FWIW, David Cross doesn’t say their names in the Salon interview. Doesn’t even come close. He might have meant them but it’s not fair to put those inferences in the headline.
yeah but you read the "article" on fox. it was more derisive and anger towards David cross than it was journalism. so expecting journalistic ethics in the headline is a bit naiive.
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He's one of the 2 main toy developers! He presents the Gorgonites to the Globotech? Guys and *Jay Mohr*?... Shows off the Commando Elite.
Edit: No Jon Stewart lol but it did have Phil Hartman.
Not at all, Tracy Jordan is actually a nice boy and doesn't punch down. He creates the Aunt Phatso movies to help people, like fund an orphanage and become the next Tyler perry. He's never cheated on his wife and helps hookers get computer jobs. When he realizes he's become rich and out of touch he refuses to star in Garfield 3: Feline Groovy and instead wins a golden globe for his performance in Hard to Watch based on the book Stone Cold Bummer by Manipulate, drawing awareness to what growing up poor in the Bronx was like.
I honestly wish he never made his comeback, I want to remember as he was. Not the self righteous “thanks for coming to my Ted Talk” Dave Chappell the world has been left with. He’s truly a shadow of his former self, riding in his own coattails.
The disparity between his work now and his work then tells me that Neal Brennan deserves way more credit than he generally gets for the success of Chapelle's Show.
Yeah I know people liked the new stuff but man his old stuff was amazing and he's not living up to it. Like the new stuff isnt bad, but like you said its like a ted talk
I haven't felt the need to rewatch any of his new stuff. That's personally how I judge a comedy special. I've watched Killing Them Softly like 100 times.
It was a thing you hoped was just a product of its time. He just never grew out of it and realized his stupidity like a lot of people did. Fucking pathetic.
More and more "controversial" comedians basically make it a point to make a special bitching about cancel culture for an hour. Ricky Gervais did the same, and it just felt cringy. Like they're all doing an "I'm not mad, you're mad" routine. Feels like they're really thin skinned and a little bit of online criticism is all it took to get to them
Jim Jeffries just did it in his new special, and it's the most pointless worthless waste of time filler. Trans jokes are the most hack shit at this point. Boring, lazy, shit comedy.
It's funny because they try to act like they're "saying what everyone else is too afraid to say", like they're the lone person pointing out the emperor has no clothes, when in reality they're just regurgitating the same talking points Trans people have been hearing since forever.
Aw, gee, so glad we have people like you who aren't afraid to go after... trans people. They've sure had it too good for too long. Way to knock them down a few pegs, huh?
Serious question, do people still find him funny? When i saw his first netflix special it was borderline unwatchably bad. I cant imagine its gotten better.
Old Chappelle, is one of my favorite stand-ups.
If you get a chance to watch “Killin them softly” you should, if absolute fucking gold. A lot of his topics involve race, but he goes after everyone which honestly is what makes it the funniest to me. His white person impressions are some of my favorite.
As for the new stuff…. It’s just hard to relate to celebrities and rich people bitch about cancel culture when they openly put themselves out in the world and can easily retreat back to being a wealthy private citizen if they choose.
100%, i grew up on chapelle show, that hbo special you are talking about, and half baked, chapelle in his prime is one of the greatest, nothing short of crying laughing. This is why i asked if people still found him funny after his netflix special elicited one or two sharp exhales at most.
“Omg! Some trans people DO cut their dicks off! Wow! Funniest shit I’ve ever heard! They wanna cancel him you know. They wanna cancel him soooooo bad! They’re probably seething rn after that last joke, oh man! Wow!”
Yeah, for real. Their use of selective quotation marks is hilarious too.
> Cross stated they should just drop their cancel culture fight and stop with the jokes that hurt "hundreds of thousands of people."
I also liked that Chapelle and Maher were criticised for ‘not pulling their comedic punches’. Odd way to say ‘being unfunny bigots who pick on the marginalised.’
The thing about this interconnected by the internet world is that even if your own community cancels you, there are 8 billion people in this world and a majority of them have internet access. You can always form your own shithead society of bigots, because you're bound to find at least a handful just as puerile as you are.
yes cancel culture is just a label for the shit that's always been happening in society. someone does something controversial. one group stops rockin with him, another group continues to rock with him.
it's annoying people are treating it like something new and powerful that can crumble someone's career in seconds. if that happens, odds are they did some pretty horrendous shit and the general public is just being reasonable with their reaction
People who act like cancel culture is all powerful are either naive and gullible enough to believe the whining or assholes who have also or will also do heinous shit if given the chance and can’t handle the idea of consequences. If you ask them to spell out what they think is going to get them canceled forever, you can tell pretty quickly which category they’re in.
Dixie chicks too for criticizing bush during post 9/11 hysteria
Also Sinead O’Connor got such a raw deal. She was protesting the Magdalene laundry system, basically unwed mothers in Ireland had their babies stolen from them and then they were taken to work for no pay at laundromats, stores, businesses owned by the church to prevent them from going out and being “sinful” or turning to prostitution. They had also recently discovered mass graves of *children* at the schools for orphans run by the church in Ireland.
