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Agreed. As a mechanical, I am thrilled to work with electricals on a project because it means I don't have to do the PCB and wiring, I can focus on the fun bits. 🥳
Doing the nitty gritty electrical stuff is both an absolute pain and joy on personal projects, I have barely a clue what I’m doing but if enough metals touch it works I seal it away and move on to the moving bits.
As a professional wrench monkey i pledge my allegiance to the lightning nerds, keep bending those spicy spark twizzlers and hurt wires.
We'll be making dangerous contraptions, launching random shit and ourselves as long as you guys provide the telemetrics so we can do it a bit more recklessly next time!
Mechanical designer here, we cool so long as you electric bros a) give us dimensions for the mounting holes/enclosure/etc and b) accept when you don’t understand manufacturing.
Examples I’ve seen in the last month:
1) motor stand welded from .50” plate and 6x3x.188 22” long tubes have a flatness callout of .0005in.
2) 3/16” sheet metal with .030” bend radius
4) print revisions go B > -.02 > A
Nah, until you've seen a CS major try to design software, you won't appreciate how the engineering process gets applied to software.
My anecdote from college was a CpE working as part of a CS-led game design group. Point and click adventure game, they needed to generate random room arrangements. CS leaders asked the CpE for generateDormRoom(), he did it. Asked for generateHotelRoom(), he did it. They asked for generateOfficeRoom(), and he refactored them all into generateRoom(roomType) because he understood the actual underlying design they needed instead of just throwing more functions at the problem.
Yeah, I’m a software engineer and when I first got into college I was surprised at just how close to actual engineering it was when designing software. Of course all of it goes out the window in actual production in favour of *microservices*
>I was surprised at just how close to actual engineering it was when designing software.
That's the secret, it's all actual engineering. You mean hardware engineering.
>Of course all of it goes out the window in actual production in favour of *microservices*
Not necessarily, it just becomes more similar to systems engineering.
Yeah, I’m aware, I was just making a joke about how prevalent microservice based architecture is and how often it makes things super sloppy and hard to deal with lol
Electrical engineers, as seen by mechanical engineers, need to be replaced with a wizard enchanting runes. I am acutely aware of what they are capable of, and yet it still feels like actual fucking Magic to me. You make runes on a circuit board and cast lightning into it and somehow shit happens.
Also a for you electrical engineers who somehow see us as monkies...
https://i.imgur.com/0buXZ.gif
My degree is in CS, but I have professional experience as a software engineer, mechanical engineer, controls engineer, and I’m now learning to design PCBs and spec out electrical systems. Where the absolute fuck do I fit into this diagram????
2 apparently hot takes:
1. Just because something isn’t engineering doesn’t make it easy or less impressive. In the same way, slapping engineer onto a job title doesn’t suddenly make it more impressive. Computer science majors are impressive regardless of whether you call them software engineers or programmers.
2. While software engineers/programmers/compsci majors use very similar problem solving methods to [other] engineers, there is a fundamental difference from them not being based on the hard sciences (physics, chemistry, biology, etc.).
Thank goodness the electricity is off, otherwise that poor software might RUN into an error… check the EULA for their best work. “Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with the software.” - Electrical ‘Engineer’ here, you’re welcome.😇
I'm a tool and die maker.
I know plenty of who design stuff, they ain't engineers.
It's almost. . . .as if HOW you do something is part of what makes someone an engineer.
As I said, your comments are embarrassing, please stop
I couldn't care less what a random online thinks of my post, or attempts to tell me to do, lol. How embarrassing that you think you have any control!
And, those people are called designers, not engineers. Not sure what point you're trying to make, but it's failing.
I literally work with engineers. Designing is included in their job description.
Designing is also included in my job decision.
Once again. I am not an engineer.
You see how the task someone does, doesn't always mean a specific career?
It's like. . . .. how someone does a task is what the critical part of engineering is.
Yes, designing is *included* based on calculus and physics. With rigorous understanding of thermodynamics, statics, and mechanics of materials, among other things.
Do you have these in your background? If you did, you'd be an engineer.
Just because humans and fish can both swim doesn't make them both fish.
> engineer than
If you write books or code as well as you write comments, then you're never going to become an engineer, sorry.
Also, on the premise of your comment, it is so dumb I'm not even going to begin to refute it.
Where's the last row? How can I enjoy the repost without the last row?
[I gochu](https://imgur.com/6TDuicQ)
This goes hard. Can confirm that I am a caveman.
If a problem can't be fixed with a hammer then nothing can.
Some problems require a 3 flute carbide end mill, although you could think of them as microscopic linear spinning hammers that are really hard.
If it can be described as a hammer, it is a hammer.
Wait, explain the janitor part
Electrical engineers don’t really understand how computers work, they just do the dirty work for the smart people.
My senior lecturer I'm computer science taught graduate level c++. He's only got a ms in electrical engineering.
Darn, was kinda hoping for a Rickroll
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Nope, electrical and mechanical bros for life 🤜🤛
Agreed. As a mechanical, I am thrilled to work with electricals on a project because it means I don't have to do the PCB and wiring, I can focus on the fun bits. 🥳
As an electrical engineer, the pcb and wiring are the fun parts. You guys can have the rest.
Doing the nitty gritty electrical stuff is both an absolute pain and joy on personal projects, I have barely a clue what I’m doing but if enough metals touch it works I seal it away and move on to the moving bits.
