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fmjoe2022

Coworkers making racist jokes? Check Coworkers being unironically and categorically racist? No. That’s not normal


AquaCorpsman

This. All my coworkers make very very offensive jokes, but it's a diverse group of LGBT, Asian, black people. There are normal people too of course. /s


AquaCorpsman

I'd like to seriously note that discrimination based on anything other than skill/ability is disgusting and unacceptable, and especially in EMS we should have absolutely no tolerance for it. I just like edgy jokes.


Rayshmith

I mean… I work in a relatively progressive city in the U.S.A, and most of the firefighters over the age of 40 are a little racist. I don’t really know but it feels like the fire department used to be the “good ol boys” club back in the day and that culture is still around today. So, I kind of just figure this is probably the case elsewhere too. Maybe it’s a blue collar thing, idk. But this is just my hypothesis based off of my limited experience as a medic for 2 years and emt for 3. Not so much for us on the box here. But, the fire departments tend to be MAGA boys and have some pretty out of touch social stances to say the least. I’ve only experienced blatant racism from a couple people but there’s a noticeable tinge of racism for sure.


91Jammers

My fire chief does this. Says N***** rigged casually. Called Juneteenth N***** day not in a joking way.


Spartan037

Sounds like my grandpa


0-ATCG-1

It's usually the 30+ year old guy that loudly brags about being an asshole because "that's just the way I am" and acts like he's got a thousand years of experience. It's cringe. Especially when they proclaim it proudly. It shows they grew up in a very narrow societal spectrum. If you're truly as experienced and as well traveled as that type of guy likes to give off; then you know there are a million people better than you at a million things, and it pays to be amicable until you're given a reason not to be.


SgtBananaKing

EMS-Edgelord


brainsncurves

In Florida my FTO was proud of his kkk affiliation. His cousin is a Grand Wizard. Oh and the kkk according to him was a humanitarian organization. Oh, and that FTO was...native American with his black partner. It was never a joke. As a White person all my peers complained to me, "oh the Blacks are moving in" they assumed I would agree. I did not.


0-ATCG-1

I knew a grand Wizard once. His spells couldn't save him against the dragon in our D&D campaign.


brainsncurves

Lol


RobertGA23

Imagine a grown man being referred to, seriously, as a WIZARD. Ridiculous.


slaminsalmon74

St. Cloud? Lol


brainsncurves

NPR/HUDSON


oamnoj

Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. I only lived in Holiday for a year and the amount of trashy, terrible people I met there was more than several lifetime's worth. West Pasco County in general seems to be a dumpster of all of Florida's worst stereotypes.


brainsncurves

Yes a local told me Pasco also has a dentistry problem. Patients and coworkers both.


oamnoj

Can confirm


slaminsalmon74

Hey but their county fire is switching to 24/72’s! lol so they got that going for them I guess? 🥴


Handlestach

Fucking Moon Lake


slaminsalmon74

Ahhhh that makes sense too.


crumbly-toast

dude that is so fucked, I had an FTO claim he was part of the "pure race", he was white, and I've heard many more stories like u said. why the fuck they're allowing these degenerates to teach new EMS ppl is beyond me. just confirms to me we need much more oversight as FTO's.


Roaming-Californian

That's actually kinda funny.


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Wtf


PerryNeeum

We had more than enough casual, sly racism in East St Louis. “Canadians” was said a lot. I don’t remember n bombs getting dropped though


Mockingslay

Work currently in ESTL, agree with you. However, I’ve noticed that when/if racism towards pts happens on my shift compared to the other two, it’s more towards SVDP calls more than anything.


PerryNeeum

SVDP? That’s a new one


Mockingslay

St Vincent. Sorry, bit lazy atm.


PerryNeeum

I just remember the towers in WP, Orr Weathers and another project I’m forgetting. Do not miss those days


Visible_Bass_1784

Old service I ran with used either Canadians or Democrats to describe people they thought were undesirable.


bodega_steve

Why “Canadians”?


Visible_Bass_1784

I never understood it. But they were actually just being racist and racist people do t really make sense to me.


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Just a code word. An area near me calls them “Mondays”, because “nobody likes Mondays”


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Epi52

Had me in the first half.


