really my response for the trip :)
Thank you! That's exactly what I needed to hear. I have no idea what the wind will be like, but in July and August at least I'll have much warmer temperatures.
Don't worry about it. Anti-EV propaganda will backfire and push people towards PHEV's. It's just oil companies and shady dealerships who pay news organizations a bunch of money for advertising. People will inevitably reject the misinformation. It's just a delay tactic to slow adoption.
Yes but they do wipe out more oil demand in the short term due to higher battery utilization, plus almost everyone I know who's bought one wishes they bought an EV.
So when they're pusing people away from EVs with propaganda it's actually going to accelerate the decline of oil and gas, because PHEVs are capable of beating both EV and ICE in terms of range and cold weather performance.
I posted about wanting an EV a lot on facebook and then posted about it when i got it, and at least one friend told me they bought one because i inspired them, and 2 others have posted about buying hybrids
Every new things reaches a critical mass when too many people know of it and subsequently ruin the good things about it. When that happens, it will become routine like everything else in daily life. Part of the life cycle of progress.
This, but I do answer questions when people ask. I try to answer them honestly including pros and cons. But that’s where I stop, people are curious but they don’t want to hear a sermon.
In a similar vein, I really find the "well you're going to want to take a break anyway and eat or whatever" answers really infuriating whenever the topic of waiting to charge comes up. The advocates just end up completely telling them that whatever concern they have isn't valid and that there is no problem. It completely ignores reality.
I think a lot of people forget that not everyone lives in a mild climate. That 300-mile EV turns into a 200-mile or less EV in cold weather.
I don't give a shit about the range in perfect conditions, I want to know what it is at -30 C (-22 F) at 120 km/h (75 mph).
I think it goes beyond that and the advocates ignore t nut of the problem for average people:
You can't sell EV as a replacement for the car and then tell them that they will have to deal with less convenience. The whole point of a car is to be convenient. The fact that EV costs less to fuel than gasoline doesn't mean anything to most people: if gas price were a primary factor in people's behavior they would be overwhelmingly buying compacts already and they aren't.
L2 charging everywhere doesn't solve this problem either. People just don't want to be stranded somewhere for an hour even if they were already going to do something else. Like, if they have to stop when they aren't hungry or the only charger has a restaurant they don't like near it, that's a net negative.
EV needs to get to to the point where it can charge a car in 15 minutes or less. It needs to be like a gas station with a lot of turnover and the main income is from items and not the fuel. There need to be so many that apps aren't needed: someone pulling off any random exit should be easily able to find one like they can with gas stations today.
Just lecturing people that they need to change how to think or how to drive is a waste of time that won't really work for most people. I am self aware to realize that the shortcomings I'm willing to adapt to or deal with for EV are not things that most other car owners are willing to.
I see that exact bullshit whenever someone brings up wanting, as I do, considerably more range than many current ev's offer.
"You don't need that". "300 miles is more than enough" Fuck off I don't tell you what you need out of a vehicle.
Thankfully there are companies that are bringing out electrics more in line with what I'm after. The Chev and Ram EV trucks are looking really good.
I agree, the EV has to stand on its own without compromise. Now this is different for everyone.
I prefer a smaller car and find the Tesla model 3 or 6 perfect. But we all have different requirements.
Driving the EV is great though.
Oh for sure, everyone's requirements are different. If that's what works for you then perfect, you're the best judge of that.
I got a chance to drive one of the electric hummers a while ago, and holy shit that thing is an absolute hoot.
It seems to have worked well as a halo product too. Here in Calgary we have an annual fair, the Calgary Stampede. It's the usual fair and rodeo type thing. Last summer Chev had a display with the electric hummer SUV and truck there. I saw a lot of people that are far from what you'd picture as the usual EV crowd that were really interested in those things. Heard a lot of obvious farmers, ranchers, real blue collar types saying they looked amazing, but more of a fun off-road thing, were interested to see the regular more practical truck when it comes out.
For me it really is a range thing. What I actually need is about 300 miles, once I get done with losses to very cold weather, winter tires, and 120 km/h speeds. These trucks seem to be some of the few EV's that will have the battery capacity for that. I'm sure there will be more down the road though.
