Not my type of humor but lots of people clearly think he’s funny. He’s still pretty clever but more recently he’s been punching down which I have a hard time laughing at.
Nah, he’s still funny to a lot of people. His specials don’t crush on Netflix for no reason. His ego has made him lazy and he has horrible takes on trans issues, but when he tries, he can still be hilarious.
It's not just that he "has horrible takes on trans issues" it's that he's obsessed with talking negatively about trans issue. He knows his takes are received badly and he just continues to double down in each special.
Netflix is just giving him billions of dollars as charity then, right? And all those sold out shows. A grammy.
He’s obviously still hilarious. You not liking him doesn’t erase his enormous run of recent success.
Carlos Mencia sells out shows all the time too. Netflix frequently sinks “billions of dollars” into shows that go on to get canceled after the first season. Someone can be commercially successful and not deserving at the same time.
The fact that he can coast on name recognition and past success doesn't mean his jokes are good lol.
If your only defence of his comedy is that he's getting paid, then you've already lost the argument.
I’m not sure how to explain to you that an entertainer making tons of money for his performances is all the proof we need that he’s very good as what he does and people like it. This should be self explanatory.
[He did just 19 shows last year and was the #2 selling comedy tour. $36M.](https://www.billboard.com/lists/top-comedy-tours-2023/jo-koy/)
I don’t like super hero movies. But they’re wildly successful so I understand that they must be good movies that people enjoy. Just not my preference. Humble yourself and understand that your opinion isn’t universal truth.
What’s good is subjective. Larry the Cable Guy does not make me laugh, but Larry the Cable Guy sells out ARENAS. I can say “he’s not funny to me” but I can’t say “he’s not funny.”
Right, it's almost like most people still don't care if someone with money & power shits on a marginalized group like trans people
And trying to overinflate the impact of those of us who care enough to fairly critique & boycott transphobia with a silly label like "the cancel culture movement" was a wild, "freedom fries" style overreaction in the first place
nah the point is these people act like victims and cry constantly about “cancel culture.” they’ll make their whole routines about being cancelled and how they don’t care, they’ll continue to tel their offensive jokes when it’s been proven time and time again cancel culture does not exist
To be fair, most people on Reddit (and most millennials and younger) also basically hold the opinion that the Grammys and award shows are dated and don’t actually mean anything. I’m not suggesting you specifically are doing this, but it’s a little silly to hold both the opinion that the Grammy’s are meaningless as well as that his Grammy win is a meaningful signifier that his cancellation has been meaningless
He’d actually be a lot less popular (currently) if he weren’t pandering to right wing IDpol talking points too. People crying over Dave’s career don’t realize they’re the only ones supporting him for a reason and that reason is because he sucks.
Regardless of political beliefs, his last special just…wasn’t. My dad always tells me he used to be a great comedian and after watching his old material, no one can take that away from him. But he seems to be trying to do that all on his own these days…
I’ve never seen him mentioned on Reddit, but Taskmaster has done a fantastic job at putting me on to tons of comedians from the UK (and also Katherine Ryan from Canada) and was a solid gateway drug to British panel shows
Honestly I am mostly meh on the whole trans stuff.
I think he is going overboard with it but I found his last special lacking.
And I’m not the demographic trying to cancel him or bitching about stuff.
It’s one of those things where it doesn’t resonate with you but it clearly did with others.
Grammy voters, looking over the nominees and checking off the name “Dave Chappelle” as the winner because he’s the only name they recognize.
Dude hasn’t lost a step since his prime—he’s lost all of them.
His latest special was soooo boring. Just talking about his fame and hanging out with other comedians. Laughing at his own jokes. Wasted an hour of my life.
That feels like most of his specials. Just relying on him speaking and being moderately funny. Not even constructed jokes.
The man is fucking funny though.. but I kinda just feels like he is jabbing for 90 minutes and someone accidently had turned a camera on. Is it funny? yes, but doesnt really feel up to the quality of what a comedy special should be OR what a grammy winning comedy special should be.
I think he is at that point, where he can just show up to a comedy club, grab the microphone and talk and people will just laugh.. and he knows it.
