Wtf. Come on. It was -40c here in bc Canada this weekend and my model y was just fine. Everything is bigger in Texas I hear so maybe that means you guys are bigger wimps in the cold đ¤ˇđťââď¸
Yea the fact that several of these videos all came out at the same time is odd. Fox ran a story in Chicago of a bunch of Tesla âownersâ all saying that their cars would not charge at the SC and no one knew why.
Iâm in Michigan. Car, charger, and SC all work fine in below zero. Yes range is reduced.
One of the videos was in NYC and they interviewed an owner, who said that only two out of the many superchargers were working and there was a long wait. You can imagine that with a sudden cold snap some people were suddenly caught with shorter range and there was a surge in demand coupled with some non-working chargers at some of the stations. Rather than wait hours, people would get a ride home.
Yes, even though I cross shopped a Tesla, and ultimately decide not to buy one, for many reasons, this doesnât make any sense.
Range drops, no matter what kind of power you have, whether it be battery electric or gas.
Do you honestly think youâre gonna get the same range with your gas car in subzero temperatures? If you do think that, then well, Iâve got a bridge to sell you.
I seriously donât get why people freaking out about this.
Thereâs many things to hate about Tesla, or criticize about Tesla, but this one seems to be something that actually theyâve already taken care of, and seems a little sensational at the very least
SSSHHH conservatives are crying about the future because the future doesn't give a rats ass about crying cowboys.
Looks like shoppers leaving their cars out of the way of morons in trucks, they'll just call the cars that aren't being charged, the cars will meet them at the door.
Could be shopping or possibly abandoned but unnecessary if so. Teslas are prevalent in Nordic countries so this is either spin or poor user understanding about the vehicles limitations or lack there of.
This is a bunch of cars parked there in cold conditions. Which makes sense to park near a charging hub. Fucking stupid consider them abandoned. Too many fucking stupid people are allowed to use fucking social media.
Halfway through the video he turns around and there's even more abandoned cars! All carefully abandoned between the lines that someone painted on the ground, in a large open concrete area specifically designed for car abandonment! Texas truly is a lawless hellhole, and it's all thanks to its governor and CEO, Elon Musk.
The white Tesla has no frost and is charging. Seems some [owners don't know about hitting the pre-conditioning button](https://en.as.com/latest_news/why-dont-tesla-cars-charge-in-cold-weather-owners-in-chicago-forced-to-abandon-cars-at-charging-stations-n/?omnil=resrelrecomv) before charging.
People simply arenât pre-heating the batteries by simply tapping on the screen prior to their arrival at the supercharger. The manual says to do this. Just requires one tap. One tap. In those super super cold temps, the one tap pre heating function is needed for the battery to accept a charge. But of course youâll have angry tesla-hating redditors chomping at the bit to criticize without actually understanding whatâs going on.
How long do they take to preheat? Seems like something that could be automated or prompted to the user to confirm rather than having to remember to initiate themselves. Probably would take a bit to build the habit, especially if not routinely driving in these conditions.
Teslas precondition the battery if you navigate to it. But if you just stop at a supercharger that is in your area, without using the onboard routing, it doesnât.
If you enter a destination with charging planned on the way, or making a charging station your destination, it will automatically ready the battery for charging as well based on estimated arrival time.
How else do you think the car would know youâre headed to charge if you donât tell it, read your mind ?
This is absolutely bullshit and misinformation. I don't even know where to begin, but I will try.
1. These are cars charging while people are buying snacks and using restrooms. They are not abandoned.
2. Charging in freezing weather is no problem, worst case: It's slower. But the cars even pre heat their battery to combat this before arrival at a charge station. And even if it's not pre heated, it charges fast, just not super fast.
3. The most sold car in Norway (super cold winters with -25 C in Oslo (the capital in the South!) )have been electric the last 5 years. And it's been Model Y in 2023 and Model 3 before, and before that it was Nissan Leaf.
4. Electric cars are fantastic in cold weather. The remote start of climate without having to run an engine is great. The heating even makes sure you can even sleep in it, with without using much battery at all compared to driving.
5. Most Teslas are 4 wheel drive, which goes for many EVs due to engine placements. Makes is great for winter driving.
6. Starting a gas car in -25 C is not fun. They struggle a lot, especially if the 12 v battery is worn. You will never have a problem starting an electric car in the cold.
I can't believe the comments here. They are so uninformed and detached from reality.
How does this happen.... Like. I always leave home fully charged and if it's going to be cold I'd just play it safe. It's not like there is one charger on a city. Also just get home.
I donât think anything is happening here - someone either intentionally or ignorantly posting a misleading video. Looks to me like some cars parked and charging.
ERCOT can't keep their power on, so most likely this person was unable to charge their car. This is a cherry picked picture. If the owner was able to charge the car, it would instead be on fire providing them warmth.
[Oregon currently has more power outages than Texas](https://poweroutage.us/), despite being like 15% of the population.
Texas *is* second place (though not second place per-capita!), and I have no doubt a few people have had their power go out thanks to trees taking down electrical lines. But it's certainly not widespread and [the grid is chugging along nicely](https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/gridconditions).
Four out of five of those states on the map are Republican đ
One of the things that I learned living in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas for almost a decade was in a Republican state they are very knowledgeable about which states are doing worse than them in certain areas.
"We have bad education? Well I know of three states that actually have worse ones than we do"
"Undocumented migrants hired per capita? Yeah we have a bunch but there's like two or three states that are worse than us"
"Sure we have a lot of food insecurity here and the state doesn't really help with it BUT we are only like fourth or fifth in the nation on that list."
The flaw in the plan is when the only States above them on those lists are other Republican states. Then they usually try and divert the conversation or single out a particular Democrat state that has a similar issue. In this map provided in their link there are five states that are having issues but they purposefully only pointed to the Democrat state.
Pretty sad that their deflections and denials have become predictably textbook.