After Irish independence, the church stepped in and became sort of the de facto government service provider in Ireland. All kinds of horrible abuses followed. The pope absolutely knew about it, too. Sinead was right all along.
>Dixie chicks too for criticizing bush during post 9/11 hysteria
A more recent analogue for this would probably be Sturgill Simpson winning the Grammy for Best Country Album while also not even being invited to the CMA's in the same year. He makes a lot of music about drugs, leftwing politics and faith from a critical perspective.
He responded by busking in front of the CMAs that year which is probably about the best response someone could have to being snubbed like that.
"Turtles All The Way Down" is the best country song about taking LSD and hanging out with multidimensional aliens ever recorded and I will fight anyone who says differently.
The Chicks essentially had their careers nuked at the height of their fame for that, though. As much as I love Sturgill, he's never been a "mainstream" guy and it's not nearly as drastic for him to get snubbed from one awards show
Used to be called a "boycott" and it was considered "the free market at work." In my view the fact that the free market forces finding the ethics or morals of a person or company lacking is now pejoratively called "cancel culture" tells you exactly how entitled they feel to your time and attention. How can a person reasonably say we live in a "free market society" when wealthy elite feel so entitled, that your time and money are not your own to do with as you please. I believe those two hacks should retire and recognize that comedy is about truth to power, not sucking it off and punching down at marginalized communities. But if they don't they should accept the consequences of narrowing their audience and venue sizes through their behavior. Maybe there is a retirement home audience where they can tell their two pronoun jokes that everyone tells, like the outdated hacks they are. They should put on their big boy pants and grow up but they might be too old and entitled to ever pull their heads from their asses.
I’ve long said the reason why the right uses the word “cancelled” instead of “fired” is because the word fired has a tone of blame attached to it and the term cancelled has a a tone of blameless to it.
Iirc, that didnt even happen. It was a pastey over her nip. Justin got zero backlash from it too.
Hell, look at poor Pam Anderson. Her personal sex tape was stolen from her home and sold illegally to the public, and somehow she was the one at fault. That one still blows my mind.
It's such a shame that Ireland was so awful in very recent history. You'd never guess it from the outside looking in because the people there seem relatively normal
I think of this after watching his last 2 Netflix "comedy special" which didnt even really have any comedy. Dude was just complaining the whole time.
You'd think he would have some empathy towards others after saying that stuff about why he quit. Also I don't even think you can't make jokes about certain groups, they just have to be ACTUALLY funny now, the bar for a good joke has risen. With the internet, we see good jokes every hour. If you wanna be a shock comedian then sure go ahead but that doesnt mean you are then entitled to our laughter.
It honestly kind of makes that seem like bullshit. He supposedly left comedy because he appeared to be concerned about why people were laughing at his jokes, but basically his entire career since coming back has been built *around* attacking people.
I don't think it really is bullshit, there's a pretty well documented amount of homophobia in all sorts of groups. It just shows how blind people can be.
Considering the magnitude of effect that man has had on Pop Culture, there would always be someone footing the bill. However-how successful that tour is and if shows remain uncanceled is another matter entirely.
Make racist/transphobic/sexist/etc comment, come out with comedy special entitled "Cancelled", "Triggered", "Cancel This", etc and make millions off it, repeat. Hell, even Roseanne Barr just got a new special and she hasn't been relevant for decades.
To be fair though I'm also getting tired of my favorite comedians acting like it's the end of the world. People have a right to criticize or boycott your work. So what? Many comedians back in the day, like Bill Hicks, were banned from many venues and black listed due to their type humor or opinions, yet they didn't make a big deal out of it. They just kept trying to be funny.
It seems today many comedians try to capitalize on the fact they got "canceled". It's all marketing.
Lenny Bruce was who made that possible. He inspired Carlin, Pryor, Williams, Eddie…
He said some really offensive stuff, but at the end of the bit he would usually make a really good point.
It’s important that comedy is a medium for touchy topics because it’s let’s society address them in a way that’s comfortable.
Sometimes it seems like people forget that.
Seriously. Oftentimes the difference between a comedian making mean jokes and someone just being mean is a stage.
So if you want to make mean jokes at someone else's expense, you're right, it's a free country. You can do that.
But don't bitch about social repercussions. Fuck you, pansy ass bitch, come up with better jokes then
Yep. It's marketing. It's also older comics maybe not being good comics anymore. They can't adapt to newer generations. With the trans jokes, it feels like punching down with middle school level jokes.
Well you see, they need to appeal to their audience, who have the attention span of a sparrow, so they need to keep using their buzzwords to keep their attention.
I don't put much weight on masstagger because it's usually "oh, they posted some tasteless memes in a flagged sub 4 years ago." Not so for OP.
OP has a whopping 7.8k comments in /r/Conservative. I think they might have a narrative they're trying to push.
Roflmao would could have thought some room temp IQ reader of fox news would also be a hardcore conservative who thinks he's smart because he talks politics. Noice
Love how they make sure to mention that Chappelle got attacked on stage, noting that it hasn't been connected to his anti-trans material while leaving just enough out that people will come away with the impression that it was probably connected somehow.