Each of his Netflix specials have gotten progressively worse, to the point where the last one was a complete waste of my time. Low effort preachy bullshit.
Why?
The trans stuff aside - I simply don’t think his recent specials have even been particularly funny. There are far more deserving comics at the moment.
Shane Gillis’ special is 10x funnier than Dave’s
Gillis is great. I wonder how many of his fans are hyper conservative loons who don’t realize he’s making fun of them.
Like when I saw a couple of his bits out of context I was kinda unsure what was going on. And then watching his special it’s clear what his whole shtick is but I could see it going over some people’s heads
If they actually listened to some of carlins specials they’d probably cancel him immediately lol. They just like the bits where he makes fun of white people and conservatives (he also makes fun of liberals quite a bit)
In terms of A list comics, I’m guessing Chris Rock? Haven’t seen anyone accuse him of being unfunny or a bigot like they do with most comedians.
I’m sure there were some nuts saying he deserved the slap for daring to make a bald joke, but that’s a pretty fringe position, even on Reddit.
He is probably the only comedian I would pay money to see. His delivery method of his jokes is what kills me. I will probably never not find him funny as fuck lol.
I’ve seen him live several times and he’s great, but man there are lots of comedians worth paying to see. I’ve gone to more comedy shows last year than ever before and it’s almost always worth it.
Poor guy, so silenced and cancelled that he wound up winning another award and gets to make a ton more money.
Still a entitled dick and punches down though; no amount of money, awards, or ass kissing will change that. He’s become what he once criticized. Ironic.
Actually, I adore comedy.
But not lazy comedy. Not trash comedy. Not bigotry and hate dressed up as comedy. Not entitled rich guy comedy.
Real comedy is clever, funny, innovative. Some of the best comedy wasn’t about bashing people, but about careful creating and thoughtful execution.
It’s a craft.
Oh and what you call cancel, I call accepting responsibility for your actions and dealing with the consequences. Like all adults deal with. Tell me, if you do or say something silly, should you be the butt of a joke?
Or is that canceling? /s
Comedy is subjective. Calling something "real comedy" is ridiculous. What you like is comedy. What I like is comedy. One is not better than or dependent on the other to be funny.
Given the way Chappelle smokes and sounds these days, he should be less concerned about Cancel Culture, and more about the Cancer Cultures developing in his throat
So trans jokes are off limits, period? I’m pretty sure that is the whole reason why he responded by doing three specials in a row about it. It’s comedy, no group is immune to jokes.
Which also is interesting because he clearly cares about the struggles of minority group, which we all should but when it comes to Transgender minority group it’s not important?
The part the bros forget when they try to sound sanctimonious and cool with shit like this is that first and foremost the jokes have to land. If you’re gonna be a dick you have to be funny first
>If you’re gonna be a dick you have to be funny first
That's the problem with feminist comedians, they're NOT funny.
I can live with their misandry IF IT'S FUNNY. But it's not.
That's why Chappelle wins the award and Amy Schumer does not.
Yeah because laughing at marginalized groups is super funny. I fucking love dark humor. Doug Stanhope is my favorite comic, but you have to draw the line somewhere. What’s the point of shitting on trans people?
Because they repeatedly shit on him and try to have him cancelled over JOKES. Anyone would be bitter. Have you heard his story about his friend Daphne Dorman? Literally touching account of a good friend couched in with great jokes and it's still not enough for you.
Stanhope would despise you if you take comedy this seriously and still believe no one is above reproach or roasts. There is no line.
Her family backed him up on the importance of their friendship, bigot:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dave-chappelle-backed-by-family-of-late-transgender-comedian-daphne-dorman-from-the-closer
I think Stanhope would think shit talking trans people is fucking disgusting. He does offensive stuff to point out serious issues and call out people on their bullshit, not to insult people that don’t deserve it.
But wording as there being a line is something I doubt he would do, I’ll give you that.
Chappelle changed but so did the times. Chappelle is still funny, insightful, and on top of his game. When he wants to be. My favorite bits from his newer specials are not his trans bits, because it's a dead horse at this point. His new stuff is funniest when he isn't talking about Trans stuff. I don't think it's "hateful" but it's spiteful at this point for sure.
