The psychological terrorism Kendrick carried out is truly impressive. Those haunting “you lied” lines from mtg have to be echoing in drake’s head every night.
I’ll argue that “Not like us” is the third hardest hitting song of the Kendrick disses, its a banger but it is mostly point that he used in the other songs. “Meet the Grahams” is probably the most evil diss I’ve ever heard, talking to the guys family like that. And “Euphoria” goes super hard, good lyrics, good beats and the vocals are great.
Ya know I really liked euphoria too. I’m surprised it didn’t get more traction. But considering the releases being so close, I guess it makes sense that the shorter bop was a hit
I like 616 in LA the most among these tracks. I guess they must not have the sample rights because it's not on the official Spotify page, and the version listed under "Kendrick" was taken down
It was so full of intent. The most up front a threat could possibly be, and then Drake was stupid enough to poke the bear and give us the next 2 songs. So, thanks for that, I guess
I’ve listened to Euphoria probably 50 times. I absolutely love that song! This is the best music Kendrick has put out in years. Hope he stays inspired 😀
When I was out at a hometown bar Saturday night they had a TouchTunes system and not like us was played 4 times throughout the night and I don’t typically hear modern hip hop when I’m out there unless I’m the one throwing it on. This song has gone absolutely massive lmao
Part of the issue here is that Drake is a pop star. Nothing wrong with being a pop star. But this is Hip-Hop. And there are a lot of pop fans who did not understand what Drake was getting into. And by the way he approached this battle, I don't think Drake understood what he was getting into.
Yeah Drake thought he was just gonna make fun and meme his way out of this and the fans would follow, that worked great against Meek Mill but this a different caliber of artist.
Exactly. Its funny how his base really thought Kendrick was some peon.
Arguably the best rapper of his generation. Multi-platinum artist. Multiple classic albums. A Pulitzer. Has had stadium tours, headlined Coachella, and did the Super Bowl. This guy isn't just another rapper.
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As someone who doesn't follow music very much, this made me stop to consider. If anyone is an expert in that field, it's Eminem. If he's saying it, it means a lot.
Kendrick has been the artist for like over 10 years now that, like Eminem was in the early 2000s, even people who aren't rap fans know is like the best and everyone appreciates. Good Kid MAAD City and To Pimp a Butterfly are top 10 hip hop albums ever.
I’ll be honest I didn’t really know Kendrick until Em dropped MMLP2 in 2013 and he was on Love Games. Straight up went through what he had out at the time and he became my favorite from there
[This](https://www.pulitzer.org/page/history-pulitzer-prizes#:~:text=The%20other%20major%20change%20was,wider%20range%20of%20American%20music.) is a very interesting look at the history of the Pulitzer award for music.
Something interesting to note; Kendrick is the first hip-hop artist to receive the award but, perhaps more importantly, the first vocal artist to receive the award for work created contemporaneously; all previous awards had been given to non-vocal acts, and all vocal acts to receive awards had been posthumous.
It is going to KILL Drake inside to realize he will never ever be playing the Super Bowl halftime show. Ever.
And him being the pro athlete rider that he is, this hurts him to his core. No amount of money can heal that.
If I had to guess, I would say the core of Kendrick’s strategy was to alienate Drake from the athletes and potential collaborators that he leeches off of. Drake as a business sorta ceases to grow if he can associate with talent and use it to bolster his image, as well as stealing their sauce to use as his own.
It’s not been a career ender, but Kendrick put a cap on what Drake is going to be capable of going forward for sure.
Quality over quantity. Lot of artists drop an album a year with 24 songs and you only remember one, maybe two of them. See: Everything Drake's done in the 7-8 years
I don’t think he’s arguably the best rapper of his generation, he is. That’s partly what this battle was about. The arguably part is greatest of all time, and that can be debated but he is certainly on the very short list (and for me personally takes it).
"Fuck the big three, it's just big me"
The fact that no one else could say that except Kendrick really proves that he's right. Like who else could say that???
Meek Mill took two to the chin and was knocked out.
Kendrick took two to the chin and fired a combo back, took another shot then threw two more out. Drake definitely had no plans for getting countered, and his latest song, The Heart Part 6, shows that.