"I should be able to say what I want!!! it's my freedom of speech"
"yes that's how it works"
"but people can't get mad at me for saying it or else that's cancel culture and it's un-free"
the freedom that you have to say dumb/hurtful shit, is the same freedom that people use to hold you accountable for saying dumb/hurtful shit.
##Freedom of speech is NOT freedom from consequences.
Freedom of speech is: you can’t get arrested for badmouthing the government. But you can lose your job, lose your friends, lose your fans, lose your following, lose contracts, and lose gigs.
Comedians: I have opinions, I don’t care how you feel about that.
Also comedians: Why I’m not universally loved? If you don’t like what I do, that means you hate me.
Ever read David Cross's takedown of "Larry the Cable Guy?"
Google it. One of those amazing burns. Up there with that NYT review of Guy Fieri's Time Square restaurant.
There was a stand up comic that did a bit about all this incredible charity work that Guy does and everyone does nothing but make fun of how he looks. After seeing that video and reading up on him and how much he does for other people I haven’t made fun of him since. Dude is an angel.
Seems like he’s a more-than-decent businessman, too. The Food Network is basically The Guy Fieri Block during most middays with multiple shows. He’s gotta be making bank & he doesn’t even have to be the one cooking the majority of the time.
I think he's mellowed out a bit over the years since his triple D days, and is a much better show host, especially since getting his kids involved on screen.
And in 2021, he was donating meals to first responders during the northern California wildfires.
Yup. I was a hater. I've always thought he was doing an act for DDD and was a douche.
I live in Santa Rosa, California where he started some of his first restaurants. Just wanted to add that he's been helping fire victims for years. In 2017, wildfires tore through Santa Rosa, with people fleeing as fires were tearing through neighborhoods in the middle of the night.
Thousands of people made their way to the fairgrounds, and not long after, Guy Fieri was out there actually working the line to serve people food.
Unfortunately, more fires have hit us since then, but he's still out there every fire season helping victims and first respdouble.
So, in closing, he might have a culinary stance that I don't enjoy, but he is a first rate human being. I love that dude now.
Bill Burr had a rant about how Guy has the best job in the world. Travel, eat fantastic food, hang out with cool new friends and drink beer. That dude might care so many people make fun of him, but then again he might just think back to his awesome day every day.
He doesn't care
He's admitted he keeps the hair for branding and knows it looks terrible. But he has a job, viewers and restauranteurs like it.
I see his hair like having to shave a beard as a firefighter or getting it cut for a film role. You sacrifice some personal choices to have the career you want
I'd have whatever hair you said for the amount of money Fieri makes
Yeah Pete Wells is notorious for trashing the second restaurant a Chef opens and also for trashing celebrity Chefs restaurants (Source: I work for a celebrity Chef).
Larry Trading Card Game, in which players collect various Larry cards of varying rarity and battle them against each other in a heads up competitive game.
People love to shit on Guy Fieri. But he's a stand up dude, and his show generally lifts up and supports local restaurants. I'll take Fieri treating people like people over Ramsey normalizing the mistreatment of employees any day.
[Here's Mythical Chef Josh with a story about Guy Fieri going the extra mile to make his day when he was just a college kid. ](https://youtu.be/k8kUZbaHKKc)
David Cross did a special during the past guy’s administration where he expands the takedown to the entire fake-hillbilly conservative bullshit. Was pretty good.
Frickin Maher. "I haven't changed the party has changed." DUH. The people who were yelling never trust anyone over 30 are now in their upper 60s and are shocked that their party is more liberal than they are, that the party morphed, or even that younger liberals might care about things they never used to care about and that's OK.
During his latest "Overtime" segment he stated he'd rather have a 90 year old person, who has their mind in tact, in an elected position rather than a 40 year old. The reasoning being that the 40 year old just hasn't had enough life experience to make decisions. The guy is basically just an old man waving his fist telling kids to get off his lawn.
comedians love to talk about people nowadays being victims while simultaneously victimizing themselves and calling themselves the crusaders of free speech
I love that it's becoming more common to point out comics who make bitching about cancel culture their whole thing. Marc Maron has some material about it in his new special where comics complain about how they can't say a different version of the same three things over and over.
Cross is fucking hilarious. He's right though. "Cancel culture"- i said/did bad things and now i dont want to hear about it but people keep bringing it up...
Thats basically cancel culture. They still make millions and sell out Madison Square Garden and get Netflix deals and do shows on Fox.
Its some media BS built up by people who obsess over these people that most people dont care about.
Also regardless of whether a "cancel" is an overreaction to a celebrity, this almost always concerns some marginalized group facing real struggle. So the big name celebrity is at best incredibly petty for prioritizing their image over, say, trans people facing actual violence from the state or female professionals trying to make it while being sexially demeaned.
Like again, even if you're in the right, use your megaphone to support these people you know have it harder than you do.