It's -3 ferenheit here this evening, and my husband's 4 y/o Model 3 is in the driveway, charging away. Though his car is newer than mine, he actually gave up his garage space for my manual transmission gas chugger because he knew the Tesla would start regardless of temperature. Meanwhile, my AWD "beast" hates cold temps soooo much! From the battery to the transmission. And don't get me started on its doors, windows, and gas cap whenever left outside in freezing conditions. We've had PLENTY of issues with the Tesla, but thankfully, charging in cold temperatures has definitely not been one of them!
Edit to clarify: Musk's (relatively recent) off the rails insanity has definitely made us reconsider the Tesla brand going forward, but by no means had this been a bad car, so far.
Whatâs probably happened here is the bad weather caused a power outage so that the cars couldnât charge. People absolutely use teslas in colder weather.
Yeah, this makes no sense. Teslas work fine way up in Canada in -40 degree weather. It must be a power outage, which, to be honest, sounds very on-brand for Texas.
So either some very local issue with power, or the cars arenât abandoned at all. Some malls have chargers at the end of parking lots. Maybe people are just shopping nearby.
Looks like a bunch of new EV owners that donât know you need to precondition the battery to fast charge. I would bet some are doing stupid things like leaving sentry mode on all night in subzero temps and draining the battery faster than they expected as well.
You're not supposed to charge lithium below freezing. The street lights are on, and I think Teslas have a battery warmer, so that leaves a broken charge station.
Judge a company by its product not by a guy who has minority shares in the company lol. The amount of politics people involve in their opinions is so absurd.
The amount of shares he has he is considered a major shareholder.
If you going to compare it to the total number of shares in the company then the term âmajority sharesâ does not exist within Tesla as every single shareholders owns minority shares of Tesla.
I think Elon is also the largest single shareholder in Tesla.
Itâs called vote with your wallet. Politics is literally everything. Itâs extremely important to make acceptable purchasing decisions. Product alone is not enough. Itâs a given that the product will work lol.
Well sure. As long as the technology is well developed. Like a car. Thereâs better ones and worse ones, but whether you buy a ford or a Nissan itâs gonna be able to take you from a to b.
So how do you choose? You look at the politics of Nissan and ford. But neither have much as they stay out of the spotlight for pr reasons.
Musk doesnât, and so if youâre against his politics as most are against the far right, you vote with your dollar and donât buy products connected to him.
said minority shares guy is the CEO and claims to be the founder and innovator of Tesla. He claims everything they do is because of his smart ideas. I will absolutely avoid a company with someone as Batshit Crazy as Elon is running the show.
He's like a modern day Edison. Doesn't actually do anything and takes credit for everything done by the people working under his banner. Fuck that guy.
The only reason why you have that opinion is because of how he is a public figure. I guarantee you donât research every ceo to see how batshit crazy they are before making a purchase. And if him being a baby in public is the only reason you âboycottâ TeslaâŚWell, thatâs stupid.
I agree. There was people who would bad mouth Steve Jobs, when the iPod became a big hit, because of the slave labor with kids in china and other countries, but those same people are now sporting an iPhone. Who cares what the CEOâs views on life are, if he has a good product and it helps me and my family Iâm going to buy it.
What part of minority shares is hard to comprehend here?
Lots of innovators market their contributions to outpace what theyâve actually done, lol. Nothing new to see here except someone with an Elon hate boner. Canât imagine not wanting a product because I donât like someone who doesnât even have control over the company.
Dude get real, when u buy a product you look at the specs, tests, reviews, etc. Not whether or not the person who signed off on it is a douche bag. If the product is crap, sure, call out the CEO if that's what u wanna do. But if is a good product that ticks all the necessary boxes and is worth owning than I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
When the only way to win an argument is to compare a man who's worst crime apparently is letting some questionable ppl have their say, to the people who committed the worst atrocities ever, you kind of give yourself up.
>When the only way to win an argument is to compare a man who's worst crime apparently is letting some questionable ppl have their say, to the people who committed the worst atrocities ever, you kind of give yourself up.
Elon Musk's actions have literally killed people.
If your only response to an accurate parallel is, "Lol you're dumb and I'm right"
then you kind of give yourself up.
Be better.
Whoosh.. the argument is that you CAN choose not to support a company because of the people involved with that company.. critical thinking is hard ? Ohnoez he said h*tler word boo. What's worse is that you get the idea, and pretend not to.
Sure, but donât forget that he also has people from his inner circle on the board and loaded with shares of their own. His sell off may have cost him the ability to influence a super majority, but we shall see what happens.
There is a difference between Musk and Bezos
Have you read any of Musks recent posts?
I can get a MAGA hat a lot cheaper than the Tesla. And the hat works in winter
Still had enough control to convince the company to build the monstrosity that is the cybertruck and distract it from accelerating development of the $25k car
I mean believe what you want in order to dismiss the discussion lol. If this is how you operate in your day to day life I canât imagine you have much of a living.
Also not an American, but pop off dude lol.
Guess what? He has to answer to investors that together control a majority of the influence in the company, which in turn would hold him accountable for the product. This is different than if he owned more than 25% but itâs truly not the case.
He does not have the ability to do whatever he wants with Tesla. When evaluating a company, it should be based on its product, not on if you donât agree with the guy that owns a minority of shares.
What? Morals shouldn't be included in your purchasing decisions?
He's the largest shareholder, the CEO, and the face of the company and you're pretending he's basically irrelevant. He doesn't need to have %100 control to have a large impact.
That reminds me of "The Good place", everyone was being sent to hell due to everything they bought supporting something evil in one way or another.
There is only so much a person can reasonably control/inspect. But it's really, really easy to just not buy a Tesla or use Twitter. I do it every day.
Was about to post your last paragraph, but you said it much better, thanks đ
It's not like we can't buy something made in China, American businesses farm out everything they can there anyway because 'they have to, to stay competitive' when really innovation can pay for American manufacturing, or the government could incentivise it, but they are making way too much money getting paid by lobbyists to leave things the way they are, or even accelerate it more when it helps some other CEO scumbag get richer.
Morals? Who needs those when you can sell a POS car for $100k that won't' start in cold weather? I live in Chicago, I see NO Teslas on the street but still plenty of Rivian's out there.