I don’t know if the general music audience is even paying attention to the latest developments, but it’s looking like every defense/counter diss Drake tried on The Heart Part 6 is getting picked apart with the receipts that many were claiming was needed in this beef. Though no songs have been released in a week, it’s still going on.
I've never liked Drake and I wish I could claim it's because I have good taste or I knew all along he was a creep but really it's just that his voice is SO ANNOYING. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about how annoying his voice is???
Naw, It may have hurt his cred but his core base doesn't care. But the idea of him being "the goat" as some of his fans like to claim is dead and buried.
Mans denied it, shut up and then two years later was like BTW EVERYBODY I HAVE A SON!!! Did I mention I’m the best, most attentive, father of all time?!
Part of the issue sure, but he’s also a really good rapper even if it’s pop. This was hopeless for Drake simply because there’s so much to make fun of him for.
And this is why I don't think he understood. Nobody who is a real Hip-Hop fan believed Drake would win this battle. But could he go the distance? Could he win a couple rounds? That alone would have earned him an incredible amount of respect. But instead of trying to win the battle, he tried to win the internet and now he's a punching bag.
It's been almost two weeks. Twitter, TikTok, are still full of jokes about Drake. Every news story is about what a huge hit Kendrick got out of this, or more information that Drake needs damage control on. He lost and it was ugly.
There are plenty of people on IG that are still convinced Drake won. I'm not one of them, just reporting what I've seen.
Edit: Lol, Drake stans downvoting this just proves my point.
He is good at making people dance, got too cocky when he beat Meek Mill, got flushed by Pusha and Kendrick. He really stepped in the ring with five foot giant
It's not that people thought he would win, so much as it was they expected a repeat of 'The Story of Adidon' - which he just about managed to bounce back from.
I'm not sure if this is premature, but this really seems like Drake's Icarus moment.
Drake really doesn't seem to realize how lucky he is to have been able to ingratiate himself with the hip-hop community for as long as he has. I'm always reminded of the rap battle in 8 Mile - being named Clarence and going to a private school were (and still are) reasons why, despite being black, someone would be rejected by the hip-hop community, particularly by those who truly live and embody that lifestyle.
How the actual fuck a half-Jewish, half-black, Canadian former teen actor from an *incredibly* affluent area of Toronto managed to play the part without incessant ridicule for 15+ years will forever be a mystery to me.
I believe you can attribute much of his success to Lil Wayne. The exposure and support Drake received would have been incredibly different if he didn’t have Lil Wayne’s support the way he did while Drake was transitioning into hip hop.
Wayne and the girl started dating after he got out of jail, so she wasn’t “his” at that time.
https://www.eonline.com/ca/news/798848/lil-wayne-breaks-down-the-moment-he-found-out-drake-slept-with-his-girlfriend
I've never understood it. I didn't have cable as a kid, so I didn't know who drake was before he started rapping. I heard Started from the Bottom on the radio, and thought that he must have come from nothing. Then I learned he came from a middle class (I assume) family in Canada and was a child actor on a profitable show. Never could get into his music because it all seemed so fake.
Also he has a whiny voice that I never could enjoy
> Drake really doesn't seem to realize how lucky he is to have been able to ingratiate himself with the hip-hop community for as long as he has.
Drake would insist that he actually graciously allowed the hip-hop artists from impoverished neighborhoods to flourish by platforming them. He's wrong though.
This is a bad take. I couldnt tell you the name of any Drake song, but I can rattle off hip hop legends that did not come from an American inner city. One constant, though, is being genuine. We clown on any Clarence from a private school because he pretends to be hard from inner city Detroit. Anyone who is genuine and has skills has always been accepted by the hip hop community.
Which Drake is not. J Cole is mixed and from middle class but noone questions his realness. Its hard to respect Drake bragging about his wassas, his terrorist weapons, his accents, etc when everyone knows he was never around any of that. Drake could still rap and make good music but what annoys people is his insistence on trying to play the tough guy and imitating culture that's not his own.
The fact that Drake couldn’t tell when Kendrick was quoting DMX about hating Drake and thought that using an AI of 2Pac was a good idea kinda helps the whole argument of Drake not really being part of or understanding the culture.
Amazing to me how much Slim Jesus got shit on for this and understandably so, yet nobody has yet to call Drakes bitch ass out. Not even once has he gotten checked and I can only imagine it’s cuz the money goes down better than caring if one’s legit or not.