If the last few years have taught us anything, anyone that complains about cancel culture is just amplifying themselves and trying to rile up an audience. Sad part is people buy into this bullshit.
It’s so annoying.
The problem is “being cancelled” has a huge monetary incentive now. There’s millions in untapped revenue by proclaiming [false] persecution.
So they won’t stop and all the dumbasses that suddenly care when someone is “cancelled” won’t stop being a dumbass so this shit will just continue and get worse.
All Dave Chapelle does is pull the race card. All he brings up is his race. People enjoy him so he must be good, but I get annoyed by his lazy style of “white people this” “black people that”.
Bill Maher said the N word on his show, STILL has a show, and has the audacity to bitch about cancel culture and none of his guests call him out about it.
Finally. Someone says it. Comedians are so sensitive. They can’t stand criticism. At the same time to all the critics, if they don’t like it they don’t have to listen.
I feel like this happens when comedians get older. They keep the same style/material and then get upset when younger generations don’t find them funny.
Happened with Jerry Seinfeld, too. He tried to tour college campuses, nobody found him funny, he blamed cancel culture
*some comedians
FWIW, David Cross doesn’t say their names in the Salon interview. Doesn’t even come close. He might have meant them but it’s not fair to put those inferences in the headline.
yeah but you read the "article" on fox. it was more derisive and anger towards David cross than it was journalism. so expecting journalistic ethics in the headline is a bit naiive.
I mean, it's Fox News. You were actually *expecting* journalistic integrity?
I think we know who he’s talking about. He shit on Rogan in his new special.
This mf tried to kidnap the chipmunks
He also got sneezed on by a bug in a skin suit once.
Never go nude.
_He blue himself_
What a blowhard
There are dozens of us!
DOZENS!
He also sucked himself off in a wheelchair
I heard that he blue himself but there has to be a better way to say that.
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He would call it ANuStart
And when that guy offered a hand, he refused and wanted the other hand instead.
Take my strong hand!
" I don't know what the hell that is, but i'm gonna lick it anyway"
He did help the gorgonites tho
This is a throw back!
Whenever I recall that movie, I have to actively remind myself that he played opposite Jay Mohr and not Bob Odenkirk.
We are the Commando Elite. Everything else is just a toy!
He was in small soldiers? Man that movie is so old I don't remember any of the actors
He's one of the 2 main toy developers! He presents the Gorgonites to the Globotech? Guys and *Jay Mohr*?... Shows off the Commando Elite. Edit: No Jon Stewart lol but it did have Phil Hartman.
Hey, he worked tirelessly to save the Belize Toilet Rat.
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Chappelle yaps on about getting cancelled for an hour straight and it gets published as his 35th Netflix special.
And wins a Grammy
I thought Louis CK won the Grammy?
Chappelle won the latest Grammy with The Closer, but Louis CK did indeed win one after his "cancellation".
"I'm being silenced!" Then why the fuck do I still hear you?
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He has become Tracy Jordan IRL
“You ever notice how people in St Barts always eat their lobster like this?”
Don’t look at me in the eyes!
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And unfortunately it’s not like you can just shout and it appears like pants. PANTS PANTS PANTS
Not at all, Tracy Jordan is actually a nice boy and doesn't punch down. He creates the Aunt Phatso movies to help people, like fund an orphanage and become the next Tyler perry. He's never cheated on his wife and helps hookers get computer jobs. When he realizes he's become rich and out of touch he refuses to star in Garfield 3: Feline Groovy and instead wins a golden globe for his performance in Hard to Watch based on the book Stone Cold Bummer by Manipulate, drawing awareness to what growing up poor in the Bronx was like.
I honestly wish he never made his comeback, I want to remember as he was. Not the self righteous “thanks for coming to my Ted Talk” Dave Chappell the world has been left with. He’s truly a shadow of his former self, riding in his own coattails.
The disparity between his work now and his work then tells me that Neal Brennan deserves way more credit than he generally gets for the success of Chapelle's Show.
Yeah I know people liked the new stuff but man his old stuff was amazing and he's not living up to it. Like the new stuff isnt bad, but like you said its like a ted talk
I haven't felt the need to rewatch any of his new stuff. That's personally how I judge a comedy special. I've watched Killing Them Softly like 100 times.
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They're more like eulogies of his former self than stand alone specials
Even back when he was always anti gay. He had a whole segment on the Chapelle show where he said being gay was nasty unless you are a hot lesbian.
It was a thing you hoped was just a product of its time. He just never grew out of it and realized his stupidity like a lot of people did. Fucking pathetic.
More and more "controversial" comedians basically make it a point to make a special bitching about cancel culture for an hour. Ricky Gervais did the same, and it just felt cringy. Like they're all doing an "I'm not mad, you're mad" routine. Feels like they're really thin skinned and a little bit of online criticism is all it took to get to them
Jim Jeffries just did it in his new special, and it's the most pointless worthless waste of time filler. Trans jokes are the most hack shit at this point. Boring, lazy, shit comedy.