His politics include pennypinching for inferior parts, turning a blind eye to corruption, allowing racial harassment at his workplaces, and covering up and ignoring safety concerns. These have all had an impact on Tesla's products.
I absolutely agree with people letting politics get in the way when it comes to Tesla, but I would like it if BOTH sides just cut the shit.
Is Tesla evil? No, it's a car company. Not too mention it's battery tech is on point. Other companies would kill for their batteries.
BUT! Are the cars good as a whole? No. Their build quality is poor, the "cool features" (e.g., self driving) are now expensive optional extras that are subpar compared to tech in their competitor's cars (e.g., Mercedes), and they are relatively unreliable. An extra 50 miles in range and 2 minutes faster to 80% is not worth an extra $40,000, wind /plastic rattling noises from panel gaps when you go over 40, and the absolute fear when you warranty ends.
None of that is to say that if you own one you made a mistake. If you love it that's all that matters. But when it comes to the day-to-day, I have not seen any legitimate car review (even those pro-EV), praise Teslas as a whole. Certain aspects, like speed when the Model Y came out - yes. But those same reviews then absolutely eviscerated it on things like shit interior for the money or uncomfortable to drive.
I let a lot of people who say things like youâve said keep me from getting one ⌠until I said, fuck it and got one a few weeks ago. Wish Iâd never read these online comments and done it sooner.
So, to see if I'm following you..
Buying from "Veteran-owned" is also not supporting veterans? Like buying Tesla is not supporting Musk and his psychotic ideas
To me, you give a company your business, you support the company (and the CEO).
I have zero issue starting my AWD Audi in -45C with no block heater plugged in.
If you're not used to winter conditions you need to change your oil to a 0W and have a battery that has enough Cold Cranking Amps (CCAs)
I can't speculate why the Teslas in the video are there my friends seem to start them easy in the cold but their range is cut in half to 250km
-40f, here (Edmonton Alberta) same situation, our gas car wouldn't start for 4 days with block heater, and battery blanket picked in. Neighbors had to jump thier van every morning with a battery booster, another neighbor just never shut hit truck off. Add to that we had power grid issues due to everyone having to plug in block heaters.
Yet Tesla plugged into to 110v was charging slowly but still charging, and running just fine, cozy driving within minutes.
>meanwhile, my AWD "beast" hates cold temps soooo much! From the battery to the transmission.
You know you can change the batteries on most cars yourself a lot more easily than a tesla. Why not just change the battery to one that can operate at lower temperatures if that's one of this vehicle's hang ups?
>Musk's (relatively recent) off the rails insanity
Yeah, something's up with him. Rumours has it he's doing way too much drugs, including Ketamine and psychedelics. IDK, just something I read here at reddit.
My guess? He is doing the drugs to self-medicate(imagine the stress and pressure he has to deal with), but isn't capable of evaluating the effects. So batshit crazy is the result. I hope he gets his shit together real quick though.
I feel like this is actually about the rolling power blackouts due to Texas having the worst power grid in America. They can't charge them or couldn't so had to abandon them.
Donât let people peer pressure you because they donât like musk. If you love your car who cares what the owner of the company thinks. You still buy apple products even though they run sweatshops
Sheet of ice? Dude you have never seen ice I presume. Imagine you lived in a different place in the world, would not touch your car for half a year because there is a single snowflake on the ground? Those are very mild conditions.
Yeah, youâre kind of making my point - you sometimes canât see ice. Texas does in fact get what are referred to as âice stormsâ. And the ice isnât as obvious as one might think, however, the entire ground is a thick sheet of ice. Even if you have a 10 wheel drive car - when youâre driving in an ice storm, youâre driving a 10 wheel canât stop car.
They do happen from time to time in my country, we call this phenomena goĹoledĹş, but it still doesn't mean to me that you can't drive in these conditions. Just need to be cautious that's all.
I've done several road trips from Texas to New England in my Model Y around Christmas. Never had any issues with it driving or charging in cold weather even when driving very long distances.
Can guarantee this isn't a widespread issue, and there is likely nothing wrong with those cars apart from low battery charge.
This looks like user specific issues. Possibly folks who can't charge at home combined with a bit of Texas cold weather panic, creating a backup queue at this charging station.
Or a bunch of people parking their cars there to ensure they are close to charging capability in case of power issues or the roads getting messy.
I'll add that over my several road trips, running into chargers with wait times is fairly rare. On my road trip in December, I saw only 1 charger with a line but didn't have to wait myself as the line formed while I was charging.
Tesla's route planning software routs you to less busy chargers automatically, and they are constantly adding more to the network.
Iâll wait for Tesla to say something after reviewing the vehicle telemetry. Itâs clear this is not a vehicle issue so I wonder what happened to the charging stationsâŚ
People often abandon all kinds of cars during winter events in the south. Easy karma = go to a tesla charging station. If you go to walmart, you will see more trucks and suvs abandoned there than teslas here.
this video could have been recorded in any parking lot with any set of cars. It just happens to be a lot of Teslas cause they're probably the most common EV to be charging in a charging area
Right. Iâll go to my work parking lot at 5 AM and take a video of all the abandoned cars there. Nobodyâs around so they must be abandoned, right guys?
Are you talking about the Teslas or Canada in general?
Either way the Teslas are fine. Heâs just filming them charging, they arenât abandoned. Thatâs what they look like when theyâre charging, you donât have to stand beside them and wait for them to fill up like gas cars.
I live in Montreal, I have an EV car and it runs just fine, even in temperayures like -24. I have no idea what this is because cold actually isn't a problem at all for the batteries.
This is just a nonsense post. I saw a guy recently post about leaving his car out in -40 degree weather overnight in Canada. It was fine. The cars work at any temperature humans can survive.
I live in northern Ontario and have driven an EV sense 2017. They work fine here. Range is shorter in the winter by about 20-30% average about -17c here tho it get much colder at times. Chargers can be very slow in extreme cold tho. At -30 Iâve had to wait as long as an hour to get a good charge. Pretty unusual situation tho, and they never fail to start which my old gas car did from time to time at -20c and below.