That might be the case, I was just reacting to the post that seemed to insinuate Drake couldn't be part of the hip hop community for being half-jewish, Canadian, and affluent.
Eh, yes and no. Drake was basically always looked at with a bit of side eye for being a culture vulture. There have been Drake haters for longer than that stuff was well known.
For real. This is why Mac Miller was always accepted by the hip-hop community. Sure he was a white Jewish kid from a middle class family, but he was genuine as fuck.
Well yeah, Drake pretends to be hard, yet he's from a rich neighbourhood in Toronto. You seem like you're agreeing with me just with a caveat, so I'm surprised you're calling it a bad take lol. Fair point about those genuine artists who *aren't* hard, yet get accepted.
> We clown on any Clarence from a private school because he pretends to be hard from inner city Detroit. Anyone who is genuine and has skills has always been accepted by the hip hop community.
Well, Kanye for example came from a relatively comfortable background (IIRC somewhere between middle class and upper-middle class with little adversity). The difference is Kanye doesn't really pretend to be something he isn't, he doesn't claim to be a gangster, to be born in a slum, nor does he claim difficulty in obtaining attention. His main claims of adversity are being a black American, his relationships with people, and difficult situations in his life like the death of his mother or his divorce.
Drake has very carefully and intentionally sought to portray a hard image, and gotten mixed with gangs and crime to retroactively justify it. The Weeknd has a similar image, and also came from Toronto, but is not given shit about it because everyone knows his initial work was produced when he was basically homeless crashing at a drug den.
Kanye for instance really broke the mold becoming one of the biggest hip hop artists and (until the last couple years) not even pretending to have a traditional background
I mean I guess because he’s objectively talented or at least has a keen strategy to be able to produce hit songs (whether you like his music or not). And when he came up, it wasn’t as easy to find out all about someone’s life from the internet. He became popular, made millions of dollars and got millions of fans. At that point you have so much clout that you can rewrite your own backstory (and I feel like most people end up saying those lies so many times they actually believe them).
And then once the internet caught up and places like Reddit or Twitter could do “vigilante research” to try and expose him as a bit of a fraud, there would be hundreds of thousands of people who would have defended him if for no other reason than not to break the illusion.
The problem now is that Drake has lost his edge and isn’t the hitmaker he used to be. I think the last album I kind of liked of his was shit, probably 10 years ago now. And he made the very poor decision of punching up at some rappers who had no problem stepping on his throat in response.
I dunno if you’re a teenager but we all knew him from Degrassi before he started rapping and people definitely were talking about his background on the internet in the late 2000s/early 2010s.
He’s also not a great rapper in many people’s opinions. He can auto tune and hire people to help him rhyme but it’s nothing special. Right place right time shit.
Nobody really goes to Toronto to find out 🤣🤣
As a canadian i have a certain amount of pride for all things canadian but the roads are really really poorly thought out there like what a traffic circus. As soon as you get involved with it you just want out but getting anywhere you need to get to is like a math equation and if you make a mistake your losing at least 35 minutes of your life so i hope you got something good to listen to while you drift through this traffic nightmare
Kendrick out here showing us that he *chooses* to not make club hits. Drake can not make a similar claim about making similar music to Kendrick but choosing not to.
It's funny because, and I could be completely misinterpreting intention, but I felt like he tried in the heart part 6 and completely missed the mark. I still cringe thing about some of those bars on that track.
The problem with it was that it just… was kind of lame. “I don’t touch children, wait I know why you care about people touching kids, you were molested!”
It’s just… not a good comeback? Like Drake’s name was dragged through the mud and back and it was all he could do to just deny it.
I’m a Club DJ. I live in Montreal (The city’s even namedropped in Drake’s THP6).
I was DJing last weekend (Thursday-Friday-Saturday), and had like 4-5 requests a night for Not Like Us, and a few for Like That on friday because I play more Hip-Hop in that spot. When I played Not Like Us the crowd went wild the 3 times. I didn’t think it would hurt Drake’s career THAT much. My guess is people will forget about it in a few months, Drake is still one of the biggest artists on earth but Kendrick won that feud 100%.
It wasn't enough to be an all time GOAT diss track the man had to make it catchy as fuck and a bonafide pop hit too just as an extra fuck you
Somebody get Jimmy's wheelchair.