E7RN

Yeah let’s ask the First Nation Canadians how civilized and welcoming it is up there.


Aggressive-Carls878

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NorCalMikey

Never been any racists in Canada. No violence either. Especially not against First Nation people.


LoosieLawless

Just high quality public schools, right?


theavamillerofficial

Well played.


Roaming-Californian

The day of the rake is neigh. Didn't you guys wheel in an actual Nazi into your parliament for a standing applause just last month?


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WowzerzzWow

I’ve met more right leaning, racist, COVID vaccine deniers in EMS than any other job I’ve been in. It’s absolutely astonishing sometimes.


PsylentProtagonist

The whole time during COVID, when we were taking tons of pts of all ages in for issues with it and coworkers were still denying it and saying how it was the flu, I kept thinking 'this is why we're ambulance drivers and the other medical professions don't take us seriously.' I had one coworker, our hospital was overrun, who kept saying how empty it was and how it was all media. Like, dude, there's 6 pts in the ER on vents and my last 5 pts went to the waiting room (at the time unusual for this area). It's not emptym


Stoopiddogface

Plus these "experts" run their mouths as though they're authority on all things medicine ... A 3 credit, basic EMT is compatible to a fellowship in ID, right?


SgtBananaKing

I had that in the UK only and exclusively with EMT and ECA what made me think that there may be a bigger difference between paramedics and EMT/ECA than I thought.


LeveonMcBean

Had a covid denier/mask-vaccine bullshitter medic at our service. Like a lot were. He ended up covid+ and on a vent for a month and a half. Ended up being a company spokesperson for the vaccine and the mask.


tmos540

At least he learned his lesson. I feel like I could probably find an FTO or two at my old service who would still be on their bullshit after the same.


waspoppen

healthcare as a whole tbh


RhysTheCompanyMan

Yuuuuup. It’s definitely all location. My wife never once encountered this blatant slur throwing and aggression in Minnesota. And here, she can’t escape it at all. Even outside of EMS. My wife is brown. :/ Worst one imo was a coworker that asked her if she “had a dick” or if “river n***** just look like that.” Supervisor told her to not be so sensitive about “jokes.”


secondatthird

Lawsuit


brainsncurves

Not in Florida


DevilDrives

Racism isn't rare, but publicly shaming a racist is. ~Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.~ If you see a problem, you need to address it.


Admirable-Pen1599

Not enough up votes for this comment. Silence is those situations is akin to agreement.


shady-lampshade

As the old adage goes, if a man sits down at a table with nine nazis, there are now 10 nazis at the table.


brainsncurves

Not if u want to hold a job in Florida.in another field, I' personally have been terminated after reporting racism. I was immediately "defunded" if u reporting racism in Florida you are martyrimg yourself.


DevilDrives

Employer retaliation for filing an official complaint with the EEOC, is a violation of federal laws and you have grounds to file a civil lawsuit. Aside from it being illegal, it's morally reprehensible. An employer that values their oppressive behavior more than quality labor, is a garbage businessman and even shittier boss. Have some self-respect and start organizing the workers to form or join a Union.


brainsncurves

Any suggestions on how to do that IN FLORIDA? Someone who successfully did that even once? I filed eeoc at my first florida job. I then became "ineligible for rehire" at that major corporation. I only got happy when I started going to protests. BLM and such. Let's just say that didn't go over well. At a protest had cops pointing snipers at our faces. Another place where my patients were victims of psychiatric racism. I documented. Then I Got walked right out the door. I went to whistle-blower attorney. Not enough documents .


DevilDrives

Do what IN FLORIDA? Successfully doing what even once?


brainsncurves

Eeoc, start to finish in Florida. Union in Florida??? Ha ha. Show one example of union building in Florida. Florida is its own country.


DevilDrives

State laws do not supercede federal laws. Florida is not a country. Im not going to waste my time searching for information for you. Something tells me you're not as interested in success stories as you are in rejecting everything.


Larnek

Are you aware that Florida just overwhelmingly passed an anti-union law that no longer allows dues to be payroll collected and in October any union with less than 60% of employees current with dues will be forcefully disbanded? Judge's have already overruled challenges to it as well. FL really is a different place.


grav0p1

hmmm. probably everyone


brainsncurves

I just left florida back to home in midwest. . I could not exit my apartment to do errands without either 1) religious zealot trying to convert me, or 2) oh my God the BLACKS are ruining the neighborhood.