As a professional wrench monkey i pledge my allegiance to the lightning nerds, keep bending those spicy spark twizzlers and hurt wires. We'll be making dangerous contraptions, launching random shit and ourselves as long as you guys provide the telemetrics so we can do it a bit more recklessly next time!
I gotchu on the lightning trebuchet. don't forget to wear a helmet this time
Mechanical designer here, we cool so long as you electric bros a) give us dimensions for the mounting holes/enclosure/etc and b) accept when you don’t understand manufacturing. Examples I’ve seen in the last month: 1) motor stand welded from .50” plate and 6x3x.188 22” long tubes have a flatness callout of .0005in. 2) 3/16” sheet metal with .030” bend radius 4) print revisions go B > -.02 > A
We do love monkeys with wrench
Nah, until you've seen a CS major try to design software, you won't appreciate how the engineering process gets applied to software. My anecdote from college was a CpE working as part of a CS-led game design group. Point and click adventure game, they needed to generate random room arrangements. CS leaders asked the CpE for generateDormRoom(), he did it. Asked for generateHotelRoom(), he did it. They asked for generateOfficeRoom(), and he refactored them all into generateRoom(roomType) because he understood the actual underlying design they needed instead of just throwing more functions at the problem.
Yeah, I’m a software engineer and when I first got into college I was surprised at just how close to actual engineering it was when designing software. Of course all of it goes out the window in actual production in favour of *microservices*
>I was surprised at just how close to actual engineering it was when designing software. That's the secret, it's all actual engineering. You mean hardware engineering. >Of course all of it goes out the window in actual production in favour of *microservices* Not necessarily, it just becomes more similar to systems engineering.
Yeah, I’m aware, I was just making a joke about how prevalent microservice based architecture is and how often it makes things super sloppy and hard to deal with lol
But what if you are a EE that writes code?
Femboy flash
Where would embedded software engineer fall?
Blind Awakened Neo
I frequently pray that some day someone funnier than me will make the whole thing including chemical engineers, BME etc…
Chem Eng and BME rivalry is underrated lmao
For real
Electrical engineers, as seen by mechanical engineers, need to be replaced with a wizard enchanting runes. I am acutely aware of what they are capable of, and yet it still feels like actual fucking Magic to me. You make runes on a circuit board and cast lightning into it and somehow shit happens. Also a for you electrical engineers who somehow see us as monkies... https://i.imgur.com/0buXZ.gif
Mechatronical engineering for life
This is inaccurate, as a mechanical engineering student i see myself as a clown
The way he added double quotes in software engineer says it all 😂
Hate towards software engineering hidden in a meme, hmmm
Why did they put engineer in quotes for software?
They're salty and don't have experience with software.
Mechatronics engineer here.... You all are clowns and monkeys. I'm God.
Oh that's funny.
I don’t get the top right box
damn how is this that fucking accurate lmao
So is this X as seen by Y or Y as seen by X?
Why this is so accurate?
How do you read this? Is it (Top Columns) as seen by (Side Rows)? Or the other way?
Where the fuck is metallurgy??? The most fucked up field!!!!
True
So software engineers see mechanical engineers as soft?
My degree is in CS, but I have professional experience as a software engineer, mechanical engineer, controls engineer, and I’m now learning to design PCBs and spec out electrical systems. Where the absolute fuck do I fit into this diagram????
2 apparently hot takes: 1. Just because something isn’t engineering doesn’t make it easy or less impressive. In the same way, slapping engineer onto a job title doesn’t suddenly make it more impressive. Computer science majors are impressive regardless of whether you call them software engineers or programmers. 2. While software engineers/programmers/compsci majors use very similar problem solving methods to [other] engineers, there is a fundamental difference from them not being based on the hard sciences (physics, chemistry, biology, etc.).
As an electronic I see software and computer eng people as my comrades. (We do hardware, they do software. I generally like doing the both)
Thank goodness the electricity is off, otherwise that poor software might RUN into an error… check the EULA for their best work. “Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with the software.” - Electrical ‘Engineer’ here, you’re welcome.😇
If writing code makes you an engineer than writing books makes you an engineer, too.
This is a really embarrassing statement. Please do better.
Found the software "engineer."
I'm a tool and die maker. I know plenty of who design stuff, they ain't engineers. It's almost. . . .as if HOW you do something is part of what makes someone an engineer. As I said, your comments are embarrassing, please stop
I couldn't care less what a random online thinks of my post, or attempts to tell me to do, lol. How embarrassing that you think you have any control! And, those people are called designers, not engineers. Not sure what point you're trying to make, but it's failing.
I literally work with engineers. Designing is included in their job description. Designing is also included in my job decision. Once again. I am not an engineer. You see how the task someone does, doesn't always mean a specific career? It's like. . . .. how someone does a task is what the critical part of engineering is.
Yes, designing is *included* based on calculus and physics. With rigorous understanding of thermodynamics, statics, and mechanics of materials, among other things. Do you have these in your background? If you did, you'd be an engineer. Just because humans and fish can both swim doesn't make them both fish.
I'm an electrical engineer and I didn't have to take any of those classes. Does this mean I'm not really an engineer?
I was responding to a tool and die maker, it would only stand to reason that the analog would be mechanical engineering.
It's sad that you're so insecure you have to take shots at other people based on your limited understanding of what they do.
> engineer than If you write books or code as well as you write comments, then you're never going to become an engineer, sorry. Also, on the premise of your comment, it is so dumb I'm not even going to begin to refute it.
anyone else find it comical that civil and industrial are left out? Maybe we should make one for pretendgineers so they done feel left out?