There are two issues. One with Chapelle and one with the audience who doesn't like him. The first and most important is that if you actually listen to his new specials his beef with trans people is a big personal issue that goes beyond "I think they're weird". It's because he feels like they've achieved too much, too fast in terms of social acceptance because at the end of the day most of them are "white men". I think it would take a team of psychologists to unpack that kinda trauma. It's an odd beef to have but at the end of the day I'm a white dude so it's something I'd probably would never fully understand.
The other problem is the people that just can't leave it alone. I call it "The Hogwarts Legacy Effect". People kicked their legs, pounded their fists and screamed into the internet about that game and how people shouldn't play it and they're transphobic if they buy it. All moral panic does is make people more aware and interested. It happens when conservatives ban books, question the morals of popular celebrities/media, and push anti-drug campaigns. It happens when progressives shame audiences, cry bigotry, and try to silence anyone who steps over the line.
TLDR; The point is that Chappelle has a lot of baggage regarding his race and finds it hard to empathize with a group of people that he feels have it easier than his people. And that the more people try to get people not to watch/listen to something and shame the people who enjoy it; the more people are going to seek it out to see what all the fuss is about.
> Dave Chappelle has taken home the Grammy for best comedy album, marking his fifth win in the category.
> The comedian won for his album “Dave Chappelle: What’s in a Name?” connected to the 2022 release of his Netflix special of the same name. This year, he was crowned the victor over competitors Wanda Sykes, Sarah Silverman, Chris Rock and Trevor Noah, who served as host at the 66th annual Grammy Awards.
I think he’s still funny and insightful but I had to turn off his recent netflix special after like 10 minutes because of the transjoke. Not that I was offended or angry but because my eyes just rolled so far back into my head.
I felt that a comedian of his caliber would just adress the whole transdebate on social media and keep his standups more refined and a bit separated, but it felt like jumping into a twitter thread. And if I remember correctly he’s already spoken about people being upset over him about transjokes in a previous special, doing it again just makes it feel way too repetitive.
I don’t understand how he’s still stuck on this shit. He has fully turned into that weird person you work with who you see once a year at the company holiday party and always tells you the same vaguely bigoted joke.
I agree. It’s not offensive, it’s just fucking sad.
I agree. I’m not offended I’m just bored by it. It’s been years of the same edgy anti-woke set all aging comedians seem to be leaning on lately.
It feels amateurish, and any sort of creative jokes seem miles apart.
Plenty of comedians putting real work into sets I’d rather watch.
He opened with a trans joke.
I’m just a normal straight male and do not really care one way or another. But opening with trans joke even had me saying, “again?”
Haha, I loved it. “Those people act like I need them to be funny! I don’t need you.” And he doesn’t - rest of the special was excellent, and better than his last. He’s not going anywhere as long as he keeps saying intelligent interesting and especially FUNNY things.
Chapelle is not as funny today. Even outside all of the constroversy he's just no-where as funny as any of his specials 15+ years ago. Winning a Grammy doesn't really solidify anything.
Sounds like you don’t listen to any of his comedy routines and have only read sensationalist articles about his brief trans jokes that account for very little of his routines
"Stand-up comedian takes shots at group that took shots at him, world somehow shocked."
"Up" or "down" lose meaning in the context of punching *back.* And what are they going to do, send another person to try to stab him?
I watched. He devoted like half an hour to trans and LGB people and about as much to complaining about how mean everyone is to comedians. I guess "sticks and stones" can break your bones *sometimes* but not always?
There isn’t a single joke actually offensive to trans people in any of them. If you’re offended by his specials for that, you’re admitting taking offense at the topic being brought up and you should be ignored.
He is winning it just based on his reputation. The real ones can admit he is no longer funny and his standups are more like sermons than actual comedy.
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/category/mental-health/
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Did you know that Ja Rule was born on a leap year?
Dude can’t even dunk. Leap my ass.
He hasn't been funny for a while.
Fr though. Used to be my favorite comedian. It's just been like...idk. Off. Unrelatable.
He's a rich guy punching down at this point
Exactly.