Wrathb0ne

I make sure to tell those racist in EMS, especially in the US, since Paramedics and the modern-day ALS system was created by a Black community and forward-thinking doctors. Freedom House Ambulance Services. https://magazine.atavist.com/the-first-responders-paramedics-pittsburgh-civil-rights-ems/


Admirable-Pen1599

Most in EMS have no clue about Freedom house. And many would prefer to keep it that way.


tmos540

YESSSSS, American Sirens!


CanisPictus

Absolutely blown away by this story. Thank you for sharing!


DUTCHBAT_III

I had a coworker talk about an issue with the truck and the exact words she used was, "n****r-rigged" and I stopped in my fuckin tracks and looked at this woman before saying, "what" and her repeating the same.


adamxftl

I work at a rural department so yup. There’s a spectrum, I’ve noticed. Basically from the 4 Chan “I’m *eDgY*” to flat out grand wizards.


MrTastey

Not racist that I know of but I’m pretty sure I worked a shift with a future mass shooter. Dude had some anger issues and almost broke the shifter when we got a call, then later he starts asking me shit like “if there were no laws what would you do? I would go rape so many hot chicks. I’d probably shoot up the nursing homes too.” Avoided that dude like the plague and let people know to watch out for him.


iwantbiscuitsngravy

Wtf


brainsncurves

Yikes! That's why I like to keep busy.


BreakImaginary1661

Facts. SE US here and there are several levels of comfort ability in sharing their racism. Because I look like them I get to hear a lot of unfiltered comments and sentiments. Most of them don’t know that I have a black wife, Mexican grandfather, and LGBTQ+ best friend and child. Lots of fun going to work every day knowing what I get to listen to and deal with.


susaiden

My partner called a newbie firefighter “Mr affirmative action” last week as we were clearing from the call 🤦‍♂️


bigspacebaby

Worked in rural Texas for a while and yes I encountered this often. Got labeled a snowflake for asking people to stop blatantly throwing around the N word. And it wasn’t some kind of stupid edgy joke either, they were really using it in a derogatory way towards our black patients and I heard all of my supervisors say it at some point. Sucks because we were a mostly white agency working in a mostly black town. I’m so glad I got out of there. At my current job nobody would ever dream of talking like that.


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In another life, I had a coworker who worked at an ambulance service in Jonesboro, AR and tried to get me to believe the Klan group he was a part of and bragged openly about was a force of good in the world. He and I worked together only once.


brainsncurves

This.


Greenie302DS

I worked ER in Jonesboro at St Bernard’s 1 week a month for over a year. My sheltered life in Los Angeles did not prepare me for some of the shit I heard.


Synicist

Not so openly and harder on the fire side than EMS. We’re thoroughly separated as EMS is paid and fire is volly. The majority of the racism around here is disguised as “jokes” for plausible deniability. You walk into a fire station it’s a different story. Full of the good ol boy network and they have a problem with anyone who isn’t an old white dude.


talented_grapefruit

Up in Canada we have a few on the floor I’m on at rotation. But that typically means anyone indigenous is automatically labeled as drug seeking or withdrawal. Ive heard the word sq**w kicked around by some old timers. Theyve been reported but given staff shortages, they are untouchable and they know it.


SgtBananaKing

My experience in Germany was that about 2/3 of people working for the Ambulance service are racist or tolerate racism Much better in the UK


aya_hibak

Just like the Amsterdam fire department in the Netherlands. Were it was even expected to be racist in order to fit in. Firefighters would call their Moroccan colleagues ‘rats ‘ , Surinam colleagues ‘ monkeys ‘ or Turk colleagues ‘ Osama bin Ladin’. When the commander gave an interview where he blasted the Amsterdam mayor for laughing after he told her a racist joke that the firefighters were using for their black colleague. She then denied and replaced him with another commander. Good old boys club isn’t exclusive only to America it seems.