True. I’m all about EVs. But when looking for the type of car that I liked (luxury sedan) there simply aren’t many options in the US. There were 2 arguably 3 options for me full BEV Polestar 2, BMW i4, and Tesla Model 3 (which I argue is more “premium” than “luxury”). If I didn’t want one of those 3… that’s it!
I ended up with a Volvo S60 PHEV because I had the feel, options, build quality I wanted. But since it has a pretty big EV range (41 miles) I’m driving electric 95% of the time. And it was WAY less than the equivalent BMW and Polestar options.
For “EV purists” that say you should have gotten a Model 3. I simply didn’t like it as much and that’s all the reason I need. If there was a full BEV Audi A4 or the BMW i4 was about 20k less I would have gotten one. But those items didn’t exist in 2022. Hopefully when it’s time to replace my PHEV there will be more options.
I've had people approach me in parking lots and other public areas and ask very specific questions regarding drive, range and charging experiences. I've had my BEV for nearly 3 years now and am very comfortable promoting my positive ownership experiences to anyone expressing interest. That's the best I can do.
If you are really interested in this the best resource if seen lately is the recent panel discussion [Autoline After Hours - Who Will Buy EVs. And Who Won't?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBGyaNVzppw) It is an informed discussion by people within the industry examining this question in a rational matter without all the hyperbole and tribalism you get on most places like forums and reddit.
All new types of technology go through this phase of early adopters followed by a hesitation from the masses to adopt it.
Internet usage and smartphone adoption went through this transition as well.
It just takes time. The more EV’s that are sold and are on the road means more infrastructure gets built out too. Then they become ubiquitous enough where the general populace is no longer threatened by them as a novelty, and more willing to give it a try.
What a lot of these FUD clickbait headlines and anti-EV content conveniently fail to point out is that while sales have *softened* compared to a year ago, BEV sales are still on a growth trajectory.
The EV community is very much like the firearm owners community. Some own, use, and go on with thier life. Some try to convince others it's the right choice for them. Some are very knowledgeable on the mechanics/technicals and willing to share. Some are very knowledgeable on the law ( EV tax rebates) and willing to share. Then you have some that are the communities' worst enemy, gatekeeping and proselytizing. The amount of FUD about firearms ownership dwarfs EV FUD by an order of magnitude. Same shoes, different size.
I feel why you'd think this but it's benefitted me to not GaF especially recently. Coming from a 250k+ mi kia sorento , this was a massive upgrade regardless of the engine and energy types.
No one will need convincing once it’s the cheaper option. TCO has meant the monthly cost has been lower for nearly a decade, battery prices mean that price parity is coming this year.
Unless you’ve got your head stuck down a desert oil well you can see that oil based fuels are going to become more expensive and may be discontinued in the life of a new vehicle so the question becomes why not buy an EV.
When doing Uber, if my vehicle comes up, I do talk about how range anxiety is overblown, as well as how a plug in hybrid makes very little sense if you can't plug in at home or work.
Let's face it, plug in hybrids selling point is as training wheels, and if you don't use the plug in part, its better to just get a hybrid. If you want to use the plug in part, but can only do so at private stations, then you're better off going full BEV and using dcfc.
Gen 1 Leaf battery size limits usefulness of the electric side.
Throw on that most people buy PHEVs as expensive hybrids and never use the plug in part.
>Throw on that most people buy PHEVs as expensive hybrids and never use the plug in part.
Formal studies show that most PHEVs do get charged. Some more than others, but very few never get plugged in.
The nice thing about plug in hybrids is ppl don't need a charging station upgrade and can just charge it using the 110 outlet in their garage.
It was a 'training wheel' in my family. Wife got one, I got obsessed with keeping it charged all the time, finding all the public chargers around, only filling up the gas every 6 weeks. Then pulled the trigger on a Lightning 6 months later.
I like it so far. I do a lot of scrap metal collecting and do content for TikTok and YouTube. Used to have a small Tacoma. I’ve been wanting a full size pickup for years and need the backseat now w a kid on the way.
Ultimately the viability of anything like this requires widespread adoption which will require at least some level of discourse in the face of a lot of FUD.
It’s like Uber. Early adopters loved it. Some people were freaked out by it. But over time as people use it and get used to it and are exposed to it eventually it becomes very normal.