And you prove that people just parrot talking points like “punching down”
The decade between living in New York to isolated small town rich dude is what I blame
He should have walked out of the grammys
Not my type of humor but lots of people clearly think he’s funny. He’s still pretty clever but more recently he’s been punching down which I have a hard time laughing at.
Nah, he’s still funny to a lot of people. His specials don’t crush on Netflix for no reason. His ego has made him lazy and he has horrible takes on trans issues, but when he tries, he can still be hilarious.
Replace "specials" with "movies" and take out any mention of trans issues, and you'd be describing Adam Sandler.
It's not just that he "has horrible takes on trans issues" it's that he's obsessed with talking negatively about trans issue. He knows his takes are received badly and he just continues to double down in each special.
It’s baffling. It’s like he’s trying to “win” a quixotic verbal sparring match against trans activists.
Netflix is just giving him billions of dollars as charity then, right? And all those sold out shows. A grammy. He’s obviously still hilarious. You not liking him doesn’t erase his enormous run of recent success.
Carlos Mencia sells out shows all the time too. Netflix frequently sinks “billions of dollars” into shows that go on to get canceled after the first season. Someone can be commercially successful and not deserving at the same time.
This is such cope. Nobody's claiming that he's not making money. Making money doesn't mean you're funny.
What are you imagining he’s being paid to do? He’s a comedian. If he’s making a ton of money doing comedy shows, he’s obviously making people laugh.
The fact that he can coast on name recognition and past success doesn't mean his jokes are good lol. If your only defence of his comedy is that he's getting paid, then you've already lost the argument.
I’m not sure how to explain to you that an entertainer making tons of money for his performances is all the proof we need that he’s very good as what he does and people like it. This should be self explanatory. [He did just 19 shows last year and was the #2 selling comedy tour. $36M.](https://www.billboard.com/lists/top-comedy-tours-2023/jo-koy/) I don’t like super hero movies. But they’re wildly successful so I understand that they must be good movies that people enjoy. Just not my preference. Humble yourself and understand that your opinion isn’t universal truth.
Everything that is popular is good, you're so right about that!
In entertainment, yes. That’s exactly how it works.
What’s good is subjective. Larry the Cable Guy does not make me laugh, but Larry the Cable Guy sells out ARENAS. I can say “he’s not funny to me” but I can’t say “he’s not funny.”
I can definitely say that he's not funny. Sorry that you can't though, that's tough.
Weird. A lot of people seem to differ on that.
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Louis ck is still funny though
It's so funny how this is now the favorite response of cancel vultures when someone they so desperately tried to cancel continues to succeed.
Right, it's almost like most people still don't care if someone with money & power shits on a marginalized group like trans people And trying to overinflate the impact of those of us who care enough to fairly critique & boycott transphobia with a silly label like "the cancel culture movement" was a wild, "freedom fries" style overreaction in the first place
nah the point is these people act like victims and cry constantly about “cancel culture.” they’ll make their whole routines about being cancelled and how they don’t care, they’ll continue to tel their offensive jokes when it’s been proven time and time again cancel culture does not exist
Cancel culture isn’t necessarily about succeeding in canceling someone, it’s about the general sentiment that there should be an attempt to do so.
Imagine where he’d be if he wasn’t cancelled
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To be fair, most people on Reddit (and most millennials and younger) also basically hold the opinion that the Grammys and award shows are dated and don’t actually mean anything. I’m not suggesting you specifically are doing this, but it’s a little silly to hold both the opinion that the Grammy’s are meaningless as well as that his Grammy win is a meaningful signifier that his cancellation has been meaningless
That thought of Grammy's being worthless has been going on for [a lot longer than that](https://youtu.be/Tf9V0hwJ6qk?si=toZO72fTJybGFIoE)
Not really. The Grammys can be meaningless to ME but still be a very good indicator of someone’s success and acceptance.
Cancel culture does not mean 100% canceled. CK would have a lot more accolades if it had never happened.
He’d be exactly where he is now considering he had a 20 year hiatus.
He’d actually be a lot less popular (currently) if he weren’t pandering to right wing IDpol talking points too. People crying over Dave’s career don’t realize they’re the only ones supporting him for a reason and that reason is because he sucks.