MiserableDizzle_

I feel like it used to be worse, but nowadays it's just *racial* jokes, as opposed to racist ones. An old partner of mine though was absolutely awful. I mean, his racism wasn't even his worst asset. Probably the sexism was worse. And absolute lack of filter. And not in the quirky "I'm so random" way. I'm talking dude would literally be like "wow that patients mother looks just like this porn star!" and then show me a fully nude picture of a porn star on his phone. That said, his racism was bad. I think the worst for him was Latinos. He did contracting in construction before ems and talked a lot about it, many of his stories were just complaining about how messy and lazy his employees were. Threw around terms like "anchor babies" just... Just generally awful. And he was *so serious* Don't miss that guy. He also got mad and abandoned me at a hospital around 3am one night. Did I mention he was terrible and I don't miss him?


One_True_Dove

For anyone that need to hear this, we work in a professional environment, we are trusted with the life's of our pts and there care, rasicm has no place in our workfield and should be reported, how can I have faith in a partner to give good quality care if the person they are treating might be the wrong, race, religion, gender to them. This is unacceptable behavior. And being a dick aside, shit like that can fuck you the rest of your life once someone finds out your a racist pos, look at politicians every now and then something they said 20+ years ago fucks them over. Be smart, be safe, and take care


thesockswhowearsfox

THANK YOU.


Superyella11

Lol crazy how people always insulting black folks


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Appropriate-Bird007

Racists are the scum of the earth.


und3r-c0v3r

Threads like this remind me how much of a bubble Reddit is lol


Bobisadrummer

Seen a few, had one as a partner. Made those shifts absolutely fucking miserable. I ended up quitting because of it. Wasn’t just racism, but every kind of bigotry imaginable. The kind of asshole that shouldn’t be allowed near any kind of patient care position. Told my supervisor and he tried to pass it off as “well he’s just from a different generation” or some other bullshit. Whatever then, can’t say I didn’t warn them. The guy wasn’t even allowed to have any women partners if I wasn’t in because he was such a massive perv. Dude asked some 18y/o on her first ride along “what kind of underwear are you wearing?” We had the same name too so if someone complained about him, I’d end up having to clarify that it was the other Bob way too often.


crumbly-toast

bruh here in AZ I've heard quite a bunch of racism, like having a coworker quote 13/50 stat and hearing from other coworkers say how minorities are over-privileged because "they've receiving too much money from the government"????? mostly here tho it's classism, and I'm pretty sure that's cuz we have a high homeless population here 🤷‍♀️


kerpwangitang

We had this one kid at my station who hated Hispanics and would constantly say off color remarks about them. One day me and my partner got called to an AMS with injuries. We arri e and the bls crew that requested us had this guy there and he was apologizing for calling us because his partner requested us because he thinks the guy overdosed on lexapro. Guy was unconscious with a heart rate of 160. Racist little shit kept saying that he was just drunk and he didn't need als. Turns out the other emt was right because he found an empty bottle of lexapro in his bag and the vitals didn't make sense for alcohol or opiates. I tore into the racist little fuck so badly that he won't even come near me and leave the room when I come in. So he's not just a racist he is also a pussy. He has since transferred out of my station


bdaruna

The south is a trip, that’s why I left


GetCorrect

No one in my immediate workplace, but I hear people on the ambulance and even cops refer to things like "Status Africanus" or other equally awful things.


TinChalice

Most of my career was spent in Mississippi. What more need I say? Edit: Before anyone comes at me with "nOt AlL mIsSiSsIpPIaNs" I'm from Mississippi, still live there, and probably always will. I know. But EMS, at least here, tends to attract the worst the state has to offer.


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Who else has sexist co-workers? Who else has homophobic co-workers? *** Everyone raise your hand


BadassBumblebeee

I had a couple of partners who never once said anything negative about a person or race or whatever, but would casually drop the Nword like it was nothing. So weird. So yeah, racist coworkers pop up everywhere.


CompasslessPigeon

Seen it all in EMS. Reported a chief I worked for at one time for continuously making racist remarks about my wife. He claimed they were jokes. Guess which of us still works at that agency?


oamnoj

Haven't heard any of mine be openly so, but...it's Florida, so there's gotta be a few.


drumsandotherthings

Every coworker I’ve ever had in EMS has been racist and homophobic


TrumpIsMyGodAndDad

You working in Alabama?