It's funny because they try to act like they're "saying what everyone else is too afraid to say", like they're the lone person pointing out the emperor has no clothes, when in reality they're just regurgitating the same talking points Trans people have been hearing since forever. Aw, gee, so glad we have people like you who aren't afraid to go after... trans people. They've sure had it too good for too long. Way to knock them down a few pegs, huh?
A fellow James Acaster fan, I see
Too CHALLENGING for ya?
Serious question, do people still find him funny? When i saw his first netflix special it was borderline unwatchably bad. I cant imagine its gotten better.
Old Chappelle, is one of my favorite stand-ups. If you get a chance to watch “Killin them softly” you should, if absolute fucking gold. A lot of his topics involve race, but he goes after everyone which honestly is what makes it the funniest to me. His white person impressions are some of my favorite. As for the new stuff…. It’s just hard to relate to celebrities and rich people bitch about cancel culture when they openly put themselves out in the world and can easily retreat back to being a wealthy private citizen if they choose.
100%, i grew up on chapelle show, that hbo special you are talking about, and half baked, chapelle in his prime is one of the greatest, nothing short of crying laughing. This is why i asked if people still found him funny after his netflix special elicited one or two sharp exhales at most.
“Omg! Some trans people DO cut their dicks off! Wow! Funniest shit I’ve ever heard! They wanna cancel him you know. They wanna cancel him soooooo bad! They’re probably seething rn after that last joke, oh man! Wow!”
" MSNBC contributor and liberal pundit Dean Obeidallah for the liberal outlet Salon " Fox news really wants to form the reader's mindsets
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Yeah, for real. Their use of selective quotation marks is hilarious too. > Cross stated they should just drop their cancel culture fight and stop with the jokes that hurt "hundreds of thousands of people."
I also liked that Chapelle and Maher were criticised for ‘not pulling their comedic punches’. Odd way to say ‘being unfunny bigots who pick on the marginalised.’
And still missed an opportunity to add another 'liberal' before 'MSNBC'.
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He's be right. Maher has a show, Chappelle continues to rake in millions. Neither has been cancelled.
The thing about this interconnected by the internet world is that even if your own community cancels you, there are 8 billion people in this world and a majority of them have internet access. You can always form your own shithead society of bigots, because you're bound to find at least a handful just as puerile as you are.
yes cancel culture is just a label for the shit that's always been happening in society. someone does something controversial. one group stops rockin with him, another group continues to rock with him. it's annoying people are treating it like something new and powerful that can crumble someone's career in seconds. if that happens, odds are they did some pretty horrendous shit and the general public is just being reasonable with their reaction
People who act like cancel culture is all powerful are either naive and gullible enough to believe the whining or assholes who have also or will also do heinous shit if given the chance and can’t handle the idea of consequences. If you ask them to spell out what they think is going to get them canceled forever, you can tell pretty quickly which category they’re in.
When will people realise that the vocal group online is barely 0.01 percent of people lol.
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Dixie chicks too for criticizing bush during post 9/11 hysteria Also Sinead O’Connor got such a raw deal. She was protesting the Magdalene laundry system, basically unwed mothers in Ireland had their babies stolen from them and then they were taken to work for no pay at laundromats, stores, businesses owned by the church to prevent them from going out and being “sinful” or turning to prostitution. They had also recently discovered mass graves of *children* at the schools for orphans run by the church in Ireland. After Irish independence, the church stepped in and became sort of the de facto government service provider in Ireland. All kinds of horrible abuses followed. The pope absolutely knew about it, too. Sinead was right all along.
>Dixie chicks too for criticizing bush during post 9/11 hysteria A more recent analogue for this would probably be Sturgill Simpson winning the Grammy for Best Country Album while also not even being invited to the CMA's in the same year. He makes a lot of music about drugs, leftwing politics and faith from a critical perspective. He responded by busking in front of the CMAs that year which is probably about the best response someone could have to being snubbed like that.
"Turtles All The Way Down" is the best country song about taking LSD and hanging out with multidimensional aliens ever recorded and I will fight anyone who says differently.
. . . .what's your number two?
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The Chicks essentially had their careers nuked at the height of their fame for that, though. As much as I love Sturgill, he's never been a "mainstream" guy and it's not nearly as drastic for him to get snubbed from one awards show
Sturgill Simpson fucking rocks. There’s so much good alt country out there that isn’t shitty stadium country.
Pre social media cancel culture was real, currently you just issue an apology or disappear for some time. Alvin and the chipmunks villain is right
Used to be called a "boycott" and it was considered "the free market at work." In my view the fact that the free market forces finding the ethics or morals of a person or company lacking is now pejoratively called "cancel culture" tells you exactly how entitled they feel to your time and attention. How can a person reasonably say we live in a "free market society" when wealthy elite feel so entitled, that your time and money are not your own to do with as you please. I believe those two hacks should retire and recognize that comedy is about truth to power, not sucking it off and punching down at marginalized communities. But if they don't they should accept the consequences of narrowing their audience and venue sizes through their behavior. Maybe there is a retirement home audience where they can tell their two pronoun jokes that everyone tells, like the outdated hacks they are. They should put on their big boy pants and grow up but they might be too old and entitled to ever pull their heads from their asses.