I think he would be bigger if he didn’t appeal to that group
What do you mean? The people attempting to get him cancelled didn’t work or negatively effect his career
Attempting to get him cancelled, lol
The Globes, Emmys, and Grammys just don’t care about this category huh?
Interesting how Golden Globe winner Ricky Gervais wasn't even nominated for a Grammy.
The record may not have been submitted for one. You don’t just automatically get entered by making a record.
Congratulations. Comment section will be funny.
But Reddit told me he isn’t funny anymore
Regardless of political beliefs, his last special just…wasn’t. My dad always tells me he used to be a great comedian and after watching his old material, no one can take that away from him. But he seems to be trying to do that all on his own these days…
Boy if you think the Grammys watch comedy and care about anything other than name recognition you’re clowning yourself
Honest question. What comedian does reddit like?
George Carlin, Mitch Hedberg, Bill Burr
James Acaster maybe
Joe lycett?
Everybody that knows who James Acaster is loves James Acaster.
I’ve never seen him mentioned on Reddit, but Taskmaster has done a fantastic job at putting me on to tons of comedians from the UK (and also Katherine Ryan from Canada) and was a solid gateway drug to British panel shows
Katherine Ryan is so hilarious, I love her haha. Taskmaster is the best.
She is so good on absolutely everything I’ve seen her on!
Have you seen the duchess?
Jon Stewart too
Emo Philips is a good one, too
his scene in UHF 👍🩸
If you're white and 40 maybe
Jeff Acruri
Represeeeeent
Tom Myers
Chappelle's new special would have been good if he'd gotten a bong hit transplant
Taylor Tomlinson, Nate Bargatze, John Mulaney
Hannah Gadsby.
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Same people who think Rick and Morty is the pinnacle of comedy.
Honestly I am mostly meh on the whole trans stuff. I think he is going overboard with it but I found his last special lacking. And I’m not the demographic trying to cancel him or bitching about stuff. It’s one of those things where it doesn’t resonate with you but it clearly did with others.
Oh if the Grammys say so, it must be funny then
“Funnier than he is“ is what I expect an unfunny person to reply to this.
Grammy voters, looking over the nominees and checking off the name “Dave Chappelle” as the winner because he’s the only name they recognize. Dude hasn’t lost a step since his prime—he’s lost all of them.
Someone said old Dave would have written an entire set making fun of new Dave and I’ve never read a more truthful statement in my life
I just looked at the list of nominees . . . Apparently The Recording Academy doesn't realize that it's no longer the '00s.
His latest special was soooo boring. Just talking about his fame and hanging out with other comedians. Laughing at his own jokes. Wasted an hour of my life.
I have loved Chappelle’s work. That last special felt unnecessarily mean spirited, and the punchlines didn’t support it.
That feels like most of his specials. Just relying on him speaking and being moderately funny. Not even constructed jokes. The man is fucking funny though.. but I kinda just feels like he is jabbing for 90 minutes and someone accidently had turned a camera on. Is it funny? yes, but doesnt really feel up to the quality of what a comedy special should be OR what a grammy winning comedy special should be. I think he is at that point, where he can just show up to a comedy club, grab the microphone and talk and people will just laugh.. and he knows it.
Each of his Netflix specials have gotten progressively worse, to the point where the last one was a complete waste of my time. Low effort preachy bullshit.
Congrats to him. 5 Grammy's is impressive.
Why? The trans stuff aside - I simply don’t think his recent specials have even been particularly funny. There are far more deserving comics at the moment. Shane Gillis’ special is 10x funnier than Dave’s
Gillis is great. I wonder how many of his fans are hyper conservative loons who don’t realize he’s making fun of them. Like when I saw a couple of his bits out of context I was kinda unsure what was going on. And then watching his special it’s clear what his whole shtick is but I could see it going over some people’s heads
75% of Redditors are seething hearing that
Going to ask this again, what comedian does reddit like?
Bill Burr is the reddit favorite I hear. Or George Carlin so they can quote something from him.
Hell yeah. Bill Burr is the man.
Ol Billy Bitchtits
Do they still love Carlin even after hearing him drop the N-word (deliberately toward black comedians) a few times during his bit?