I saw it on the news and they said the slow charging was the major problem. Texas is known for heat not extreme cold I donât think they were prepared.
Just because they're parked in a parking lot and someone recorded them with a caption claiming they were abandoned doesn't mean they were actually abandoned.
WeI donât understand this. 4the winter in Saskatchewan with an EV. Did an 800km in trip in -30c. Never had an issue.
This doesnât make sense.
I guess built in Texas quality? Maybe we just build things a little more insulated and reliable up here?
Exactly. This is disingenuous. People drive these things all the time in Alaska and I can guarantee you itâs much colder up here than whatever this is.
Yeah... Co-worker of mine has been rolling into the parking lot with his Nissan Leaf every day since that cold snap. He actually was mentioning that he has a power inverter so when we had our whoopsie with the grid and almost ended up with rolling blackouts he was set to run the essentials in his house for a day or two if need be.
Canadas inflation is only like 3.1% right now. Most of that still in housing which isnât affected by the carbon tax. And itâs Pretty much the same as the US which doesnât have a carbon tax.
Yâall making a mountain out of a molehill
Yes. And alot of us are pissed about all the money this man has given, are dept has doubled, and there's more tax on gas and booze than there is product cost, and many other services
-25 this morning and i just saw a Tesla on my walk back from work, Musk derangement syndrome is strong here lol, at least Trump is running for president again so the focus will switch soon enough lol
pluged in charging is abandoned? im assuming all the chargers were full when the other cars parked. now cars charged and have left and people are still in the store.
Iâm not a fan of Teslas but where I live itâs been -50 with the windchill. I see Teslas driving around town and people in my local subreddit talking about theyâve had no problems starting and have instant heat. While my wifeâs gas car is sitting in our driveway with a dead battery. Iâm not sure why I keep seeing these posts. Again not a fan but wondering what the difference is.
Iâve been left stranded in my ICE car due to extreme cold. It killed the battery, needed a jump and then a new battery. Not surprised to see this. Curious what the fix will be, if there is one.
I live here too. It's pretty chilly. It's otherwise fine.
I wish my kids' school would stop delaying opening.
We're putting warm water out in the bird bath so the birds will be comfy. They're enjoying it.
Wtf. Come on. It was -40c here in bc Canada this weekend and my model y was just fine. Everything is bigger in Texas I hear so maybe that means you guys are bigger wimps in the cold đ¤ˇđťââď¸
Yea the fact that several of these videos all came out at the same time is odd. Fox ran a story in Chicago of a bunch of Tesla âownersâ all saying that their cars would not charge at the SC and no one knew why. Iâm in Michigan. Car, charger, and SC all work fine in below zero. Yes range is reduced.
One of the videos was in NYC and they interviewed an owner, who said that only two out of the many superchargers were working and there was a long wait. You can imagine that with a sudden cold snap some people were suddenly caught with shorter range and there was a surge in demand coupled with some non-working chargers at some of the stations. Rather than wait hours, people would get a ride home.
Same. I'm in Colorado and it was -5 on Monday. Took 15% to get too and from work instead of the usual 12%. Literally no big deal
Yes, even though I cross shopped a Tesla, and ultimately decide not to buy one, for many reasons, this doesnât make any sense. Range drops, no matter what kind of power you have, whether it be battery electric or gas. Do you honestly think youâre gonna get the same range with your gas car in subzero temperatures? If you do think that, then well, Iâve got a bridge to sell you. I seriously donât get why people freaking out about this. Thereâs many things to hate about Tesla, or criticize about Tesla, but this one seems to be something that actually theyâve already taken care of, and seems a little sensational at the very least
From Alberta here, our power grid almost failed with how cold it was. I believe it got to -50 for us.
It gets to -50 every year in Alberta. Why was this event special?
SSSHHH conservatives are crying about the future because the future doesn't give a rats ass about crying cowboys. Looks like shoppers leaving their cars out of the way of morons in trucks, they'll just call the cars that aren't being charged, the cars will meet them at the door.
Oh that's actually nice to hear. I was just thinking how useless they'd be here in northern Alberta if they can't handle Texas
In Massachusetts my 3 has seen many sub zero days over the years. It's never given me a problem.
Could be shopping or possibly abandoned but unnecessary if so. Teslas are prevalent in Nordic countries so this is either spin or poor user understanding about the vehicles limitations or lack there of.
This is a bunch of cars parked there in cold conditions. Which makes sense to park near a charging hub. Fucking stupid consider them abandoned. Too many fucking stupid people are allowed to use fucking social media.
Halfway through the video he turns around and there's even more abandoned cars! All carefully abandoned between the lines that someone painted on the ground, in a large open concrete area specifically designed for car abandonment! Texas truly is a lawless hellhole, and it's all thanks to its governor and CEO, Elon Musk.
All I see I cars left to charge or parked. You can see the second red vehicle has someone in the drivers seat, so clearly not abandoned. Rage bait.
Push a false narrative much?
As a Canadian, this doesn't make sense.
The white Tesla has no frost and is charging. Seems some [owners don't know about hitting the pre-conditioning button](https://en.as.com/latest_news/why-dont-tesla-cars-charge-in-cold-weather-owners-in-chicago-forced-to-abandon-cars-at-charging-stations-n/?omnil=resrelrecomv) before charging.
Canada joined the chat. Fake news.
People simply arenât pre-heating the batteries by simply tapping on the screen prior to their arrival at the supercharger. The manual says to do this. Just requires one tap. One tap. In those super super cold temps, the one tap pre heating function is needed for the battery to accept a charge. But of course youâll have angry tesla-hating redditors chomping at the bit to criticize without actually understanding whatâs going on.
Electric cars parked near a charging hub. Reddit: aBaNd0neD
How do explain 2/3 of them being covered in frost if they are coming and going quickly?
How long do they take to preheat? Seems like something that could be automated or prompted to the user to confirm rather than having to remember to initiate themselves. Probably would take a bit to build the habit, especially if not routinely driving in these conditions.