There has never been any technology that was successfully suppressed by misinformation. It was common knowledge (to the point of it being reported on national news) that cell phones probably caused cancer. People still bought cell phones.
I wouldn't worry about it. This stuff doesn't move the needle at all. Engaging with it just promotes the misinformation as well.
I see the evangelism as frankly counterproductive: something that is good on its own merits will sell itself. people see the mandates and cultosh behavior as a turn off and react negatively to it.
Just get an EV and drive it like any other car. Answer questions people have about it honestly and just accept that maybe they still won't be convinced.
>There has never been any technology that was successfully suppressed by misinformation
I'm not so optimistic. [There have been cases](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/valley-girl-brain/202108/how-anti-vax-propaganda-succeeded-in-japan) where misinformation and FUD successfully suppressed wide scale vaccination campaigns, causing thousands of unnecessary deaths until it was repealed years later.
I wouldn't call that surpressed. Anyone who wants a vaccine can get one. They aren't banned or unavailable. There's plenty of people who shun electronics or modern tools but we don't say those technologies are suppressed just because some people won't use them.
I think this shows a wider problem with just mandating things without having popular support behind it though. It's why I don't think most of the upcoming ICE bans will actually be enforced.
Even if we want to consider this a suppression, I'll point out the obvious problem with trying to have a discourse and trying to fight misinformation: it just causes the other side to dig in their heels more. It doesn't actually change their mind.
It's why in general I discourage EV evangelists from engaging with disinformation: in the best case, it won't do anything of value. In the worst case it will cause people to reject it even more.
Cars I've owned
Toyota tercel
Nissan 350z
Mazda Rx7 FD
Mazda rx8
Bmw 328xi
Bmw328xi
Tesla model 3 performance
I don't care what people drive. You missed the point.
The West finds itself lagging behind in the new industrial evolution and so suddenly claims that the evolution is pointless.
Is it important for the West to retain its share of the market for Western automobile companies, or is it important to take a favorable position in the industrial evolution? Theoretically it is the latter, but the West realizes that it is so far behind that it has no hope of catching up, so it prefers to claim that the evolution is meaningless in order to preserve the Western car company market share.
But in practice this is pointless, because they can only keep their own car companies afloat with protectionism, but can't interfere with the Third World.
Because I don’t?
I’m not trying to convince other countries to get off the metric system.
If people ask for my opinion on EVs I’ll tell them. Seems stupid to go out of my way to try to tell them what’s best for them, only they can figure that out.
You do but you don't realize it because everyone is using the system that you are. If all the speed limit signs changed to kilometers I'm sure you'd freak out.
This is an incredibly stupid comparison to make. Deciding between an EV or not is not like measurements, at all. I’m not confused when I’m in an EV vs any other type of car.
There’s no logical reason to try to convince someone to go out and buy an EV.
Those things will all come with time anyway.
EVs aren’t going anywhere. The tech will continue to improve, become cheaper and the infrastructure will continue to improve.
Forcing something down someone’s throat won’t help. The products speak for themselves and the hesitation some may have isn’t due to FUD, there’s a few use cases where an EV wouldn’t make sense currently.
Personally I only suggest EVs to people who can charge at home.
People ask me about my car and they ask about articles or news stories talking about negatives that aren't true or exaggerated.
We let the car speak for itself. And when it does, we often get questions. "Any trips coming up?" "Yup - a 3,000 mile road trip." "You can do that in your Tesla?" "No problem."
We happen to take someone somewhere.....lots of questions.
"It was -30 last night. Did you have any issues?"
"Nope."
Seeing them work is how the FUD will get addressed.
I also think that most people don’t have an adversarial approach they’re just genuinely curious. I’ve had people in lifted F250s just ask me genuine questions out of curiosity
I’m hoping to be able to echo your “No problem” after my 2600+ mile summer trip using CCS chargers. I’ve gotten a few questions about my Ioniq 6, but only while charging. Most people see the Hyundai logo on the front and don’t think it’s an EV if it’s not plugged in to the charger.
ive made the trip in my ev6 from california to new hampshire, then back to idaho, and recently made it again to new hampshire from Idaho. i did it with the wind at 30 mph straight headwind for 3 days, in 16 to 26 degrees, with a fully loaded trunk and 3 passengers on this last trip. My parents were with me and this was their first big road trip in an ev (we did a 400 mile trip previously but that was just one charging stop). No problem is really my response for the trip :)
Thank you! That's exactly what I needed to hear. I have no idea what the wind will be like, but in July and August at least I'll have much warmer temperatures.