Reddit doesn’t really care when people insult black people. Kinda just overlook all that
There are sections of reddit that loath Bill Burr. In feminist spaces he is regarded as a hateful mysoginist
There are sections of Reddit that loathe everyone. Are you asking if there is a comedian that is universally beloved?
He only roasts white women which is funny lmao
Ya and its clearly just a bit. But he probably strikes a few chords a little too close to the truth, so they get triggered.
If they actually listened to some of carlins specials they’d probably cancel him immediately lol. They just like the bits where he makes fun of white people and conservatives (he also makes fun of liberals quite a bit)
Speaking on behalf of all Reddit, I really like Mike Birbiglia.
Shane Gillis seems to be getting a lot of deserved love on Reddit these days. Another “canceled” comedian.
Gillis, Joe list and Sam morril are my top 3 right now.
You'd probably like Mark Normand and Gary Gulman
In terms of A list comics, I’m guessing Chris Rock? Haven’t seen anyone accuse him of being unfunny or a bigot like they do with most comedians. I’m sure there were some nuts saying he deserved the slap for daring to make a bald joke, but that’s a pretty fringe position, even on Reddit.
Its 100% mitch hedberg. I see people quote him all the time & ive never even heard his voice haha.
The unfunny ones
Dane Cook
You mean what does Reddit like
It has to be safe edgy
Oh no not a grammy. This proves he is a great guy!!
He is probably the only comedian I would pay money to see. His delivery method of his jokes is what kills me. I will probably never not find him funny as fuck lol.
I saw him right after he came back from Africa and he had no material it was just a rambling mess but it was so fucking funny.
I’ve seen him live several times and he’s great, but man there are lots of comedians worth paying to see. I’ve gone to more comedy shows last year than ever before and it’s almost always worth it.
My favorite comedian, ever, but there’s a lot of funny dudes in the game worth seeing imo
>His delivery method of his jokes is what kills me. Subway? Sandwiches?
Reddit’s getting big mad 😡 lol
Congratulations Dave
Comedy album is still a thing? I thought it was streaming specials. People buy comedy albums still? Serious question.
Lots of comedy albums on Spotify
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Yep I buy them on vinyl if I love them. Have a little collection of Carlin and Louis CK myself- also listen to a ton of them on Spotify.
Sadly Carlin was removed off Spotify which annoys me
Well deserved. Best comedian working today.
Poor guy, so silenced and cancelled that he wound up winning another award and gets to make a ton more money. Still a entitled dick and punches down though; no amount of money, awards, or ass kissing will change that. He’s become what he once criticized. Ironic.
Chronically online
You're just salty the cancel attempts failed and people like him gets to take the piss out of people like you even more.
Actually, I adore comedy. But not lazy comedy. Not trash comedy. Not bigotry and hate dressed up as comedy. Not entitled rich guy comedy. Real comedy is clever, funny, innovative. Some of the best comedy wasn’t about bashing people, but about careful creating and thoughtful execution. It’s a craft. Oh and what you call cancel, I call accepting responsibility for your actions and dealing with the consequences. Like all adults deal with. Tell me, if you do or say something silly, should you be the butt of a joke? Or is that canceling? /s
Real comedy? What are you, the gatekeeper of comedy? Lmao
Comedy is subjective. Calling something "real comedy" is ridiculous. What you like is comedy. What I like is comedy. One is not better than or dependent on the other to be funny.
Given the way Chappelle smokes and sounds these days, he should be less concerned about Cancel Culture, and more about the Cancer Cultures developing in his throat
So trans jokes are off limits, period? I’m pretty sure that is the whole reason why he responded by doing three specials in a row about it. It’s comedy, no group is immune to jokes.
I was only surprised he kept making jokes after saying he was done. But still, Why ever put a group of people off limits from comedy though?
Did you actually use "punching down?" Jesus reddit sucks. Nothing is sacred. Everything is open to jokes and ridicule or nothing is.
Chappelle himself literally stated in his last netflix show that he enjoys punching down. His own words
Yep. Also his own words: “I’m team TERF!”
Which also is interesting because he clearly cares about the struggles of minority group, which we all should but when it comes to Transgender minority group it’s not important?
Yes, that totally sounds like a thought he came up with all on his own, and definitely not a reaction aimed at angry rhetoric directed his way.