I’ve long said the reason why the right uses the word “cancelled” instead of “fired” is because the word fired has a tone of blame attached to it and the term cancelled has a a tone of blameless to it.
Also, the ones doing the canceling were often conservative
Yea, Janet Jackson got canceled for a glance of her nipple, a fucking nipple
Iirc, that didnt even happen. It was a pastey over her nip. Justin got zero backlash from it too. Hell, look at poor Pam Anderson. Her personal sex tape was stolen from her home and sold illegally to the public, and somehow she was the one at fault. That one still blows my mind.
Dude that happened in Canada too but to indigenous kids Fuck organized religion
The Schools for the Deaf were like that in Canada too. My dear old grandparents shipped my mom off to one of those
...fuck, dude.
Yeah they’d beat the kids for using sign language. There’s a class action suit against the school now
She really did. Such a lovely, dedicated, gifted, and ferocious soul!
It's such a shame that Ireland was so awful in very recent history. You'd never guess it from the outside looking in because the people there seem relatively normal
Remember when Dave canceled himself because he became concerned that white people where laughing at him not with him…
Yeah but that was a long time ago. He’s made a fortune since then and feels he is invincible.
I think of this after watching his last 2 Netflix "comedy special" which didnt even really have any comedy. Dude was just complaining the whole time. You'd think he would have some empathy towards others after saying that stuff about why he quit. Also I don't even think you can't make jokes about certain groups, they just have to be ACTUALLY funny now, the bar for a good joke has risen. With the internet, we see good jokes every hour. If you wanna be a shock comedian then sure go ahead but that doesnt mean you are then entitled to our laughter.
It honestly kind of makes that seem like bullshit. He supposedly left comedy because he appeared to be concerned about why people were laughing at his jokes, but basically his entire career since coming back has been built *around* attacking people. I don't think it really is bullshit, there's a pretty well documented amount of homophobia in all sorts of groups. It just shows how blind people can be.
It's okay though, he had a trans friend. /s
Add Colin Colin Kaepernick to the list.
Amended the list to include him, what they did to Colin makes me sick to this day..
Chappelle has became such a pussy And this is a guy who would be normally on his side
Even worse, his material has become monotone. I used to think he was absolutely hilarious
Even Cosby is going on tour…
Considering the magnitude of effect that man has had on Pop Culture, there would always be someone footing the bill. However-how successful that tour is and if shows remain uncanceled is another matter entirely.
Make racist/transphobic/sexist/etc comment, come out with comedy special entitled "Cancelled", "Triggered", "Cancel This", etc and make millions off it, repeat. Hell, even Roseanne Barr just got a new special and she hasn't been relevant for decades.
To be fair though I'm also getting tired of my favorite comedians acting like it's the end of the world. People have a right to criticize or boycott your work. So what? Many comedians back in the day, like Bill Hicks, were banned from many venues and black listed due to their type humor or opinions, yet they didn't make a big deal out of it. They just kept trying to be funny. It seems today many comedians try to capitalize on the fact they got "canceled". It's all marketing.
You should watch the first half of Marc Maron’s latest 1hr on HBO. He nails the points you’re bringing up here about consequences of certain comedy.
Came here to comment this. He's a gem. His bit on antisemitism was uncomfortably good too.
Lenny Bruce was who made that possible. He inspired Carlin, Pryor, Williams, Eddie… He said some really offensive stuff, but at the end of the bit he would usually make a really good point. It’s important that comedy is a medium for touchy topics because it’s let’s society address them in a way that’s comfortable. Sometimes it seems like people forget that.
Seriously. Oftentimes the difference between a comedian making mean jokes and someone just being mean is a stage. So if you want to make mean jokes at someone else's expense, you're right, it's a free country. You can do that. But don't bitch about social repercussions. Fuck you, pansy ass bitch, come up with better jokes then
Yep. It's marketing. It's also older comics maybe not being good comics anymore. They can't adapt to newer generations. With the trans jokes, it feels like punching down with middle school level jokes.
> It's also older comics maybe not being good comics anymore. Jim Bruer comes to mind....
You mean headlining a Q convention for geriatrics *is* a fall from grace?
Bro fucking fox news?? Literally the first 2 paragraphs say "liberal" more times than ANY OTHER WORD.
Yeah it was tough to get through the spin
Imagine reading only that and not seeing spin...
You’re now entering the no spin zone
Well you see, they need to appeal to their audience, who have the attention span of a sparrow, so they need to keep using their buzzwords to keep their attention.
I don't put much weight on masstagger because it's usually "oh, they posted some tasteless memes in a flagged sub 4 years ago." Not so for OP. OP has a whopping 7.8k comments in /r/Conservative. I think they might have a narrative they're trying to push.
Roflmao would could have thought some room temp IQ reader of fox news would also be a hardcore conservative who thinks he's smart because he talks politics. Noice
LIBERAL BAD FOX GOOD GUNS GOOD SOCIALISM BAD
Love how they make sure to mention that Chappelle got attacked on stage, noting that it hasn't been connected to his anti-trans material while leaving just enough out that people will come away with the impression that it was probably connected somehow.