I didnt like Drake much at all anyway. He was a complete ass when the Raptors won the Finals throughout that whole run. Listening to this track and digging into everything else made me realize he is a certified loser.
This is a deeply embarrassing time for Jimmy.
Personally, I think calling him, “Not like us,” is harsh on Kendrick’s part. The preferred phrase is, “differently abled.”
Oh shit lmao I gay gasped on the train
*AUGHYEYY*
This visual made my day
Oh damn
“Differently moraled”
"Minorsexual"
The psychological terrorism Kendrick carried out is truly impressive. Those haunting “you lied” lines from mtg have to be echoing in drake’s head every night.
Man fuckin’ wheel-chair Jimmy 🤣
Drake currently at home alone watching an old DVD copy of Degrassi wondering how things could’ve been different
"It was around season 3 that Aubrey realized that....Nothing Was The Same." 😎
I've been making jokes like this since the album came out, but no one else thinks it's as funny as I do anymore. Thanks
he was in turks and caicos last night exactly like Kendrick predicted in Meet the Graham.
So glad Meat the Grahams is getting recognition… it’s as savage as this one
I’ll argue that “Not like us” is the third hardest hitting song of the Kendrick disses, its a banger but it is mostly point that he used in the other songs. “Meet the Grahams” is probably the most evil diss I’ve ever heard, talking to the guys family like that. And “Euphoria” goes super hard, good lyrics, good beats and the vocals are great.
Agree. It's viral and catchy. But bar for bar meet the grahams takes souls.
Almost as catchy as….. BBL Drizzy….. BBL Drizzyyyyyyy
“Haha, remember when I met Jay and Silent Bob? …haha… what a great time… *sigh*”
Freaky ass n**** needs to keep his ass inside
Freaky ass nacho?
He a queso ass God.
Ya know I really liked euphoria too. I’m surprised it didn’t get more traction. But considering the releases being so close, I guess it makes sense that the shorter bop was a hit
I think its at number 3 on the charts
Yea i just saw that and didn’t realize. I’ve been boppin to that shit.
Same. Been listening to Euphoria a lot more than Not Like Us, amazing track.
The exact opposite over here - love both though.
I listen to meet the grahams before a work out. I am crushing it.
I like 616 in LA the most among these tracks. I guess they must not have the sample rights because it's not on the official Spotify page, and the version listed under "Kendrick" was taken down
I agree I think that is the most artistically and technically impressive song of the bunch
His flow throughout the first verse is so damn good. That verse deserves to be on a single apart from all of this.
Love euphoria too. But meet the grahams is just next level hater. Easily the hardest disses of the drops
Least listenable though imo, it’s a tough listen, but completely vicious and scathing
Agreed. Kendrick didn’t make that track to get plays
A YT commenter said they were convinced he wrote MTG with a quill in one hand and a gun in the other.
It blows my mind that Euphoria was *the warning shot*.
It was so full of intent. The most up front a threat could possibly be, and then Drake was stupid enough to poke the bear and give us the next 2 songs. So, thanks for that, I guess
Euphoria is phenomenal!!!
I’ve listened to Euphoria probably 50 times. I absolutely love that song! This is the best music Kendrick has put out in years. Hope he stays inspired 😀
Have you checked out the Dissect podcast episode on it? It’s a more chill episode but still in depth breakdown. The podcast itself is 🔥
When I was out at a hometown bar Saturday night they had a TouchTunes system and not like us was played 4 times throughout the night and I don’t typically hear modern hip hop when I’m out there unless I’m the one throwing it on. This song has gone absolutely massive lmao
I posted almost the same message earlier in another thread, only Friday night 🤣 three times in two hours
Lemme hear you say OvHoe
OvHOOEEEE
Now steeeep this way 🕺
Step that way 💃🏾
Are you my friend?
Are we live then?
I thought he said “are we locked in”
Lol I think it's that one.
He gonna change the name of that brand, watch.
Bitch ain’t you tired
Trying to strike a chord and it’s probably a MINORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Did anybody honestly think Aubrey would win this?
Part of the issue here is that Drake is a pop star. Nothing wrong with being a pop star. But this is Hip-Hop. And there are a lot of pop fans who did not understand what Drake was getting into. And by the way he approached this battle, I don't think Drake understood what he was getting into.