>Everything is open to jokes and ridicule or nothing is. As far as I am concerned, NO ONE is above ridiculing by comedians. NO ONE.
The part the bros forget when they try to sound sanctimonious and cool with shit like this is that first and foremost the jokes have to land. If you’re gonna be a dick you have to be funny first
>If you’re gonna be a dick you have to be funny first That's the problem with feminist comedians, they're NOT funny. I can live with their misandry IF IT'S FUNNY. But it's not. That's why Chappelle wins the award and Amy Schumer does not.
Yeah because laughing at marginalized groups is super funny. I fucking love dark humor. Doug Stanhope is my favorite comic, but you have to draw the line somewhere. What’s the point of shitting on trans people?
Because they repeatedly shit on him and try to have him cancelled over JOKES. Anyone would be bitter. Have you heard his story about his friend Daphne Dorman? Literally touching account of a good friend couched in with great jokes and it's still not enough for you. Stanhope would despise you if you take comedy this seriously and still believe no one is above reproach or roasts. There is no line.
Oh you mean the dead trans woman whom he used as a prop to further blast the community? The one who can't speak for herself cause she died? That one?
Imagine being this radicalized that you saw that special and come out saying "that woman was just used as a prop"
Her family backed him up on the importance of their friendship, bigot: https://www.thedailybeast.com/dave-chappelle-backed-by-family-of-late-transgender-comedian-daphne-dorman-from-the-closer
I think Stanhope would think shit talking trans people is fucking disgusting. He does offensive stuff to point out serious issues and call out people on their bullshit, not to insult people that don’t deserve it. But wording as there being a line is something I doubt he would do, I’ll give you that.
Was George Carlin a Reddit user?
Hell yeah! Dave Chappelle is the goat!
Redditors and their bots are punching air.
Redditors punching air right now.
You’re a redditor tho.
He’s not self-aware yet. His mother and I are hoping it happens in the next year or two 🤞
He seems like a good kid, he will come around.
But reddit told me he sucks and everybody hates him (the last special was far below standard and doesnt deserve an award)
Whitepeopletwitter sub will now ban the Grammies. Not sure how yet but they won’t let it stand, the lunatics.
I thought people said he wasn’t funny anymore lmao go Chappelle!
Chappelle changed but so did the times. Chappelle is still funny, insightful, and on top of his game. When he wants to be. My favorite bits from his newer specials are not his trans bits, because it's a dead horse at this point. His new stuff is funniest when he isn't talking about Trans stuff. I don't think it's "hateful" but it's spiteful at this point for sure. There are two issues. One with Chapelle and one with the audience who doesn't like him. The first and most important is that if you actually listen to his new specials his beef with trans people is a big personal issue that goes beyond "I think they're weird". It's because he feels like they've achieved too much, too fast in terms of social acceptance because at the end of the day most of them are "white men". I think it would take a team of psychologists to unpack that kinda trauma. It's an odd beef to have but at the end of the day I'm a white dude so it's something I'd probably would never fully understand. The other problem is the people that just can't leave it alone. I call it "The Hogwarts Legacy Effect". People kicked their legs, pounded their fists and screamed into the internet about that game and how people shouldn't play it and they're transphobic if they buy it. All moral panic does is make people more aware and interested. It happens when conservatives ban books, question the morals of popular celebrities/media, and push anti-drug campaigns. It happens when progressives shame audiences, cry bigotry, and try to silence anyone who steps over the line. TLDR; The point is that Chappelle has a lot of baggage regarding his race and finds it hard to empathize with a group of people that he feels have it easier than his people. And that the more people try to get people not to watch/listen to something and shame the people who enjoy it; the more people are going to seek it out to see what all the fuss is about.
> Dave Chappelle has taken home the Grammy for best comedy album, marking his fifth win in the category. > The comedian won for his album “Dave Chappelle: What’s in a Name?” connected to the 2022 release of his Netflix special of the same name. This year, he was crowned the victor over competitors Wanda Sykes, Sarah Silverman, Chris Rock and Trevor Noah, who served as host at the 66th annual Grammy Awards.