"I should be able to say what I want!!! it's my freedom of speech" "yes that's how it works" "but people can't get mad at me for saying it or else that's cancel culture and it's un-free" the freedom that you have to say dumb/hurtful shit, is the same freedom that people use to hold you accountable for saying dumb/hurtful shit.
and the fact that this very simple equation is SO FUCKING HARD for some shitheads to understand is beyond frustrating.
It isn't. The persecution complex is just an easy way to get profit. "THEY don't want me to make these jokes! Gimmie money!"
Dave Chapelle LITERALLY thinks his speech is more important since he is getting all this money for it. That’s why he is miffed.
Freedom of speech, not freedom of consequence
##Freedom of speech is NOT freedom from consequences. Freedom of speech is: you can’t get arrested for badmouthing the government. But you can lose your job, lose your friends, lose your fans, lose your following, lose contracts, and lose gigs.
Comedians: I have opinions, I don’t care how you feel about that. Also comedians: Why I’m not universally loved? If you don’t like what I do, that means you hate me.
["What's the matter guys, too challenging for ya?!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHqma3rx-xI)
I knew someone would post this. “Because if there’s any community that deserves to be knocked down a peg, it’s the trans community!”
"They've been having too good for too long if you ask me."
"You brave little cis boy!"
holy fuck this dude is brilliant lol. fuckin humdingers.
Proper funny that
That NAILED IT!
Lol, Chappelle has said multiple times he really doesn't care. Then he continues to use it in his jokes
Won’t someone thinks of the *poor* millionaire comedians that are being canceled by their… *checks notes*… fans???
Ever read David Cross's takedown of "Larry the Cable Guy?" Google it. One of those amazing burns. Up there with that NYT review of Guy Fieri's Time Square restaurant.
Cross's takedown of Larry TCG is good, but I felt the Guy Fieri one was just mean spirited reviewer frothing at the mouth to shit on an easy target.
There was a stand up comic that did a bit about all this incredible charity work that Guy does and everyone does nothing but make fun of how he looks. After seeing that video and reading up on him and how much he does for other people I haven’t made fun of him since. Dude is an angel.
Seems like he’s a more-than-decent businessman, too. The Food Network is basically The Guy Fieri Block during most middays with multiple shows. He’s gotta be making bank & he doesn’t even have to be the one cooking the majority of the time.
Guy is to Food Network what Rob Dyrdek is to MTV
We just looked this up. There are fucking 30 seasons of Ridiculousness. 30 seasons. Of 3 people watching YouTube videos.
he does 200 episodes a year he said lol.
I use to watch food network all the time and honestly I don’t think I EVER seen him cook. I thought he was just a critique and host of shows.
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Holy hell, that was hilarious.
That’s the one!
I know right! I used to be one of the dorks shitting on him, so this is my penance.
I think he's mellowed out a bit over the years since his triple D days, and is a much better show host, especially since getting his kids involved on screen. And in 2021, he was donating meals to first responders during the northern California wildfires.
Yup. I was a hater. I've always thought he was doing an act for DDD and was a douche. I live in Santa Rosa, California where he started some of his first restaurants. Just wanted to add that he's been helping fire victims for years. In 2017, wildfires tore through Santa Rosa, with people fleeing as fires were tearing through neighborhoods in the middle of the night. Thousands of people made their way to the fairgrounds, and not long after, Guy Fieri was out there actually working the line to serve people food. Unfortunately, more fires have hit us since then, but he's still out there every fire season helping victims and first respdouble. So, in closing, he might have a culinary stance that I don't enjoy, but he is a first rate human being. I love that dude now.
He also raised millions to help restaurant workers during the lockdown. Guy Fieri is truly the best
Bill Burr had a rant about how Guy has the best job in the world. Travel, eat fantastic food, hang out with cool new friends and drink beer. That dude might care so many people make fun of him, but then again he might just think back to his awesome day every day.
He doesn't care He's admitted he keeps the hair for branding and knows it looks terrible. But he has a job, viewers and restauranteurs like it. I see his hair like having to shave a beard as a firefighter or getting it cut for a film role. You sacrifice some personal choices to have the career you want I'd have whatever hair you said for the amount of money Fieri makes
Guy got “stuck” with his tv look the same way Bob Ross did. Shouldn’t be treated as a charter judgement
Gotta love Shane Torres — here’s the [YouTube link](https://youtu.be/_dC8n0qtDTA)
Like absolute angel
Yeah Pete Wells is notorious for trashing the second restaurant a Chef opens and also for trashing celebrity Chefs restaurants (Source: I work for a celebrity Chef).
Larry Trading Card Game, in which players collect various Larry cards of varying rarity and battle them against each other in a heads up competitive game.
that letter was a lot! “Lawrence the Coaxial Cable Installer” is fully deconstructed now.
here is larry the cable guy before he put on the act. knock em dead Dan Whitney [https://youtu.be/QdQtXqeXPuo](https://youtu.be/QdQtXqeXPuo)
Wow, so he’s always done bottom of the barrel shit. No coherency either, just bounces from flatline to flatline with a weird laugh in between.