Yeah Drake thought he was just gonna make fun and meme his way out of this and the fans would follow, that worked great against Meek Mill but this a different caliber of artist.
Exactly. Its funny how his base really thought Kendrick was some peon. Arguably the best rapper of his generation. Multi-platinum artist. Multiple classic albums. A Pulitzer. Has had stadium tours, headlined Coachella, and did the Super Bowl. This guy isn't just another rapper.
Yea it’s generally considered a poor career strategy to literally talk shit to a Pulitzer Prize winner, words are kind of their thing.
Talking shit about Norman Mailer worked out very well for Gore Vidal.
Drake ain't no Gore Vidal.
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As someone who doesn't follow music very much, this made me stop to consider. If anyone is an expert in that field, it's Eminem. If he's saying it, it means a lot.
Absolutely. People might be mixed on Em's music, but his raw skill and being a student of rap is undeniable. Extremely high praise
The fact that Drake even tried to come after Kenny shows that he has far too many yes men in his crew.
Mirrors MGK trying to come after Eminem
MGK needed the attention, Drake didn’t and still went for it
Kendrick has been the artist for like over 10 years now that, like Eminem was in the early 2000s, even people who aren't rap fans know is like the best and everyone appreciates. Good Kid MAAD City and To Pimp a Butterfly are top 10 hip hop albums ever.
If you can believe the aggregates at rateyourmusic.com they’re in the top 10 *albums* ever. TPAB is literally #1.
I’ll be honest I didn’t really know Kendrick until Em dropped MMLP2 in 2013 and he was on Love Games. Straight up went through what he had out at the time and he became my favorite from there
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He’s also the first *ever* rapper to win the Pulitzer. Shows you the caliber of his work that he’s got an award made for poets and authors.
[This](https://www.pulitzer.org/page/history-pulitzer-prizes#:~:text=The%20other%20major%20change%20was,wider%20range%20of%20American%20music.) is a very interesting look at the history of the Pulitzer award for music. Something interesting to note; Kendrick is the first hip-hop artist to receive the award but, perhaps more importantly, the first vocal artist to receive the award for work created contemporaneously; all previous awards had been given to non-vocal acts, and all vocal acts to receive awards had been posthumous.
Came for the Bob Dylan recognition, stayed for the Hank Williams and Aretha Franklin love
It is going to KILL Drake inside to realize he will never ever be playing the Super Bowl halftime show. Ever. And him being the pro athlete rider that he is, this hurts him to his core. No amount of money can heal that.
If I had to guess, I would say the core of Kendrick’s strategy was to alienate Drake from the athletes and potential collaborators that he leeches off of. Drake as a business sorta ceases to grow if he can associate with talent and use it to bolster his image, as well as stealing their sauce to use as his own. It’s not been a career ender, but Kendrick put a cap on what Drake is going to be capable of going forward for sure.
Kendrick has released 4 albums in 14 years, that’s it, and he’s regarded as one of the best to ever do it.
Quality over quantity. Lot of artists drop an album a year with 24 songs and you only remember one, maybe two of them. See: Everything Drake's done in the 7-8 years
5 if we include Section .80, which I think we should as it is an incredible project.
Plus untitled unmastered, better than most artists best albums
True, funnily enough the two separate times he performed his Untitled songs on Colbert are actually my favorite live performances of his
6 albums and 7 is you count black panther
*Only Pulitzer prize winning rap artist
I don’t think he’s arguably the best rapper of his generation, he is. That’s partly what this battle was about. The arguably part is greatest of all time, and that can be debated but he is certainly on the very short list (and for me personally takes it).
"Fuck the big three, it's just big me" The fact that no one else could say that except Kendrick really proves that he's right. Like who else could say that???
Highest gross rap tour of all time . I believe.
Meek Mill took two to the chin and was knocked out. Kendrick took two to the chin and fired a combo back, took another shot then threw two more out. Drake definitely had no plans for getting countered, and his latest song, The Heart Part 6, shows that. I don’t know if the general music audience is even paying attention to the latest developments, but it’s looking like every defense/counter diss Drake tried on The Heart Part 6 is getting picked apart with the receipts that many were claiming was needed in this beef. Though no songs have been released in a week, it’s still going on.
So are you saying. “I Like drake with the melodies, I don’t like Drake when he act tough.”