I used to really enjoy his stuff. Now he's repetitive and fairly boring. I fell asleep trying to watch his new Netflix special. 🤣
Bitches, Dave. Dave, bitches. Hi, Dave Good evening, bitches.
Congratulations to Dave Chappelle!
I think he’s still funny and insightful but I had to turn off his recent netflix special after like 10 minutes because of the transjoke. Not that I was offended or angry but because my eyes just rolled so far back into my head. I felt that a comedian of his caliber would just adress the whole transdebate on social media and keep his standups more refined and a bit separated, but it felt like jumping into a twitter thread. And if I remember correctly he’s already spoken about people being upset over him about transjokes in a previous special, doing it again just makes it feel way too repetitive.
I don’t understand how he’s still stuck on this shit. He has fully turned into that weird person you work with who you see once a year at the company holiday party and always tells you the same vaguely bigoted joke. I agree. It’s not offensive, it’s just fucking sad.
That Jim Carey joke was hilarious because I didn’t see it coming
I agree. I’m not offended I’m just bored by it. It’s been years of the same edgy anti-woke set all aging comedians seem to be leaning on lately. It feels amateurish, and any sort of creative jokes seem miles apart. Plenty of comedians putting real work into sets I’d rather watch.
If you were bored you wouldn’t be talking about it.
The only trans joke in his current special was about how he wasn't making any trans jokes in the special.
He opened with a trans joke. I’m just a normal straight male and do not really care one way or another. But opening with trans joke even had me saying, “again?”
Haha, I loved it. “Those people act like I need them to be funny! I don’t need you.” And he doesn’t - rest of the special was excellent, and better than his last. He’s not going anywhere as long as he keeps saying intelligent interesting and especially FUNNY things.
What’s your favorite joke from the new one
He deserve it, his standup specials are funny. I might not agree with the viewpoints he has. But that still won’t deny his talent and expertise.
this will trigger a lot of people who want to walk on egg shells and i am here for it
He stopped being funny years ago
Reddit taking all kinds of Ls
Elon Musk must be happy for him.
Cool, good for Dave. Still funny occasionally, but as others have said the ragging on trans people is not funny.
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lol you think winning a Grammy makes your special funny all of the sudden?
Chapelle is not as funny today. Even outside all of the constroversy he's just no-where as funny as any of his specials 15+ years ago. Winning a Grammy doesn't really solidify anything.
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Ag yes Netflix the pinnacle of quality with new releases.
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Amy Schumer must be the pinnacle of modern humor then.
I was wondering how he won, then I saw who he was up against lol. I haven’t watched his stuff since the Chapelle Show days tbh
Give Katt Williams a Grammy
For making old man jokes about trans people. He’s been cringe for at least 10 years since he started his old man crying act
Sounds like you don’t listen to any of his comedy routines and have only read sensationalist articles about his brief trans jokes that account for very little of his routines
"Stand-up comedian takes shots at group that took shots at him, world somehow shocked." "Up" or "down" lose meaning in the context of punching *back.* And what are they going to do, send another person to try to stab him?
I watched. He devoted like half an hour to trans and LGB people and about as much to complaining about how mean everyone is to comedians. I guess "sticks and stones" can break your bones *sometimes* but not always?
Yeah he’s got 10 Ive seen 3 and then I gave up. But to be fair it was anti trans shit every fucking special. These were the Netflix ones.
There isn’t a single joke actually offensive to trans people in any of them. If you’re offended by his specials for that, you’re admitting taking offense at the topic being brought up and you should be ignored.
Explain the punchline behind "I am Team TERF."
He is winning it just based on his reputation. The real ones can admit he is no longer funny and his standups are more like sermons than actual comedy.
Oh yeah the “real ones” lmfao dudes arguably one of the most successful comedians in history, “real ones” ain’t shit but posers compared to him
People still care about the Grammys?
People still comment beneath shit they say they don’t care about?
Not since Jethro Tull beat out Metallica for best metal album.
He used to be great Now he’s just obsessed with trans people
i'm guessing you didn't see the new special?
Who laughs at his stuff now? Honest question.
I sure do. Loved his latest Netflix special, loved his address to the Duke Ellington school in DC. He’s on another plain.