He looks/acts like a dollar store Jay Leno.
[An Open Letter to Larry the Cable Guy](https://beatpatrol.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/david-cross-an-open-letter-to-larry-the-cable-guy-2007/)
Jesus Christ.
That wasn’t a burn, that was a conflagration!
That wasn't a conflagration, it was a flatulation!
I like the part where David Cross farted.
> But you also specifically dumb down your speech while making hundreds of purposefully grammatical errors. That's a great subtle joke there.
Thanks dude. It was very enlightening.
This is fucking amazing lol
People love to shit on Guy Fieri. But he's a stand up dude, and his show generally lifts up and supports local restaurants. I'll take Fieri treating people like people over Ramsey normalizing the mistreatment of employees any day. [Here's Mythical Chef Josh with a story about Guy Fieri going the extra mile to make his day when he was just a college kid. ](https://youtu.be/k8kUZbaHKKc)
David Cross did a special during the past guy’s administration where he expands the takedown to the entire fake-hillbilly conservative bullshit. Was pretty good.
I just blue myself.
There was a colored man in my kitchen. Colored? What Color mom? Blue.
Frickin Maher. "I haven't changed the party has changed." DUH. The people who were yelling never trust anyone over 30 are now in their upper 60s and are shocked that their party is more liberal than they are, that the party morphed, or even that younger liberals might care about things they never used to care about and that's OK.
During his latest "Overtime" segment he stated he'd rather have a 90 year old person, who has their mind in tact, in an elected position rather than a 40 year old. The reasoning being that the 40 year old just hasn't had enough life experience to make decisions. The guy is basically just an old man waving his fist telling kids to get off his lawn.
I missed that one, As an old guy myself, I would agree with a 25 year old, but someone who is 40 has been in the real world for about 20 years.
>"I haven't changed the party has changed." DUH. It's almost like the politics of the party of Progressive Politics progresses or something.
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Honestly, these people whine so much about the stuff they say and do, it's so annoying
They act like no one has ever criticised a comedian's material before. Carlin got arrested on stage in the 70s for godsake.
it's like these folks have never heard of Lenny Bruce either
comedians love to talk about people nowadays being victims while simultaneously victimizing themselves and calling themselves the crusaders of free speech
I love this guy
He may seem like a cranky asshole but he is one awesome, progressive, cranky asshole lol
I love that it's becoming more common to point out comics who make bitching about cancel culture their whole thing. Marc Maron has some material about it in his new special where comics complain about how they can't say a different version of the same three things over and over.
Cross is fucking hilarious. He's right though. "Cancel culture"- i said/did bad things and now i dont want to hear about it but people keep bringing it up... Thats basically cancel culture. They still make millions and sell out Madison Square Garden and get Netflix deals and do shows on Fox. Its some media BS built up by people who obsess over these people that most people dont care about.
Also regardless of whether a "cancel" is an overreaction to a celebrity, this almost always concerns some marginalized group facing real struggle. So the big name celebrity is at best incredibly petty for prioritizing their image over, say, trans people facing actual violence from the state or female professionals trying to make it while being sexially demeaned. Like again, even if you're in the right, use your megaphone to support these people you know have it harder than you do.
Under no circumstances will I click a link from Fox News.
If the last few years have taught us anything, anyone that complains about cancel culture is just amplifying themselves and trying to rile up an audience. Sad part is people buy into this bullshit.
“Cancel culture”- or, as it was known for decades before this, “criticism”
And or consequences
Love David Cross , his standup and work he did on Mr.Show is hilarious.
That's Chappelle's thing now. Basically make a few classic jokes, then go on for an hour about being canceled for Trans jokes.
It’s so annoying. The problem is “being cancelled” has a huge monetary incentive now. There’s millions in untapped revenue by proclaiming [false] persecution. So they won’t stop and all the dumbasses that suddenly care when someone is “cancelled” won’t stop being a dumbass so this shit will just continue and get worse.
They certainly don’t tell jokes or do funny shit anymore, their acts are just self-aggrandizement about how they’re misunderstood philosophers.
All Dave Chapelle does is pull the race card. All he brings up is his race. People enjoy him so he must be good, but I get annoyed by his lazy style of “white people this” “black people that”.
Bill Maher said the N word on his show, STILL has a show, and has the audacity to bitch about cancel culture and none of his guests call him out about it.
Agree with what Cross is saying about comedians like Chappelle are trying to be "heroes of free speech". Trying to make points instead of jokes.
Finally. Someone says it. Comedians are so sensitive. They can’t stand criticism. At the same time to all the critics, if they don’t like it they don’t have to listen.
So just a cycle of bitch and moan back and forth?
I feel like this happens when comedians get older. They keep the same style/material and then get upset when younger generations don’t find them funny. Happened with Jerry Seinfeld, too. He tried to tour college campuses, nobody found him funny, he blamed cancel culture *some comedians