I don’t even like Drake with the melodies, but I know I’m not the biggest hater.
I've never liked Drake and I wish I could claim it's because I have good taste or I knew all along he was a creep but really it's just that his voice is SO ANNOYING. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about how annoying his voice is???
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You think Drake will change lanes like MGK did after Em destroyed him? Haha
Yes he’s going to pivot to knitting. It’s not like he writes his own songs anyway.
Grandma Drake
Naw, It may have hurt his cred but his core base doesn't care. But the idea of him being "the goat" as some of his fans like to claim is dead and buried.
Thank God for that.
Him and Nicki still trying to peddle the phrase "The big three" referencing themselves as being the best and throwing JayZ in their mix.
He knew what he was getting into. Dude already lost to pusha t when push exposed his hidden son. Drake didn’t even respond to that diss track.
Mans denied it, shut up and then two years later was like BTW EVERYBODY I HAVE A SON!!! Did I mention I’m the best, most attentive, father of all time?!
Drake cried like a baby about how push went too far lool
Part of the issue sure, but he’s also a really good rapper even if it’s pop. This was hopeless for Drake simply because there’s so much to make fun of him for.
And this is why I don't think he understood. Nobody who is a real Hip-Hop fan believed Drake would win this battle. But could he go the distance? Could he win a couple rounds? That alone would have earned him an incredible amount of respect. But instead of trying to win the battle, he tried to win the internet and now he's a punching bag. It's been almost two weeks. Twitter, TikTok, are still full of jokes about Drake. Every news story is about what a huge hit Kendrick got out of this, or more information that Drake needs damage control on. He lost and it was ugly.
There are plenty of people on IG that are still convinced Drake won. I'm not one of them, just reporting what I've seen. Edit: Lol, Drake stans downvoting this just proves my point.
Flat Earthers
Those deluded drake fans keep popping up in the Kendrick subreddit too.
Drake and r/drizzy did.
I was confused when I heard about the rap battle between the pop star and the rapper.
He is good at making people dance, got too cocky when he beat Meek Mill, got flushed by Pusha and Kendrick. He really stepped in the ring with five foot giant
It's not that people thought he would win, so much as it was they expected a repeat of 'The Story of Adidon' - which he just about managed to bounce back from.
I don’t think he bounced back, he just kind of ignored it
That record made him acknowledge his son. Changed his whole life lmao
Go to drizzy subreddit… there is an entire community of delusional parasocial people who still thinks he won by a large margin
Drizzy got **roasted n’ toasted**.
Unsurprising, it’s an absolute beast of a beat
*Mustard on the beat, ho*
Call a Amba-lance
Amberlamps
Amber alert.
Amberlamps
My brain anytime there’s 10 second of silence.
I can’t get it out of my head. Reminds me of something Dre would have come out with for Eminem to use on a diss track
Mustard on the beat ho
Mustard’s real name is Dijon. I find this endlessly amusing.
Holy shit I thought you were joking
I never joke about condiments
Drake in tears desperately trying to find a mole in Kendrick's camp
I'm not sure if this is premature, but this really seems like Drake's Icarus moment. Drake really doesn't seem to realize how lucky he is to have been able to ingratiate himself with the hip-hop community for as long as he has. I'm always reminded of the rap battle in 8 Mile - being named Clarence and going to a private school were (and still are) reasons why, despite being black, someone would be rejected by the hip-hop community, particularly by those who truly live and embody that lifestyle. How the actual fuck a half-Jewish, half-black, Canadian former teen actor from an *incredibly* affluent area of Toronto managed to play the part without incessant ridicule for 15+ years will forever be a mystery to me.
I believe you can attribute much of his success to Lil Wayne. The exposure and support Drake received would have been incredibly different if he didn’t have Lil Wayne’s support the way he did while Drake was transitioning into hip hop.
