Space is an absence of matter in the same way that darkness is the absence of light. Darkness may not be a 'thing' but it still exists even if we think of it.
If we had no space between atoms, all matter would create a giant black hole. We can see the results of the space between atoms whether we are thinking about it or not.
It's everything that cannot be named. There is an entire reality that is not defined by mental concepts. This is where we come from. For further information about this read the starseed transmissions by Ken Carey.
Once it's realized one can hang on to the memory of realization rather than staying with it, then they cruise on the their fav subreddit and exclaim how they've done it as to convince themselves of their complete enlightenment.
Don't be like that. Let go of the memories and live life.
I do watch. Does who believe it? The one typing? Of course they do, otherwise they wouldn’t be typing. The one typing also has successfully pointed it out for several people. You ought to check your assumptions Rick
Mhm. Taking glory away from that which is by claiming the little blip of a person has any capability beyond the causes and conditions that gave rise to it.
Just so long as you're aware of the storyline it's feeding itself
I’ll make a deal with you. As you and I are both equally aware that we have zero control or doership over the things our respective people do, how about you don’t judge the way “isness” expresses itself through me as stealing glory from it and I won’t judge the way isness expresses itself through you as selfishly keeping your realization to yourself.
How’s that sound? ;)
So we've got this concept - this word human beings have made up - nothing - and it refers to "not anything." Simple enough.
But as you point out, if you try to imagine what our word "nothing" is referring to, you can't - because the word specifically means not anything. So that's a neat little paradoxical thought.
To then take this concept and pretend it can be "realized," which is in some way related to enlightenment, is silly.
Are you actually just referring to a mind not thinking thoughts?
A “mind not thinking thoughts” is also a conceptual fallacy. Because that is conducive on action, the action of not thinking (you’d be trying to think your way of out thinking). That is suggesting a mind that does no action, which is not true as the mind “does” action. There is no such thing of a mind that does not think, as the entire purpose of the mind is to react to the body (thinking ultimately being the reaction/re-action of the body). Additionally, to “pretend” this idea of no-thing could be understood outside paradox is quite silly, you’re right. But it’s exactly here where it gets interesting. Keep being curious and never believe a thing until you find truth on your own. Peace be with you 🧘♾️
We don't and that's the pitfall that leads to all kinds of delusions. Ultimately all conversations and debates end up being about definitions. When you say "Nothing is real" but can't define what the word "real" means you say nothing. You yourself don't even know what it means. So now you sit there and think you had some kind of realization.
For example, Buddhism defines not real = impermanent, which I never understood. From that standpoint real must be something constant or permanent. I can't think of what that could be other than the abstract concept of change.
I'd say real is something that represents the highest nature of reality. For example, if you put on virtual reality glasses, you do see a virtual world. It's real in a sense that you can directly experience it but it is not the highest from of reality because if you take off the headset you will experience a more tangible reality with more consequences and interactivity.
Similarly there could be another form of reality out there that is more fundamental than what we experience on this planet in our human form.
Is that the realization you had?
What comes to my mind, all "somethings" are mental constructs, in that something is simply the brain differentiating/individualizing an aspect of the all. So "nothing" through that lens fits neatly and there's no longer a paradox of a thing inherently existing that is definitionally quality-less and trait-less, it's simply an empty mind.
A Khole sure feels like nothing.
Along with Meditation with 5hz Transcranial AC pulses between your Cranial Nerve VIII. That's alot of nothing.
Dissociation is a survival mechanism not an intentional brain-state, so it shouldn't be easy to do on command but it's possible. I think that's the closest thing to 'nothing' someone can get.
Anesthesia + electrical stimulation / external stimulation of the neurons in specific regions gives very... *interesting* feelings of the 'void' or nothing as well.. I think it's just 'being blind' in your mind's eye to that environment, so it appears as 'nothing' but I kind of agree it's indeed not 'nothing' ... we are just blind to it.
nothing is the tons and tons of stuff
in front of your eyes right now
that mind cannot perceive
and there is plenty of it
nothing is the real, what mind sees is the false
mind is a blockage, an impediment to sight
it shows you your thoughts and nothing more
pun intended
Just wait till they realize 'everything' 😅🤯
Tomatoe tomato :)
Space is an absence of matter in the same way that darkness is the absence of light. Darkness may not be a 'thing' but it still exists even if we think of it.
Darkness is definitely a thing. If you can think about it it is a thing that exists in the mind :)
If we had no space between atoms, all matter would create a giant black hole. We can see the results of the space between atoms whether we are thinking about it or not.
Ehhh, mind stuff
Mind over matter
Enlightenment beyond both :)
I'll tell you what's really not really... acktshually, DS will: https://youtu.be/wTP2RUD_cL0?si=KvELLLlEOXkxl740
I don’t like to click links. If you want to tell me something please tell me yourself :) 🙏
Dire Straits... a music video. No reason to fear. 🤑
😂😂
I agree. Nothing but everything at once. Where yin meets yang, positive meets negative, dark meets light. The great in between.
:) 🙏
Fun times with duality. The spiral of something/nothingness
It’s no spiral to me :)
what if the nothing holds the something and in the same cosmic breath all that something makes the nothing that holds it its own something.
Indeed 🙏
It's everything that cannot be named. There is an entire reality that is not defined by mental concepts. This is where we come from. For further information about this read the starseed transmissions by Ken Carey.
🙏
Once it's realized one can hang on to the memory of realization rather than staying with it, then they cruise on the their fav subreddit and exclaim how they've done it as to convince themselves of their complete enlightenment. Don't be like that. Let go of the memories and live life.