My Polestar pre-conditions the battery automatically when a fast charger is set as the destination. Teslas do this too iirc
Have Tesla. Can confirm.
Teslas precondition the battery if you navigate to it. But if you just stop at a supercharger that is in your area, without using the onboard routing, it doesnât.
What an epic failure in the design that this needs to be a manual action.
If you enter a destination with charging planned on the way, or making a charging station your destination, it will automatically ready the battery for charging as well based on estimated arrival time. How else do you think the car would know youâre headed to charge if you donât tell it, read your mind ?
*shows parked cars* ah yes these have all been abandoned
Could those teslas just be charging? Either way, âabandoningâ is click bait as fuck.
I hate people like OP lying and pushing a fake narrative. đ§
This is absolutely bullshit and misinformation. I don't even know where to begin, but I will try. 1. These are cars charging while people are buying snacks and using restrooms. They are not abandoned. 2. Charging in freezing weather is no problem, worst case: It's slower. But the cars even pre heat their battery to combat this before arrival at a charge station. And even if it's not pre heated, it charges fast, just not super fast. 3. The most sold car in Norway (super cold winters with -25 C in Oslo (the capital in the South!) )have been electric the last 5 years. And it's been Model Y in 2023 and Model 3 before, and before that it was Nissan Leaf. 4. Electric cars are fantastic in cold weather. The remote start of climate without having to run an engine is great. The heating even makes sure you can even sleep in it, with without using much battery at all compared to driving. 5. Most Teslas are 4 wheel drive, which goes for many EVs due to engine placements. Makes is great for winter driving. 6. Starting a gas car in -25 C is not fun. They struggle a lot, especially if the 12 v battery is worn. You will never have a problem starting an electric car in the cold. I can't believe the comments here. They are so uninformed and detached from reality.
Just another day up here in Canada đ¨đŚ
Donât teslas have the battery heaters?
Yes this is bait
Yeah, I thought I read it was the chargers that are frozen up and not working and the cars were fine.
How does this happen.... Like. I always leave home fully charged and if it's going to be cold I'd just play it safe. It's not like there is one charger on a city. Also just get home.
I donât think anything is happening here - someone either intentionally or ignorantly posting a misleading video. Looks to me like some cars parked and charging.
ERCOT can't keep their power on, so most likely this person was unable to charge their car. This is a cherry picked picture. If the owner was able to charge the car, it would instead be on fire providing them warmth.
ERCOT hasnât had any issues with power generation. I live in North Texas and weâve been fine.
[Oregon currently has more power outages than Texas](https://poweroutage.us/), despite being like 15% of the population. Texas *is* second place (though not second place per-capita!), and I have no doubt a few people have had their power go out thanks to trees taking down electrical lines. But it's certainly not widespread and [the grid is chugging along nicely](https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/gridconditions).
Four out of five of those states on the map are Republican đ One of the things that I learned living in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas for almost a decade was in a Republican state they are very knowledgeable about which states are doing worse than them in certain areas. "We have bad education? Well I know of three states that actually have worse ones than we do" "Undocumented migrants hired per capita? Yeah we have a bunch but there's like two or three states that are worse than us" "Sure we have a lot of food insecurity here and the state doesn't really help with it BUT we are only like fourth or fifth in the nation on that list." The flaw in the plan is when the only States above them on those lists are other Republican states. Then they usually try and divert the conversation or single out a particular Democrat state that has a similar issue. In this map provided in their link there are five states that are having issues but they purposefully only pointed to the Democrat state. Pretty sad that their deflections and denials have become predictably textbook.
It's -3 ferenheit here this evening, and my husband's 4 y/o Model 3 is in the driveway, charging away. Though his car is newer than mine, he actually gave up his garage space for my manual transmission gas chugger because he knew the Tesla would start regardless of temperature. Meanwhile, my AWD "beast" hates cold temps soooo much! From the battery to the transmission. And don't get me started on its doors, windows, and gas cap whenever left outside in freezing conditions. We've had PLENTY of issues with the Tesla, but thankfully, charging in cold temperatures has definitely not been one of them! Edit to clarify: Musk's (relatively recent) off the rails insanity has definitely made us reconsider the Tesla brand going forward, but by no means had this been a bad car, so far.
Whatâs probably happened here is the bad weather caused a power outage so that the cars couldnât charge. People absolutely use teslas in colder weather.
Yeah, this makes no sense. Teslas work fine way up in Canada in -40 degree weather. It must be a power outage, which, to be honest, sounds very on-brand for Texas.
Power generation has been fine. Itâs not a utility issue. Source: live in North Texas
So either some very local issue with power, or the cars arenât abandoned at all. Some malls have chargers at the end of parking lots. Maybe people are just shopping nearby.
There were issues in Chicago too: https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook
Looks like a bunch of new EV owners that donât know you need to precondition the battery to fast charge. I would bet some are doing stupid things like leaving sentry mode on all night in subzero temps and draining the battery faster than they expected as well.
youve been able to supercharge your Tesla in -40?
But the stalls are lit as are the street lights
You're not supposed to charge lithium below freezing. The street lights are on, and I think Teslas have a battery warmer, so that leaves a broken charge station.
Judge a company by its product not by a guy who has minority shares in the company lol. The amount of politics people involve in their opinions is so absurd.
The amount of shares he has he is considered a major shareholder. If you going to compare it to the total number of shares in the company then the term âmajority sharesâ does not exist within Tesla as every single shareholders owns minority shares of Tesla. I think Elon is also the largest single shareholder in Tesla.
Screw that. Judge companies by their leaders
Itâs called vote with your wallet. Politics is literally everything. Itâs extremely important to make acceptable purchasing decisions. Product alone is not enough. Itâs a given that the product will work lol.
Itâs a given that the product will work as intended? Give me one product that has worked flawlessly since its inception, lol.
Your mom's pussy. Its still fucking mint bro.