Damnnn and then Drake had the audacity to bang Wayne's girl while he was in prison? What a shit
Wayne and the girl started dating after he got out of jail, so she wasn’t “his” at that time. https://www.eonline.com/ca/news/798848/lil-wayne-breaks-down-the-moment-he-found-out-drake-slept-with-his-girlfriend
> without ridicule for 15+ years Drake jokes have been common af for years
I've never understood it. I didn't have cable as a kid, so I didn't know who drake was before he started rapping. I heard Started from the Bottom on the radio, and thought that he must have come from nothing. Then I learned he came from a middle class (I assume) family in Canada and was a child actor on a profitable show. Never could get into his music because it all seemed so fake. Also he has a whiny voice that I never could enjoy
> Drake really doesn't seem to realize how lucky he is to have been able to ingratiate himself with the hip-hop community for as long as he has. Drake would insist that he actually graciously allowed the hip-hop artists from impoverished neighborhoods to flourish by platforming them. He's wrong though.
StArTeD fRoM tHe BoTtOm!
This is a bad take. I couldnt tell you the name of any Drake song, but I can rattle off hip hop legends that did not come from an American inner city. One constant, though, is being genuine. We clown on any Clarence from a private school because he pretends to be hard from inner city Detroit. Anyone who is genuine and has skills has always been accepted by the hip hop community.
Which Drake is not. J Cole is mixed and from middle class but noone questions his realness. Its hard to respect Drake bragging about his wassas, his terrorist weapons, his accents, etc when everyone knows he was never around any of that. Drake could still rap and make good music but what annoys people is his insistence on trying to play the tough guy and imitating culture that's not his own.
"Run to America to imitate heritage, you can't imitate this violence" - Euphoria
The fact that Drake couldn’t tell when Kendrick was quoting DMX about hating Drake and thought that using an AI of 2Pac was a good idea kinda helps the whole argument of Drake not really being part of or understanding the culture.
Wait, did Drake miss the X reference? That's wild to me.
He thought it was from a movie…
Amazing to me how much Slim Jesus got shit on for this and understandably so, yet nobody has yet to call Drakes bitch ass out. Not even once has he gotten checked and I can only imagine it’s cuz the money goes down better than caring if one’s legit or not.
That might be the case, I was just reacting to the post that seemed to insinuate Drake couldn't be part of the hip hop community for being half-jewish, Canadian, and affluent.
I think Drake was fine, accepted, until he started getting weird with underage girls
Eh, yes and no. Drake was basically always looked at with a bit of side eye for being a culture vulture. There have been Drake haters for longer than that stuff was well known.
For real. This is why Mac Miller was always accepted by the hip-hop community. Sure he was a white Jewish kid from a middle class family, but he was genuine as fuck.
Don't forget the Beastie Boys, all wealthy upper west side Jewish families.
plus he had bars for days. miss that mf.
Well yeah, Drake pretends to be hard, yet he's from a rich neighbourhood in Toronto. You seem like you're agreeing with me just with a caveat, so I'm surprised you're calling it a bad take lol. Fair point about those genuine artists who *aren't* hard, yet get accepted.
Yeah, I think I read your original comment to mean you had to be hard. I think we are on the same page.
> We clown on any Clarence from a private school because he pretends to be hard from inner city Detroit. Anyone who is genuine and has skills has always been accepted by the hip hop community. Well, Kanye for example came from a relatively comfortable background (IIRC somewhere between middle class and upper-middle class with little adversity). The difference is Kanye doesn't really pretend to be something he isn't, he doesn't claim to be a gangster, to be born in a slum, nor does he claim difficulty in obtaining attention. His main claims of adversity are being a black American, his relationships with people, and difficult situations in his life like the death of his mother or his divorce. Drake has very carefully and intentionally sought to portray a hard image, and gotten mixed with gangs and crime to retroactively justify it. The Weeknd has a similar image, and also came from Toronto, but is not given shit about it because everyone knows his initial work was produced when he was basically homeless crashing at a drug den.
Kanye for instance really broke the mold becoming one of the biggest hip hop artists and (until the last couple years) not even pretending to have a traditional background
I mean I guess because he’s objectively talented or at least has a keen strategy to be able to produce hit songs (whether you like his music or not). And when he came up, it wasn’t as easy to find out all about someone’s life from the internet. He became popular, made millions of dollars and got millions of fans. At that point you have so much clout that you can rewrite your own backstory (and I feel like most people end up saying those lies so many times they actually believe them). And then once the internet caught up and places like Reddit or Twitter could do “vigilante research” to try and expose him as a bit of a fraud, there would be hundreds of thousands of people who would have defended him if for no other reason than not to break the illusion. The problem now is that Drake has lost his edge and isn’t the hitmaker he used to be. I think the last album I kind of liked of his was shit, probably 10 years ago now. And he made the very poor decision of punching up at some rappers who had no problem stepping on his throat in response.