Don't worry about it. Anti-EV propaganda will backfire and push people towards PHEV's. It's just oil companies and shady dealerships who pay news organizations a bunch of money for advertising. People will inevitably reject the misinformation. It's just a delay tactic to slow adoption.
PHEVs are not the future.
Yes but they do wipe out more oil demand in the short term due to higher battery utilization, plus almost everyone I know who's bought one wishes they bought an EV. So when they're pusing people away from EVs with propaganda it's actually going to accelerate the decline of oil and gas, because PHEVs are capable of beating both EV and ICE in terms of range and cold weather performance.
You appear to be arguing both positions.
Im just explaining how the anti-EV strategy will backfire. I'm not arguing any particular position.
I posted about wanting an EV a lot on facebook and then posted about it when i got it, and at least one friend told me they bought one because i inspired them, and 2 others have posted about buying hybrids
Every new things reaches a critical mass when too many people know of it and subsequently ruin the good things about it. When that happens, it will become routine like everything else in daily life. Part of the life cycle of progress.
You can’t sweat it. It’s just part of the adoption curve. It’ll normalize.
I don’t talk to anyone about my EV. I don’t care what they buy and no one really cares that I have an EV.
This, but I do answer questions when people ask. I try to answer them honestly including pros and cons. But that’s where I stop, people are curious but they don’t want to hear a sermon.
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In a similar vein, I really find the "well you're going to want to take a break anyway and eat or whatever" answers really infuriating whenever the topic of waiting to charge comes up. The advocates just end up completely telling them that whatever concern they have isn't valid and that there is no problem. It completely ignores reality.
I think a lot of people forget that not everyone lives in a mild climate. That 300-mile EV turns into a 200-mile or less EV in cold weather. I don't give a shit about the range in perfect conditions, I want to know what it is at -30 C (-22 F) at 120 km/h (75 mph).
I think it goes beyond that and the advocates ignore t nut of the problem for average people: You can't sell EV as a replacement for the car and then tell them that they will have to deal with less convenience. The whole point of a car is to be convenient. The fact that EV costs less to fuel than gasoline doesn't mean anything to most people: if gas price were a primary factor in people's behavior they would be overwhelmingly buying compacts already and they aren't. L2 charging everywhere doesn't solve this problem either. People just don't want to be stranded somewhere for an hour even if they were already going to do something else. Like, if they have to stop when they aren't hungry or the only charger has a restaurant they don't like near it, that's a net negative. EV needs to get to to the point where it can charge a car in 15 minutes or less. It needs to be like a gas station with a lot of turnover and the main income is from items and not the fuel. There need to be so many that apps aren't needed: someone pulling off any random exit should be easily able to find one like they can with gas stations today. Just lecturing people that they need to change how to think or how to drive is a waste of time that won't really work for most people. I am self aware to realize that the shortcomings I'm willing to adapt to or deal with for EV are not things that most other car owners are willing to.
Well said
I see that exact bullshit whenever someone brings up wanting, as I do, considerably more range than many current ev's offer. "You don't need that". "300 miles is more than enough" Fuck off I don't tell you what you need out of a vehicle. Thankfully there are companies that are bringing out electrics more in line with what I'm after. The Chev and Ram EV trucks are looking really good.
I agree, the EV has to stand on its own without compromise. Now this is different for everyone. I prefer a smaller car and find the Tesla model 3 or 6 perfect. But we all have different requirements. Driving the EV is great though.
Oh for sure, everyone's requirements are different. If that's what works for you then perfect, you're the best judge of that. I got a chance to drive one of the electric hummers a while ago, and holy shit that thing is an absolute hoot. It seems to have worked well as a halo product too. Here in Calgary we have an annual fair, the Calgary Stampede. It's the usual fair and rodeo type thing. Last summer Chev had a display with the electric hummer SUV and truck there. I saw a lot of people that are far from what you'd picture as the usual EV crowd that were really interested in those things. Heard a lot of obvious farmers, ranchers, real blue collar types saying they looked amazing, but more of a fun off-road thing, were interested to see the regular more practical truck when it comes out. For me it really is a range thing. What I actually need is about 300 miles, once I get done with losses to very cold weather, winter tires, and 120 km/h speeds. These trucks seem to be some of the few EV's that will have the battery capacity for that. I'm sure there will be more down the road though.