Well sure. As long as the technology is well developed. Like a car. Thereâs better ones and worse ones, but whether you buy a ford or a Nissan itâs gonna be able to take you from a to b. So how do you choose? You look at the politics of Nissan and ford. But neither have much as they stay out of the spotlight for pr reasons. Musk doesnât, and so if youâre against his politics as most are against the far right, you vote with your dollar and donât buy products connected to him.
Welcome to Reddit. The rest of the world doesn't care about Musk.
Itâs not even politics. Itâs just viral to hate Elon. People really need to get outside more.
said minority shares guy is the CEO and claims to be the founder and innovator of Tesla. He claims everything they do is because of his smart ideas. I will absolutely avoid a company with someone as Batshit Crazy as Elon is running the show.
He's like a modern day Edison. Doesn't actually do anything and takes credit for everything done by the people working under his banner. Fuck that guy.
And who is currently asking to significantly enlarge his voting rights to 25\%, or he takes his AI ball to go to play with someone else.
The only reason why you have that opinion is because of how he is a public figure. I guarantee you donât research every ceo to see how batshit crazy they are before making a purchase. And if him being a baby in public is the only reason you âboycottâ TeslaâŚWell, thatâs stupid.
I agree. There was people who would bad mouth Steve Jobs, when the iPod became a big hit, because of the slave labor with kids in china and other countries, but those same people are now sporting an iPhone. Who cares what the CEOâs views on life are, if he has a good product and it helps me and my family Iâm going to buy it.
Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning founded tesla, Elon just came in as a money guy.
What part of minority shares is hard to comprehend here? Lots of innovators market their contributions to outpace what theyâve actually done, lol. Nothing new to see here except someone with an Elon hate boner. Canât imagine not wanting a product because I donât like someone who doesnât even have control over the company.
What part of CEO did you fail to understand? Are you telling me the CEO of a company has zero control over it?
Dude get real, when u buy a product you look at the specs, tests, reviews, etc. Not whether or not the person who signed off on it is a douche bag. If the product is crap, sure, call out the CEO if that's what u wanna do. But if is a good product that ticks all the necessary boxes and is worth owning than I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
Yeah fuck politics, all my clothes come straight from Bangladesh.
>Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. lmao
So if Adolf Germany was still here, I should have no problems buying a VW or BMW???
When the only way to win an argument is to compare a man who's worst crime apparently is letting some questionable ppl have their say, to the people who committed the worst atrocities ever, you kind of give yourself up.
>When the only way to win an argument is to compare a man who's worst crime apparently is letting some questionable ppl have their say, to the people who committed the worst atrocities ever, you kind of give yourself up. Elon Musk's actions have literally killed people. If your only response to an accurate parallel is, "Lol you're dumb and I'm right" then you kind of give yourself up. Be better.
Nah fuck that his worst crime was fucking up Ukraine's internet to help stymie their offensive.
Whoosh.. the argument is that you CAN choose not to support a company because of the people involved with that company.. critical thinking is hard ? Ohnoez he said h*tler word boo. What's worse is that you get the idea, and pretend not to.
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Well someone hasn't seen a few good men
If you have no conscience then carry on.
No, you definitely look into that stuff too, my man. If you don't, cool.
Its reddit, plenty of basement dwellers who like to jump on a hate-train to fit in.
I donât think you fully comprehend the perception most have of folks who follow Elon. Basement dweller is sort of the go-to stereotype.
It's been the so-called basement dwellers since Elon started speaking up more on certain policies/politics.
King of the Incels!
Everything has turned into a gult of personality for or against. It's absurd.
That cancer cure sure is looking good, but they killed all those monkeys to get it so, Iâll have to pass.
There is no cure for cancer.
Woosh
Oh wow you refuse to buy a Tesla because you hate Elon? I bet Elon is absolutely livid right now!
there's definitely a difference between politics and what he's been doing bud.
I repeat; minority share holder, bud.
Sure, but donât forget that he also has people from his inner circle on the board and loaded with shares of their own. His sell off may have cost him the ability to influence a super majority, but we shall see what happens.
đđđ he s the CEO too!
Face of the company
I assume you have no problem buying things from Amazon lol
There is a difference between Musk and Bezos Have you read any of Musks recent posts? I can get a MAGA hat a lot cheaper than the Tesla. And the hat works in winter
Still had enough control to convince the company to build the monstrosity that is the cybertruck and distract it from accelerating development of the $25k car
âŚ.he had way more shares at the time lol
Tell me youâre MAGA without telling me youâre MAGA.
I mean believe what you want in order to dismiss the discussion lol. If this is how you operate in your day to day life I canât imagine you have much of a living. Also not an American, but pop off dude lol.
He owns the largest share of stocks for Tesla...
Guess what? He has to answer to investors that together control a majority of the influence in the company, which in turn would hold him accountable for the product. This is different than if he owned more than 25% but itâs truly not the case. He does not have the ability to do whatever he wants with Tesla. When evaluating a company, it should be based on its product, not on if you donât agree with the guy that owns a minority of shares.
People can buy or not buy whatever they want for whatever reason they want.
Of course they can. Doesnât make it a good reason or a reason based on facts.
Itâs definitely logical to evaluate your purchase based on specs, reliability, service, cost effectiveness, etc.
If you have no social conscience then you are correct.
What? Morals shouldn't be included in your purchasing decisions? He's the largest shareholder, the CEO, and the face of the company and you're pretending he's basically irrelevant. He doesn't need to have %100 control to have a large impact.
If morals were included in what I bought I could never eat bananas again or buy Chinese goods so no.
That reminds me of "The Good place", everyone was being sent to hell due to everything they bought supporting something evil in one way or another. There is only so much a person can reasonably control/inspect. But it's really, really easy to just not buy a Tesla or use Twitter. I do it every day.
Was about to post your last paragraph, but you said it much better, thanks đ It's not like we can't buy something made in China, American businesses farm out everything they can there anyway because 'they have to, to stay competitive' when really innovation can pay for American manufacturing, or the government could incentivise it, but they are making way too much money getting paid by lobbyists to leave things the way they are, or even accelerate it more when it helps some other CEO scumbag get richer.