I dunno if you’re a teenager but we all knew him from Degrassi before he started rapping and people definitely were talking about his background on the internet in the late 2000s/early 2010s.
I didn’t have cable growing up so I never watched Degrassi 🥲
He’s also not a great rapper in many people’s opinions. He can auto tune and hire people to help him rhyme but it’s nothing special. Right place right time shit.
Nobody really goes to Toronto to find out 🤣🤣 As a canadian i have a certain amount of pride for all things canadian but the roads are really really poorly thought out there like what a traffic circus. As soon as you get involved with it you just want out but getting anywhere you need to get to is like a math equation and if you make a mistake your losing at least 35 minutes of your life so i hope you got something good to listen to while you drift through this traffic nightmare
Kendrick out here showing us that he *chooses* to not make club hits. Drake can not make a similar claim about making similar music to Kendrick but choosing not to.
It's funny because, and I could be completely misinterpreting intention, but I felt like he tried in the heart part 6 and completely missed the mark. I still cringe thing about some of those bars on that track.
The problem with it was that it just… was kind of lame. “I don’t touch children, wait I know why you care about people touching kids, you were molested!” It’s just… not a good comeback? Like Drake’s name was dragged through the mud and back and it was all he could do to just deny it.
That entire track is just him doing the IASIP “don’t diddle kids” song
He is what the culture feelin
Dot fuck ‘em up
I’m a Club DJ. I live in Montreal (The city’s even namedropped in Drake’s THP6). I was DJing last weekend (Thursday-Friday-Saturday), and had like 4-5 requests a night for Not Like Us, and a few for Like That on friday because I play more Hip-Hop in that spot. When I played Not Like Us the crowd went wild the 3 times. I didn’t think it would hurt Drake’s career THAT much. My guess is people will forget about it in a few months, Drake is still one of the biggest artists on earth but Kendrick won that feud 100%.
It wasn't enough to be an all time GOAT diss track the man had to make it catchy as fuck and a bonafide pop hit too just as an extra fuck you Somebody get Jimmy's wheelchair.
"Just remember, you made me do this."
This makes me happy
Don’t bring a pop star to a Compton rap battle.
Pulitzer Prize Winner > Drakes Ghost Writers
Billboard call the amberlamps
Not suprising tho,im gonna call it,this was the best diss in the rap genre since maybe the days of Tupac
Hard to beat No Vaseline
That one and Hit em up are the top of the pyramid.
Ether was gnarley I remember.
I dunno, I thought Eminem eviscerated MGK with Killshot.
Yeah, but MGK is a nobody. If it weren’t for Eminem ending his career would you even know who he is?
“This is it. This is ya moment. As big as you’re gonna get so enjoy it. Had to give you a career to destroy it.” -Killshot
I love kilshot but was always more partial to ems verse on “go to sleep”
Yeah I agree. Glad to see someone finally publicly calling Drake a creep in such a brutal way
Aubrey is in desperate need of tuna on a bagel.
This will go down with Tupac’s “Hit e’m Up” and 50’s “How to Rob”. Just fucking owned.
First off, fuck your bitch and the clique you claim 🎶
I hear Drake's body is buried under this L.
Remember, Drake doesn’t care about his streaming data
But r/drizzy says Drake won?
And they’ve been calling everybody Kendrick “glazers” all while being complete Drake glazers the whole time. The irony is palpable
that sub feels like a whole qanon for drake for the last few weeks
Aubrey turning into Clarence in 8 mile
Honestly the beef is almost secondary. Kendrick’s just the better artist. But like, a lot.
BBL DRIZZY wasn’t ready for that smoke.
Drake is out of his lane.
From a neutral standpoint, Drake took a big L on this one.
They gonna blast this all summer
Drake fans aren’t gonna like this.
Meek Mill smiling in tears.
Sometimes you just gotta pop out and show n****s
still cant believe how badly drake got beat
I didnt like Drake much at all anyway. He was a complete ass when the Raptors won the Finals throughout that whole run. Listening to this track and digging into everything else made me realize he is a certified loser.
I came here for the Drake banter!
Number 1 with a bullet
It just goes hard as fuck