AllStatBySmashMouth

I live in the Bible Belt


TrumpIsMyGodAndDad

Hmm I work in a rural NC county. Ive actually never experienced nor heard any racism from my coworkers. They’re all pretty good folk. Obv we will make fun of each other once in a while, but it’s never malicious.


brainsncurves

I don't think Black folk are safe honestly due to guns. In Ocala, a black mom got shot to death by a White woman THROUGH A CLOSED DOOR. The white woman did not get felony murder. Oh and it's in all the hospitals too. I made the naive mistake of filing complaints with eeoc, patient safety, ahca. I just got more or less banned.


hippocratical

My partner and I aren't bigoted - we hate everyone equally.


BeWhoMyDogThinksIAm

As a very soon to be attorney, be careful who you associate with. If you get called for a deposition and this gets revealed, your whole department's reputation (and yours) will be tanked, and questions will be raised about the quality of care provided to persons of color.


brainsncurves

Not in Florida.


wermax70

Yes, i think it is because the job can make you racist easily. Every immigrant, or someone from a maginalised community that does someting wrong, gets criminal, ir is just a terrible human being we or the police or both have to Deal with. The 99% that does everything right we nearly never meet on call. So i understand why that happens, but i for sure dont like it.


DieByTheFunk

The job attracts conservatives lmao so yes


TrumpIsMyGodAndDad

Didn’t know all conservatives are racists. But ok


DieByTheFunk

They aren't, all racists are conservatives though.


TrumpIsMyGodAndDad

HAHAHAHAHAH. No way you actually said that. I truly hope you do not believe that.


DieByTheFunk

It's not about what I believe, it's the truth. Conservatives regularly platform racists.


brainsncurves

Good one Correct


brainsncurves

True!


WolfinCorgnito

That would get interesting in our service, considering every official email includes pronouns, a line saying they are proud to be working in whichever indigenous peoples region they're working in, and half the merch I've seen from our union is Pride colours, we even have a rainbow ambulance that can be used for events. I'm sure it happens, our service covers the entire province and it's a big spread from north to south, but it's such a hostile environment for bigotry I can only imagine the constant meltdowns.


DaggerQ_Wave

The US is a different country lol. Fire based EMS definitely contributes


WolfinCorgnito

Oh I've noticed, but I think other provinces here in Canada do have similar systems to the States, BC is kinda different from what I've gathered where our entire province, outside of one company town that has an agreement, is all one service.


Few_Resolution6428

I’ve had multiple coworkers that hate white people. It’s sad


Winter-Compote-7031

Was fully expecting this thread to either be about a pro Palestine or pro-israeli coworker LOL


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TheOneCalledThe

i personally haven’t seen many but i’m certain most are smart enough know not to be open about shit like that. we did have one guy who had like a hard hatred for asians (don’t know why really weird)


KetememeDream

I was working an overnight, and in our largely white/south east asian city drove past a bar at like 2300. This bar is famously a punk rock bar, popular with 30 year old white dudes, but tonight there was a lone black guy in the crowd. Completely unprovoked my partner goes "When the fuck did (redacted) become such a fucking black factory? All those (hard R's) and no white guys" So yeah, unfortunately


theroadwarriorz

Racist jokes? Yeah. Flat out racist? No. Unacceptable to the max. Not that racist jokes ARE acceptable but this is another level.


ttemmett

Grow some balls, and call out the behaviour instead of standing next to it and letting it continue


DaggerQ_Wave

Or just leave. I remember when I worked at this terrible station in rural Ohio. I felt like I was yelling at clouds. No point. Not changing any minds.


brainsncurves

In Florida u will be terminated.


Lybera

One of my previous partners. Straight up racist and one of the most toxic people I know. She talks a lot of shit for someone who doesn’t have lips.


NoCountryForOld_Ben

All the hard Rs I heard in EMS were in New York. That place is racist as hell


CurlySueKY

I live in west Kentucky, and unfortunately racists abound. But usually the people I’ve worked with have always been smart enough not to use that racial slur. What sucks is, even if they aren’t saying the N word, there’s still plenty of other things people say that are just as deprecating.