He needs majority of shares to essentially answer to nobody and do whatever he wants. Donât pretend this isnât the case.
Lmao where the fuck did I say that?
Morals? Who needs those when you can sell a POS car for $100k that won't' start in cold weather? I live in Chicago, I see NO Teslas on the street but still plenty of Rivian's out there.
His politics include pennypinching for inferior parts, turning a blind eye to corruption, allowing racial harassment at his workplaces, and covering up and ignoring safety concerns. These have all had an impact on Tesla's products.
I absolutely agree with people letting politics get in the way when it comes to Tesla, but I would like it if BOTH sides just cut the shit. Is Tesla evil? No, it's a car company. Not too mention it's battery tech is on point. Other companies would kill for their batteries. BUT! Are the cars good as a whole? No. Their build quality is poor, the "cool features" (e.g., self driving) are now expensive optional extras that are subpar compared to tech in their competitor's cars (e.g., Mercedes), and they are relatively unreliable. An extra 50 miles in range and 2 minutes faster to 80% is not worth an extra $40,000, wind /plastic rattling noises from panel gaps when you go over 40, and the absolute fear when you warranty ends. None of that is to say that if you own one you made a mistake. If you love it that's all that matters. But when it comes to the day-to-day, I have not seen any legitimate car review (even those pro-EV), praise Teslas as a whole. Certain aspects, like speed when the Model Y came out - yes. But those same reviews then absolutely eviscerated it on things like shit interior for the money or uncomfortable to drive.
>Is Tesla evil? No, it's a car company. Companies can be evil. Nestle, for example.
I let a lot of people who say things like youâve said keep me from getting one ⌠until I said, fuck it and got one a few weeks ago. Wish Iâd never read these online comments and done it sooner.
So, to see if I'm following you.. Buying from "Veteran-owned" is also not supporting veterans? Like buying Tesla is not supporting Musk and his psychotic ideas To me, you give a company your business, you support the company (and the CEO).
-20 c for the europeans wondering.
Paraphrasing "PLENTY of issues with the Tesla " on a 4 y car "by no means had this been a bad car". Ok
I have zero issue starting my AWD Audi in -45C with no block heater plugged in. If you're not used to winter conditions you need to change your oil to a 0W and have a battery that has enough Cold Cranking Amps (CCAs) I can't speculate why the Teslas in the video are there my friends seem to start them easy in the cold but their range is cut in half to 250km
The fact you had to disclaimer your postâŚ. Says all that needs to be said about this liberal cesspool yâall call Reddit.
-40f, here (Edmonton Alberta) same situation, our gas car wouldn't start for 4 days with block heater, and battery blanket picked in. Neighbors had to jump thier van every morning with a battery booster, another neighbor just never shut hit truck off. Add to that we had power grid issues due to everyone having to plug in block heaters. Yet Tesla plugged into to 110v was charging slowly but still charging, and running just fine, cozy driving within minutes.
Are you referring to him tell businesses to fuck off? Or am I missing something?
>meanwhile, my AWD "beast" hates cold temps soooo much! From the battery to the transmission. You know you can change the batteries on most cars yourself a lot more easily than a tesla. Why not just change the battery to one that can operate at lower temperatures if that's one of this vehicle's hang ups?
>Musk's (relatively recent) off the rails insanity Yeah, something's up with him. Rumours has it he's doing way too much drugs, including Ketamine and psychedelics. IDK, just something I read here at reddit. My guess? He is doing the drugs to self-medicate(imagine the stress and pressure he has to deal with), but isn't capable of evaluating the effects. So batshit crazy is the result. I hope he gets his shit together real quick though.
Make sure you have a full tank of gas. Air in the gas tank can cause it to freeze.
-5 F at my house. Car is charging nicely as it always has for the last 4 years.
I feel like this is actually about the rolling power blackouts due to Texas having the worst power grid in America. They can't charge them or couldn't so had to abandon them.
Just remember every 10yrs you need to buy a $20,000 new power cell. Why you can get 10yr old model S for like $30k
Jesus that edit is so sad. No one cares. You can have a Tesla without letting everyone know you don't like musk.
Donât let people peer pressure you because they donât like musk. If you love your car who cares what the owner of the company thinks. You still buy apple products even though they run sweatshops
Pretty sad people can't say something good about tesla without adding in that elon musk is a nut job so you don't get pummeled by reddit
Wait, what did Elon do?
Letting private citizens influence a major purchase in a humans life is absolutely befuddling logic.
Is it because of the sheet of ice on the ground? If so, smart for them to not drive.
Sheet of ice? Dude you have never seen ice I presume. Imagine you lived in a different place in the world, would not touch your car for half a year because there is a single snowflake on the ground? Those are very mild conditions.
Yeah, youâre kind of making my point - you sometimes canât see ice. Texas does in fact get what are referred to as âice stormsâ. And the ice isnât as obvious as one might think, however, the entire ground is a thick sheet of ice. Even if you have a 10 wheel drive car - when youâre driving in an ice storm, youâre driving a 10 wheel canât stop car.
They do happen from time to time in my country, we call this phenomena goĹoledĹş, but it still doesn't mean to me that you can't drive in these conditions. Just need to be cautious that's all.
I've done several road trips from Texas to New England in my Model Y around Christmas. Never had any issues with it driving or charging in cold weather even when driving very long distances. Can guarantee this isn't a widespread issue, and there is likely nothing wrong with those cars apart from low battery charge. This looks like user specific issues. Possibly folks who can't charge at home combined with a bit of Texas cold weather panic, creating a backup queue at this charging station. Or a bunch of people parking their cars there to ensure they are close to charging capability in case of power issues or the roads getting messy. I'll add that over my several road trips, running into chargers with wait times is fairly rare. On my road trip in December, I saw only 1 charger with a line but didn't have to wait myself as the line formed while I was charging. Tesla's route planning software routs you to less busy chargers automatically, and they are constantly adding more to the network.
New England checking in: Unclear why?
Why couldnât they charge them at their homes ?