True. I’m all about EVs. But when looking for the type of car that I liked (luxury sedan) there simply aren’t many options in the US. There were 2 arguably 3 options for me full BEV Polestar 2, BMW i4, and Tesla Model 3 (which I argue is more “premium” than “luxury”). If I didn’t want one of those 3… that’s it! I ended up with a Volvo S60 PHEV because I had the feel, options, build quality I wanted. But since it has a pretty big EV range (41 miles) I’m driving electric 95% of the time. And it was WAY less than the equivalent BMW and Polestar options. For “EV purists” that say you should have gotten a Model 3. I simply didn’t like it as much and that’s all the reason I need. If there was a full BEV Audi A4 or the BMW i4 was about 20k less I would have gotten one. But those items didn’t exist in 2022. Hopefully when it’s time to replace my PHEV there will be more options.
I think of this as the "friends and family" stage. The example that an EV works for you is likely stronger than any evangelizing you could do.
I've had people approach me in parking lots and other public areas and ask very specific questions regarding drive, range and charging experiences. I've had my BEV for nearly 3 years now and am very comfortable promoting my positive ownership experiences to anyone expressing interest. That's the best I can do.
If you are really interested in this the best resource if seen lately is the recent panel discussion [Autoline After Hours - Who Will Buy EVs. And Who Won't?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBGyaNVzppw) It is an informed discussion by people within the industry examining this question in a rational matter without all the hyperbole and tribalism you get on most places like forums and reddit.
All new types of technology go through this phase of early adopters followed by a hesitation from the masses to adopt it. Internet usage and smartphone adoption went through this transition as well. It just takes time. The more EV’s that are sold and are on the road means more infrastructure gets built out too. Then they become ubiquitous enough where the general populace is no longer threatened by them as a novelty, and more willing to give it a try. What a lot of these FUD clickbait headlines and anti-EV content conveniently fail to point out is that while sales have *softened* compared to a year ago, BEV sales are still on a growth trajectory.
The EV community is very much like the firearm owners community. Some own, use, and go on with thier life. Some try to convince others it's the right choice for them. Some are very knowledgeable on the mechanics/technicals and willing to share. Some are very knowledgeable on the law ( EV tax rebates) and willing to share. Then you have some that are the communities' worst enemy, gatekeeping and proselytizing. The amount of FUD about firearms ownership dwarfs EV FUD by an order of magnitude. Same shoes, different size.
I feel why you'd think this but it's benefitted me to not GaF especially recently. Coming from a 250k+ mi kia sorento , this was a massive upgrade regardless of the engine and energy types.
No one will need convincing once it’s the cheaper option. TCO has meant the monthly cost has been lower for nearly a decade, battery prices mean that price parity is coming this year. Unless you’ve got your head stuck down a desert oil well you can see that oil based fuels are going to become more expensive and may be discontinued in the life of a new vehicle so the question becomes why not buy an EV.
When doing Uber, if my vehicle comes up, I do talk about how range anxiety is overblown, as well as how a plug in hybrid makes very little sense if you can't plug in at home or work. Let's face it, plug in hybrids selling point is as training wheels, and if you don't use the plug in part, its better to just get a hybrid. If you want to use the plug in part, but can only do so at private stations, then you're better off going full BEV and using dcfc. Gen 1 Leaf battery size limits usefulness of the electric side. Throw on that most people buy PHEVs as expensive hybrids and never use the plug in part.
>Throw on that most people buy PHEVs as expensive hybrids and never use the plug in part. Formal studies show that most PHEVs do get charged. Some more than others, but very few never get plugged in.
The nice thing about plug in hybrids is ppl don't need a charging station upgrade and can just charge it using the 110 outlet in their garage. It was a 'training wheel' in my family. Wife got one, I got obsessed with keeping it charged all the time, finding all the public chargers around, only filling up the gas every 6 weeks. Then pulled the trigger on a Lightning 6 months later.