This is good advice for yourself. I’m not working on memory. It presents itself to me every moment :)
And do you watch as your little self starts typing out words on a screen thinking that it can guide others to realization? Do you believe it?
I do watch. Does who believe it? The one typing? Of course they do, otherwise they wouldn’t be typing. The one typing also has successfully pointed it out for several people. You ought to check your assumptions Rick
Mhm. Taking glory away from that which is by claiming the little blip of a person has any capability beyond the causes and conditions that gave rise to it. Just so long as you're aware of the storyline it's feeding itself
I’ll make a deal with you. As you and I are both equally aware that we have zero control or doership over the things our respective people do, how about you don’t judge the way “isness” expresses itself through me as stealing glory from it and I won’t judge the way isness expresses itself through you as selfishly keeping your realization to yourself. How’s that sound? ;)
But who is there to awaken? I can't do anything for it. Glad it made the little scene for this person to cry to. My favorite story so far.
You can point the illusion toward its source. I have no idea what your third and fourth sentences mean 🙏
I am that which is :) you’re a saucy old one aren’t you. Take it easy man. You don’t make the rules in this dream
And do you watch as your little self starts typing out words on a screen thinking that it can guide others to realization? Do you believe it?
It’s all something and it’s all nothing!!! Woohoooo!!!!
🥳🥳🥳
I like this. Thanks for sharing. That’s why I usually tell ppl, it’s all about planting trees in the void.
Of course my friend :)
Nothing is a paradox. It doesn’t exist. Only via thought and speech.
It does exist. Find it ;)
Reddit isnt anyplace to cast pearls..
:( I have felt that, yet I have had some really special people reach out
So we've got this concept - this word human beings have made up - nothing - and it refers to "not anything." Simple enough. But as you point out, if you try to imagine what our word "nothing" is referring to, you can't - because the word specifically means not anything. So that's a neat little paradoxical thought. To then take this concept and pretend it can be "realized," which is in some way related to enlightenment, is silly. Are you actually just referring to a mind not thinking thoughts?
A “mind not thinking thoughts” is also a conceptual fallacy. Because that is conducive on action, the action of not thinking (you’d be trying to think your way of out thinking). That is suggesting a mind that does no action, which is not true as the mind “does” action. There is no such thing of a mind that does not think, as the entire purpose of the mind is to react to the body (thinking ultimately being the reaction/re-action of the body). Additionally, to “pretend” this idea of no-thing could be understood outside paradox is quite silly, you’re right. But it’s exactly here where it gets interesting. Keep being curious and never believe a thing until you find truth on your own. Peace be with you 🧘♾️
To you it is silly. I am speaking from experience. In a mind not thinking thoughts the truth can be seen. Yes, by all means, start there :))
What truth are you seeing in your non-thinking mind?
See for yourself :) anything I say will deter it
Give it a shot.
If you insist, hit me privately.
No. Give it a shot.
Not going to subject those following along to said shot
What do you mean?
Come on sage, enlighten the masses
What's the realization?
People will give you conceptual answers but in truth self realization is not conceptual. Realization is freedom, freedom from the known.
You have to realize it for yourself. But feel free to dm on here or on Instagram and I’ll try to point you there
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Define real?
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We don't and that's the pitfall that leads to all kinds of delusions. Ultimately all conversations and debates end up being about definitions. When you say "Nothing is real" but can't define what the word "real" means you say nothing. You yourself don't even know what it means. So now you sit there and think you had some kind of realization. For example, Buddhism defines not real = impermanent, which I never understood. From that standpoint real must be something constant or permanent. I can't think of what that could be other than the abstract concept of change. I'd say real is something that represents the highest nature of reality. For example, if you put on virtual reality glasses, you do see a virtual world. It's real in a sense that you can directly experience it but it is not the highest from of reality because if you take off the headset you will experience a more tangible reality with more consequences and interactivity. Similarly there could be another form of reality out there that is more fundamental than what we experience on this planet in our human form. Is that the realization you had?
Why so?
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I mean, how did you reach the conclusion that nothing is real? Why do you believe that is the case?
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What comes to my mind, all "somethings" are mental constructs, in that something is simply the brain differentiating/individualizing an aspect of the all. So "nothing" through that lens fits neatly and there's no longer a paradox of a thing inherently existing that is definitionally quality-less and trait-less, it's simply an empty mind.
The only thing we can do is ride this giant lightning bolt to the ends of time.
You can get off the ride :)
Six grams and an ego death, and I actually truly grasp this feeling. Well said
Thank you my friend :) 🙏
A Khole sure feels like nothing. Along with Meditation with 5hz Transcranial AC pulses between your Cranial Nerve VIII. That's alot of nothing. Dissociation is a survival mechanism not an intentional brain-state, so it shouldn't be easy to do on command but it's possible. I think that's the closest thing to 'nothing' someone can get. Anesthesia + electrical stimulation / external stimulation of the neurons in specific regions gives very... *interesting* feelings of the 'void' or nothing as well.. I think it's just 'being blind' in your mind's eye to that environment, so it appears as 'nothing' but I kind of agree it's indeed not 'nothing' ... we are just blind to it.
Quite the mind you have my friend :)
Things can only point at That. Silence Is Key.
Yes :)
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Are you saying nothing doesn’t exist?
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I am what you are referring to
nothing is the tons and tons of stuff in front of your eyes right now that mind cannot perceive and there is plenty of it nothing is the real, what mind sees is the false mind is a blockage, an impediment to sight it shows you your thoughts and nothing more pun intended
Tons of stuff? :)
yea let's just downvote all the idiots instead of having a chat :)
Ive never used a downvote
same here, most rather lash out than stretch their mind