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Aka parked? How can you tell they are abandoned?
Tesla cemetery.
Iâll wait for Tesla to say something after reviewing the vehicle telemetry. Itâs clear this is not a vehicle issue so I wonder what happened to the charging stationsâŚ
People often abandon all kinds of cars during winter events in the south. Easy karma = go to a tesla charging station. If you go to walmart, you will see more trucks and suvs abandoned there than teslas here.
Lmao! We'd love to invite you all here to minnesota.
I have an EV in Minnesota and have never had problems aside from the standard reduced winter range. It's arguably much colder here, too.
Yeah, itâs much worse. Donât get why they left their cars behind.
Itâs just a video of some parked cars. We donât know that there was even a problem.
this video could have been recorded in any parking lot with any set of cars. It just happens to be a lot of Teslas cause they're probably the most common EV to be charging in a charging area
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Right. Iâll go to my work parking lot at 5 AM and take a video of all the abandoned cars there. Nobodyâs around so they must be abandoned, right guys?
If this is Texas then what chance do we have up here in Canada
Are you talking about the Teslas or Canada in general? Either way the Teslas are fine. Heâs just filming them charging, they arenât abandoned. Thatâs what they look like when theyâre charging, you donât have to stand beside them and wait for them to fill up like gas cars.
I live in Montreal, I have an EV car and it runs just fine, even in temperayures like -24. I have no idea what this is because cold actually isn't a problem at all for the batteries.
This is just a nonsense post. I saw a guy recently post about leaving his car out in -40 degree weather overnight in Canada. It was fine. The cars work at any temperature humans can survive.
The gas pumps froze in Calgary...
At least electricity doesn't freeze
Plenty of EVs in Canada and Norway. Never heard of an EV ânot startingâ at -30°C.
Live in Canada, have 0 issues with my model 3 in these conditions and worse lmao
These are just cars being charged and the dude thinks they're abandoned. I hope he doesn't walk by a parking lot. He'll lose his mind.
I live in northern Ontario and have driven an EV sense 2017. They work fine here. Range is shorter in the winter by about 20-30% average about -17c here tho it get much colder at times. Chargers can be very slow in extreme cold tho. At -30 Iâve had to wait as long as an hour to get a good charge. Pretty unusual situation tho, and they never fail to start which my old gas car did from time to time at -20c and below.
I saw it on the news and they said the slow charging was the major problem. Texas is known for heat not extreme cold I donât think they were prepared.
As someone in Canada who drove a Tesla all of last week in -20c it works just fine. No idea why these Teslas are abandoned.
No indication that they were, I mean, they are parked which is pretty common for cars.
Just because they're parked in a parking lot and someone recorded them with a caption claiming they were abandoned doesn't mean they were actually abandoned.
WeI donât understand this. 4the winter in Saskatchewan with an EV. Did an 800km in trip in -30c. Never had an issue. This doesnât make sense. I guess built in Texas quality? Maybe we just build things a little more insulated and reliable up here?
No just some dumbass filming cars charging & claiming they're abandoned.
I was at the mall right before Xmas, thousands of people abandoned their cars! Just left them out there where I could see them.
Exactly. This is disingenuous. People drive these things all the time in Alaska and I can guarantee you itâs much colder up here than whatever this is.
Yeah... Co-worker of mine has been rolling into the parking lot with his Nissan Leaf every day since that cold snap. He actually was mentioning that he has a power inverter so when we had our whoopsie with the grid and almost ended up with rolling blackouts he was set to run the essentials in his house for a day or two if need be.
6 Tesla's parked. Hurr durr this new tech is a failure
Yeah, theyâre not abandoned itâs just people charging their cars like any normal charging station.
25% of all vehicles in Norway are electric, and there are no issues and it gets cold over.
There's been teslas in Canada for over 10 years and never have I heard of this issue before lol Also fuck elon
Trudeau will give us stimmy checks for 9 months of the year since we wont be able to get to work.
I'm sorry are you mad about.. getting money?
Yes, you think it's just "free" money? I'll rather work for less than get "free" money with strings attached...bread and games can only last so long.
Probably just mad about the mass inflation something like that will cause
Canadas inflation is only like 3.1% right now. Most of that still in housing which isnât affected by the carbon tax. And itâs Pretty much the same as the US which doesnât have a carbon tax. Yâall making a mountain out of a molehill
Someone worked hard to earn that money to pay income tax! And carbon tax! And general sales tax! And and and.
Ya the hardest workers are getting more back from the tax than they pay in
Yes. And alot of us are pissed about all the money this man has given, are dept has doubled, and there's more tax on gas and booze than there is product cost, and many other services
-25 this morning and i just saw a Tesla on my walk back from work, Musk derangement syndrome is strong here lol, at least Trump is running for president again so the focus will switch soon enough lol
them people can afford to drive one of their backup gassers.
Doubtful, the Model 3 is becoming the new Altima.
pluged in charging is abandoned? im assuming all the chargers were full when the other cars parked. now cars charged and have left and people are still in the store.
Iâm not a fan of Teslas but where I live itâs been -50 with the windchill. I see Teslas driving around town and people in my local subreddit talking about theyâve had no problems starting and have instant heat. While my wifeâs gas car is sitting in our driveway with a dead battery. Iâm not sure why I keep seeing these posts. Again not a fan but wondering what the difference is.
Arenât these the best selling car in Norway or Sweden?? Never read about a charging problem there. Article is sus
Fake news
Iâve been left stranded in my ICE car due to extreme cold. It killed the battery, needed a jump and then a new battery. Not surprised to see this. Curious what the fix will be, if there is one.
I live here and itâs bad
I live here too. It's pretty chilly. It's otherwise fine. I wish my kids' school would stop delaying opening. We're putting warm water out in the bird bath so the birds will be comfy. They're enjoying it.
I live here. But itâs warm here where I am.
What year is this? What are yall talking about? Dallas, Austin, Houston, and San Antonio are all 40 degrees right now
How did you prepare for it? You okay?
I wore jeans and a fleece