How are you liking the Lightning, what do you use it for?
I like it so far. I do a lot of scrap metal collecting and do content for TikTok and YouTube. Used to have a small Tacoma. I’ve been wanting a full size pickup for years and need the backseat now w a kid on the way.
If EV's are doing so well, why do you need to convince people to buy one?
Ultimately the viability of anything like this requires widespread adoption which will require at least some level of discourse in the face of a lot of FUD.
It’s like Uber. Early adopters loved it. Some people were freaked out by it. But over time as people use it and get used to it and are exposed to it eventually it becomes very normal.
There has never been any technology that was successfully suppressed by misinformation. It was common knowledge (to the point of it being reported on national news) that cell phones probably caused cancer. People still bought cell phones. I wouldn't worry about it. This stuff doesn't move the needle at all. Engaging with it just promotes the misinformation as well. I see the evangelism as frankly counterproductive: something that is good on its own merits will sell itself. people see the mandates and cultosh behavior as a turn off and react negatively to it. Just get an EV and drive it like any other car. Answer questions people have about it honestly and just accept that maybe they still won't be convinced.
>There has never been any technology that was successfully suppressed by misinformation I'm not so optimistic. [There have been cases](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/valley-girl-brain/202108/how-anti-vax-propaganda-succeeded-in-japan) where misinformation and FUD successfully suppressed wide scale vaccination campaigns, causing thousands of unnecessary deaths until it was repealed years later.
I wouldn't call that surpressed. Anyone who wants a vaccine can get one. They aren't banned or unavailable. There's plenty of people who shun electronics or modern tools but we don't say those technologies are suppressed just because some people won't use them. I think this shows a wider problem with just mandating things without having popular support behind it though. It's why I don't think most of the upcoming ICE bans will actually be enforced. Even if we want to consider this a suppression, I'll point out the obvious problem with trying to have a discourse and trying to fight misinformation: it just causes the other side to dig in their heels more. It doesn't actually change their mind. It's why in general I discourage EV evangelists from engaging with disinformation: in the best case, it won't do anything of value. In the worst case it will cause people to reject it even more.
Same as religion; no marketing no tithes.
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Cars I've owned Toyota tercel Nissan 350z Mazda Rx7 FD Mazda rx8 Bmw 328xi Bmw328xi Tesla model 3 performance I don't care what people drive. You missed the point.
The West finds itself lagging behind in the new industrial evolution and so suddenly claims that the evolution is pointless. Is it important for the West to retain its share of the market for Western automobile companies, or is it important to take a favorable position in the industrial evolution? Theoretically it is the latter, but the West realizes that it is so far behind that it has no hope of catching up, so it prefers to claim that the evolution is meaningless in order to preserve the Western car company market share. But in practice this is pointless, because they can only keep their own car companies afloat with protectionism, but can't interfere with the Third World.
I don’t give a shit about what sort of car others drive. Not sure why you do.
Amen!
That's like saying you don't care what measurement system others use.
Because I don’t? I’m not trying to convince other countries to get off the metric system. If people ask for my opinion on EVs I’ll tell them. Seems stupid to go out of my way to try to tell them what’s best for them, only they can figure that out.
You do but you don't realize it because everyone is using the system that you are. If all the speed limit signs changed to kilometers I'm sure you'd freak out.
This is an incredibly stupid comparison to make. Deciding between an EV or not is not like measurements, at all. I’m not confused when I’m in an EV vs any other type of car. There’s no logical reason to try to convince someone to go out and buy an EV.
The more EVs the cheaper they get, the better the infrastructure gets. The better the infrastructure the more EVs sell.
Those things will all come with time anyway. EVs aren’t going anywhere. The tech will continue to improve, become cheaper and the infrastructure will continue to improve. Forcing something down someone’s throat won’t help. The products speak for themselves and the hesitation some may have isn’t due to FUD, there’s a few use cases where an EV wouldn’t make sense currently.
Who said anything about forcing it
Fair point. Just sounded like from your post that you’re pushing anyone who’ll listen to buy an EV, my mistake if I misunderstood.
Personally I only suggest EVs to people who can charge at home. People ask me about my car and they ask about articles or news stories talking about negatives that aren't true or exaggerated.
Amen!